ACPI suspend/resume on RELENG_7 vs. Dell Inspiron XPS
I have a Dell Inspiron XPS (3.4 GHz P4 Prescott) that will be four years old in a few more days. Currently, I'm running 6.3 (mostly), but I intend to install 7.1 once it has been released. One thing that has never worked for me under FreeBSD on this machine is the standby stuff (suspend/resume, etc.). Does anyone know whether this will finally work right under RELENG_7 (especially 7.1-RELEASE)? Thanks in advance for any information on this matter. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ACPI suspend/resume on RELENG_7 vs. Dell Inspiron XPS
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:57:15AM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: I have a Dell Inspiron XPS (3.4 GHz P4 Prescott) that will be four years old in a few more days. Currently, I'm running 6.3 (mostly), but I intend to install 7.1 once it has been released. One thing that has never worked for me under FreeBSD on this machine is the standby stuff (suspend/resume, etc.). Does anyone know whether this will finally work right under RELENG_7 (especially 7.1-RELEASE)? I'd recommend posting the issue you have to freebsd-acpi. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help! (Re: 7.1)
Ott Köstner wrote: I had my workstation running 7.0-STABLE. Perfectly well till today. Now I compiled and installed the latest 7.1-PRERELEASE and now Thunderbird and Firefox got really SLOW. Everything works, but Xorg is consuming time constatnly. Scrolling inbox is especially slow. Asked the question and... answering it by my self... ;) Seems that rebuiding Nvidia 'Quadro4 380 XGL' driver solved the problem. Could it be? Anyway, it's OK now. I also rebuilt the Thunderbird. Greetings, O.K. -- Testi oma Interneti kiirust / Test Your Internet speed: http://speedtest.zzz.ee/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delay startup of services in rc.conf || elswhere
Hello, I have a server configured to start 10 services at startup (in /etc/ rc.conf) Unfortunately, the startup of MySQL seems to be returning ok before It actually has started completely the program… the next program rely on MySQL and does not start well because the database is not fully started. I would like to introduce something like a sleep 10 timer in the service startup process… How can I do that? Gregober --- PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vuala for FreeBSD
Are there any chances to see FreeBSD supported by vua.la? Does anybody know? Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPsec's use of processors
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Patrick Lamaizière [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Le Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:37:58 +0200, Riaan Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I would like to know how IPsec makes use of a multi processor machine? I have gateway (FreeBSD 7.0) with four SAs configured. When testing throughput through the configured SAs, I see (with systat) that only one cpu works really hard (+-10% idle min), two others work a bit (+-70% idle min) and the fourth CPU does pretty much nothing. Is this normal, shouldn't at least the two cpus work hard because of the high throughput? I guess that's because the cryptographic requests are dispatched and done by two kernel threads. The thread 'crypto' dispatches and processes the requests, the thread 'crypto-returns' returns the results. You can see these kernel threads with top S H Regards. Thanx for your reply. So there is one thread to dispatch the crypto operations to the crypto providers and another to get the return. Also if i am using software crypto providers, as supplied per default on FreeBSD, there will be effectively one thread that does the actual symmetric crypto operations. I think this is so because the actual crypto operations in cryptosoft are synchronous and will complete and then return. With hardware crypto providers the crypto thread will pass the operation to the device and return letting the driver of the device call back when it is done. If my above assesment is correct then using the software crypto providers will result in only 1 CPU effectively being used for symmetric encryption. Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vuala for FreeBSD
Are there any chances to see FreeBSD supported by vua.la? Does anybody know? no idea what vua.la, but ask it's author about it. if it's already unix program (be it linux, solaris, netbsd, whatever) it's just matter of few hours (worst case few days) of work. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
I have read briefly on FreeBSD and it seems to be the winner on speed and stability versus Linux and of course MS Windows. versus linux - of course, versus windows - it's different OS, we should define how do you compare. for example running windows apps under FreeBSD with wine will probably be slower than under windows. As your laptop was probably sold with windows, request it's manufacturer/reseller to fix the problems or give it back, and buy another better supported. Anyway, how about you plus Google cash, and others (?), putting a simple easy partition of MS hard disks and FreeBSD install with a nice GUI. And getting Google to distribute it to the World. My question is, how much once again i repeat - FreeBSD is not windows replacement. it's unix. All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. it will be very nice if someone/some company produce true windows compatible OS, running windows programs, windows installers, but being much better and faster. of course - they could reuse lots of FreeBSD code, like device drivers for example and graphics modules from Xorg. FreeBSD is very good in hardware support now, with most of drivers being very stable and high performance. for now there is no such thing, except ReactOS which is in early alpha state. hardware can you produce drivers for. Presumbably Apple Mac OSX have most of the hardware drivers, so can you?? Mac OSX reused lots of unix code, mostly FreeBSD AFAIK, + everything by it's own. it could be seen as a competitor for M$ Windows, if it's better or not i don't know, i don't use both. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delay startup of services in rc.conf || elswhere
Hello bsd, I once had a problem just like yours. I introduced at the end of the mysql startup script from /usr/local/etc/rc.d a sleep 10 command and that did the trick. all the best, v On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:05 PM, bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a server configured to start 10 services at startup (in /etc/rc.conf) Unfortunately, the startup of MySQL seems to be returning ok before It actually has started completely the program… the next program rely on MySQL and does not start well because the database is not fully started. I would like to introduce something like a sleep 10 timer in the service startup process… How can I do that? Gregober --- PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delay startup of services in rc.conf || elswhere
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 12:05:33 bsd wrote: Hello, I have a server configured to start 10 services at startup (in /etc/ rc.conf) Unfortunately, the startup of MySQL seems to be returning ok before It actually has started completely the program… the next program rely on MySQL and does not start well because the database is not fully started. I would like to introduce something like a sleep 10 timer in the service startup process… How can I do that? There's no standard support for this. You will have to modify the script in (/usr/local)/etc/rc.d/ for that service, specifically the ${name}_start function. You will however have to do this with each update, so it is generally better to contact the author of the service that depends on MySQL, to more gracefully start up: if the connection can't be made that it tries again until it does (maybe with a max_retries setting). This is very trivial stuff in daemons. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
If you're thinking of trying out FreeBSD, then this is the right place to come. A word of warning though: it's not at all like Windows, or even MacOSX. You will be expected to learn quite a bit about the low level MacOSX can run unix programs, but in every other respect is not like unix as you said. nitty-gritty of the OS in order to achieve the best results. Of course, the best results are very good indeed, and in my humble opinion, well worth the effort required. Installing on laptop type hardware is a tricky proposition: it's very much luck of the draw whether your particular model has sufficient driver support For FreeBSD supported laptops Lenovo as generally good choice. Of course others may work too. It's best to go to the shop and run LiveCD, check dmesg to see if everything is detected, check if it works, and then buy/not buy. But yes - laptops have very often strange/nonstandard hardware. Driver support really is the kicker in all of this. Apple MacOSX doesn't have this problem, since it only runs on Apple proprietary hardware. If the AFAIK it can be run on ordinary PC with simple patches. just because todays Apple hardware are just ordinary PCs, just with 2-3 times higher price ;) Even if Apple does have a driver for a piece of kit not already supported in FreeBSD, it cannot be assumed that Apple will automatically donate the code to the FreeBSD project. BTW are there any drivers in FreeBSD source tree that was written by Apple? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 12:27:42 Wojciech Puchar wrote: If you're thinking of trying out FreeBSD, then this is the right place to come. A word of warning though: it's not at all like Windows, or even MacOSX. You will be expected to learn quite a bit about the low level MacOSX can run unix programs, but in every other respect is not like unix as you said. nitty-gritty of the OS in order to achieve the best results. Of course, the best results are very good indeed, and in my humble opinion, well worth the effort required. Installing on laptop type hardware is a tricky proposition: it's very much luck of the draw whether your particular model has sufficient driver support For FreeBSD supported laptops Lenovo as generally good choice. Not anymore. They were when it was still IBM. Some in-depth discussion here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2008-July/010831.html And of course, there's: http://www.ixsystems.com/products/bsd-laptop.html -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smbfs 2 GB file size limit
At 12:23 AM 11/18/2008, David Horn wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have FreeBSD 7.0 Release and if I mount_smbfs a network NTFS share I have a 2 GB size limit on files. I checked the handbook and list archives but have not found a solution. I just ran a quick test, and was not able to reproduce this issue with the mount_smbfs from FreeBSD 7.0. I tried against a Windows 2003 Server SP2, Windows XP SP3, and Samba 3.0 {on FreeBSD 7} with a 3.5GB file. Was your issue with reading from or writing to a SMB share ? It was writing to a smb share. What is the server software and OS version ? (if Microsoft Windows, please include Service Pack number as well, as it might make a difference) Windows 2003 server 32bit. How much disk space is left on your server volume ? Over a terabyte free Are there disk quotas enabled on the server ? None What error message are you getting from your FreeBSD client (if any) ? No error message, it just stopped writing at 1 Gb. I was doing this using scp. Can you check the smb server logs and see if you are getting any error messages there ? Well I'm just mounting the volume to FreeBSD from the Windows server so not sure I'll find much in the logs besides the system log, but I will look. You may want to get a Wireshark trace and see if you can capture the SMB error message/error code. I have heard of people running into similar problems when running against older server software (NT 4.0/old samba) when the SMB session did not negotiate large file/large write support (a function of the SMB server capabilities session negotiation) I saw posts to that effect and that you needed samba 3.x to support large files sizes, and the lfs option. But the mount_smbfs doesn't offer any large file option. Supposedly there is an smbmount as part of the standard samba, but that doesn't seem to install from any of the samba ports. smbmount is not included in the FreeBSD port of samba, as it is Linux kernel specific. mount_smbfs(8) is the correct userland app. You could always try the samba smbclient(1) to access SMB shares using an FTP-like environment. I saw that as an option. I may try that to test this issue. Any help would be appreciated. Sorry I do not have a good solution for you. Perhaps someone else will give you better advice. Thanks for the help! -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delay startup of services in rc.conf || elswhere
