Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread John Indra
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:40:04AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: But if somebody wants to try to code this optimization, I'll be more than happy to review the result. I just don't expect it to do much in real-life as opposed to silly benchmark situations. Sorry to start this thread at the

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 22:43] wrote: But if somebody wants to try to code this optimization, I'll be more than happy to review the result. I just don't expect it to do much in real-life as opposed to silly benchmark situations. Have you thought about issuing a

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Martin Blapp
Per thread exception stacks? THat's where I'd look... Hmm, good point. The programms that crashed were all threaded ... Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein writes: * Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020313 22:43] wrote: But if somebody wants to try to code this optimization, I'll be more than happy to review the result. I just don't expect it to do much in real-life as opposed to silly

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020314 01:53] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein writes: Have you thought about issuing a madvise(MADV_WILLNEED) after the brk/mmap call in malloc, at least doing it when it's called via realloc, this might get rid of the superfolous

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein writes: It would be much more valuable to add a mremap(void *from, void *to, size_t length); since that can _solve_ the problem in _all_ cases, rather than add more or less byzantine workarounds for silly benchmarks. You're right that

Re: panics with CardBus

2002-03-14 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: John Baldwin also cornered me about these panics. I'll be looking at them tonight. I think he gave me a good way to recreate them. The patches never fixed one of the panics I see, with a GlobalVillage Ethernet/Modem card. The kernel still traps

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Alexander Kabaev
This is a case of exception context register getting clobbered in shared library function call. GCC does not reload it when needed and this ultimately leads to semi-random word in program memory decremented by the __cp_pop_exception function. The bug is only triggered under very specific

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Alexander Kabaev
This is a case of exception context register getting clobbered in shared library function call. GCC does not reload it when needed and this ultimately leads to semi-random word in program memory decremented by the __cp_pop_exception function. The bug is only triggered under very specific

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi, This is a case of exception context register getting clobbered in shared library function call. GCC does not reload it when needed and this ultimately leads to semi-random word in program memory decremented by the __cp_pop_exception function. The bug is only triggered under very

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : M. Warner Losh wrote: : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Ed Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Exception-handling is broken with -O in -stable, and has been for years. : : FreeBSD is one of the few

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Alexander Kabaev
Do you have a patch for this ? I do not fully understand the parts of GCC involved, so I need some time to verify my initial diagnosis and to create a patch. In other words - not yet :) -- Alexander Kabaev To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in

Linker or startup brokenness?

2002-03-14 Thread Mark Murray
Hi When building the gcl port (ports/lang/gcl), the build dies when ``saved_gcl'' is run. The symptiom during the buld is a sig11 and a core dump. This is _after_ the patches that Peter worked out (and David O'B later committed). Here is a backtrace: Core was generated by `saved_gcl'. Program

RE: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Jan Stocker
So now i am a little bit confused... State of the art: 1) Bug is in -stable and -current -- This means possible patches only in -current arent responsible for this behaviour 2) Bug is in os delivered gcc but not in port gcc. a) port has more or less patches / os gcc has been

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
Do you have a small, reproducible test case? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread ozan s. yigit
in a related tangential note, i recently found (out of sheer irritation) in less than an hour that several (including the latest) versions of GCC -O and -O2 failed the paranoia test in different ways, to wit: gcc -o paranoia paranoia.c [paranoia output elided] The number of DEFECTs

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:36:05PM +0100, Jan Stocker wrote: 2) Bug is in os delivered gcc but not in port gcc. a) port has more or less patches / os gcc has been modified -- Didn't someone told they are the same? Port has less patches. If you look at

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread David Greenman
And everybody with VM clue I've asked says it would be trivial to flip two page-table entries, so for all I care it can be It's going to take a fair bit more than just swapping some page table entries, but it's certainly doable. -DG David Greenman Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project -

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Alexander Kabaev
2) Bug is in os delivered gcc but not in port gcc. a) port has more or less patches / os gcc has been modified -- Didn't someone told they are the same? GCC from ports uses DWARF2 exception unwinding while GCC in src tree uses sjlj exceptions. The exception handling code generated by

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 12:59:31PM -0500, ozan s. yigit wrote: in a related tangential note, i recently found (out of sheer irritation) in less than an hour that several (including the latest) versions of GCC -O and -O2 failed the paranoia test in different ways, to wit: gcc -o paranoia

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 01:20:51PM -0500, Alexander Kabaev wrote: b) other options were set at compile time -- Why dont change to the same in the port? Leads it to a broken world? If the only difference is the lost of binary compatibility, i would

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread ozan s. yigit
Add the -ffloat-store flag to your compilation flags (or add -msoft-float). that really means for this compiler on certain platforms, you can have slow and correct or fast and incorrect, but NOT fast and correct. oz --- freedom has a mental cost. -- peter roosen-runge To Unsubscribe: send

