Re: Sendmail for Large Sites

2004-06-19 Thread Skylar Thompson
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:06:34PM -0400, Jason Stewart wrote:
> On 18/06/04 06:13 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> > 
> > There are other considerations such as the facts that all
> > incoming and outgoing messages are checked for malicious attachments.
> > ldap is used to drive the setting of customer mail delivery
> > preferences and even their user ID choice.
> > 
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> Sendmail and Postfix can do the virus scanning. You're going to need
> some serious firepower to scan all attachments for 25000 users.

It depends on how much email these users are generating. I'm an admin for a
small CS department at a liberal arts college. We support around 250 users
(math, physics, CS, alums, and professors). On a normal day, we process
between 1000 and 3000 messages. Our email server is a Dell Poweredge 2650
with dual 2.8GHz processors and 1GB of RAM. We run Sendmail with
MailScanner, which in turn invokes its own testing rubrics and disarming
routines along with SpamAssassin and ClamAV. Benchmarking this system
indicated that we could process over 1,000,000 messages a day. And with
MailScanner, incoming mail will queue up if MailScanner can't keep up for a
while, so you never actually send back the temporary failure codes you have
to use with milters. This system is hardly "big iron" (or any kind of iron,
for that matter), and cost less than $5000. If he supports 25,000 users, he
should be able to scare up at least that much money.

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Re: Migrating my mailhub from 4.9 to 5.x

2004-06-19 Thread Skylar Thompson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:43:43PM +0200, Frank BONNET wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am in the process to migrate my mailhub ( ~3000 mailboxes ) from 4.9
> to the next 5.x release to be able to use native nss_ldap and pam_ldap.
> 
> I have tested the 5.2.1 version on another smallest machine and most
> of my needings are working.
> 
> BUT
> 
> I need also to change the webmail I use actually as it seems to be not
> supported anymore , this is IMHO working on the Roxen http server.
> 
> I need a webmail that works with uw-imap ( mandatory ) and the maildox
> format as I have to keep a large amount of mailboxes and don't want
> want to use the maildir format for now.
> 
> Any recommendations on the webmail I should use ? 
> I have tested some on my spare machine but really don't know how they 
> will work under a "production load" 
> 
> The machine is a HP/Compaq Proliant GL380 with 2 Gb RAM 
> and a lot of disk space.

I'd highly recommend Squirrelmail (http://www.squirrelmail.org). I use it
on a couple servers at work (a campus-wide server, and a server specific to
the CS department), and it works great. It's got a good plugin system, and
is reasonably fast (and with options to make it very fast).

Another one to look at is OpenWebmail (http://openwebmail.org). I haven't
used this in a production environment, so I don't have much practical
knowledge of it.

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Re: new server hardware recommendations ?

2004-06-19 Thread Skylar Thompson
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:28:56AM +0200, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I'm will be retiring my old and trusty rackmount machine soon and will
> be purchasing a new one to replace it. The old one was a home-grown
> combination of hardware, fitting into a 2U chassis.
> 
> For its replacement however, I am looking for a more professional
> system, including professional (hardware) support if needed, because I
> will be trying to run some paid services of it.
> Something from a vendor like Dell, IBM or HP/Compaq.
> Something that preferably fits into 1U and can give me some degree of
> hardware fault tolerance like a raid5 built-in on 3 disks.
> I have seen something like this coming from Dell for example (allthough
> I'd really rather use 2x AMD64, which Dell doesn't do ..)
> 
> Anyway, who is using FreeBSD in a professional world on hardware like
> this ? Anyone with a recommendation?
> This 'swap' won't happen untill Q4 this year, so it will be running
> 5-STABLE then. Please take this new platform into consideration for when
> recommending new hardware.

Although I can highly recommend Dell systems, FreeBSD has an annoying bug
wrt to their 1U system (the Poweredge 1750) where the SCSI bus will hang if
you have more than one device installed at boot time. This apparently
doesn't happen if you have the $400 RAID option card installed; it only
happens when the SCSI bus is a plain SCSI bus.

Other than that, I've been very happy with Poweredges. We also have 2650
running FreeBSD 4.10, and it's been a pleasure to work with. It's blazingly
fast (especially compared to our old dual P-III setup), reliable, and has
FreeBSD support for *everything*. There's a software utility for the PERC
RAID card (aaccli), a kernel support for the remote-access controller, etc.
I'd highly recommend it.

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Re: Cd burning and what app to use

2004-06-19 Thread jqdkf
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 11:26:13PM -0400, Bruce wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Currently, I am running Gnome 2.6 and I am just wondering what cd
> burning software is really good from the ports collection? 
> 
> I want to burn cd's from iso files or copy music cd's to cd's.
> 
> Or make data cd's.

burncd in the base system will do.

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RE: missing libintl.so.5 ??

2004-06-19 Thread Edward Carmody
I did a portupgrade -ruf gettext, and that fixed it.  Thanks Luke, thanks
List.

-Original Message-
From: Luke Kearney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:05 PM
To: Edward Carmody
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: missing libintl.so.5 ??


On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:01:55 -0400
Edward Carmody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:

> Hi,
> 
> I've apparently botched a portupgrade (I think?)...when installing
Apache2,
> I get the following:
> 
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] # make install
> ===>   apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found
> ===>   apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 - not
> found
> ===>Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 in
> /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257
> ===>  Building for autoconf-2.57_1
> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2.
> =
> 
> I've googled, and tried upgrading gettext, I still don't have libintl.so.5
> on my system:
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] # find / -name libintl*
> /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6
> /usr/local/lib/libintl.so
> /usr/local/lib/libintl.a
> /usr/local/include/libintl.h
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.gl
> ibc
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.so.6
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.so
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.a
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.lai
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.la
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.la
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.h
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.so.6
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.so
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.a
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.lai
>
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.la
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.la
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.h
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] #
> =
> 
> I've seen the same complaint about libintl.so.5 while trying to install
> other ports; I don't know where to go from here.  Any help is greatly
> appreciated.

you'll need to upgrade gettext and recursively at that too. umm 
portupgrade -uR gettext will probably fix your ails.

HTH

LukeK

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Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)

2004-06-19 Thread Denny Jodeit

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jayson Alvarez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lloyd Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)


> Hi Lloyd,
>
>Let me share you my experience with learning
> freebsd. I promise you... you'll throw away those
> expensive books that you have bought after reading my
> story..
>
> A few months ago, I was totally a Windows user.
> I've already heard about Linux from a friend but not
> exactly Unix.. That friend of mine was convincing me
> to use the same OS he's using but I refused to cause
> I've seen nothing graphical with he's OS(running the
> whole thing in Terminal without using any Desktop
> environment). But then something bright have sparked
> in my mind and decided to search Google for "best
> Operating System". And so I've landed on Windows,
> Freebsd, MacOS and, Linux comparison.. Of the four
> OS's featured, I've never heard anything about FreeBSD
> and so I went to their site to find out more... And my
> journey began there...
>After finishing the installation of Freebsd(using
> only the handbook and nothing else) I've landed on
> this so called terminal.. Mind you, I'm completely new
> to Unix and I know not a thing, not even the "ls"
> command.. Learning that FreeBSD is a Unix like
> operating system, I began searching google for "Unix
> commands" and I've downloaded something in PDF format
> comparing the commands in MSDOS(which I'm used with)
> and those that are used in Unix..
>And that's it!!! With a few resources at hand I was
> able to do all of the things I used to do in Windows
> without having too much trouble in FreeBSD..
> Now, I'm still reading FreeBSD's Handbook and I'm
> already on the Chapter 19-Advance Networking..
> preparing my self for a career in Networking being
> just a fresh graduate..
>   I tell you... learning one thing is not about the
> those fancy Documents and instructions that would help
> you out along the way... It's about having that
> willingness and passion to learn that thing.. It's
> about having the confidence that, "hey, if they've
> learned this, why can't I?!" Knowledge is a long race,
> and don't you worry my friend.. you're not the last in
> this race... 'cause no one has ever gone too far..
>
>Hope this thought would help you out and all of
> those beginners like "us" whom would want to dwell
> into the simple but complicated world of Unix
> computing...
>
> Regards to all Mailers
> -jay:-)
>
>
>
Jay,

You got the spirit.
>From what you've said here, you went at it exactly like I did.