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:05:33 +0100 bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a server configured to start 10 services at startup (in /etc/ rc.conf) Unfortunately, the startup of MySQL seems to be returning ok before It actually has started completely the program___ the next program rely on MySQL and does not start well because the database is not fully started. I would like to introduce something like a sleep 10 timer in the service startup process___ The cleanest solution is to create a minimal rc script that will sort between the mysql and the affected services, and just give it a start command that pauses for 10 seconds. I do a similar thing where I poll for network access before allowing anything that relies on it to start. #!/bin/sh # # PROVIDE: networkwait # REQUIRE: named # BEFORE: ntpdate . /etc/rc.subr networkwait_enable=${networkwait_enable:-NO} name=networkwait rcvar=`set_rcvar` stop_cmd=: start_cmd=networkwait_start networkwait_start(){ if [ $networkwait_ping_hosts ] ; then host_list=${networkwait_ping_hosts} else # No hosts supplied - use external nameservers host_list=`awk '/^ *nameserver/ {print $2} ' /etc/resolv.conf | grep -E -v '^127\.0+\.0+\.0*1'` fi echo -n Waiting for network access ... while true ; do for inet_host in $host_list ; do if ping -nc1 $inet_host 21 /dev/null ; then echo ping to ${inet_host} succeeded. # Re-Sync ipfilter and pf in case # they had failed DNS lookups /etc/rc.d/ipfilter resync /etc/rc.d/pf resync exit 0 fi done sleep 5 done } load_rc_config ${name} run_rc_command $1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vuala for FreeBSD (means wuala)
wua.la is what you search for java based, maybe in qemu or linux emulation.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar typed: once again i repeat - FreeBSD is not windows replacement. it's unix. All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth, even when you keep repeating it over and over. there's a whole spectrum of window/desktop environments to choose from for every conceivable usage or need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pkg_delete core dump
Hi Mel, the link to download the +CONTENTS file is here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YDKFRCZG, and you know what? I don't have +REQUIRED_BY file. thanks!! there is a empty entry in the +CONTENTS file: [snip] @pkgdep linux-scim-libs-1.4.4 @comment DEPORIGIN:textproc/linux-scim-libs @pkgdep @comment $FreeBSD: ports/print/acroread8/pkg-plist,v 1.2 2008/04/13 18:36:28 hrs Exp $ [snip] TFC On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2008 05:18:37 Mel wrote: On Monday 17 November 2008 22:15:32 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi Mel, thank you for your help, now I recompile pkg_install and run pkg_delete again, under print/acroread8 it still coredump. here is the result: # gdb pkg_delete pkg_delete.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd... Core was generated by `pkg_delete'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libmd.so.4...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libmd.so.4 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0 0x2815dae6 in strcmp () from /lib/libc.so.7 (gdb) bt #0 0x2815dae6 in strcmp () from /lib/libc.so.7 #1 0x0804b50c in isinstalledpkg (name=0x0) at /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/match.c:374 There's the culprit. strcmp called on a null pointer. The reason is that the +CONTENTS file contains corrupted data. Most likely a @pkgdep line without a package name. Could you show the output of: grep @pkgdep /var/db/pkg/acroread8-8.1.2_2/+CONTENTS Actually, considering it comes from undepend, could you also include: cat /var/db/pkg/acroread8-8.1.2_2/+REQUIRED_BY -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help needed: Which gcc version supports xmemalign
Hello, I'm working on Solaris 9 and using gcc version 2.9.5. I'm facing issues with respect to memory misalignment. I'm getting SIGBUS errors. Through various websites, I found that xmemalign can be used while compiling to handle memory alignment issues. Bu the version I'm using doesn't support xmemalign option. Even gcc version 3.4.3 doesn't support. It says: gcc: language memalign=1i not recognized Can you let me know which version of gcc supports xmemalign option on solaris? Also where can I download the gcc version from? Thanks and Regards, Viji ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Hi, On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 13:31, Ruben de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar typed: once again i repeat - FreeBSD is not windows replacement. it's unix. All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth, even when you keep repeating it over and over. there's a whole spectrum of window/desktop environments to choose from for every conceivable usage or need. You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here using this great OS if it had been you I met in the first place. Fortuantely, there were very kind people here who helped me make first steps into the world of UNIX and then continued supporting me along the way. By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are only discouraging fresh blood from entering the system. It is true that the system has steep learning curve but it is not an elite system for the chosen few. Contrary to what you think, the more people use it, the more chance we get of (for example) hardware producers making FBSD drivers. So please stop discouraging people from using it. Please. -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pkg_delete core dump
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 13:37:11 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi Mel, the link to download the +CONTENTS file is here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YDKFRCZG, and you know what? I don't have +REQUIRED_BY file. thanks!! there is a empty entry in the +CONTENTS file: [snip] @pkgdep linux-scim-libs-1.4.4 @comment DEPORIGIN:textproc/linux-scim-libs @pkgdep @comment $FreeBSD: ports/print/acroread8/pkg-plist,v 1.2 2008/04/13 18:36:28 hrs Exp $ That's definetely the cause of the crash. The patch below should guard against pkg_delete crashing. How this line got created in the first place, is very weird. I would run: grep -E '^@(pkgdep|name)[[:space:]]*$' /var/db/pkg/*/+CONTENTS Which would show all dependency lines and name directives that are empty. Maybe there's a common factor. For the moment my money is on linux-nvu as that would be the dependency that belongs at the empty spot: # make -C /usr/ports/print/acroread8 actual-package-depends | sort -u -t : -k 2 linux-atk-1.9.1:accessibility/linux-atk linux-glib2-2.6.6_1:devel/linux-glib2 linux_base-fc-4_13:emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux-cairo-1.0.2:graphics/linux-cairo linux-jpeg-6b.34:graphics/linux-jpeg linux-png-1.2.8_2:graphics/linux-png linux-tiff-3.7.1:graphics/linux-tiff hicolor-icon-theme-0.10_2:misc/hicolor-icon-theme acroreadwrapper-0.0.20080906:print/acroreadwrapper linux-expat-1.95.8:textproc/linux-expat linux-scim-libs-1.4.4:textproc/linux-scim-libs linux-nvu-1.0:www/linux-nvu linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7:x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_1:x11-themes/linux-hicolor-icon-theme linux-gtk2-2.6.10:x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 linux-pango-1.10.2:x11-toolkits/linux-pango linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5:x11/linux-xorg-libs -- Mel Index: plist.c === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/plist.c,v retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.52 plist.c --- plist.c 28 Mar 2007 05:33:52 - 1.52 +++ plist.c 18 Nov 2008 12:51:02 - @@ -31,6 +31,11 @@ { PackingList tmp; +if( arg == NULL || arg[0] == '\0' ) +{ + warnx(Invalid packing list line ignored); + return; +} tmp = new_plist_entry(); tmp-name = copy_string(arg); tmp-type = type; @@ -61,6 +66,11 @@ { PackingList tmp; +if( arg == NULL || arg[0] == '\0' ) +{ + warnx(Invalid packing list line ignored); + return; +} tmp = new_plist_entry(); tmp-name = copy_string(arg); tmp-type = type; ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth, i exactly repeat opinion of LOTS of windoze users that tried any unix GUI. it's poor mans windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
usage or need. You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here is someone that simply use unix an expert? no. By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement. as linux tries for many years to be windows replacement - it's both low end unix and low end windows replacement, windows for poor. not a nice future for FreeBSD IMHO. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help needed: Which gcc version supports xmemalign
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 11:40:08 Vijayalakshmi BN wrote: I'm working on Solaris 9 and using gcc version 2.9.5. I can't for the life of me see any reason how this would be related to FreeBSD. Running FreeBSD 4 (gcc 2.x) on Sun hardware, maybe, but that doesn't seem to be the case. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
For FreeBSD supported laptops Lenovo as generally good choice. Not anymore. They were when it was still IBM. Some in-depth discussion here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2008-July/010831.html thanks for info. it was really on place as i told someone yesterday. fortunately he didn't yet buy laptop And of course, there's: http://www.ixsystems.com/products/bsd-laptop.html very expensive. some lower end model (in addition to that) would be nice. FreeBSD isn't slow, so in most cases much less powerful and cheaper do fine. i understand good part of the price is because it's made quite resistant physically. anyway - if i will like to buy NEW laptop and someone will sell it in Poland i would buy this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pkg_delete core dump
it works!! thanks Mel. TFC On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2008 13:37:11 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi Mel, the link to download the +CONTENTS file is here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YDKFRCZG, and you know what? I don't have +REQUIRED_BY file. thanks!! there is a empty entry in the +CONTENTS file: [snip] @pkgdep linux-scim-libs-1.4.4 @comment DEPORIGIN:textproc/linux-scim-libs @pkgdep @comment $FreeBSD: ports/print/acroread8/pkg-plist,v 1.2 2008/04/13 18:36:28 hrs Exp $ That's definetely the cause of the crash. The patch below should guard against pkg_delete crashing. How this line got created in the first place, is very weird. I would run: grep -E '^@(pkgdep|name)[[:space:]]*$' /var/db/pkg/*/+CONTENTS Which would show all dependency lines and name directives that are empty. Maybe there's a common factor. For the moment my money is on linux-nvu as that would be the dependency that belongs at the empty spot: # make -C /usr/ports/print/acroread8 actual-package-depends | sort -u -t : -k 2 linux-atk-1.9.1:accessibility/linux-atk linux-glib2-2.6.6_1:devel/linux-glib2 linux_base-fc-4_13:emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux-cairo-1.0.2:graphics/linux-cairo linux-jpeg-6b.34:graphics/linux-jpeg linux-png-1.2.8_2:graphics/linux-png linux-tiff-3.7.1:graphics/linux-tiff hicolor-icon-theme-0.10_2:misc/hicolor-icon-theme acroreadwrapper-0.0.20080906:print/acroreadwrapper linux-expat-1.95.8:textproc/linux-expat linux-scim-libs-1.4.4:textproc/linux-scim-libs linux-nvu-1.0:www/linux-nvu linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7:x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_1:x11-themes/linux-hicolor-icon-theme linux-gtk2-2.6.10:x11-toolkits/linux-gtk2 linux-pango-1.10.2:x11-toolkits/linux-pango linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5:x11/linux-xorg-libs -- Mel Index: plist.c === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/lib/plist.c,v retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.52 plist.c --- plist.c 28 Mar 2007 05:33:52 - 1.52 +++ plist.c 18 Nov 2008 12:51:02 - @@ -31,6 +31,11 @@ { PackingList tmp; +if( arg == NULL || arg[0] == '\0' ) +{ + warnx(Invalid packing list line ignored); + return; +} tmp = new_plist_entry(); tmp-name = copy_string(arg); tmp-type = type; @@ -61,6 +66,11 @@ { PackingList tmp; +if( arg == NULL || arg[0] == '\0' ) +{ + warnx(Invalid packing list line ignored); + return; +} tmp = new_plist_entry(); tmp-name = copy_string(arg); tmp-type = type; ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:13 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: usage or need. You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here is someone that simply use unix an expert? no. By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement. as linux tries for many years to be windows replacement - it's both low end unix and low end windows replacement, windows for poor. This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not very powerful. Compared e.g. with the old OS/2 desktop, which was really powerful, flexible (and object oriented). How disappointed I was when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows although they have a much smaller market share. Anyhow, of course you can fully replace Windows with a unix(-like) system and a suitable desktop enviroment (e.g. KDE, Gnome, XFCE). It depends on your specific requirements and if applications exist which do what you need. But saying that GUI's under Unix are per se inferior is just spreading FUD. Leave that to MS. ;-) Just a small example, how limited Windows really is: Even today it is not possible to configure the standard interface of Windows XP (Luna) in any other color than blue, olive green and silver. LOL. The only advantage Windows has is that many people are used to it. -- Manfred Usselmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large binary, why not strip ?
