Re: [Framework-Team] Today's Call (Oct 12, 2010)

2010-10-12 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 10/12/10 8:58 AM, Eric Steele wrote: We have a call scheduled for today. Since we've had all of one new review in the past two weeks, is it still worthwhile for us to get together to talk? Do we have any updates to the PLIPs we've already cast votes for to discuss? I think we should

[Framework-Team] Upcoming final PLIP deadline

2010-08-26 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Hello everyone, We are fast approaching the final PLIP deadline for Plone 4.1, this is your last chance to get a proposal in before the process starts again for Plone 4.2. The framework team has already considered many PLIPs, including all those submitted by the earlier deadline for

Re: [Framework-Team] Our next meeting – PLI P-a-thon part 1

2010-08-16 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-08-12, at 2042, Eric Steele wrote: We've got 30 PLIPs in for 4.1 already (http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/24), so it's time to get together and start talking. Can I assume that next Tuesday at 14:00 UTC will work, or should I set up another Doodle thing? That's going to be

Re: [Framework-Team] Our next meeting – PLIP- a-thon part 1

2010-08-16 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-08-16, at 1345, Laurence Rowe wrote: Note the later email: Sorry, I meant the later one, just quoted the wrong thing. Personally I'd like it 2 hours earlier, but 8pm CEST (1800 zulu) is ok. Matthew ___ Framework-Team mailing list

[Framework-Team] Call for PLIPs for Plone 4.1

2010-07-16 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Hello everyone, As I'm sure many of you know, the Plone 4.x framework team has been set up and we had our first meeting on Tuesday. There we decided to open the call for PLIPs this week, with a deadline of the 30th August 2010. However, if you are considering submitting an PLIP that is

Re: [Framework-Team] Sign Up for 4.x Framework Team Nomination Discussion List

2010-06-14 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-06-15, at 0021, Steve McMahon wrote: I have created a new mailing list, framewor...@lists.plone.org for discussion of the nominations for the Plone 4.x Framework Team. I am the initial owner and will facilitate discussion but not vote. What's the process here? I assume it's a free

Re: [Framework-Team] Sign Up for 4.x Framework Team Nomination Discussion List

2010-06-14 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-06-15, at 0039, David Glick wrote: It is open to folks who 1) have not been nominated That'll teach me not to respond to emails after midnight... Matt ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] Beta 1 is (essentially) out! FWT, your job is done.

2010-03-11 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-03-09, at 0250, Eric Steele wrote: So... now that those bums are out the door, how do we go about appointing a 4.x team for me to abuse? Well, on a more general note, I think we need a bit better separation between the 4.x and 5.x teams to avoid conflicts between the needs of

Re: [Framework-Team] FWT, Let's meet up

2009-10-28 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2009-10-28, at 1858, Martijn Pieters wrote: Let's meet at the lobby right now and head out? Where to? I'm at my hotel (the centrum) at the mo. Matt ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] Status of PLIP 9315 — Ne w theme for Plone 4

2009-08-17 Thread Matthew Wilkes
• A new design from Iain (screenshot) that I have implemented as a static HTML version on top of the Plone markup (with the main_template changes. Note that the typography and pull-down menu will be different — closer to what you see on plone.org right now. Is that the new design for

[Framework-Team] Meeting tomorrow

2009-06-22 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Hello all, To confirm, are we meeting at 1800 UTC on #plone-framework tomorrow? Matt ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP deadline overly aggressive?

2009-06-20 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 20 Jun 2009, at 19:38, Tres Seaver wrote: Isn't 4.0 deliberately a short-hop release, with minimal new feautres, mostly intended to move the platform forward (to modern versions of Zope, Python, CMF)? Keeping the window short emphasizes that fact, at least to my outsider's eyes. Hmm,

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP deadline overly aggressive?

2009-06-20 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 20 Jun 2009, at 20:54, Laurence Rowe wrote: So if your PLIP isn't ready now, don't worry. There'll be another chance to get it in with 4.1 With the usual caveat that 4.x releases are as ambitious as 3.x releases. The reason we need a 4.0 release is so we can put the things Laurence

[Framework-Team] PLIPs in Trac

2009-06-18 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Hi all, I'd like to open a public discussion on where tracs should be. As some of you may know, I'm very much against the PLIPs-in-trac system that has been implemented following out-of-band discussions last year. I think we need to make a proper decision, I'm not sure how that will

[Framework-Team] Garbage PLIP for 4.0

2009-06-10 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Hi all, We've had a PLIP that was clearly a feature request, https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9257 I've moved it to a feature request against installers, I hope nobody minds, but it's clearly not a PLIP. Any objections to continue gardening this list? Matt