Denny


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Cd burning and what app to use

2004-06-19 Thread Bruce
Hello all,

Currently, I am running Gnome 2.6 and I am just wondering what cd
burning software is really good from the ports collection? 

I want to burn cd's from iso files or copy music cd's to cd's.

Or make data cd's.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Re: cvsup coredump

2004-06-19 Thread Dave

There were some security problems with cvs awhile ago.  I think it is
unlikely that cvsup3.jpg.FreeBSD.org though would be suffering.

Have you tried another cvsup server?
Are you running the latest updates of FreeBSD?

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, John Lee wrote:

> Why does it always coredump?
>
> Connecting to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org
> Connected to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org
> Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
> Negotiating file attribute support
> Exchanging collection information
> Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
> Running
> Updating collection src-all/cvs
> make buildworld && make installworld Checkout
> src/contrib/binutils/gas/config/obj-coff.c
> ***
> *** runtime error:
> ***Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL
> ***pc = 0x9e634d9e
> ***
>   use option @M3stackdump to get a stack trace
> Abort trap (core dumped)
>
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cvsup coredump

2004-06-19 Thread John Lee
Why does it always coredump?

Connecting to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org
Connected to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org
Server software version: SNAP_16_1h
Negotiating file attribute support
Exchanging collection information
Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection
Running
Updating collection src-all/cvs
make buildworld && make installworld Checkout
src/contrib/binutils/gas/config/obj-coff.c
***
*** runtime error:
***Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL
***pc = 0x9e634d9e
***
  use option @M3stackdump to get a stack trace
Abort trap (core dumped)

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FreeBSD 5.2.1 & OpenLDAP21-server won't start

2004-06-19 Thread David Snyder
I installed a minimal FreeBSD 5.2.1
Then installed Openldap21-server from ports with
# make install clean
Then installed a script
cp /usr/ports/net/openldap21-server /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd.sh
configured slapd.conf & ldap.conf
manually started ldap with /usr/local/libexec/slapd start
and everything worked but the script won't work.
So then i viewed teh script and added the three lines to /etc/rc.d that 
was stated in the script.  I rebooted and still ldap didn't start on 
boot but i can do it manually with /usr/local/libexec/slapd start

Whats the deal?  WHat am I doing wrong?
-Dave
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Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD)

2004-06-19 Thread Jason Oakley
I set up automount, but that's not working.
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
I also get this after a reboot now:
umass0: vendor 0x55aa 8-in-2, rev 1.10/1.01, addr 3
umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): got CAM status 0x4
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device
(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry
I can't mount by hand now. I don't know if that has to do with the automounter:
 $ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt/CF
Just sits there doing nothing.
$ sudo truss mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt/CF
readlink("/etc/malloc.conf",0xbfbff960,63)   ERR#2 'No such file or 
directory'
mmap(0x0,4096,0x3,0x1002,-1,0x0) = 67184 (0x28072000)
break(0x807b000) = 0 (0x0)
break(0x807c000) = 0 (0x0)
lstat("/mnt",0xbfbfee30) = 0 (0x0)
lstat("/mnt/CF",0xbfbfee30)  = 0 (0x0)
readlink("/mnt/CF","/host/localhost/CF",1023)= 18 (0x12)
lstat("/host",0xbfbfee30)= 0 (0x0)
lstat("/host/localhost",0xbfbfee30)  = 0 (0x0)

stalls there
More of the same:
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
nfs server [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/host: not responding
umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED
At 01:31 AM 20/06/2004, Scott Mitchell wrote:
What does 'camcontrol devlist' say?  Probably it will just list one device
(da0) that - as you've found - corresponds with the CF slot on your card
reader.  The other slots are probably mapped to other LUNs (Logical Unit
Numbers) on the same SCSI device number.  The CAM framework only probes LUN
0 by default, so you only see the first slot.  For example, when my machine
boots, I have:
-
http://www.bangrocks.com/ - http://www.auspug.org/
http://www.ZigZagSoft.com/ - PalmOS Software and "Palm Games Programming" forum
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts for x windows system

2004-06-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-19 21:08, Douglas Korinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Running FreeBSD 4.9 and am trying to find a list of keyboard shortcuts
> to help me exit the x windows system without the help of the mouse.

CTRL+ALT+Backspace should bring down the entire X server.

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Re: missing libintl.so.5 ??

2004-06-19 Thread Luke Kearney

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:01:55 -0400
Edward Carmody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:

> Hi,
> 
> I've apparently botched a portupgrade (I think?)...when installing Apache2,
> I get the following:
> 
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] # make install
> ===>   apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found
> ===>   apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 - not
> found
> ===>Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 in
> /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257
> ===>  Building for autoconf-2.57_1
> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2.
> =
> 
> I've googled, and tried upgrading gettext, I still don't have libintl.so.5
> on my system:
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] # find / -name libintl*
> /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6
> /usr/local/lib/libintl.so
> /usr/local/lib/libintl.a
> /usr/local/include/libintl.h
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.gl
> ibc
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.so.6
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.so
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.a
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.lai
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
> ntl.la
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.la
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.h
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.so.6
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.so
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.a
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.lai
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
> l.la
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.la
> /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.h
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] #
> =
> 
> I've seen the same complaint about libintl.so.5 while trying to install
> other ports; I don't know where to go from here.  Any help is greatly
> appreciated.

you'll need to upgrade gettext and recursively at that too. umm 
portupgrade -uR gettext will probably fix your ails.

HTH

LukeK

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Keyboard shortcuts for x windows system

2004-06-19 Thread Douglas Korinke
Running FreeBSD 4.9 and am trying to find a list of keyboard shortcuts to 
help me exit the x windows system without the help of the mouse.

Thanks again,
Doug

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AIM : itss0lidstate

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missing libintl.so.5 ??

2004-06-19 Thread Edward Carmody
Hi,

I've apparently botched a portupgrade (I think?)...when installing Apache2,
I get the following:

=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] # make install
===>   apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found
===>   apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 - not
found
===>Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 in
/usr/ports/devel/autoconf257
===>  Building for autoconf-2.57_1
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2.
=

I've googled, and tried upgrading gettext, I still don't have libintl.so.5
on my system:
=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] # find / -name libintl*
/usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6
/usr/local/lib/libintl.so
/usr/local/lib/libintl.a
/usr/local/include/libintl.h
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.gl
ibc
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
ntl.so.6
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
ntl.so
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
ntl.a
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
ntl.lai
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi
ntl.la
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.la
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.h
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
l.so.6
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
l.so
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
l.a
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
l.lai
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint
l.la
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.la
/usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.h
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/www/apache2] #
=

I've seen the same complaint about libintl.so.5 while trying to install
other ports; I don't know where to go from here.  Any help is greatly
appreciated.


Ed Carmody


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Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story)

2004-06-19 Thread Mark Jayson Alvarez
Hi Lloyd,

   Let me share you my experience with learning
freebsd. I promise you... you'll throw away those
expensive books that you have bought after reading my
story.. 