On 11/17/08, Masoom Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:56:31PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: most of the programs installed from ports have large binary size on disk stripping em all reduces their size dramatically I cannot see the reason for not stripping them by default ? me too do I miss anything ? no. I am confused why both of you are seeing most of the programs installed this way. Can you confirm that this is true and not just an exaggeration? As Matthew says, there are some ports that fail to strip their binaries because of how they install files (using cp etc). These are bugs that should be reported to their maintainers on a case by case basis. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before sending mail I manually stripped * in /usr/local/bin And what about /usr/local/lib/** ? else I cud send u the o/p of `ls -lhS` yes, most is bit exaggerated...I perhaps was talking about first five binaries listed in increasing order of size... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not very powerful. as KDE and Gnome and others. when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows although they have a much smaller market share. so why it have a much smaller market share? Anyhow, of course you can fully replace Windows with a unix(-like) system and a suitable desktop enviroment (e.g. KDE, Gnome, XFCE). It depends on your specific requirements and if applications exist which do what you need. But saying that GUI's under Unix are per se inferior is just spreading FUD. Leave that to MS. ;-) after being one of sponsors of easy linux distributions and desktop environment (RedHat), microsoft now can say the truth that it's crap. Just a small example, how limited Windows really is: Even today it is you don't have to tell me this. as all unix desktop environments are. because this style of computing is limited by general. In technical university nearest me there was (or is) a guy that when teaching students unix he said: --- Don't use windows. Not because it crashes, not because it's buggy and not because it's damn slow. But because it learns bad habits, that are then almost impossible to get rid of. For me the best sentence about it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wifi Card for laptop
Hi all I would like to buy a PCMCIA card for my new laptop (because FreeBSD do not recognise my internal wifi AND RJ45 ethernet cardsh** windows say it's Broadcom netXtreme 57xx gigabit ). So I just want to known what 802.11G card I can buy without drivers problem. My local dealer have those card : Netgear WPN511 RangeMax Netgear WG511 | PCMCIA WiFi D-LINK DWA-610 D-LINK DWL-G630 Trendnet TEW-421PC D-LINK DWA-645 RangeBooster N65 ... Linksys WPC54G Linksys WPC54GS Speedbooster Trendnet TEW-441PC Or maybe you can help me to make my internet RJ45 card working ;-) Regards. JAS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shrink ntfs
Le 18/11/2008 à 01:39:48+0100, Albert Shih a écrit Hi all, Newbie question from a not newbie (well I think ;-) ) I've install many FreeBSD, but I always use the all disk. If I've a laptop come with winxp ? How can I shrink the WinNT partition ? Can the FreeBSD install CD do that ? If he can't what's your advice for some software to do that ? Thanks for your help. gparted work fine. Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Heure local/Local time: Mar 18 nov 2008 15:55:47 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Manfred Usselmann wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:18:13 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: usage or need. You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here is someone that simply use unix an expert? no. By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement. as linux tries for many years to be windows replacement - it's both low end unix and low end windows replacement, windows for poor. This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not very powerful. Compared e.g. with the old OS/2 desktop, which was really powerful, flexible (and object oriented). How disappointed I was when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows although they have a much smaller market share. Anyhow, of course you can fully replace Windows with a unix(-like) system and a suitable desktop enviroment (e.g. KDE, Gnome, XFCE). It depends on your specific requirements and if applications exist which do what you need. But saying that GUI's under Unix are per se inferior is just spreading FUD. Leave that to MS. ;-) Just a small example, how limited Windows really is: Even today it is not possible to configure the standard interface of Windows XP (Luna) in any other color than blue, olive green and silver. LOL. The only advantage Windows has is that many people are used to it. I am one of the few UNIX administrators who prefers to use Windows (XP or 2K; cannot stand Vista) as a desktop/workstation operating system. If we really want to talk about all the reasons why I abhor X, we can discuss them some other time, because ultimately they don't (and shouldn't) matter. Why? Because each person should conclude what works best for them, depending upon whatever their needs are. I have a lot of reasons for loathing X. A *lot*. I've spent a lot of time (and even money; anyone remember AccelX back in the 90s? Yep, I bought it) trying to adapt over the years, and I cannot. I'm not going to provide details because it'll just induce more parking lot burn-outs and that's not what I want. Comparatively: I have co-workers who love X and KDE, and hate Windows -- and I have co-workers who absolutely love OS X's GUI, and hate X and Windows. (In fact, the few OS X users I know get quite irate when they find some OS X program actually relies on X11). The only time I curse Windows is when CMD.EXE or command-line utilities come into play. Anyone who's used *IX will know what I mean by this. PowerShell/Monad is a joke, Cygwin is an atrocity, 4NT/4DOS is too quirky, and *IX application ports often have too many bugs (either not handling NTFS filenames correctly (resorting to 8.3 format), or having filesize limitations due to the porter doing it wrong; 2GB limits are found in common programs including Win32 wget). Every operating system/GUI/environment has its share of quirks. It just depends on which ones you can tolerate. I can tolerate some of Windows' quirks (sans focus stealing, although I'm told KDE applicationg are starting down this road too), but cannot with X or OS X. I suppose it's because I've a mental stigma; I associate *IX and UNIX with servers, and I likely always will. *IX/UNIX on the desktop is a crazy idea to me. That's all I have to say on the matter; I won't reply here on out. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not very powerful. as KDE and Gnome and others. GUI's (and operating systems) should be evaluated by user type. For many, the command line is limiting. For others, it is limitless. when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows although they have a much smaller market share. so why it have a much smaller market share? This is a big question that goes down many roads, including monopolistic practices, effective marketing and the fact that Apple controls both their OS and hardware, which made it less competitive for many years. Better does not always mean success in the marketplace. One of the best examples of this is OS/2. When I first started learning about Linux (FreeBSD came later), I read many messages from older IT veterans that if OS/2 had succeeded, they would have no need for Linux. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ath vs Netgear wg311t stuck beacon error
I am having trouble getting a Netgear WG311t card to work, I had tried 7.1beta but kept getting irq interrupt storm no matter what slot or irq was set to the slot/card. Installed 6.3, stuck beacon error. I have tried a, b, and g mode. I have tested the card with other os's to see if was hardware. ifconfig ath0 up ifconfig ath0 inet 10.10.1.14 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid myap media 11g mediaopt hostap from /var/log/messages Nov 17 21:21:07 wall kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:21:25 wall last message repeated 30 times Nov 17 21:21:25 wall syslogd: exiting on signal 15 Nov 17 21:22:18 wall syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall last message repeated 2 times Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...ath0: stuck beacon; resetting ( Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: done Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmi Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...1 ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: 1 ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: 0 ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: 0 ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) Nov 17 21:22:18 wall kernel: ath0: stuck beacon; resetting (bmiss count 4) wall# vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 94 0 irq15: ata1 47 0 irq17: ath0 228298 33 irq20: atapci0 4678 0 irq23: vr0 2338 0 cpu0: timer 13615967 1999 Total 13851422 2034 pciconf -lv [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x1b451019 chip=0x02041106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1:class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x12041106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:2:class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x22041106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:3:class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x32041106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = '1394 i2c CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:4:class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x42041106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:7:class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x72041106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'K8M400 CPU to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0xb1881106 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT8237 K8HTB CPU to AGP 2.0/3.0 Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:9:0: class=0x02 card=0x700c1799 chip=0x001a168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' device = 'Atheros AR5005G Atheros AR5005G 802.11abg NIC Chipset / TP-Link (TL-WN551G)' class = network subclass = ethernet [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0: class=0x02 card=0x05701317 chip=0x09851317 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ADMtek Inc' device = 'AN983 FastNIC PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet [EMAIL PROTECTED]:15:0: class=0x01018f card=0x1b451019 chip=0x31491106 rev=0x80 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT8237 VT6410 SATA RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA [EMAIL PROTECTED]:15:1: class=0x01018a card=0x1b451019 chip=0x05711106 rev=0x06 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc' device = 'VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C Bus Master IDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA [EMAIL PROTECTED]:16:0:class=0x0c0300 card=0x1b451019 chip=0x30381106 rev=0x81 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'VIA
OMSA Live CD, DSET and FreeBSD based Dell 2950 Server?