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Raymond Wiker
ozan s. yigit writes: Add the -ffloat-store flag to your compilation flags (or add -msoft-float). that really means for this compiler on certain platforms, you can have slow and correct or fast and incorrect, but NOT fast and correct. Actually, if -ffloat-store is the

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:24:20PM +0100, Martin Blapp wrote: We are using a set of patches that were part of gcc 2.95.3_test3. Do you have a sample program in which exceptions are still broken on FreeBSD 4.5? cd /usr/ports/devel/stlport make install cd work/STL*/test/eh add -O to

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Steve Kargl
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 07:50:38PM +0100, Raymond Wiker wrote: ozan s. yigit writes: Add the -ffloat-store flag to your compilation flags (or add -msoft-float). that really means for this compiler on certain platforms, you can have slow and correct or fast and incorrect, but

float [was Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT]

2002-03-14 Thread ozan s. yigit
If you really want to investigate FreeBSD FP/math capabilities search for UCBTEST or visit www.cs.berkeley.edu/~jhauser/arithmetic/TestFloat.html cool! thanks for the pointer. oz --- gag reflex is an essential part of computing. -- anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: GEOM code ready for testing

2002-03-14 Thread Doug White
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Rasmus Skaarup wrote: Hmm, but I'm not sure all kinds of storage devices have serialnumbers that could be fetched (tape devices for instance?) and can we rely on the hardware manufacturers to provide unique serialnumbers? Although it's an isolated case, you do have

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Terry Lambert
Jan Stocker wrote: So now i am a little bit confused... State of the art: 1) Bug is in -stable and -current -- This means possible patches only in -current arent responsible for this behaviour Unless they were MFC'ed to -STABLE. THis is why you generally should compare -RELEASE

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Have you thought about issuing a madvise(MADV_WILLNEED) after the :brk/mmap call in malloc, at least doing it when it's called via :realloc, this might get rid of the superfolous (sp?) page faults :that David Greenman reported. : :It would be much more valuable to add a : mremap(void

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Matthew Dillon
:thing to do in FreeBSD ? :-) : :And everybody with VM clue I've asked says it would be trivial to :flip two page-table entries, so for all I care it can be : : mexchangemapping(void *from, void *to, size_t length) : :-- :Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 :[EMAIL

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote: :thing to do in FreeBSD ? :-) : :And everybody with VM clue I've asked says it would be trivial to :flip two page-table entries, so for all I care it can be : : mexchangemapping(void *from, void *to, size_t length) : :-- :Poul-Henning

Re: Won't boot after the commits to timecounter code

2002-03-14 Thread qhwt
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:40:07AM +0900, I wrote: Apparently you have KTR enabled (not the default in GENERIC). I think WITNESS+KTR already caused nasty recursion from the mtx_lock_spin, and we now get an endless loop when nanotime() is called with an invalid timecounter in the

Re: GEOM code ready for testing

2002-03-14 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Mar 14), Doug White said: On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Rasmus Skaarup wrote: Hmm, but I'm not sure all kinds of storage devices have serialnumbers that could be fetched (tape devices for instance?) and can we rely on the hardware manufacturers to provide unique

5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
Hi all, I'm just uploading a new 5.x package set. This run was better than the previous (5364 packages vs. 5123 for the last run, but far fewer than the 5973 packages which are building in 4.x), but there were still a number of significant failures: qt2 is still failing so kde doesn't build,

CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Peter Wemm
Murray Stokely wrote: On March 15, a RELENG_5_0_DP1 branch will be created in CVS for final release polishing. This will allow us to provide translated release notes, sync up sysinstall and the package set, bump version numbers, and tweak default diagnostic settings without further

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:31:44PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm just uploading a new 5.x package set. This run was better than the previous (5364 packages vs. 5123 for the last run, but far fewer than the 5973 packages which are building in 4.x), but there were still a number of

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:41:59PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:31:44PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm just uploading a new 5.x package set. This run was better than the previous (5364 packages vs. 5123 for the last run, but far fewer than the 5973 packages

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Hiten Pandya
--- David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will you be doing a run on a Tru5-CURRENT box? Some of these it is hard to say anything about due to the very special environment you built them under. I have a tru 5.0-CURRENT environment.. also.. is there any changes where my ENABLE_NLS dillema can

Re: malloc() and the stock Perl in -CURRENT (and -STABLE)

2002-03-14 Thread Matthew Dillon
: mcopymap(from, to, length, flags) : :I'm not sure you want to copy it.. :I mean you want the dta di disappear from the old address. :It's more a movepages() MAP_MOVE|MAP_SHARED -Matt : : flags: : : MAP_SHARED share the same

ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install

2002-03-14 Thread Jeff Kletsky
Having been unable to confirm a complete and proper installation of 5.0-CURRENT on my Sony PCG-SRX7/EP (similar to SRX77) laptop using the 4.5-RELEASE installer, I have made a bootable CD from 5.0-20020313-CURRENT, as well as floppies from 5.0-20020314-CURRENT. Both exhibit the same set