A few months ago, I was totally a Windows user.
I've already heard about Linux from a friend but not
exactly Unix.. That friend of mine was convincing me
to use the same OS he's using but I refused to cause
I've seen nothing graphical with he's OS(running the
whole thing in Terminal without using any Desktop
environment). But then something bright have sparked
in my mind and decided to search Google for "best
Operating System". And so I've landed on Windows,
Freebsd, MacOS and, Linux comparison.. Of the four
OS's featured, I've never heard anything about FreeBSD
and so I went to their site to find out more... And my
journey began there...
   After finishing the installation of Freebsd(using
only the handbook and nothing else) I've landed on
this so called terminal.. Mind you, I'm completely new
to Unix and I know not a thing, not even the "ls"
command.. Learning that FreeBSD is a Unix like
operating system, I began searching google for "Unix
commands" and I've downloaded something in PDF format
comparing the commands in MSDOS(which I'm used with)
and those that are used in Unix..
   And that's it!!! With a few resources at hand I was
able to do all of the things I used to do in Windows
without having too much trouble in FreeBSD.. 
Now, I'm still reading FreeBSD's Handbook and I'm
already on the Chapter 19-Advance Networking..
preparing my self for a career in Networking being
just a fresh graduate..
  I tell you... learning one thing is not about the
those fancy Documents and instructions that would help
you out along the way... It's about having that
willingness and passion to learn that thing.. It's
about having the confidence that, "hey, if they've
learned this, why can't I?!" Knowledge is a long race,
and don't you worry my friend.. you're not the last in
this race... 'cause no one has ever gone too far..

   Hope this thought would help you out and all of
those beginners like "us" whom would want to dwell
into the simple but complicated world of Unix
computing...

Regards to all Mailers
-jay:-)



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> information on FreeBSD. I 
> got it up and running, then I did something else and
> I start getting 
> errors again
> 
> So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In
> most of the reviews 
> posted there about the books, people were
> complaining about weak 
> documentation, too much information about things
> that they were not 
> interested in, and errors in the in the books which
> seems to be the most 
> common complaint. In my very short recent history
> with FreeBSD, I've 
> formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's
> greatest weakness. 
> FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write
> a good book for 
> beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is
> needed with examples 
> that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in
> plain English. There 
> seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.
> 
> I have decided that it is a very good operating
> system which I need to 
> learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links
> that everyone sent 
> me. Thanks for all of the info.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Lloyd Hayes
> 
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Re: 4.10 stable: xfree86 driver for ati rage xl chipset?

2004-06-19 Thread Anthony Edwards
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 04:36:26PM -0400, andrew kagan wrote:
> Hi All:
> 
> I've been trying to install xfree86 at the same time I'm installing 4.10
> stable.
> 
> The graphical configuration tool comes up fine, but when I try to specify
> the adapter, there's nothing in the list that refers to "ATI" at all.
> 
> If I try to select the default vga adapter, after the config is written and
> xfree86 attempts to load, my video doesn't work at all.
> 
> Is there a way to drop out of xfree86 at this point, even before install has
> completed? I can't proceed to complete the install at this point.
> 
> Or should I be skipping configuration of xfree86 at this point and do it
> after FreeBSD is installed?

You might want to try installing FreeBSD stable without X, and then
once installed go to:

/usr/ports/x11/xorg

And install this meta port of the X.Org X11R6.7.0 release.  Once
installed, follow the instructions at:

http://freedesktop.org/XOrg/ConfigurationHelp

I found that the best way to configure X11R6.7.0 is to first run
(as root) X -configure, which does an excellent job of detecting
my hardware.  I next copy the resultant configuration file to the
correct location as decribed, then carry out final tweaking using
both manual editing of the config file and xorgcfg -textmode.

X11R6.7.0 performs much more satisfactorily with my ATI Radeon 9200
graphics card and Iiyaya Vision Master 1451 monitor than I have been
able to persuade XFree86 4.3.0 to do, and what helps greatly is that
post installation configuration is simplicity itself.

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Miscellaneous Problems

2004-06-19 Thread Douglas Korinke
Hi, I'm a 2 week old FreeBSD 4.9 user who has never used UN*X in my entire 
life and I was running into a few problems that I haven't been able to find 
help with.

I have been attempting to get my pcmcia wireless card running on my laptop, I 
have identified the driver to install (wi), but am quite clueless on how to 
do so.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot,
Doug

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Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread j . e . drews
Hi Lloyd:

 I heartily recommend "FreeBSD: An Open-Source OS for your PC". by Annelise Anderson
http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html
This is the book for absolute beginners. If you think a port is a place where ships
dock and bash is a goth discoteque dance, then this is the book you should be reading.

The next great resource are the tutorials by Dru Lavigne:
FreeBSD Basics
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15
Whether judged by pedagogic, technical or literary standards, Dru's articles are
works of high perfection.

Finally, I recommend getting Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD". The book is a
great resource for technical details about FreeBSD 5.X. I found the sections on TCP/IP 
and the etc file system to be very helpfully.

HTH
Jonathan



> I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
> got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
> errors again
> 
> So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews 
> posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak 
> documentation, too much information about things that they were not 
> interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most 
> common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've 
> formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. 
> FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for 
> beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples 
> that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There 
> seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.
> 
> I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to 
> learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent 
> me. Thanks for all of the info.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Lloyd Hayes
> 
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Re: LED proggy question

2004-06-19 Thread W. D.
Hey Hugo,

Thanks for the info! 

I don't think that the rest of the list got the reply because
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wasn't in one of the recipient
fields.  I don't know why the list doesn't include it.

Regards,

W. D. 

At 05:40 6/19/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>Hey,
>
>I got this working, but only with a x-based program. I pkg_add'ed X and
>started a small session with a xterm to be able to run this program (name
>is xleds). For the interested guys, here is the script:
>
>ipfw-visual.sh:
>
>#!/bin/sh
>tail -f /var/log/ipfw.log | \
>  awk '
>$0 ~ /ICMP/ {
>system("sh /scripts/scrlock");
>}
>$0 ~ /TCP/ {
>system("sh /scripts/numlock");
>}
>$0 ~ /UDP/ {
>system("sh /scripts/capslock");
>}
>'
>
>all the /scripts/*lock consist of the following:
>
>#/bin/sh
>xleds num
>#sleep 0.05
>xleds num
>
>Change num for caps or scrl. I moved xleds to /usr/local/bin so don't need
>a path. You can find this xleds thing easily on google :-)
>
>Initially I  added a sleep delay, but when much traffic was being blocked
>continuously it would keep on blinking the light a lot of time after
>(because of the sleep delay), so later I removed this.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Hugo
>> At 14:08 6/18/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote:
>>>hey,
>>>
>>>I've been trying to find a program on the ports that allows me to change
>>>the state of the keyboard LEDs. I want to put the keyboard on the room
>>>wall and make a script to call a program which makes leds blink according
>>>to the kind of traffic being blocked on the firewall. I want a program
>>>like:
>>>
>>>blink 1 - blinks num lock
>>>blink 2 - blinks caps lock
>>>blink 3 - blinks scroll lock
>>>
>>>If there isn't such a program on the ports, perhaps someone with the
>>>knowledge to write this program could do it ? I don't touch C for many
>>>many years and couldn't find any function to do this.
>>>
>>>Any help appreciated! :-)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Hugo
>>
>> Hugo,
>>
>> This sound insane, but very cool.  Please let us know if you
>> can get it to work.  If FreeBSD has Linux emulation:
>> http://www.Google.com/search?q=keyboard+kylix+%22num+lock%22+%22caps+lock%22
>>
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Re: OpenOffice and Java downloads are such a pain!

2004-06-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Saturday 19 June 2004 07:32 pm, Bruce wrote:

> I can't believe how much of a pain installing Open-Office 2.0 from the
> ports collection is. The port fails and tells me I need to download a
> file from Sun because of licensing restrictions...

Be sure you're distinguishing between OOo and Java.  The former isn't the 
cause.

> so I download the file it tells me too. Then start the compiling over
> again. Once again, I need a different file. This is driving me crazy. 

Now you know why noone regards Java as free software.
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Cannot compile jdk14 for Freebsd 5.2.1 - weired problem occures

2004-06-19 Thread Lukasz Koszanski
 make install
===>  Installing for jdk-1.4.2p6_4
===>   jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on executable: javavm -
found
===>   jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on file:
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/fonts.dir - found
This is basically what happens:

Please use `make -DWITH_DEBUG' if you want to install
libraries and binaries
with debugging support.