Hello there, To diagnose and solve a Disk Encluser issue, I am advised to run two tools 1. Run OMSA live CD on the Server? Since, OMSA Live CD is linux based, I am just wondering if it will work or not? 2. Run Dell's DSET Tool, which is also for Linux systems And seeking your comments in this regards: *Server Configuration with FreeBSD 7.0* ** *2 x PE2950 III Quad Core Xeon E5450 3.0GHz,2x6MB,1333FSB *Riser with PCI Express Support (2x PCIe x8 slots; 1x PCIe x4 slot) PE2950 English rack power cord PE2950 Bezel Assembly *16GB (8x2GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz FBD 6 x 450GB SAS 15k 3.5 HD Hot Plug* PE2950 III - Chassis 3.5HDD x6 Backplane *PERC 6/i, Integrated Controller Card x6 backplane *CD/DVD Drive Cable 8X DVD-ROM Drive IDE PE2950 III Redundant Power Supply No Power Cord Rack Power Distribution Unit Power Cord TCP/IP Offload Engine 2P Broadcom TCP/IP Offload Engine functionality (TOE) Not Enabled Drac 5 Card *PE2950 III C5 MSS R10 Add-in PERC 5/i / 6/i * -- Thanks! BR / vj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 12:23:24 +0100: FreeBSD is very good in hardware support now, with most of drivers being very stable and high performance. for now there is no such thing, except ReactOS which is in early alpha state. Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in speed and scalability. Both are well optimized. Unix is for servers, Windoze/OSX is for clients. They're much better clients than Unix. Cut and paste still doesn't work well in Unix GUIs. Think about that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
I am one of the few UNIX administrators who prefers to use Windows (XP or 2K; cannot stand Vista) as a desktop/workstation operating system. if you need really windows-like computing/desktop-environments/whatever is called they RIGHT - windows is most windows like and it's good choice. bought it) trying to adapt over the years, and I cannot. I'm not going so you made the right decision. but i think you use your windows through some NAT equipment/server when logging to your unix servers, or your passwords will quickly be compromissed ;) Comparatively: I have co-workers who love X and KDE, and hate Windows -- i don't like any of them, because i can't concentrate on the actual work with them. but not hate. hate in that context is nonsense. The only time I curse Windows is when CMD.EXE or command-line utilities windows CMD is a joke. simply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in for benchmarks doing same thing over and over, or same thing in parallel linux can even be better. but try running many different tasks in parallel under linux. FreeBSD flies, while linux chokes. that's why i don't like benchmarks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wifi Card for laptop
Albert Shih([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 15:55:35 +0100: Netgear WPN511 RangeMax Netgear WG511 | PCMCIA WiFi D-LINK DWA-610 D-LINK DWL-G630 Trendnet TEW-421PC D-LINK DWA-645 RangeBooster N65 ... Linksys WPC54G Linksys WPC54GS Speedbooster Trendnet TEW-441PC The Ralink chipset is well supported, and they are cheap cards. I have this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315047 It works well even in host-ap mode, good reception. Did I mention cheap?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 16:51:16 +0100: Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in for benchmarks doing same thing over and over, or same thing in parallel linux can even be better. but try running many different tasks in parallel under linux. FreeBSD flies, while linux chokes. Can you point out some places on the web that confirm this? that's why i don't like benchmarks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wifi Card for laptop
D-LINK DWL-G630 Trendnet TEW-421PC D-LINK DWA-645 RangeBooster N65 ... Linksys WPC54G Linksys WPC54GS Speedbooster Trendnet TEW-441PC ask about chipset they use and then look at FreeBSD site for hardware compatibility. FreeBSD supports a lot of wireless cards. sometimes even more works using driver converter (ndisgen) that converts windows XP drivers. But performance may (will) be lower. Or maybe you can help me to make my internet RJ45 card working ;-) what it is? FreeBSD supports most (but not all) network cards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:16:37PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar typed: All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth, i exactly repeat opinion of LOTS of windoze users that tried any unix GUI. And you fail miserably at noticing a single opinion of any unix user here who works happily in a (mostly) GUI environment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help needed: Which gcc version supports xmemalign
In the last episode (Nov 18), Vijayalakshmi BN said: I'm working on Solaris 9 and using gcc version 2.9.5. I'm facing issues with respect to memory misalignment. I'm getting SIGBUS errors. Through various websites, I found that xmemalign can be used while compiling to handle memory alignment issues. Bu the version I'm using doesn't support xmemalign option. Even gcc version 3.4.3 doesn't support. It says: gcc: language memalign=1i not recognized Can you let me know which version of gcc supports xmemalign option on solaris? Also where can I download the gcc version from? -xmemalign=ab is a Sun Studio compiler flag, not a GCC flag. If you don't already have it, you can download it free from http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/ . If for some reason you must use a GCC frontend, you can try GCC for Sparc Systems ( http://cooltools.sunsource.net/gcc/ ), which supports all the regular GCC flags plus many Sun Studio ones, including xmemalign: http://cooltools.sunsource.net/gcc/flags.html But as Mel said, this has nothing to do with FreeBSD, so this post doesn't exist. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:18:13PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: usage or need. You seem to be reserving FBSD only for the experts. I wouldn't be here is someone that simply use unix an expert? no. By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement. Time to forget this.It is a semantic and religious battle playing hair splitting games with words.It is not a MS clone but it is an MS replacement. If you overwrite your MS-Win with FreeBSD, it completely replaces it. It will do everything you need except look like MS-Win and people who are trying to get out of MS-land are happy to find that to be true.Give them a hand rather than a kick in the face. jerry as linux tries for many years to be windows replacement - it's both low end unix and low end windows replacement, windows for poor. not a nice future for FreeBSD IMHO. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Hi, but it is an MS replacement. If you overwrite your MS-Win with FreeBSD, it completely replaces it. It will do everything you need except look like MS-Win and people who are trying to get out of MS-land are happy to find that to be true.Give them a hand rather than a kick in the face. Amen to that! This is something I am also asking for. Wojciech you often help others here. Let's keep it this way. Please?! -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Media Center
Hi all; I have an old laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500), P3 550mhz, 256mb ram 20 gig hdd. I am wondering what the validity of putting FBSD on it running VLC or something like that feeding to my tv. Anyone with any feedback on this. Or is there a FBSD Media Center project out either in alpha or beta? Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Media Center
Gary Hartl wrote: Hi all; I have an old laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500), P3 550mhz, 256mb ram 20 gig hdd. I am wondering what the validity of putting FBSD on it running VLC or something like that feeding to my tv. Anyone with any feedback on this. I believe it will work in this respect, though it will probably be unable to run high bit rate movies. It should play the average DivX though. I would go with a minimal X environment and mplayer (the command line version) which I feel is the best in decoding media files (vlc is also a good choice). Or is there a FBSD Media Center project out either in alpha or beta? Thanks Gary Well, mythtv is in the ports tree, and is the first that comes to mind. I've never used it myself and as I understand it is going to be kind of an overkill for this machine of yours. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:49:40PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not very powerful. as KDE and Gnome and others. when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows although they have a much smaller market share. so why it have a much smaller market share? Because MS wrote restrictive contracts with companies trying to sell PCs saying that if they wanted to put MS on any of their machines, they had to put it on all of them. So, immediately every single PC that was sold ran some MS. Most people went with the flow. It was an easier business decision than trying to buck that current. This action should be considered totally illegal in the USA and probably many other countries. It is restraint of trade and forming a monopoly. Kodak lost a big case with similar ramifications many decades ago when they were refusing to sell film without including processing. But, the law cases against MS tended to be centered around including stuff like IE in the OS and making it difficult to switch to Netscape or other browsers. Forcing the OS on everyone seemed to fall off after the settlement (more like winding down) of those cases and now some PC sellers who still sell XP or Vista will sell you a machine with something else or even nothing. But, the damage is done. People/businesses have put a lot in to MS-Win, not only buying it and hiring large support forces to get it to work, but also in staff training and acquiring other products to function with it. There are plenty of people who are happy to just stick with MS and not think about it any more - just like businesses stuck with IBM and never listened to any other vendor back in their glory days. They will not be the ones who go to the trouble to read enough about FreeBSD to find this Email list and post questions about it. When someone goes looking for something OTHER than MS, then they are out of that MS fold and are searching for something better, not just for MS by another name. FreeBSD IS better. Some portion of those will look at it and decide to forget it. So what!? That is their problem. But, it is completely non-helpful to keep chanting the 'it ain't MS' mantra in the face of people who are looking to get away from MS. That is really 'DIS-ing' then to use a fad term that has fallen out of popularity. It is reasonable to caution people that FreeBSD and other UNIXen have a fairly steep learning curve. But, that is not an inpenetrable impediment. It is just part of the job of moving to something better. Anyone serious about finding a good alternative will take on that challenge willingly. It is not reasonable to continue to throw up unnecesary barriers to people moving to improve themselves. jerry Anyhow, of course you can fully replace Windows with a unix(-like) system and a suitable desktop enviroment (e.g. KDE, Gnome, XFCE). It depends on your specific requirements and if applications exist which do what you need. But saying that GUI's under Unix are per se inferior is just spreading FUD. Leave that to MS. ;-) after being one of sponsors of easy linux distributions and desktop environment (RedHat), microsoft now can say the truth that it's crap. Just a small example, how limited Windows really is: Even today it is you don't have to tell me this. as all unix desktop environments are. because this style of computing is limited by general. In technical university nearest me there was (or is) a guy that when teaching students unix he said: --- Don't use windows. Not because it crashes, not because it's buggy and not because it's damn slow. But because it learns bad habits, that are then almost impossible to get rid of. For me the best sentence about it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:16:37PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. I totally disagree. Please note that your *opinion* doesn't become truth, i exactly repeat opinion of LOTS of windoze users that tried any unix GUI. it's poor mans windows. So, we are not respopnding to someone looking for Windos, but to someone looking for something else.GUI was not even mentioned in the OP.If the guy tries FreeBSD and finds its GUI resources not to his liking he can easily continue looking around. He asked for information about FreeBSD, not about finding a MS-Win look-alike. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] printing question
Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux printing database yet (http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi). Question: Since Mac OS X uses CUPS, if I share the printer on the Mac, will I need to worry about FreeBSD compatibility of the printer? I only need printing functions (not scan, etc) for the FreeBSD computer. Thanks, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:54:48AM -0500, Dan wrote: Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 16:51:16 +0100: Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in for benchmarks doing same thing over and over, or same thing in parallel linux can even be better. but try running many different tasks in parallel under linux. FreeBSD flies, while linux chokes. Can you point out some places on the web that confirm this? I can't point this out between Linux and FreeBSD, but back a few years ago, when I was involved in benchmarking high performance systems for purchase here, we found this to often be the case. Some systems just screamed on certain very parallel tasks, but practically came to a halt when a mix of tasks were run or even when trying to edit a script while things were running. Others were slightly less hot on the highly specialized tasks, but did well - much better - on the mix. We chose the system that handled the mix - which ran a BSD UNIX by the way, although a proprietary version as did most back then. Anyway, so, even though I haven't compared FreeBSD and Linux, I am not surprised to hear someone say there is this sort of difference. It is possible. Someone might investigate further and put out some verifiable numbers. jerry that's why i don't like benchmarks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:54:48AM -0500, Dan wrote: Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 16:51:16 +0100: Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in for benchmarks doing same thing over and over, or same thing in parallel linux can even be better. but try running many different tasks in parallel under linux. FreeBSD flies, while linux chokes. Can you point out some places on the web that confirm this? I can't point this out between Linux and FreeBSD, but back a few years ago, when I was involved in benchmarking high performance systems for purchase here, we found this to often be the case. Some systems just screamed on certain very parallel tasks, but practically came to a halt when a mix of tasks were run or even when trying to edit a script while things were running. Others were slightly less hot on the highly specialized tasks, but did well - much better - on the mix. We chose the system that handled the mix - which ran a BSD UNIX by the way, although a proprietary version as did most back then. Anyway, so, even though I haven't compared FreeBSD and Linux, I am not surprised to hear someone say there is this sort of difference. It is possible. Someone might investigate further and put out some verifiable numbers. jerry I don't have verifiable numbers; but I can speak from personal experience. I do complex financial/clinical data analysis for hospitals. I was using MS Access as a front-end. On the server end, I started with Linux and PostgreSQL. I moved from Linux to FreeBSD because during my more complicated series of queries, the Linux system would slow to a crawl. Sometimes, the PostgreSQL server would die. This never happened with FreeBSD. I even added Samba services and a web forum for the department. From 2000 to 2006, the only unplanned downtime experienced with my PostgreSQL/FreeBSD combo was due to 2 separate, prolonged power outages. When power was restored, the hardware and database servers came back online. Sadly, I no longer work there; and no longer have control over database assets. I read once that: The difference between the lab and the real world is that, in the lab, there is no difference. I wish I had noted the source. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Guys, stephen jackson wrote: I have read briefly on FreeBSD and it seems to be the winner on speed and stability versus Linux and of course MS Windows. [ ... ] Can we play cool with each other? If someone likes/has to use Gnu/Linux over FreeBSD or for that matter any other operating system, maybe its their choice; If someone finds FreeBSD runs well compared to Gnu/Linux, could they just point to the right benchmark on the web or post their personal benchmark here and be done with it? :) My point being that we could all be doing something really productive right now instead of discussing about all these. Don't you guys think so? Relax fellas. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Jerry McAllister([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 11:49:47 -0500: I can't point this out between Linux and FreeBSD, but back a few years ago, when I was involved in benchmarking high performance Oh well, that was a few years ago... Even So, a few years ago Felix von Leitner did webserving benchmarks for both. Linux won, but FreeBSD was very close behind. http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD Media Center
-Original Message- From: michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November-18-08 11:30 AM To: Gary Hartl Subject: Re: FreeBSD Media Center Gary Hartl wrote: Hi all; I have an old laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500), P3 550mhz, 256mb ram 20 gig hdd. I am wondering what the validity of putting FBSD on it running VLC or something like that feeding to my tv. Anyone with any feedback on this. Or is there a FBSD Media Center project out either in alpha or beta? Thanks Gary It will run. I'd put a bit more ram in, especially if the video card is lacking. I assume it has svideo out? or are you feeding with vga out? Yeah i'm going to be bumping it to 512mb which is the laptop max, I will be running vga out coupling to dvi on the tv. With a y audio cable from the sound card. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] printing question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:49:44AM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux printing database yet (http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi). Question: Since Mac OS X uses CUPS, if I share the printer on the Mac, will I need to worry about FreeBSD compatibility of the printer? I only need printing functions (not scan, etc) for the FreeBSD computer. I'm not sure that apple uses a non-modified CUPS. It is conceivable that they have incorporated extra (not open) drivers that aren't in the standard distribution. If you want to be safe, buy a printer that understands PostScript. That will work on FreeBSD (and all other UNIX variants). Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpoc4JVsOyd7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:51:07PM +0100, Mel wrote: Not anymore. They were when it was still IBM. Some in-depth discussion here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2008-July/010831.html Well, that's disappointing. My current laptop is a Thinkpad R52, from just after the sale to Lenovo but while production was still going on in IBM facilities here in the States. It's a great piece of equipment and, aside from the fact that I made the mistake of getting the model with an ATI graphics adapter rather than an Intel adapter, it has perfectly suited my needs. I've been a long-time fan of Thinkpads, and I haven't found another laptop I like nearly as much. Even the feel of the keyboard is better than that of any other line of laptops I've encountered. I wondered if there might be dropping production value issues when the PC division of IBM was sold off to Lenovo. I'm pretty disappointed to discover that was probably the case. Another R52 purchased for my significant other, a year after acquiring this laptop, has seemed to be exactly as good as this one, with one exception: while the keyboard feel is still better than that of any non-Thinkpad I've ever encountered, it feels just slightly more flimsy and cheap than this Thinkpad's keyboard. I'm pretty sure that second R52 was manufactured in a Lenovo facility that was *not* inherited from IBM, and I wonder if that might be why the keyboard has that different feel. And of course, there's: http://www.ixsystems.com/products/bsd-laptop.html I just spoke to a representative from iXsystems about the Invincibook. It sound very promising. My only complaint so far (having not had a chance to check out how the keyboard feels, how heavy it is, how hot it gets during operation, and so on) is that it's only planned to provide a touchpad as an integrated pointing device. One of the surprising benefits of Thinkpads over the years has been the trackpoint, in part because I don't have to break contact between my thumbs and the spacebar when using the pointing device (I'm a Vim user), and in part because with touchpads the heels of my hands occasionally brush across the thing causing interesting problems with mouse pointer behavior while I'm typing. I'm also not too keen on the relative lack of mouse cursor precision with a touchpad. If it's all it promises to be, though, the Invincibook will probably be worth the sacrifice of the trackpoint, especially considering the apparent drop in production quality for Thinkpads. In the conversation with the iXsystems representative, by the way, I was told that the major holdup at the moment for Invincibooks going into production is ACPI support -- of course. I'm not terribly surprised, since ACPI seems to *always* be the bugbear of laptop support. I'm pretty keen on the idea of finally having a laptop that can suspend to RAM and, even more importantly for my purposes, to disk. I'm willing to wait until they get that part right, because hibernation is kind of a killer feature for me -- or would be, if someone would finally get it right. I suppose one could say that it works just fine on my Thinkpad, with the caveat that it fails to come back from suspension to either RAM or disk, but that kinda defeats the purpose. Anyway . . . I started out with my two cents on the matter, and ended up rambling about a bunch of tangential nonsense. I think that means it's time to close up this email. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] print substr('Just another Perl hacker', 0, -2); pgpYw9erjm52s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: smbfs 2 GB file size limit
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:23 AM 11/18/2008, David Horn wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have FreeBSD 7.0 Release and if I mount_smbfs a network NTFS share I have a 2 GB size limit on files. I checked the handbook and list archives but have not found a solution. I just ran a quick test, and was not able to reproduce this issue with the mount_smbfs from FreeBSD 7.0. I tried against a Windows 2003 Server SP2, Windows XP SP3, and Samba 3.0 {on FreeBSD 7} with a 3.5GB file. Was your issue with reading from or writing to a SMB share ? It was writing to a smb share. What is the server software and OS version ? (if Microsoft Windows, please include Service Pack number as well, as it might make a difference) Windows 2003 server 32bit. How much disk space is left on your server volume ? Over a terabyte free Are there disk quotas enabled on the server ? None What error message are you getting from your FreeBSD client (if any) ? No error message, it just stopped writing at 1 Gb. I was doing this using scp. Whoa, hopefully you just made a few typos here, or we are going down the wrong path of investigation. Did you really mean to say scp or cp ? scp(1) - secure copy (remote file copy program) cp(1)- copy files If you really meant scp, then the problem is not mount_smbfs, but instead likely a buggy scp client or server (which does not use smb for transport, but ssh) What is the exact byte count that your write stops at ? You originally stated 2GB, then 1GB. Can you check the smb server logs and see if you are getting any error messages there ? Well I'm just mounting the volume to FreeBSD from the Windows server so not sure I'll find much in the logs besides the system log, but I will look. You may want to get a Wireshark trace and see if you can capture the SMB error message/error code. I have heard of people running into similar problems when running against older server software (NT 4.0/old samba) when the SMB session did not negotiate large file/large write support (a function of the SMB server capabilities session negotiation) I saw posts to that effect and that you needed samba 3.x to support large files sizes, and the lfs option. But the mount_smbfs doesn't offer any large file option. Only bother with this next bit if you are morbidly curious as to how things work rather than just want to solve your problem, as it gets into the nitty gritty details of smb: mount_smbfs will allow for lfs (CAP_LARGE_FILE) automatically by specifying it's dialect capabilities in the smb negotiation. If you umount your smb share, then start a tcpdump you can capture the smb negotiation Capabilities bitmask to see if CAP_LARGE_FILE is being negotiated - the server specifies this capability. The client just sends the dialects of smb supported.For example: tcpdump -vvv -s 1500 -i em0 host server.example.com | grep Capabilities { where em0 is the network interface in use on FreeBSD and server.example.com is the hostname/ip address of your smb server } Then do a mount of the smb share (while tcpdump is running) and you should capture the Capabilities negotiated. For example: Capabilities=0x1F3FD If you decode the bitmask by using this reference : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa302230.aspx {hint: only look at the last four bytes of the Capabilities line (e.g. F3FD in my example)} Or if you have kernel source installed, you can look in /usr/src/sys/netsmb/smb.h for the details. - Capabilities: 0x0001F3FD RawMode:(...1) Supports SMB_COM_READ_RAW and SMB_COM_WRITE_RAW (CAP_RAW_MODE) MpxMode:(..0.) No Support for SMB_COM_READ_MPX or SMB_COM_WRITE_MPX (CAP_MPX_MODE) Unicode:(.1..) Supports Unicode Strings (CAP_UNICODE) LargeFiles: (1...) Supports large files with 64-bit offsets (CAP_LARGE_FILES) NTSMBs: (...1) Supports SMB NTLM 0.12 dialect commands (implies CAP_NT_FIND) (CAP_NT_SMBS) RPCRemoteAPIs: (..1.) Supports remote API requests using RPC over named pipe connections (CAP_RPC_REMOTE_APIS) NTStatus: (.1..) Can respond with 32-bit NT status codes in Status (CAP_NT_STATUS) LevelIIOplocks: (1...) Supports Level II oplocks ( CAP_LEVEL_II_OPLOCKS) LockAndRead:(...1) Supports SMB_COM_LOCK_AND_READ and SMB_COM_WRITE_AND_UNLOCK (CAP_LOCK_AND_READ) NtFind: (..1.) Supports Windows NT information level requests (SMB_QUERY_?, SMB_SET_?) (CAP_NT_FIND) Reserved_bits10_11:
porting jdownloader to freebsd
Hi, does anyone port Jdownloader (java app) to freebsd yet?? thanks!! TFC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:23:24PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have read briefly on FreeBSD and it seems to be the winner on speed and stability versus Linux and of course MS Windows. versus linux - of course, versus windows - it's different OS, we should define how do you compare. for example running windows apps under FreeBSD with wine will probably be slower than under windows. This is not as constant a truism as one might think. I haven't run much software in Wine, but what I have has performed comparably with how it did on MS Windows, for the most part. The one case where I could even detect a difference in performance was with World of Warcraft -- and it performed much better under Wine than on MS Windows, even on the same machine. Anyway, how about you plus Google cash, and others (?), putting a simple easy partition of MS hard disks and FreeBSD install with a nice GUI. And getting Google to distribute it to the World. My question is, how much once again i repeat - FreeBSD is not windows replacement. it's unix. All nice GUI for unices turned to be bad idea, every windows user will say it's poor compared to windows. and they are right. Poppycock. There are several desktop environments for Unix-like systems that compare well with MS Windows and Apple MacOS X for matters of glitz and glamour, even giving a far more confection-laden user friendly appeal overall than the proprietary competition, as I've pointed out before: http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=335 In fact, I seem to recall responding to *you* in particular about this subject on this mailing list before: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-June/176889.html it will be very nice if someone/some company produce true windows compatible OS, running windows programs, windows installers, but being much better and faster. Why the hell would I want windows installers? The Microsoft model of software installation is antiquated, inefficient, restrictive, and difficult to manage. While I'm at it, I'd miss more of the software available on FreeBSD if I switched to MS Windows than I do of MS Windows software when I'm on FreeBSD. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Niccolo Machiavelli: It is a common failing of man not to take account of tempests during fair weather. pgpdeaex5yKNp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
