[Crawling out of hiding again]
-On [20010611 19:30], Andrey A. Chernov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I agree, but just imagine that I have assumption that Peter already
resolve this issue with Nick (since he do repo copy) and you'll find
a reason to not be extra-cautious.
First lesson I learned
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 13:04:42 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
While I appreciate the sentiment behind your recent commits to doc/, the
last time we did a rename like this there was a lengthy discussion prior to
the changes, and we did them by repo-copy.
1) Lengthy discussion already happens
Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While I appreciate the sentiment behind your recent commits to doc/, the
last time we did a rename like this there was a lengthy discussion prior to
the changes, and we did them by repo-copy.
1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n
2)
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n
2) Repo-copy was done by Peter.
We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree.
Renaming is a technical question not related to doc. Having both old and
new names
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 17:50:43 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n
2) Repo-copy was done by Peter.
We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree.
Renaming is
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
Please take care of 4-stable system.
For that reason currently I don't touch information about i18n names in
localization chapter - a patch needed there notifying that names are
different for FreeBSD 5.x - I plan to produce it
Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 22:37:12 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
1) Lengthy discussion already happens in -i18n
2) Repo-copy was done by Peter.
We discussed in -i18n ML, but you said NOTHING about doc/ tree.
Renaming is a technical question
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 00:51:32 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
o tell Nik about the change.
Nik is responsible for doc/ tree.
o discussion about when we do repo-copy.
To minimize the side effect of the change, prior announcement
(at least, to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and
If memory serves me right, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 00:51:32 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
o tell Nik about the change.
Nik is responsible for doc/ tree.
o discussion about when we do repo-copy.
To minimize the side effect of the change, prior
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
PDT. This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!?
No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most
people read your heads-up message! Did you realistically think that a
two-hour advance notice on a
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 21:19:53 +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
Since RELNOTES branched I left to RELNOTES people to decide if they
want to follow new names policy or not.
I mean, for -stable.
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If memory serves me right, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
There would have been less confusion if your heads-up had actually been=
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sent with enough advance warning that people would have actually *read*=
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it.
I agree, but just imagine that I have assumption that Peter already
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=20
So is immediate breakage.
Yes, but fixed. It seems that people forget that every big change means
some period to settle down.
RELNOTESng is broken for RELENG_4. I would have
If memory serves me right, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 11:42:27 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
=20
Immediate MFC is against our policy, isn't?=3D20
=20
So is immediate breakage.
Yes, but fixed.
It's still broken.
It seems that people forget that every big change
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 13:35:39 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
RELNOTESng depends on part of the doc/ tree. Note that doc/ is not
I understand now. That info you can provide from the beginning to minimize
messages exchange. I am open to discuss how to fix it. My suggestions are:
MFC
I'm going to respond to exactly one line of your email:
Fix RELNOTESng affected pathes to new scheme without MFCing
This is the solution I am favoring, pending some discussion with nik.
Please let me deal with it. Thanks.
I am deliberately *not* responding to the remainder of this
At 1:18 AM +0400 6/12/01, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
I understand now. That info you can provide from the beginning
to minimize messages exchange. I am open to discuss how to fix it.
I think it is probably best to let Bruce Mah figure out why
it has broken, and let him provide the best immediate
Andrey A. Chernov wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 09:45:23 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
PDT. This was, er, let's see, about *two hours* later?!?
=20
No wonder no one objected...I bet you were already finished before most=
=20
people read your heads-up message! Did you realistically
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 16:33:06 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:
I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that
this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression
I say there that names change was discussed in i18n
that this was all settled. If
I'm picking a random message out of the thread to reply to, and as
much as I hate contributing to a flame-war, this issue has not yet
been mentioned.
All the bickering about this not being discussed aside, fixing the
relnotes isn't going to be the end of the story: the web site is
broken. Well,
Andrey A. Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 16:33:06 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:
I did the repo copy based on the information I had.. ie: you told me that
this had all been discussed and I was left with the distinct impression
I say there that names change was
Dima Dorfman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(The first URL still exists because the contents of the web site is
never actually wiped; normally, it's just installed over.) This
breaks *a lot* of links. Not only within the web site, but external
links as well. This is, quite franky, unacceptable.
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