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies

2009-05-30 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 30 May 2009, at 22:23, David Glick wrote: Raphael raised a question about the consequences of backwards- incompatible changes for add-on developers. Switching to a newer Zope and CMF will indeed probably have some consequences. But this is a major version bump of Plone, so I think

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies

2009-05-27 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 26 May 2009, at 10:59, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I think someone has to try and see what kind of changes are acutally required to make a current Plone 3.3rc3 run on Zope 2.12 or even better a real client side with a collection of add-ons. I doubt it's very hard, a concerted effort by me

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 5 May 2009, at 12:44, Hanno Schlichting wrote: The general idea that seems to have met some consensus is to go for a Plone 3.5 release up next. We'd skip any 3.4 release and go for a 3.5 that is similar in spirit to the Plone 2.5 release. It tries to both refresh some of our technical

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 5 May 2009, at 13:20, Martin Aspeli wrote: snip Yes, I agree with all of these, and do think they're needed. So, 3.5 is a compromise. The skipping of 3.4 actually helps back the story up. We could try something else, like Plone 2009, but I'm pretty sure we'd regret that in 2010 for

Re: [Framework-Team] Scheduling 4.0 FWT Meetings (was: Quick team meeting)

2009-03-13 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On Mar 13, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote: Mr. Wilkes, can you post the link to that scheduling software that you mentioned on the call? We can setup a mock week and basically vote on which days/times work best. Sorry, sent from the wrong address and it didn't get

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Fwd: Doodle: Link for poll Framework Team Meeting

2009-03-13 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 13 Mar 2009, at 19:30, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Matthew Wilkes wrote: I've tried to include all the relevant possible times in this, let me know if there's another I should add. I'll be at PyCon in that week and have no idea what my time schedule is going to be. I'll try to join

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP Community Imapacts

2009-03-13 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 14 Mar 2009, at 00:13, Jon Stahl wrote: East coast is significantly easier for the Europeans, both in travel time and intensity of jetlag. But all is open to discussion. They rallied to CA for the PSPS. :-) To be honest, the travel time isn't a massive factor, it only adds a few

Re: [Framework-Team] NuPlone and Plone 3.2

2009-01-03 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 3 Jan 2009, at 07:55, Graham Perrin wrote: In partial answer, http://dev.plone.org/plone/wiki/WheredItGoOnPloneTrunk http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/8805 http://dev.plone.org/plone/query?component=NuPlone+Themeorder=iddesc=1 http://dev.plone.org/plone/changeset/23493 Regards Graham

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: NuPlone and Plone 3.2

2009-01-03 Thread Matthew Wilkes
(ccing wiggy in as a ping as he requested for such issues in #8839) On 4 Jan 2009, at 03:06, Martin Aspeli wrote: This is actually really bad, and I think it should block the 3.2 full release (i.e. with installers). +1 I think we need to: 1) Get a release of Products.NuPlone that works

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???

2008-12-25 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:39, Hanno Schlichting wrote: we just decided to move all PLIP's to Trac for Plone 4 and no longer use plone.org/products/plone for it. Incidentally, I missed this, where was it discussed? Are we going to have a new workflow for PLIPs? Matt

Re: [Framework-Team] Trac report {24} for Improvement Proposals (PLIPs) for milestone 4 and beyond

2008-12-23 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 23 Dec 2008, at 12:50, Graham Perrin wrote: Excellent to see Trac being used in this way. Thanks. Ah, hadn't noticed this thread yet, sorry. If we're going to use Trac for PLIPs I'd say we need the same or similar workflow to what we currently have and have some policy on priorities,

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for milestone 4 and beyond in Trac: occasional conversion from type 'Feature Request'?

2008-12-23 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 23 Dec 2008, at 12:47, Graham Perrin wrote: I assume that in exceptional circumstances (imagine a very well formed Feature Request) a Feature Request (type) in Trac may be converted to a PLIP (type). PLIPs have their own numbering and are currently stored exclusively on plone.org.

Fwd: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Matthew Wilkes
on those factors. I think I'll answer this, as in my initial mail nominating myself you asked about my UI experience: On 5 Nov 2008, at 12:54, Matthew Wilkes wrote: - loves to make sure a user interface is as simple as possible Less so, I'm a terminal junkie. I know what I hate

Re: [Framework-Team] Nomination

2008-11-05 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 5 Nov 2008, at 12:29, Wichert Akkerman wrote: - excels at reading and understanding other people's code Yes, not only do I do regular code reviews at work I have worked as a coursework marker for a masters level university java course. Part of my job is that when I see an interesting

[Framework-Team] Nomination

2008-11-04 Thread Matthew Wilkes
Well, I'll get the ball rolling on this. I'd be interested in serving on the 4.x team. Although I've not made masses of commits to Plone I do know the internals very well, I think I must have pdbed or read most of it over the years and I'm comfortable with development versions. I think