versus linux - of course, versus windows - it's different OS, we should define how do you compare. for example running windows apps under FreeBSD with wine will probably be slower than under windows. This is not as constant a truism as one might think. I haven't run much software in Wine, but what I have has performed comparably with how it did on MS Windows, for the most part. The one case where I could even very possible. i'm even sure it could work better when good filesystem I/O and VM performance is required. but it may work slower in many cases. i used wine to run demoscene prods - usually it works slower than in windows. compatible OS, running windows programs, windows installers, but being much better and faster. Why the hell would I want windows installers? The Microsoft model of to be able to just put say - M$ Office or Corel Draw or whatever CD , click install and get installed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Can you point out some places on the web that confirm this? no. for me it's important that i confirmed this. that's why i'm far away from using linux anywhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Time to forget this.It is a semantic and religious battle playing hair splitting games with words.It is not a MS clone but it is an MS replacement. If you overwrite your MS-Win with FreeBSD, it completely replaces it. and you get something completely different. FORTUNATELY different. but - if millions of now-windows users starts switching to FreeBSD, it will quickly become more and more similar. as linux did. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] printing question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:51:47PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:49:44AM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux printing database yet (http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi). Question: Since Mac OS X uses CUPS, if I share the printer on the Mac, will I need to worry about FreeBSD compatibility of the printer? I only need printing functions (not scan, etc) for the FreeBSD computer. I'm not sure that apple uses a non-modified CUPS. It is conceivable that they have incorporated extra (not open) drivers that aren't in the standard distribution. MacOS X will share a printer with Windows. I don't know how the driver thing is negotiated. The Mac may happily accept Postscript and then do whatever is needed to print. If you want to be safe, buy a printer that understands PostScript. That will work on FreeBSD (and all other UNIX variants). Sounds like the OP is looking for color. If BW is enough my favorite inexpensive printer is the Brother HL-5250DN. Speaks Postscript-clone, PCL-5 and PCL-6. Direct network connection so each computer speaks directly to the printer. Duplex. About 25 ppm. Third party toner reloads cost about $25 for 5,000 pages. The printer sells for $150 to $250 depending on sales and whether you can find a refurbished unit. Years ago I had access to an HP 5000N that would print photo quality matte (not glossy) BW on plain paper. Not quite sure what it is about the Brother (or printer drivers because this was pre-MacOS X) but I enjoyed wonderful cheap BW prints off the HP but the Brother isn't nearly as good. Text and line graphics are excellent. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:18:13PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement. It did a quite admirable job of replacing MS Windows for me. I don't know why you're so down on it. as linux tries for many years to be windows replacement - it's both low end unix and low end windows replacement, windows for poor. Replacing MS Windows is not the same as becoming MS Windows. Ubuntu has been pursuing the specter of MS Windows feature parity for a while, and as a result has become something I have no interest in touching. Meanwhile, PC-BSD has been pursuing the goal of *replacing* MS Windows, which is not at all the same thing as *becoming* MS Windows, and it seems to be doing a great job of that without adopting MS Windows' flaws. The only limitation on the quality of PC-BSD, in my experience, seems to be KDE, but I've long since given up caring about the default GUI facade on open source OSes, since they *all* use KDE or GNOME (except a rare few that use XFCE by default, when they want something light). KDE and GNOME (and even XFCE) are frighteningly bloated user environments that seem lightweight only in comparison with the even more awfully huge and lumbering GUIs of MS Windows and Apple MacOS X -- so I just take it as a given that every OS in the world uses something bloated and cumbersome for its GUI, and resolve to either not install the GUI (if that's an option) or uninstall the GUI after the system is installed, then install something different in its place. In other words, there's basically no escaping the problems inherent in something like KDE, GNOME, or even XFCE if you go with default GUI setup -- but aside from that, PC-BSD is doing an excellent job of becoming the definitive MS Windows replacement OS without adopting MS Windows problems. . . . and, as I said, FreeBSD is a great MS Windows replacement for me. I don't miss MS Windows *at all* when I'm using FreeBSD on my laptop every single day. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people have stopped banging their heads against? pgpkRnEyFGQ7r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
are happy to find that to be true.Give them a hand rather than a kick in the face. Amen to that! This is something I am also asking for. Wojciech you often help others here. Let's keep it this way. Please?! i will do exactly what i'm doing now. no more no less. helping those who ask questions that make sense, and i know the answer (or think i know). And fixing bad statements and bad ideas. like the idea of replacing windows with unix without first learning unix from basics. And the idea that having as much FreeBSD users as possible is a good thing. it is not. unless FreeBSD will change to commercial product that will be sold, then yes - get as much users as possible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
so why it have a much smaller market share? Because MS wrote restrictive contracts with companies trying to sell PCs saying that if they wanted to put MS on any of their Apple produces it's own computers. Actually a branded PCs now. what a problem? the problem is that Apple works the same way as Commodore 20-15 years ago. Trying to get prices as high as possible, instead of looking in future. Exactly what apple do now - selling ordinary PC (just more stylish cases) 2-3 times more expensive. if Apple computers would be similarly prices or slightly higher, then they could really compete. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:10:48AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Manfred Usselmann wrote: I have a lot of reasons for loathing X. A *lot*. I've spent a lot of time (and even money; anyone remember AccelX back in the 90s? Yep, I bought it) trying to adapt over the years, and I cannot. I'm not going to provide details because it'll just induce more parking lot burn-outs and that's not what I want. I loathe Firefox. I find it incredibly annoying, bloated, cumbersome, and otherwise sucky. Unfortunately, the disadvantages of every other Web browser I've encountered are *worse* (though Chromium shows promise, if it ever gets ported to BSD Unix systems), so I keep using Firefox as my primary browser. The same applies to the X Window System. It sucks. It is laden with various and sundry big problems; annoyances and poor design decisions litter the X Window System. The drawbacks of Luna, Aqua, and Aero are all even worse than those of the X Window System, though, so I still with X. Comparatively: I have co-workers who love X and KDE, and hate Windows -- and I have co-workers who absolutely love OS X's GUI, and hate X and Windows. (In fact, the few OS X users I know get quite irate when they find some OS X program actually relies on X11). I'd be annoyed by that, too. Software that is ported to other systems should not drag along baggage like assumed reliance on other software particular to the source system. I get similarly irate at discovering I've discovered an application that depends on a metric crapload of KDE or GNOME libraries. I don't think getting irate over software relying on software that you otherwise don't have on your system, and that does not provide functionality actually important to the operation of the software you actually want, is really much of an indicator of how individualized GUI taste can be. The only time I curse Windows is when CMD.EXE or command-line utilities come into play. Anyone who's used *IX will know what I mean by this. PowerShell/Monad is a joke, Cygwin is an atrocity, 4NT/4DOS is too quirky, and *IX application ports often have too many bugs (either not handling NTFS filenames correctly (resorting to 8.3 format), or having filesize limitations due to the porter doing it wrong; 2GB limits are found in common programs including Win32 wget). I'm curious -- what exactly do you dislike about PowerShell? This is the first time I've really heard such a complaint about it. Every operating system/GUI/environment has its share of quirks. It just depends on which ones you can tolerate. I can tolerate some of Windows' quirks (sans focus stealing, although I'm told KDE applicationg are starting down this road too), but cannot with X or OS X. I suppose it's because I've a mental stigma; I associate *IX and UNIX with servers, and I likely always will. *IX/UNIX on the desktop is a crazy idea to me. This is in line with my experience of people who prefer the MS Windows interface over that of the X Window System -- their preference is usually dominated by matters of familiarity. I'm kind of the opposite type of person in that regard: I regularly try something new, because I'm always looking for a better way to do things. That's all I have to say on the matter; I won't reply here on out. That's a bummer. I'd like to know your thoughts on some of my above commentary -- particularly on the subject of PowerShell. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with top-posting? pgpVkKp2rUFlu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:18:13PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: By constantly repeating that UNIX is no Windows replacement you are and i will repeat it because it's true. it's every other unix replacement. It did a quite admirable job of replacing MS Windows for me. I don't know why you're so down on it. as linux tries for many years to be windows replacement - it's both low end unix and low end windows replacement, windows for poor. VERY LARGE AND NASTY SNIP . . . and, as I said, FreeBSD is a great MS Windows replacement for me. I don't miss MS Windows *at all* when I'm using FreeBSD on my laptop every single day. (Responding to random post) Could we please *close* this discussion now? This is simply a waste of the list resources, people will always have ideas on why an OS is better or worse than another. If the original poster wanted to know something about all this, he would have probably commented by now. Has it come to anyone's mind that the original post was probably a simple act of trolling? (and someone is now amused by all this?) In the end, when someone is presented with the facts and can have a hands on experience with a system (and it won't cost him a dime to do so), he can decide whether he wants to use it, whether it can replace his current system and whether he is willing to climb the steep learning curve. Let's give people choice, we don't need to force this or any other OS down anyone's throat. Let's just help whoever comes in here - Some will appreciate FreeBSD *and* the community and will stay. And it will be there choice. Just my 2c Over and out ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:42:26AM -0500, Dan wrote: Wojciech Puchar([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.18 12:23:24 +0100: FreeBSD is very good in hardware support now, with most of drivers being very stable and high performance. for now there is no such thing, except ReactOS which is in early alpha state. Have you used, erm... Linux? Both Linux and FreeBSD run pretty much at hardware level. You benchmark either, you'll get very close results in speed and scalability. Both are well optimized. Unix is for servers, Windoze/OSX is for clients. They're much better clients than Unix. Cut and paste still doesn't work well in Unix GUIs. Think about that. Uh . . . what? I'll try pasting something: Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Yep, works great. In fact, I *love* that middle-click paste thing, and on the rare occasion that I find myself sitting down in front of an MS Windows machine, I find myself quickly lamenting the existence of middle-click pasting, and start wondering why MS Windows is such a primitive excuse for a desktop operating system. I don't know where you get the idea that MS Windows is so good at being a client and FreeBSD is so bad at it. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Mike Maples, as quoted by James Gleick: My job is to get a fair share of the software applications market, and to me that's 100 percent. pgpECzQ3hgqPF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:13:40AM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: I read once that: The difference between the lab and the real world is that, in the lab, there is no difference. I wish I had noted the source. The way I'd heard that sentiment was slightly different: In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they aren't. . . . or something to that effect. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Larry Wall: A script is what you give the actors. A program is what you give the audience. pgpqWQ189sBSL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