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:31:44PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: I'm just uploading a new 5.x package set. This run was better than the previous (5364 packages vs. 5123 for the last run, but far fewer than the 5973 packages which are building in 4.x), but there were still a number of

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Bruce A. Mah
[Trimming Cc list a little bit] If memory serves me right, Peter Wemm wrote: Actually, with my CVS hat on, I have a *huge* problem with this. In the future, if you see such huge problems come up, a little more advance notice might be nice. :-( We have a large number of temporary repo

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng work on HEAD without calling for a code freeze

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2002-03-14 Thread Moissanite
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Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Maxim M. Kazachek
I've installed qt23 from ports painlessly Sincerely, Maxim M. Kazachek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 08:36:29AM +0600, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: I've installed qt23 from ports painlessly Fine, I'm glad to hear it :) The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 depends on from

Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install (fwd)

2002-03-14 Thread Jeff Kletsky
a complete and proper installation of 5.0-CURRENT on my Sony PCG-SRX7/EP (similar to SRX77) laptop using the 4.5-RELEASE installer, I have made a bootable CD from 5.0-20020313-CURRENT, as well as floppies from 5.0-20020314-CURRENT. Both exhibit the same set of symptoms. [...] Results

RE: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install

2002-03-14 Thread
Try this ... Do you have your own /etc/make.conf file ? If then, I hope you did not use NO_MODULES=YES as I was. :( 1. Did you do 'make buildkernel installkernel' with KERNCONF=GENERIC first ? After reboot once, I re-compiled my own kernel using NEWCARD NEWCARD.hints. 2. Modify NEWCARD

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Bruce A. Mah wrote: I can't imagine why anyone would expect to cvsup this thing at some point in the distant future Rule number one of release engineering... user's will do all kinds of wacky stuff that you would never expect them to do, and complain bitterly when

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does). Right, when I tried to compile

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:56:53PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 depends on from scratch

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:56:53PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 depends on from scratch

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2002-03-14 Thread Jeff Heath
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Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Robert Watson
On 15 Mar 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's worth noting, BTW, that originally the release engineering team planned to use Perforce for this to avoid the branch issue entirely, minimize impact on the main tree, etc, but decided not to due to the high volume of complaints on the topic. If it

Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install (fwd)

2002-03-14 Thread Benno Rice
On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 14:49, Jeff Kletsky wrote: Tried the obvious -- manually loading acpi.ko -- still fails [snip] 7) Remove acpi.ko.flp, insert mfsroot.flp boot ...and watch the BTX halt Can you provide a copy of the BTX fault information? It's a bit hard to debug

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Terry Lambert
Alex Zepeda wrote: As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really care. For me disabling WITNESS does more than enough to make

Re: panics with CardBus

2002-03-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gavin Atkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : John Baldwin also cornered me about these panics. I'll be looking at : them tonight. I think he gave me a good way to recreate them. : : The patches never

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Alan Eldridge
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Alex Zepeda wrote: As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't really

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2002-03-14 Thread Jeff Heath
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Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Alex Zepeda wrote: As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know why objprelink isn't working correctly for Qt, but I don't

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2002-03-14 Thread Moissanite
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Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Terry Lambert
Alan Eldridge wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:25:39PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Alex Zepeda wrote: As far as Qt goes, rip out that objprelink crap. Without it Qt will build and work just fine. At least Qt 3.whatever works for me. I don't know why objprelink isn't working correctly

Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-14 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, ozan s. yigit wrote: Add the -ffloat-store flag to your compilation flags (or add -msoft-float). that really means for this compiler on certain platforms, you can have slow and correct or fast and incorrect, but NOT fast and correct. I think fast and correct is

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Peter Wemm
Alex Zepeda wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23 depends on from scratch (which the package cluster does).

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:16:14PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Alex Zepeda wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 06:40:37PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: The compile problems seem to be related to recent compiler toolchain changes, which you might not see unless you recompiled everything qt23

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Murray Stokely
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 03:32:00AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Bruce A. Mah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We

Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( 1 week Feature Slush )

2002-03-14 Thread Murray Stokely
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 04:40:08PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: If this is going to be a static release (calling it RELENG_5_anything is a mistake IMHO) then this isn't a big deal. But if people are expecting it to have ongoing secirity fixes etc like we do with RELENG_4_5 etc then we have a

Re: 5.x packages and request for help.

2002-03-14 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:01:47PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: I think it's idiotic to put spackle over the broken window, paint the wall, and then call it fixed. I know what objprelink is, and as far as I'm concerned it's there to work around the substandard support that C++ gets from the

Call for Submissions: FreeBSD 5.0 DP1 Testing Guide

2002-03-14 Thread Murray Stokely
As part of the release documentation for 5.0 DP1, we would like to provide a comprehensive testing guide. If you have code in -CURRENT that you would like to receive feedback on from the developer preview, then please submit a short email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following: 1. A