===>   Generating temporary packing list
===>  Checking if java/jdk14 already installed
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/jdk1.4.2
cd
/usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/make/../build/bsd-i586/j2sdk-image
&& /usr/bin/find .  |  -pdmu -R root:wheel
/usr/local/jdk1.4.2
-pdmu: not found
*** Error code 127

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk14

Thank you for your time and effort, Luke.



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OpenOffice and Java downloads are such a pain!

2004-06-19 Thread Bruce
I can't believe how much of a pain installing Open-Office 2.0 from the
ports collection is. The port fails and tells me I need to download a
file from Sun because of licensing restrictions, so I download the file
it tells me too. Then start the compiling over again. Once again, I need
a different file. This is driving me crazy.

Bruce

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Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD)

2004-06-19 Thread Jason Oakley
Fantastic! Thanks, Scott!
That did the trick!
At 01:31 AM 20/06/2004, you wrote:
What does 'camcontrol devlist' say?  Probably it will just list one device
(da0) that - as you've found - corresponds with the CF slot on your card
reader.  The other slots are probably mapped to other LUNs (Logical Unit
Numbers) on the same SCSI device number.  The CAM framework only probes LUN
0 by default, so you only see the first slot.  For example, when my machine
boots, I have:
# camcontrol devlist
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da4)
which happens to by the SD/MMC slot on my four-slot reader.  To make the
other slots visible I do:
# camcontrol rescan 2:0:1
# camcontrol rescan 2:0:2
# camcontrol rescan 2:0:3
# camcontrol devlist
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da4)
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 1 (da5,pass1)
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 2 (da6,pass2)
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 3 (da7,pass3)
where the '2' and '0' come from the 'scbus' and 'target' parts of the
devlist output - these will probably be different for your system.  So now
I have da{5,6,7} corresponding to the SmartMedia, CF and Memory Stick slots
on my reader.
I actually have all those 'camcontrol rescan' commands in my /etc/usbd.conf
file, so everything is set up automatically when the reader is detected.
You might also want to look into using the automounter to avoid having to
mount things manually - it's pretty convenient to be able to plug in a card
then just 'cd /flash/cf' (or whatever) to access it.  Dan Pelleg wrote a
pretty good article about this on DaemonNews last year:
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200305/cfmount.html
Hope that's some help to you,
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Re: problems installing applications that need GTK

2004-06-19 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On stardate Sat, 19 Jun 2004, the wise Andy Harrison entered:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:56:57 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It looks like a lot of programs need gtk20, which doesn't install
correctly. When I try gtk20 the error is:
Please clarify "doesn't install correctly."
I always get the error: couldn't recognize the image file format for file 
'./stock_add_16.png'.

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Re: An easy virtual pop solution not involving qmail?

2004-06-19 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:15:30AM +0100, Chris Smith wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently writing a proposal to replace our crapped out Redhat 9 web
> server with FreeBSD 5-STABLE when it appears.  In the process, I need to do
> something with the mail server running on it.  It's currently sendmail with
> virtual domains and one user account per mailbox etc.  Its performance is
> piss poor and the users are complaining (there are 500 of the buggers and
> they poll it all day and night).
> 
> Is there an easier to manage solution that DOESN'T involve qmail where I
> don't need to give users REAL accounts?  I've seen several qmail-centric
> documents floating around on the web but nothing concise and
> straightforward. 
> 
> BTW - I'm not getting into a mail server religious war so don't even go
> there ;-)
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> - Chris.

Dovecot is an excellent and MTA-independant POP/IMAP-server, supporting 
virtual domains, virtual users, and various authentication mechanisms.  

Checkout ports/mail/dovecot or http://dovecot.procontrol.fi/

GH
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Re: An easy virtual pop solution not involving qmail?

2004-06-19 Thread Bill Moran
"Chris Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently writing a proposal to replace our crapped out Redhat 9 web
> server with FreeBSD 5-STABLE when it appears.  In the process, I need to do
> something with the mail server running on it.  It's currently sendmail with
> virtual domains and one user account per mailbox etc.  Its performance is
> piss poor and the users are complaining (there are 500 of the buggers and
> they poll it all day and night).
> 
> Is there an easier to manage solution that DOESN'T involve qmail where I
> don't need to give users REAL accounts?  I've seen several qmail-centric
> documents floating around on the web but nothing concise and
> straightforward. 

Postfix + Cyrus + LDAP.

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UFS2 and ufs2 documentation ?

2004-06-19 Thread Joe Schmoe
Quick question - when I run `mount` or view /etc/fstab in fbsd 5.x, I just see "ufs" 
as the filesystem type.  How can I get some kind of output that assures me that those 
volumes are indeed UFS2 volumes ?  How do I verify that ?
 
Second, where can I find documentation on ufs2 and snapshotting, etc. ?  There is no 
'ufs2' manpage, and the mksnap_ffs man page is about 20 lines long ... where can I 
find more documentation ?
 
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Re: An easy virtual pop solution not involving qmail?

2004-06-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Saturday 19 June 2004 06:15 pm, Chris Smith wrote:

> Is there an easier to manage solution that DOESN'T involve qmail where I
> don't need to give users REAL accounts?

I'm using Cyrus IMAP (and POP) on my FreeBSD server.  There is no direct 
correlation between Cyrus accounts and system accounts, unless you go out of 
your way to make it so.  Authentication can be against a private database, 
Kerberos, an LDAP server, or anything else you can bind Cyrus SASL to.  Also, 
while I'd previously used Sendmail as the MTA, I recently switched to Postfix 
without changing a single bit of the backend configuration.  I mention this 
because it was important to me that I not be tied to a particular MTA.

Hope this helps!
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An easy virtual pop solution not involving qmail?

2004-06-19 Thread Chris Smith
Hi,

I'm currently writing a proposal to replace our crapped out Redhat 9 web
server with FreeBSD 5-STABLE when it appears.  In the process, I need to do
something with the mail server running on it.  It's currently sendmail with
virtual domains and one user account per mailbox etc.  Its performance is
piss poor and the users are complaining (there are 500 of the buggers and
they poll it all day and night).

Is there an easier to manage solution that DOESN'T involve qmail where I
don't need to give users REAL accounts?  I've seen several qmail-centric
documents floating around on the web but nothing concise and
straightforward. 

BTW - I'm not getting into a mail server religious war so don't even go
there ;-)

Many Thanks,

- Chris.



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Re: problems installing applications that need GTK

2004-06-19 Thread Andy Harrison
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:56:57 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It looks like a lot of programs need gtk20, which doesn't install
> correctly. When I try gtk20 the error is:

Please clarify "doesn't install correctly."


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Re: Disabling DHCP

2004-06-19 Thread Jay Moore
On Saturday 19 June 2004 05:11 pm, Geert Hendrickx wrote:

> > I want to turn DHCP on my router off.
> > How can I use FreeBSD to get an IP addresss from it?  When the system
> > boots, it runs dhclient, which hangs for awhile before getting anything.
> >
> > What is the better way?
>
> Using a fixed IP, by adding
>
>   defaultrouter="192.168.1.2"
>   ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.1.210  netmask 255.255.255.0"
>
> to your /etc/rc.conf (be sure to substitute your device and the correct
> ip's), and listing the nameserver(s) in /etc/resolv.conf
>
> That way you won't need your DHCP-server anymore.

I think this advice is correct if the router is set up just so. It could break 
your network connection if not. 

What sort of service do you have? e.g. DSL, cable modem, T1, ...?

Did your ISP assign you a fixed IP address (or block of addresses)?

