Oh yes, the fairly recent documentary (five years or so?) Beetle Queen
Conquers Tokyo.
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An early documentary by Peter Friedman, I Talk to Animals. It is wonderful,
available from Strange Attractions.
Tom Whiteside Durham Cinematheque
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And his follow up Neil Diamond Parking Lot (same venue, I think it was 20
years later)
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(or whatever it
might be) you are ahead of the game.
And keep in mind that you need power at each camera position.
Tom Whiteside
Durham Cinematheque
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Shelly Silver
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has been moved, same difference.
I am tempted to say that appropriation isn't what it used to be.
Tom Whiteside
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You can also get regular 8mm (with prepaidprocessing) from Dwayne's in Parsons,
Kansas.
For an obsolete format there are plenty of choices.
- Tom Durham Cinematheque
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You can buy 8mm stock and have it processed at Dwayne’s Photo in Parsons,
Kansas.
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Phaeton Graph
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One might add that this Roundhouse is in London - correct?
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Subject: [Frameworks] The Pace of Time / Roundhouse / 4
houses of Arnold or Oxford
University Press you might want to make them aware of this.
- Tom WhitesideDurham Cinematheque
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The work of Jonas Mekas.
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Francisco Torres
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The films of Nicolas Roeg may be considered
I don't think you can safely add a layer of finish - ink and markers probably
won't change much, but craft paint is going to come off (to some degree) so if
you want to project this (much) you need to make a print.
As I'm sure you are aware, the motion of the film through the projector is
, they are called
RIPSRIPS.
- Tom Whiteside
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Gene Youngblood
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Subject: [Frameworks] RIP Taylor Mead
The flower thief left us yesterday
I agree with Jonathan, Back and Forth is anything but static, it's a ping pong
game that gets seriously out of hand. There are dizzying qualities to Central
Region, too. Isn't it the dynamic contrast between the heights of busyness
(rhymes with dizziness) and the relative repose of the calmer
Agreed, this is dumbo to the max. I didn't read the whole thing, it was awful.
However, the entire episode has been worthwhile as it leads up to Peter's
exquisite critique - nice language, good message, delivered with Confirmation
Notification to RightHereSville! Thnx.
Tom Durham
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- Tom Whiteside
Durham Cinematheque
Durham, NC USA
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Dear
Check with Skip Elsheimer of AV Geeks.
- Tom
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Hello
However, Walker Evans did work that way on the subway series, correct? He could
point his (still) camera in that directions and actually be taking a photo in
another direction. As I understand it, this was deliberate, in order to catch
people unawares.
Tom
From:
Also Burckhardt's Under the Brooklyn Bridge and What Mozart Saw on Mulberry
Street
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This is interesting - thanks for asking a fresh question. As a film person
who started out in music decades ago, I have always envied and admired the
breadth and depth of musicology. Film studies is such a young field - we are
centuries behind.
Filmmaker Hollis Frampton made a film titled
If your loops are short enough you don't really need anything special. Put a
supply reel and a take up reel on the projector, but of course the film does
not attach to them, it just passes through them.
If you have slot loaders you can make (and keep) the loops, just splice the
film into a
Along this line - other than the kinetoscope loops are their kin from the very
earliest days (when they were loops because that's what the technology
allowed), do most people agree that the washerwoman climbing the stairs in
Ballet Mecanique was the first loop? Always been curious about that.
Harrod Blank's films about car art. Su Friedrich's Rules of the Road. Some of
the Jam Handy industrial films made for Chevrolet in the 1950's have been
called Corporate Surrealism, the ones I know that best fit this description
are Hall of Wonders and You're Ahead, Mr. X. Also the Jam Handy
The LH in question is Big Business. Deconstruction indeed.
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The two reeler where LH destroy Jim Finlayson's automobile (because he won't
buy a Christmas tree) is Big Business.
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and bits of film, and am wondering if anyone else has
anything similar.
Please contact me off-list if you have any questions or leads,
thanks.
- Tom Whiteside Durham Cinematheque
Durham, NC
I believe that Baltimore had one of the last municipal censorship boards in the
US; please note that Baltimore also nurtured John Waters. Thanks, Baltimore!
Tom Whiteside Durham Cinematheque
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It starts before the lab! Every roll of film you ever bought had a disclaimer
on it - if there was something wrong with the film, even if it was the
manufacturer's fault, the manufacturer's liability was limited to replacement
of that film, only. You could not (successfully) sue them for the
Old X-Ray viewing boxes are excellent light boxes, maybe you can find one in
medical surplus as I have in the past. Good luck.