Chad Perrin writes: I read once that: The difference between the lab and the real world is that, in the lab, there is no difference. I wish I had noted the source. The way I'd heard that sentiment was slightly different: In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they aren't. . . . or something to that effect. The difference between theory and practice, in theory, is much smaller than the difference between theory and practice, in practice. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] printing question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:49:44AM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux printing database yet (http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi). Question: Since Mac OS X uses CUPS, if I share the printer on the Mac, will I need to worry about FreeBSD compatibility of the printer? I only need printing functions (not scan, etc) for the FreeBSD computer. Your best bet for printer compatibility is to ensure that it's available as a network device rather than having to connect to it directly, and that it's a Postscript printer. If you want to get a printer and connect it directly to your Mac, and you're sure it'll work with your Mac, then you should be able to share it with the rest of the network without problems -- as long as it's a Postscript printer. If it isn't, you may have to do some digging to determine whether other computers on the network will be able to use the shared printer at all, including FreeBSD systems. Alas, I know basically nothing about the Epson Artisan 800. I'm happy with my HP laser printer connected directly to the network. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Albert Camus: An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself. pgpeTq55kbEGs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] printing question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your best bet for printer compatibility is to ensure that it's available as a network device rather than having to connect to it directly, and that it's a Postscript printer. If you want to get a printer and connect it directly to your Mac, and you're sure it'll work with your Mac, then you should be able to share it with the rest of the network without problems -- as long as it's a Postscript printer. If it isn't, you may have to do some digging to determine whether other computers on the network will be able to use the shared printer at all, including FreeBSD systems. Alas, I know basically nothing about the Epson Artisan 800. I'm happy with my HP laser printer connected directly to the network. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Albert Camus: An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself. Thanks to all for the advice. So the bottom line is: Get a postscript printer. They're rather expensive. It may be worth the inconvenience of sharing drive space and printing from the Mac via VNC window. ;-) Now, if I had money to waste.. I just discovered that those really cool, wide format printers used at many photo printing shops are postscript printers Imagine the font size you could use on a 20x30 memo. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:37:21PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: The same applies to the X Window System. It sucks. It is laden with various and sundry big problems; annoyances and poor design decisions litter the X Window System. The drawbacks of Luna, Aqua, and Aero are all even worse than those of the X Window System, though, so I still with X. This might be relevant to that, in fact: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=650 -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] O'Rourke's Circumcision Precept: You can take 10 percent off the top of anything. pgpnChs6HFsF2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:26:36PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: are happy to find that to be true.Give them a hand rather than a kick in the face. Amen to that! This is something I am also asking for. Wojciech you often help others here. Let's keep it this way. Please?! i will do exactly what i'm doing now. no more no less. helping those who ask questions that make sense, and i know the answer (or think i know). And fixing bad statements and bad ideas. like the idea of replacing windows with unix without first learning unix from basics. And the idea that having as much FreeBSD users as possible is a good thing. it is not. I don't think that making having as many FreeBSD users as possible a primary goal is a good idea, to be sure. On the other hand, if we do so only within the constraints of current design philosophy and an attempt to focus more on quality than quantity, having more users *is* a good thing for a number of reasons -- in large part because of the benefits that can be gained from a stronger user base. What we should *not* do is take such a hostile attitude toward potential new users that the user base of FreeBSD ultimately dwindles due to the attrition of time. That seems to be your approach, and I find it quite counterproductive, especially when you couple it with weirdly anti-Unix statements like your continuing insistence that no Unix system can effectively replace MS Windows. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anne McClintock, University of Wisconsin: The decisions that really matter are made outside the democratic process. pgpykmJ1fIoFI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:22:56PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Time to forget this.It is a semantic and religious battle playing hair splitting games with words.It is not a MS clone but it is an MS replacement. If you overwrite your MS-Win with FreeBSD, it completely replaces it. and you get something completely different. FORTUNATELY different. That doesn't change the fact that it *replaced* MS Windows. but - if millions of now-windows users starts switching to FreeBSD, it will quickly become more and more similar. as linux did. Correlation does not imply causation -- just as repeating something many times doesn't make it true. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] O'Rourke's Circumcision Precept: You can take 10 percent off the top of anything. pgp8FFoSN189G.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [OT] printing question
On Behalf Of Andrew Gould Time to buy a new printer. I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need occasionally arises. Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X. The Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux I can't help with the setup issues, as I don't use printers from those systems. However, I do have a recommendation for you. I recently purchased a new HP CP1518ni Color Laser at Sam's Club for less than US$300. It has the Jet Direct network interface, includes Postscript and has worked flawlessly on my home network. HP provides Linux drivers in their hpiplib package. Once it is on the network, setup can be completed from a browser. The four toner cartridges run about US$70 each at Staples, but will print around 2200 pages, which is many times the number of pages for the equivalent cost in ink cartridges. We expect the overall cost to be significantly less than a DeskJet with all of the refills it would eat. I suspect we will have covered the difference in the printer prices before we burn through the 700 pages the original cartridges should provide. Plus the pages don't smear when we handle them with damp fingers. HTH, Bob McConnell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] printing question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:00:03PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: So the bottom line is: Get a postscript printer. They're rather expensive. It may be worth the inconvenience of sharing drive space and printing from the Mac via VNC window. ;-) The reason Postscript printers tend to be expensive is that they tend to be high quality. Only cheap, crappy desktop printers of the sort that people buy for their home MS Windows systems, then replace when they run out of ink because replacement ink cartridges cost more than half the cost of a brand new printer, tend to be incapable of using Postscript. There are exceptions, of course, in the form of very expensive, highly specialized printers that are unsuitable to home or even most office use and don't understand Postscript. . . . but generally speaking, if it doesn't speak Postscript, it's probably a heap of junk anyway. That's my experience, at least. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Naguib Mahfouz: You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. pgpHkkkMQ4gGE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] printing question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:00:03PM -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your best bet for printer compatibility is to ensure that it's available as a network device rather than having to connect to it directly, and that it's a Postscript printer. If you want to get a printer and connect it directly to your Mac, and you're sure it'll work with your Mac, then you should be able to share it with the rest of the network without problems -- as long as it's a Postscript printer. If it isn't, you may have to do some digging to determine whether other computers on the network will be able to use the shared printer at all, including FreeBSD systems. Alas, I know basically nothing about the Epson Artisan 800. I'm happy with my HP laser printer connected directly to the network. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Albert Camus: An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself. Thanks to all for the advice. So the bottom line is: Get a postscript printer. They're rather expensive. It may be worth the inconvenience of sharing drive space and printing from the Mac via VNC window. ;-) Now, if I had money to waste.. I just discovered that those really cool, wide format printers used at many photo printing shops are postscript printers Those are hit-or-miss as well. Our HP plotter at work, for example: when printing actual images (JPEG, GIF, etc.), you have to configure the printer driver to think that the printer is the exact size/resolution of the image you want to print, otherwise it prints half the image, then in mid-line starts looping back to the top of the image, and loses all concept of paper size. Awesome. Imagine the font size you could use on a 20x30 memo. I can tell you that my Brother MFC-5860CN printer, despite being a AIO network printer, does not work with FreeBSD -- even lpd does not work with it. The behaviour is repeatable: sending data to either the LPD port or the JetDirect emulation port results in the printer showing Receiving data (or something like that) on the LCD, then the printer just locks up. Supposedly the network data stream has to be encoded in some way. Brother offers numerous Linux packages, and Linux binaries, which take care of this for you, but nothing for FreeBSD. In fact, their FAQ/KB even answers Do you support FreeBSD? with something that resembles No, we do not, and we will not, go away. You can find tons of web pages on this printer, and other Brother printers; tons of Linux success stories, otherwise nothing but tears. This printer does work very well in Windows, but not so well with OS X (unless its hooked up to the USB port, where supposedly it works fine). I have no interest in CUPS (bloated and overcomplex), and no interest in Linux emulation (lolcat style: DO NOT WANT), so I stick with printing under Windows. Prior to the Brother, I had an HP DeskJet AIO, and I literally threw it in the trash due to Windows drivers bloat galore. There's a famous problem with their drivers where every time you print, it launches an EXE, but then never kills the EXE off. Print 10 times, you've got 10 EXEs lingering around in memory. Imagine this in a corp environment where there's a Windows print server involved -- totally unacceptable. I'm afraid to sell/dispose of my Brother and get an HP LaserJet because of their drivers. The point I'm trying to make: do not think that just because a printer has an Ethernet port that it will work with FreeBSD. The other part of the problem is that FreeBSD's USB stack isn't so great. I assume that just because a USB printer attaches as ulpt(4) doesn't mean it'll print properly (e.g. needs an I/O driver of some kind), but I could be wrong. I don't know what your budget is, but US$300-400 for an AIO printer that works with your setup, and in a multi-OS environment, is well worth it. If folks out there are using network or USB printers with FreeBSD RELENG_7 (without Linux emulation; CUPS is acceptable for others, just not me :-) )), compiling a list of compatible hardware would be beneficial. It seems that most HP LaserJet printers with network I/O work well, assuming the model supports some form of PostScript. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] printing question
Andrew Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the bottom line is: Get a postscript printer. They're rather expensive. It may be worth the inconvenience of sharing drive space and printing from the Mac via VNC window. ;-) It's not clear to me that anyone posting here had tried printing to a printer on a recent Mac. I haven't, even though I've got one in my house. I know that the Mac's printer shows up more or less automagically on the FreeBSD (CUPS) machines on the LAN, but I don't think I've tried actually printing to it. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSD-licensed text utility updates
I've been trying to keep generally aware of where things are with the attempts to port and develop BSD-licensed text processing utilities for FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/#p-bsdtexttools Apparently, the Google Summer of Code project that tackled the problem met with some success, notably in the area of grep porting and development, as noted on this year's GSOC notifications page: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/summerofcode-2008.html That page contains the following note: If we can accept the regex differencies in grep, it is ready to enter SVN after some thorough testing. Where can I find discussion, or at least updates, on the status of projects like this? Considering its completeness, and the fact that it has been declared ready for inclusion in the base system, I think this is a topic that might deserve some attention, and it certainly piques my interest. I'm similarly interested in other matters such as the license auditing infrastructure project (also mentioned on the GSOC page). If there's a mailing list appropriate to this sort of thing, whether for discussion, development, or just progress announcements, I haven't been able to find it. -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Arthur C. Clarke: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. pgp0QW2TxNOVW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re:FreeBSD, OMSA Live CD and DSET tools for Dell 2950 Server?