More information might help you get a better quality answer. If nothing else, 
type 'ifconfig -a' & post that result here.

hth,
Jay
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Re: Sendmail for Large Sites

2004-06-19 Thread Jay Moore
On Friday 18 June 2004, Martin McCormick wrote:

>How well does the administration of Sendmail scale up to sites
> serving as many as 25,000 users?
  << ... >>
>   My thanks to everybody who answered my questions.  If we end
> up doing major revisions to our present mail system, I will have this
> information to contribute to the discussion.  My experience with
> sendmail is very positive, but very limited.  I am well aware that one
> person receiving a couple of hundred messages a day on one work
> station is no indicator of how the same MTA might work when hundreds of
> thousands of messages and bounces are roaring around the mail server
> every day.  Again, thank you all.

Don't forget that the sendmail.org folks also offer a "commercial version" of 
sendmail that includes (iirc) some "enhanced" administration tools, and 
technical support.

hth,
Jay 
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Re: Disabling DHCP

2004-06-19 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 02:40:41PM -0700, Dave wrote:
> 
> I want to turn DHCP on my router off.
> How can I use FreeBSD to get an IP addresss from it?  When the system
> boots, it runs dhclient, which hangs for awhile before getting anything.
> 
> What is the better way?

Using a fixed IP, by adding

defaultrouter="192.168.1.2"
ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.168.1.210  netmask 255.255.255.0"

to your /etc/rc.conf (be sure to substitute your device and the correct
ip's), and listing the nameserver(s) in /etc/resolv.conf  

That way you won't need your DHCP-server anymore.  

GH
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Re: FreeBSD Wiki

2004-06-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Saturday 19 June 2004 02:54 pm, Andy Smith wrote:

> Not wishing to step on Kirk's toes but there is another one at the
> URL in my signature [...]

No toe-stepping was inferred.  :)

As you said, making it available is the important part.
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Disabling DHCP

2004-06-19 Thread Dave

I want to turn DHCP on my router off.
How can I use FreeBSD to get an IP addresss from it?  When the system
boots, it runs dhclient, which hangs for awhile before getting anything.

What is the better way?


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Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread peter lageotakes
--- Lloyd Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I finally decided that I needed to get more
> information on FreeBSD. I 
> got it up and running, then I did something else and
> I start getting 
> errors again
> 
> So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In
> most of the reviews 
> posted there about the books, people were
> complaining about weak 
> documentation, too much information about things
> that they were not 
> interested in, and errors in the in the books which
> seems to be the most 
> common complaint. In my very short recent history
> with FreeBSD, I've 
> formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's
> greatest weakness. 
> FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write
> a good book for 
> beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is
> needed with examples 
> that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in
> plain English. There 
> seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.
> 
> I have decided that it is a very good operating
> system which I need to 
> learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links
> that everyone sent 
> me. Thanks for all of the info.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Lloyd Hayes
> 
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Hello Lloyd,
I must say that there may not be as much documentation
about FreeBSD as there is to other operating systems. 
However the documentation that does exist is of high
quality.  If your looking for an intorductory book:
FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your 

Personal Computer, Second Edition (with CD-ROM) 
by Annelise Anderson 
ISBN: 0971204519 

Also the FreeBSD handbook is an excellent reference:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

Additional articles published by O'Reilly / Onlamp
have a great beginners section (FreeBSD basics and Big
Scary Daemons):
www.onlamp.com/bsd

Another set of good articles:
http://www.daemonnews.org/new2bsd/
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html

Hope this helps,
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Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Tom McLaughlin
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote:
> Lloyd Hayes wrote:
> 
> > I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
> > got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
> > errors again
> >
> > So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the 
> > reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about 
> > weak documentation, too much information about things that they were 
> > not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be 
> > the most common complaint. In my very short recent history with 
> > FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's 
> > greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to 
> > write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book 
> > is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are 
> > explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on 
> > FreeBSD around.
> 
> Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in the 
> first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or SuSe or 
> something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user friendly" 
> operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just have to know 
> some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD.

I would have to disgree having my first *nix experience five years ago
with Mandrake and switching to FreeBSD a number of months ago.  I
switched to FreeBSD because I felt my unix skills were getting rusty. 
When I started with Mandrake I did most of my system configuration and
administration from the command line and I learned a lot of unix in
those first few years.  

Over time with the inclusion of more GUI based tools that became
harder.  Files seemed to keep moving or configuration was spread across
too many files.  I believe you end up becomming too dependant on the
distribution specific configuration tools with Linux and you don't
truely learn the system.  For anyone who really wants to learn unix the
BSDs are the place to start.

Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft.
BSD is for people who love Unix.

Tom

> I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very good. 
> Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth 
> information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good for 
> beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why don't 
> you give that one a shot?
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8369533?v=glance
> 
> And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is bad, 
> because there is book that can beat it if you ask me.
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jorn
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Re: FreeBSD Wiki

2004-06-19 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 01:46:45PM +0100, Graham Bentley wrote:
> I have used in the past Trustix Linux which has a nice Wiki
> page http://doc.trustix.org/cgi-bin/trustixdoc.cgi?TrustixWiki

[...]

> Is there any such resource for FreeBSD ?

Not wishing to step on Kirk's toes but there is another one at the
URL in my signature - also not official of course.  If you have time
to write documentation that doesn't already exist, please do put it
*somewhere* no matter where that is (as long as google can find it).
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Re: This is a test

2004-06-19 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 09:59:49AM -0400, Bruce wrote:
> This is a test!
> 
> Bruce

It worked ;-) but please use freebsd-test@ for this.  

GH
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Re: any use to build from source?

2004-06-19 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On the other hand, the OpenBSD-people advise using packages instead of
ports.  See http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#PortsvsPkgs

I guess it's just a matter of personal taste and needs.  

GH


On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 05:11:22PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2004-06-19 10:58, Patrick Useldinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >
> > > Before I answer to this question, I cannot help noting that you don't
> > > *HAVE* to compile everything from source.  In fact, if you install a
> > > RELEASE version of FreeBSD and use pkg_add to install the binary,
> > > precompiled packages of just the applications you are going to
> > > use... there is absolutely no need to rebuild anything from source.
> >
> > True for the CDs. But once you want to upgrade, things get more
> > complicated. For example, I did not find a package for OpenOffice 1.1.1
> > in the "offical" places, although OO is certainly an excellent candidate
> > for a package.
> 
> Indeed, packages-4-stable, packages-4.10-release on ftp.freebsd.org
> don't include openoffice.  A search at google though yields:
> 
>   http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/
> 
> which does list FreeBSD packages of OO-1.0.3 and OO-1.1.0 :-)
> 
> > This led me to the conclusion that packages, in the FBSD world, are
> > considered less important than the very well maintained ports.
> 
> The ports people are going through a lot of effort to build, test and
> package the maximum possible number of ports before each release.
> 
> > I would prefer it to be the other way round: go for packages, unless you
> > want to tweak anything.
> 
> This is preferable from the end-user's perspective, but I think it would
> exponentially increase the number of precompiled binaries the mirrors
> would have to keep available.  If a port has 3 options and depends on
> another with 4 options, to host every possible combination that one
> might want on the FTP site 12 different combinations would have to be
> built and packaged!  With thousands of ports in the tree this means a
> mind-boggingly huge number of different builds and packages can be built.
> 
> Is it possible to satisfy all the users with precompiled packages?  No.
> 
> So, going for ports and using packages only is a bit difficult :-/
> 
> > I do not agree with an earlier argument, which was that you could change
> > the source. I have been programming for 25 years now, I am certain that
> > you don't change code, not even in a reasonably sized project, without
> > spending a large amount of time.
> 
> I have a local patch to fetchmail in my local /usr/ports tree that fixes
> a bug recent versions have with APOP:
> 
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:05]/usr/ports/mail/fetchmail# cvs -q up -APd
> : ? files/patch-zz::apop_bug
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:05]/usr/ports/mail/fetchmail#
> :
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:06]/usr/ports/mail/fetchmail# cat files/patch-zz\:\:apop_bug
> : --- driver.c.orig   Sun Mar 28 13:29:15 2004
> : +++ driver.cSun Mar 28 13:49:42 2004
> : @@ -429,7 +429,7 @@
> : /* for POP3, we can get the size of one mail only! Unfortunately, this
> :  * protocol specific test cannot be done elsewhere as the protocol
> :  * could be "auto". */
> : -   if (ctl->server.protocol == P_POP3)
> : +   if (ctl->server.protocol == P_POP3 || ctl->server.protocol == P_APOP || 
> ctl->server.protocol == P_RPOP)
> : fetchsizelimit = 1;
> :  
> : /* Time to allocate memory to store the sizes */
> 
> This is a serious showstopper for anyone who uses fetchmail and doesn't
> want to fetch all the messages in one connection (for whatever reasons).
> 
> It didn't take me more than 15 minutes to write, but then I'm working as
> a programmer so that's "normal".  Fetchmail is, IMHO, a reasonably sized
> project.  I'm not saying this to sound insulting to you in any way, or
> to boast about my ''l33t h4x0r skillz'' -- that's nonsense.  I am only
> bringing it up as a good example where building the port *does* have
> obvious advantages.
> 
> - Giorgos
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Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Jorn Argelo
Lloyd Hayes wrote:
I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
errors again