Tom Durham Cinematheque
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[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Dinorah de Jesús
I was rather amazed last November when a guy came to the same film program two
nights in a row, the second night he said he wasn't going to watch the program
again, he just wanted to make an audio recording of the 16mm projectors.
Perhaps you could borrow his audio recording for your screening
Whatever the cost, ADD SHIPPING. Of course now they are free, you pick up.
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Lotte Reiniger, really? I guess I haven't seen everything, but what I have
seen is shadow puppets, not collage.
TomDurham Cinematheque
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Jaimie Baron
jaimierba...@gmail.commailto:jaimierba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Frameworks,
I'm putting together a
Freya -
This is brilliant, thank you for sharing. I didn't realize how many
things I've been getting wrong for so many years! It's clear to me now, step by
step, wow.
Anthology Film Archives, here I come! And I'm NOT going for the cliché;
I'm going to trust my instinct and this
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Trust your instinct and don't go for the cliche.
Freya -
This is brilliant, thank you for sharing. I didn't realize how many
I have had excellent results coming out of projectors by using the 1/4 jack to
a DI (stands for Direct Input, I believe) which gives you an XLR output to a
sound system, microphone level. Many DI's have a switch to select Instrument
or Speaker levels, coming out of a projector you want to
The Bell Howell 173 is a 16mm analytic projector and it can be hand-cranked
or run by the variable speed motor. A beautiful machine and a real workhorse.
There are similar models by other makers, and because analytics are not sound
projectors they can be rather inexpensive (gee, who would want
The normal lens for 16mm film is the 50mm lens, which is what you've got,
which of course may or may not be the right focal length for a given situation,
it's simply the most common lens. I'm not sure what lenses fit an Elf, but for
other makes 38mm lenses are fairly common and you can find
One issue in fundraising is fiscal sponsorship. Some funding organizations
(foundations) will not give money to you as an individual but will make a
contribution to the project though a non-profit, tax deductible (501c3)
institution, your fiscal sponsor. Women Make Movies is one, the one I've
Over the years I have heard many people say they cannot recommend autoloaders,
yes I know I know, but I think this is a matter of personal preference. I've
been using Bell Howell autoloaders for many years and generally do not have
any trouble with them. Many of them have silent and sound
Ben, you just posted, it's as easy as that.
Welcome to the forum, just speak up. Cheers.
- Tom
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is a one person organization and it has been housed in my
basement until now. Under this moniker I've done about 80 shows since 1991 in a
variety of locations in Bull City. No website, only bricks and mortar and
acetate cellulose for now.
- Tom Whiteside Durham, North Carolina
I started this yesterday but shelved it; now that others have posted I am a bit
more confident and will send ---
This is such an interesting statement. I know what you mean, but still... There
are avant-garde sympathetic folks at the Academy... Could we possibly hope
for supportive or
A silent musical comedy? Is there an optical soundtrack? Nitrate was common up
until the early 50's, way past the silent era.
If I were you I'd get rid of it. A funky looking roll of nitrate is no joke.
But it sounds like it might be worthwhile to photograph those stalagmites on
the reel. Just
Wow this is harsh and somewhat ridiculous. This reply, below, is the cynical
one. David has it absolutely right, his assessment rings true and it is based
in real world experience, not some pouting ideology. And he is a teacher, so I
do hope he is one who cares what students think today. Jeez
Did anyone mention the relatively recently released Black Power Mixtape
1967-1975?
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[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of ev petrol
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Flat white ceiling paint works well, it is usually a bit brighter than wall
paint. You do not want glossy. Do several coats. There is some kind of
screen paint but I understand it is expensive.
- Tom
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Film cleaner, you can find it at camera stores.
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[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Matt Soar
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:58 AM
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Subject: [Frameworks] Recipe
I don't know about non-toxic. I have used both FilmRenew and VitaFilm with good
results, wearing rubber gloves and using the liquid on clean cotton cloth
between rewinds. I don't think they are super toxic, but you need decent
ventilation and you do want to avoid contact with skin. Depending on
When it comes to art, don't let anything hold you back - have it imported!
but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california.
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Alan Berliner made a doc about his insomnia, Wide Awake I believe it is. I
haven't seen it, but he's one of the few filmmakers who has made really good
documentaries AND really good experimental films. Rudy Burckhardt had a nice
little poetry film In Bed. Nightcats and the Sexual Meditations by
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