Any help??? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there, To diagnose and solve a Disk Encluser issue, I am advised to run two tools 1. Run OMSA live CD on the Server? Since, OMSA Live CD is linux based, I am just wondering if it will work or not? 2. Run Dell's DSET Tool, which is also for Linux systems And seeking your comments in this regards: *Server Configuration with FreeBSD 7.0* ** *2 x PE2950 III Quad Core Xeon E5450 3.0GHz,2x6MB,1333FSB *Riser with PCI Express Support (2x PCIe x8 slots; 1x PCIe x4 slot) PE2950 English rack power cord PE2950 Bezel Assembly *16GB (8x2GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz FBD 6 x 450GB SAS 15k 3.5 HD Hot Plug* PE2950 III - Chassis 3.5HDD x6 Backplane *PERC 6/i, Integrated Controller Card x6 backplane *CD/DVD Drive Cable 8X DVD-ROM Drive IDE PE2950 III Redundant Power Supply No Power Cord Rack Power Distribution Unit Power Cord TCP/IP Offload Engine 2P Broadcom TCP/IP Offload Engine functionality (TOE) Not Enabled Drac 5 Card *PE2950 III C5 MSS R10 Add-in PERC 5/i / 6/i * -- Thanks! BR / vj -- Thanks! BR / vj ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tcpdump(1) filter by date
Hello, I have a kind big tcpdump file, which has data from the last week. I want to dump information based on date. Can I do it without generating a full output and later parse the headers? Say, I want to filter by date in the expression filter and not with tcpdump -r dumpfile | awk '{some-black-magic-here}' Because sometimes I want o search the full packet content (-vvv, -XX, -T, ...) by date, and as its a huge file, dumpling everthing and parsing it later on run-time wound consume too much memory (its a couple of GBs file). Thank you all, but I could not find a date keyword for filtering expression. However, counting by packets sequence would also fit my needs because the need is to, say, analyse until a certain point and later continue analysing from where I stopped, so, lets say tcpdump -r dumpfile -c 1 Would allow me to read the first 1 packets from the dumpfile. Later I would need to keep doing my job from packet 10001 to 2. The date question is because I can check the precise epoch timestamp of the last packet I have read and later, ask tcpdump to print -c count number of packets starting from the epoch-formatted date I have paused my work later. Sometimes I will also need this for pflog files, so, I would appreciate any tips to do this with tcpdump custom files or pflog generated files if there is anything would fit for one situation but not for another. Thank you all in advance. -- === Eduardo Meyer pessoal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Media Center
On Tue 2008-11-18 11:21:02 UTC-0500, Gary Hartl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have an old laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500), P3 550mhz, 256mb ram 20 gig hdd. I am wondering what the validity of putting FBSD on it running VLC or something like that feeding to my tv. 550 MHz will be a bit slow for playing DivX/XviD movies, especially if they're high definition (beyond 640x480 approx). Presumably Windows is installed on it at the moment, so you can give the Windows version of VLC a test run. The RAM HDD specs are fine. Provided the laptop's integrated video and networking is supported, you should be good to go. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: realtime network replication
On Nov 17, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Ansar Mohammed wrote: Ok, I have /home on one server, I need to REPLICATE /home to another server in realtime. Kinda like a mirror, but over a network. I don't want to use rsync because its not realtime. Yeah, your problem description is clear enough. If you want true redundancy and the data available from both machines, you're talking about more of a clustered filesystem like Veritas CFS or maybe Andrew FS / DFS from Transarc. However, you might also find something like /usr/ports/net/unison a reasonable alternative: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kqemu runs 2x faster on i386 than amd64!?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Guess I should've mentioned the target is 32-bit win2k... On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not comparing apples-to-apples exactly, but both my disks are in the same system, both are running 7-stable from within the last few months, so it's pretty close. Also, the i386 is a direct replacement of the amd64 to fix this and other problems, so the software settings set is pretty identical also... kqemu crawls when I boot amd64 (and I notice the processor is always over 50%), and it's reasonalbly usable on i386 (also, the processor is often in the 30% range, instead of 60%). Steve Hi! Are you sure kqemu is even used? (in the monitor do: info kqemu) Quoting ports/emulators/qemu/pkg-message: - also remember that on amd64 you need to run the amd64 (x86_64) system emulation if you want to use kqemu, i.e. run qemu-system-x86_64 instead of qemu (the latter only emulates a 32 bit system.) [...] Note however that this is no longer true with the qemu-devel port, so if you are using that also the 32 bit `qemu' can use kqemu. And finally, for anyone wanting to test out more recent qemu svn snapshots, you should check -emulation, I have just prepared another experimental qemu-devel port update: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-emulation/2008-November/005526.html HTH, Juergen PS: No I'm still not on -questions, so please Cc me if you want to make sure I see followups. (I was just testing out accessing it via gmane and looked for recent posts about qemu...) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Media Center
andrew clarke wrote: On Tue 2008-11-18 11:21:02 UTC-0500, Gary Hartl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have an old laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500), P3 550mhz, 256mb ram 20 gig hdd. I am wondering what the validity of putting FBSD on it running VLC or something like that feeding to my tv. 550 MHz will be a bit slow for playing DivX/XviD movies, especially if they're high definition (beyond 640x480 approx). Presumably Windows is installed on it at the moment, so you can give the Windows version of VLC a test run. The RAM HDD specs are fine. Provided the laptop's integrated video and networking is supported, you should be good to go. Actually, an AMD k6-2 450 will play over 720 resolution divx. mplayer with a proper cache setting and enough ram helps massively. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie question
Hi all; Quick newbie question. I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is fine There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never remembered and forgot that I never knew it. Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels. So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is there or what it is doing). I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively using FBSD but am looking to get back into it. Rc.d anyone? My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct? Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apology
Sorry group I just realized I've been sending HTML emails to the group Plain text now set. Stupid outlook Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is threr a database for freeBSD with??
I'm looking to write a simple program to extract stuff from Project Gutenberg's books (--of whivh there are tens ofthousands thanks to Michael HArt and his volunteers). There is no collection of metaphors in the public domain, and it wouldn't take that much coding if there were a database with word, (grammatical type), e.g. foot, n love, n run, v ugly, adj etc. It occured to me that I might take the CIDE/GCIDE database and somehow scrounge the world-list above from that. I don't think it is available on Linux. Dunno. Nutshell, it would be a major help to writers to have this kind of stuff online instead of a 17-pound book... . Thanks for ideas, as well as code snippets! gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD and hardware??
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:29:27PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: so why it have a much smaller market share? Because MS wrote restrictive contracts with companies trying to sell PCs saying that if they wanted to put MS on any of their Apple produces it's own computers. Actually a branded PCs now. what a problem? Not at all the same thing. Apple produces its own and puts an OS on it. If they tell an OEM vendor they cannot put anything else on it, then it begins to go in the bad direction. If they tell the OEM vendor that not only can they not put anything else on the hardware that the OEM build, but that they have to put their OS on EVERY piece of hardware that they make, then it is like MS.It isn't as if MS made computers and put their own stuff on every machine, which would be similar to the Kodak issue of years gone by. MS tried to force other hardware makers to only put MS on their (the other maker) machines and put it on every machine they sold.No manufacturer or OEM could sell a machine with MS unless they sold EVERY machine they made with MS. That is crooked business.But they got away with barely a slapped wrist. jerry the problem is that Apple works the same way as Commodore 20-15 years ago. Trying to get prices as high as possible, instead of looking in future. Exactly what apple do now - selling ordinary PC (just more stylish cases) 2-3 times more expensive. if Apple computers would be similarly prices or slightly higher, then they could really compete. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wifi Card for laptop
Le 18/11/2008 à 16:43:47+0100, Wojciech Puchar a écrit D-LINK DWL-G630 Trendnet TEW-421PC D-LINK DWA-645 RangeBooster N65 ... Linksys WPC54G Linksys WPC54GS Speedbooster Trendnet TEW-441PC ask about chipset they use and then look at FreeBSD site for hardware compatibility. FreeBSD supports a lot of wireless cards. sometimes even more works using driver converter (ndisgen) that converts windows XP drivers. But performance may (will) be lower. After some research on Internet (with other machine ;-) ) I finaly make the wifi card working. Using wpi driver. Or maybe you can help me to make my internet RJ45 card working ;-) what it is? FreeBSD supports most (but not all) network cards It's Broadcom 5756. I known it's very close to 57xx but...it's not working. Thanks for your help. Regards. -- Albert SHIH SIO batiment 15 Observatoire de Paris Meudon 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex Heure local/Local time: Mar 18 nov 2008 23:50:01 CET ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Media Center
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:21:02 -0500, Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all; I have an old laptop (Dell Inspiron 7500), P3 550mhz, 256mb ram 20 gig hdd. I am wondering what the validity of putting FBSD on it running VLC or something like that feeding to my tv. Anyone with any feedback on this. Yes, done it. AMD 550 MHz CPU, 128 MB RAM, 6 GB HDD (new 20 GB disk ready to start) with FreeBSD 5. Main utilities were xmms and mplayer, NB no K- or G-mplayer. Worked very well for serving music and videos (allthough not in DVD quality, no DVD drive). Or is there a FBSD Media Center project out either in alpha or beta? I don't know. But in order to utilize a low end machine for the purpose specified you need to taylor a lot. I don't think there's anything preconfigured yet... GUI setting here: WindowMaker, Midnight Commander, X Terminals and some utilities as shell scripts or in Tcl/Tk I wrote myself. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all; Quick newbie question. I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is fine There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never remembered and forgot that I never knew it. Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels. So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is there or what it is doing). I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively using FBSD but am looking to get back into it. Rc.d anyone? My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct? Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No FreeBSD uses rc.d it's where the rc.d actually came from. for ports it's /usr/local/etc/rc.d for system scripts it's /etc/rc.d ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wifi Card for laptop
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 09:55:35 am Albert Shih wrote: Hi all I would like to buy a PCMCIA card for my new laptop (because FreeBSD do not recognise my internal wifi AND RJ45 ethernet cardsh** windows say it's Broadcom netXtreme 57xx gigabit ). So I just want to known what 802.11G card I can buy without drivers problem. My local dealer have those card : [snip] Trendnet TEW-441PC I ordered this card from newegg not long ago. It's inexpensive and well-supported by the ath(4) driver (unlike the (slightly cheaper) other trendnet card you mentioned). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz
I installed FBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 version on an Intel Core2Duo box with 4 GB of RAM. The main purpose of this box is to run the Urchin web analysis software from Google. The Urchin installation docs (https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_and_Linux)) contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf. However FBSD 7.1 doesn't appear to have this sysctl. How can I do the equivalent of this in FBSD 7.1? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Urchin installation docs [...] contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf. However FBSD 7.1 doesn't appear to have this sysctl. How can I do the equivalent of this in FBSD 7.1? Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-) In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running X without a videocard
Hi all; More questions... I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64. There is no video card on these puppies. But I seem to recall that we ran solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that I'm wondering if it is possible to do the same with FBSD. Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz
Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Urchin installation docs [...] contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf. However FBSD 7.1 doesn't appear to have this sysctl. How can I do the equivalent of this in FBSD 7.1? Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-) In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check. Thanks for your reply. I guess I expected to be able to view it via sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot. Is there some way to view the current setting? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
preparing for an upgrade
With the release of FreeBSD 6.4 imminent, I'd like to prepare for an upgrade from FreeBSD 6.2 - 6.4. Please excuse my ignorance but in my mind here's what I plan to do when it's available: 1. install / run the upgrade script using CD-ROM media to a 6.4 GENERIC kernel, reboot 2. customize the kernel to my hardware (like I did in 6.2), reboot 3. portsnap fetch update (to get the latest ports tree for 6.4) 4. portupgrade -ai (to upgrade any outdated ports) Will this work? I'm a little confused about different versions of the ports tree. What I mean is, I keep updating my FreeBSD 6.2 ports tree and have never had any problems... it just works. I'm assuming the 6.4 ports tree is a little different and specific to 6.4? The port system is **so much better** than using ports on my OpenBSD systems! thanks, kelly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]