So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the 
reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about 
weak documentation, too much information about things that they were 
not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be 
the most common complaint. In my very short recent history with 
FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's 
greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to 
write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book 
is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are 
explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on 
FreeBSD around.
Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in the 
first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or SuSe or 
something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user friendly" 
operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just have to know 
some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD.

I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very good. 
Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth 
information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good for 
beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why don't 
you give that one a shot?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8369533?v=glance
And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is bad, 
because there is book that can beat it if you ask me.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
Cheers,
Jorn
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Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Tom McLaughlin
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 14:23, Lloyd Hayes wrote:
> I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
> got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
> errors again
> 
> So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews 
> posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak 
> documentation, too much information about things that they were not 
> interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most 
> common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've 
> formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. 
> FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for 
> beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples 
> that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There 
> seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.

Of the free OSs I think the different BSDs tend to be the better
documented.  Along with the man pages (don't short them, some can be
obtuse at times but overall they give me what I need most of the time),
this has served as my primary source of documentation for FreeBSD:

http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html

Book wise, there are more on Linux.  This is starting to change though
which is great.  I think what you are looking for isn't necessarilly a
FreeBSD specific book, though having at least one is great, but a
general unix primer to help you get more familiar with unix concepts.  I
remember when I started toying around with linux and stared at the
command line not knowing what to do.  I had "Running Linux" back then
which had a great intro to such things like file permissions,
users/groups, and navigating around the system.

Since I really can't from looking at my bookshelf, can anyone recommend
a book with a few good chapters on general unix concepts to get a
completely green user familiar and comfortable with "the way things are
done"?  Comming from $OTHER_OS to unix can be daunting but once you get
the basics down, you start to complain that $OTHER_OS is too hard to do
what you want.  :)

Tom

> I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to 
> learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent 
> me. Thanks for all of the info.

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Re: Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread Julian M. Mason
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 05:27:02PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> I don't remember about zsh, but I think it has a 'rehash' command too.
> 
> GNU bash should take care of this automagically.

zsh needs the 'rehash' command; bash does not.

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Re: FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Remko Lodder
Lloyd Hayes wrote:
I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
errors again

So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews 
posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak 
documentation, too much information about things that they were not 
interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most 
common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've 
formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. 
FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for 
beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples 
that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There 
seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.

I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to 
learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent 
me. Thanks for all of the info.

Hi Lloyd,
Welcome to the FreeBSD Questions Mailinglist!
We try to help persons who have issues with their installations, etc.
And you are one of those persons we want to try and help.
However, we can help you if you give more information, what errors do 
you get? Do you perhaps know what you did which caused those errors?
From what moment did those errors arise?

What links did you get? Did people refer to the handbook?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
or the faq?
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html
or where?
And what books did you order? Perhaps they are outdated, or not very up 
to date anymore.

What version are you running?
Oh, and you can contribute, read the handbook and faq, and create some 
articles, which you think need to be linked with freebsd so that anyone 
can use them.
You can find more information for that here:
http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/index.html

I hope this helped a little,
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FreeBSD weakness.

2004-06-19 Thread Lloyd Hayes
I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I 
got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting 
errors again

So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews 
posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak 
documentation, too much information about things that they were not 
interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most 
common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've 
formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. 
FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for 
beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples 
that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There 
seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around.

I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to 
learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent 
me. Thanks for all of the info.

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Re: FreeBSD Wiki

2004-06-19 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Saturday 19 June 2004 07:46 am, Graham Bentley wrote:

> Is there any such resource for FreeBSD ?

It's not official, but I host exactly such a thing at:

http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Freebsd/WebHome
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Re: any use to build from source?

2004-06-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-19 17:59, Patrick Useldinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >
> >Is it possible to satisfy all the users with precompiled packages?
> >No.
>
> My argument is the other way round: build a package will *all* available
> options. It will be bloated, but still smaller (in download size) and
> faster to install. If you like it, keep it, and want to tweak it
> afterwards, OK, go for it, the investment is worthwile
>
> That makes one single package that should suit everybody (unless options
> are mutually exclusive, of course, but that's not often the case AFAIK).

Heh.  Not really.  For instance, it wouldn't suit me.  I know it sounds a bit selfish, 
but I mean that someone, somewhere will want their ports trimmed in size and features 
to suit exactly what they need and only that.

Building all the features and all the possible modules of all the
packages and installing all of them, at the same time, is the "Redhat,
Mandrake and Fedora philosophy" that I specifically wanted to avoid when
I first came to BSD.

I sure hope size-bloat and feature-bloat in packages does not become the
BSD standard any time soon now :(

> That is indeed a reasonable example, but I am not sure there are many
> of them.

Maybe.  I'm not the one to judge; that's for sure.

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recording from a dlink dsb-r100 usb radio.

2004-06-19 Thread George Hartzell

I'm trying to become sound savy.

I have a D-Link DSB-R100 usb radio, and  Sony Vaio PCG-Z505-JE laptop
running:
   FreeBSD rosebud.alerce.com 4.9-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p5 #20: Tue Apr 20 
10:02:23 PDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ROSEBUD  i386

I kldload the ufm.ko module, plug it in, and I can control it with
Warner's (I think) little ufmctl program.  It tunes, mutes,
etc... just fine.

In particular, it sounds perfectly reasonable for an fm radio.

I'm trying to record stuff, and the results that I'm getting sound
like crap.

I've been using sox, in two configurations I cribbed from the web:

  sox -v 1.0 -t ossdsp /dev/dsp -w -r 44100 -t cdr -

  sox -t ossdsp /dev/audio -t .wav -r 44100 -c 2 -

Both of them end up sounds lousy when I play them back in xmms, much
worse than listening to it directly.

Can anyone comment on how I might get better recordings?

I'll happily supply more information on request (I'm not sure what
else to supply though...).

g.
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Re: blocking internally

2004-06-19 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Jun 19, 2004, at 06:11, John Lee wrote:
hi, i have 7 ips on one box, however they can't connect internally
to each other IP ports. please advise.
Counting below, you only reference 6 IP addresses on the box: 
63.223.65.192, 63.223.65.193, 63.223.71.2, 63.223.71.3, 63.223.71.4, 
and 63.223.71.5.  What's the seventh one?

here's my setup:
rc.conf:
defaultrouter="63.223.65.1"
ifconfig_sis0="inet 63.223.65.192  netmask 255.255.255.0"
/etc/ips.added:
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.65.193/32 alias
Ok.  BTW, these statements indicate that you own an entire class C of 
public address space.  That seems unlikely, and if it's not the case, 
you shouldn't be using the addresses.

ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.2/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.3/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.4/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.5/32 alias
Problem here.  These addresses are not in the same subnet as the 
primary address (63.223.65.0/24).  Therefore you shouldn't use a /32 
for them, you should use the actual netmask.  This is definitely true 
for the FIRST 63.223.71.x address, and I *think* it's true for the 
others as well.  I've never actually seen an example of assigning 
multiple IPs for a second subnet under FreeBSD.

route add 63.223.65.193 63.223.65.1
This is broken.  You're saying "route any traffic this host is sending, 
destined for itself, to an external gateway".  I really doubt you want 
to do that.

route add 63.223.71.2 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.3 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.4 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.5 63.223.71.1
Again broken, for the same reasons.  You don't normally enter routing 
statements for your OWN IP addresses, you enter routing statements that 
describe how to reach OTHER addresses/networks.

KeS
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problems installing applications that need GTK

2004-06-19 Thread Marco Beishuizen
Hi,
Since I upgraded to 4.10-STABLE I have a lot of problems installing 
programs. Trying to install by FTP with sysinstall always results in 
errors and sysinstall core dumps when it's accessing the cdrom. Also 
installing from the ports results in a lot of errors.

It looks like a lot of programs need gtk20, which doesn't install 
correctly. When I try gtk20 the error is:

...
failed to load "./stock_add_16.png": Couldn't recognize the image file 
format for file './stock_add_16.png'
*** Error code 1
...

What can I do to install gtk20?
Thanks,
Marco
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Re: CMS Software

2004-06-19 Thread Mike
Graham Bentley wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone can comment on the following :-
I am looking to install some CMS software and to run my 
web site long term on FreeBSD.

I am thinking something on the lines of phpWebsite,
PostNuke/PhpNuke or similar (ie easy for me to install
and maintain / update - don't need buckets of features
just basic simple / effective / reliable)
I'll need Apache, MySQL, PHP
Graham,
Give mambo a try (www.mamboserver.com).  I've tried PostNuke/PhpNuke and 
Mambo and I have found a little easier to set-up for a basic CMS.

Mike
I read somewhere once that after the initial install and
update of FreeBSD all that was required was a simple
make in the postnuke ports directory and this action
woudl go away and fetch everything that was required,
install it and write out basic / sensible conf files then run
the appropriate services.
If this is true, and it works then I am even more impressed
with FreeBSd than I first thought.
So, if you are using any kind of CMS for your website and
have done the above can you make recommendations ?
Thanks 3BSDee'ers !
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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 - Joke-only release ? April Fools ??

2004-06-19 Thread Jorn Argelo

So the question is, has any person, anywhere, at any
time, successfully installed 5.2.1-RELEASE on any
hardware whatsoever ?  Or is it just a practical joke
release ?
 

I'm not going to tell you again that the installation media is bad, 
because everybody else said that already.

But something that I do wish to say is that I am wondering why it is 
always the fault of the software, and not the person itself. I mean, 
think about it, do you truely think a project like FreeBSD would release 
software that is _that_ unstable? Thousands, ten thousands of people are 
using it daily for their server or workstation needs. Aren't you going 
to think then that it might be a problem which lies with you and not the 
software?

Why don't we take our friend Bill's software for example? Starting from 
Windows NT4, it has been a good operating system for both servers and 
workstations. You can't say it's bad, because it's probably being 
maintained by a bad system adminstrator then. It's the programs running 
on Windows that can make it run bad (spyware, malware, viruses, bad 
drivers, name it up). People always bash Microsoft for security 
exploits, but FreeBSD and Linux people have to patch their machines as 
well because of security exploits. Why don't they ever give a kick when 
they have to patch their *nix machine, and they all blame, curse, troll 
and flame on Microsoft and Windows, but we forget that Windows 
developers are humans as well. Anyway, this is going too much offtopic.

Pardon my obvious frustration, but I am quite tired of people bashing 
and trolling on software like this before they even think about their 
problem.
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Re: Turning off sshd version display when someone telnets to port.

2004-06-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
Emperor of Florida wrote:
[ ...concealing the purpose of a port... ]
Currently when you telnet to it you will see:
Escape character is '^]'.
SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.6.1p1 YbrickRd
As Jeremy said, SSH depends on exchanging the version of the procotols it is 
using in order for both sides to figure out what types of cryptography they 
can use.

You have already improved the security of your installation significantly, and 
to the point where any gains beyond this are going to require heroic measures. 
 You might consider setting up IPsec, or blocking inbound SSH connections 
from all but a few IP addresses, or changing SSH to use OPIE rather than 
reusable passwords.

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Re: Redirection with a bridge ?

2004-06-19 Thread Chuck Swiger
Matt Juszczak wrote:
Is there a way to do IP redirection without using layer 3? (IPNAT or 
routing)?  I have a bridge setup and want to redirect any port 80 
traffic outgoing through the bridge to a specific server  but it 
seems I can only do this with ipfw's forward/fwd or ipnat's rdr commands 
... which are all layer 3 oriented and dont work with just a bridge...
Well, you can use layer-2 bridging to forward network traffic to any directly 
connected physical subnet you want to, and you can use "ifconfig alias" to 
give machines on that subnet multiple IPs.

If a machine sees traffic to its MAC address and/or is in promiscuous mode 
(which is what a FreeBSD bridge sets the interfaces it uses to), the machine 
will pay attention to those packets.  If the packets contain IP addresses 
which the machine believes belong to it, then it will respond appropriately.

Frankly, however, I suspect that you are confusing yourself more than you are 
solving the problem you actually want to solve.  :-)  Given a sufficiently 
complex set of firewall rules, packet forwarding, NAT re-writing, and whatever 
else, you can mangle packets in pretty much any way one can think of.

Do this only when you need to, to the extent that is useful.  If setting up a 
"normal" network and letting the default TCP/IP local-subnet and routing 
behaviors do the right thing is at all possible, let the default behavior work 
for you.

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Re: any use to build from source?

2004-06-19 Thread Patrick Useldinger
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
Indeed, packages-4-stable, packages-4.10-release on ftp.freebsd.org
don't include openoffice.  A search at google though yields:
http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/
which does list FreeBSD packages of OO-1.0.3 and OO-1.1.0 :-)
Which is not 1.1.1 or the latest 1.1.2.
This is preferable from the end-user's perspective, but I think it would
exponentially increase the number of precompiled binaries the mirrors
would have to keep available.  If a port has 3 options and depends on
another with 4 options, to host every possible combination that one
might want on the FTP site 12 different combinations would have to be
built and packaged!  With thousands of ports in the tree this means a
mind-boggingly huge number of different builds and packages can be built.
Is it possible to satisfy all the users with precompiled packages?  No.
My argument is the other way round: build a package will *all* available 
options. It will be bloated, but still smaller (in download size) and 
faster to install. If you like it, keep it, and want to tweak it 
afterwards, OK, go for it, the investment is worthwile

That makes one single package that should suit everybody (unless options 
are mutually exclusive, of course, but that's not often the case AFAIK).

I believe that, for most software, we are just end-users.
I have a local patch to fetchmail in my local /usr/ports tree that fixes
a bug recent versions have with APOP:
It didn't take me more than 15 minutes to write, but then I'm working as
a programmer so that's "normal".  Fetchmail is, IMHO, a reasonably sized
project.  I'm not saying this to sound insulting to you in any way, or
to boast about my ''l33t h4x0r skillz'' -- that's nonsense.  I am only
bringing it up as a good example where building the port *does* have
obvious advantages.
That is indeed a reasonable example, but I am not sure there are many of 
them. I also believe that the original author should, if at all 
possible, do this correction, because it is useful to many people.

-pu
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Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD)

2004-06-19 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 07:45:28AM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Saturday 19 June 2004 04:18 am, Jason Oakley wrote:
> > Ive managed to mount the CF card in my multicard reader:
> >
> > /dev/da0s1 129254313349792024%/mnt/CF
> >
> > But not the SD card port on the same reader.
> > I'm guessing it's /dev/da1s1 but I used MAKEDEV on it and I still
> > can't mount it.

What does 'camcontrol devlist' say?  Probably it will just list one device
(da0) that - as you've found - corresponds with the CF slot on your card
reader.  The other slots are probably mapped to other LUNs (Logical Unit
Numbers) on the same SCSI device number.  The CAM framework only probes LUN
0 by default, so you only see the first slot.  For example, when my machine
boots, I have:

# camcontrol devlist
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da4)

which happens to by the SD/MMC slot on my four-slot reader.  To make the
other slots visible I do:

# camcontrol rescan 2:0:1
# camcontrol rescan 2:0:2
# camcontrol rescan 2:0:3
# camcontrol devlist
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da4)
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 1 (da5,pass1)
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 2 (da6,pass2)
  at scbus2 target 0 lun 3 (da7,pass3)

where the '2' and '0' come from the 'scbus' and 'target' parts of the
devlist output - these will probably be different for your system.  So now
I have da{5,6,7} corresponding to the SmartMedia, CF and Memory Stick slots
on my reader.

I actually have all those 'camcontrol rescan' commands in my /etc/usbd.conf
file, so everything is set up automatically when the reader is detected.
You might also want to look into using the automounter to avoid having to
mount things manually - it's pretty convenient to be able to plug in a card
then just 'cd /flash/cf' (or whatever) to access it.  Dan Pelleg wrote a
pretty good article about this on DaemonNews last year:

http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200305/cfmount.html

Hope that's some help to you,

Scott

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Re: Memory / Swap Space Problem

2004-06-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am having problems with my swap space. Maybe. I'm not sure what's
> going on, to be honest. If my memory is at 100% load and I just keep
> opening apps, shouldn't at some point my swap space be used?

Not necessarily.

See:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#MORE-SWAP
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM

and if you want more information, any introductory operating systems
textbook will spend dozens of pages explaining paging techniques.
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interrupt storm on irq 7

2004-06-19 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi,
I keep receiving messages about interrupt storm on irq 7 and my 
device being throttled down on my -CURRENT machine.

The result is very slow printout.
Does anybody else see this, or is there a workaround for it?
Regards,
Uli.
P.S.I am using cups - perhaps this causes the problem?
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Re: blocking internally

2004-06-19 Thread Pavel Duda
John Lee wrote:
hi, i have 7 ips on one box, however they can't connect internally
to each other IP ports. please advise.
here's my setup:
rc.conf:
defaultrouter="63.223.65.1"
ifconfig_sis0="inet 63.223.65.192  netmask 255.255.255.0"
/etc/ips.added:
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.65.193/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.2/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.3/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.4/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.5/32 alias
route add 63.223.65.193 63.223.65.1
route add 63.223.71.2 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.3 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.4 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.5 63.223.71.1
Why are you using this routes ? Is .71.1 some other gateway ?

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Re: login troubles (password prompt is slow to appear)

2004-06-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
RF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> installed... and the password prompt still takes forever to appear.
> Anyone know what's going on?  I heard something about FreeBSD doing a
> DNS on every connecting IP and that adding my IP (which is
> unfortunately not static) to  etc/hosts would bypass the lookup... but
> it still takes a long time.

I think you probably still aren't getting the name resolution on the
connecting machines (yes, sshd does do a reverse name lookup).  Try
adding debug flags to the sshd and see what it thinks the problems
are.  There is an "sshd_flags" variable in rc.conf that you can set to
do this automatically at boot time.
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Re: blocking internally

2004-06-19 Thread Pavel Duda
John Lee wrote:
hi, i have 7 ips on one box, however they can't connect internally
to each other IP ports. please advise.
here's my setup:
rc.conf:
defaultrouter="63.223.65.1"
ifconfig_sis0="inet 63.223.65.192  netmask 255.255.255.0"
/etc/ips.added:
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.65.193/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.2/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.3/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.4/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.5/32 alias
route add 63.223.65.193 63.223.65.1
route add 63.223.71.2 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.3 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.4 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.5 63.223.71.1
You have some reason to route ifaces through 63.223.71.1 ? And where is 
this "gateway" ?


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Memory / Swap Space Problem

2004-06-19 Thread Bruce
Hi all,

I am having problems with my swap space. Maybe. I'm not sure what's
going on, to be honest. If my memory is at 100% load and I just keep
opening apps, shouldn't at some point my swap space be used? Its always
0%

[EMAIL PROTECTED] swapinfo
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity
/dev/ad0s2b   10485760  1048576 0%

Not sure..
Any help would be great.

Thanks again,
Bruce

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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 - Joke-only release ? April Fools ??

2004-06-19 Thread j . e . drews
Hello Joe:

 You may want to look here for advice on installing also.
The FreeBSD Laptop Compatibility List
http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/

 Maybe you should just get CD 1 of FreeBSD 5.2.1 and try installing from
that?

Kind regards,
Jonathan





> So the question is, has any person, anywhere, at any
> time, successfully installed 5.2.1-RELEASE on any
> hardware whatsoever ?  Or is it just a practical joke
> release ?

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Re: NFS Port

2004-06-19 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 01:20:57PM -0400, Bruce Hunter wrote:

> I am able to connect to my NFS system like so
> mount 192.168.1.14:/home/NFSave /mnt/coreserver
> 
> I want to connect from outside my network, like when I'm at school. What
> port(s) does NFS run off. I have to do port forwarding on my
> Router/Firewall.

Look at mountd(8) for the server side of managing NFS -- use the '-p'
options to specify a port to listen on for NFS mount requests.  Port
2049 is the traditional port number for NFS, but portmap(8) generally
only treats that as a guideline, so unless you force it, NFS can use
just about any high numbered port.

Make sure you firewall off port 111 very carefully on any system
running portmap(8) [4.x] or rpcbind(8) [5.x] -- (same program, just
renamed between system versions) exposed to the Internet.  RPC is a
favourite and generally very fruitful attack vector.

On the client, you will need to use tcp as the transport -- not all
clients will support that -- and you can specify what port to contact
the server on in /etc/fstab, thus bypassing the usual portmapper
procedure.  See the descriptions of the '-T' and '-o port' options in
mount_nfs(8).

As others have mentioned, this would be a good situation in which to
use an IPSEC tunnel or similar between server and client -- NFS
traffic is vulnerable to snooping and exposes the contents of your
harddrive.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Redirection with a bridge ?

2004-06-19 Thread Thomas Farrell
You can do it with a cisco like this. You can pickup a used 250x series
cheap. Just make sure you are using IOS 12 >

ip nat pool trans 10.10.10.0 10.10.10.254 netmask 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Ethernet0 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.10.10.13 110 interface Ethernet0 110
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.10.10.13 80 interface Ethernet0 80
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.10.10.13 25 interface Ethernet0 25
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Ethernet0

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 7:05 PM
Subject: Redirection with a bridge ?


> Hello all,
>
> Is there a way to do IP redirection without using layer 3? (IPNAT or
> routing)?  I have a bridge setup and want to redirect any port 80
> traffic outgoing through the bridge to a specific server  but it
> seems I can only do this with ipfw's forward/fwd or ipnat's rdr commands
> ... which are all layer 3 oriented and dont work with just a bridge...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you in advance for anyone's help,
>
> Matt
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RE: FreeBSD Wiki

2004-06-19 Thread JJB
What you are talking about is commonly refereed to as "how-to"  Do
an google search on FreeBSD + how-to for list of sites which accept
your type of how-to write ups. You can post your how-to to all the
sites that will accept them.

There is noting like that in the official FreeBSD.org environment.
All FreeBSD has is the official handbook and if you feel your write
out is better than what is in the handbook, or if handbook does not
cover your how-to, then tar your how-to and submit it to the FreeBSD
doc group using the pr-send command. There are instruction to follow
on Freebsd.org site under doc.



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Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:47 AM
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Subject: FreeBSD Wiki


Hi All,

I was just wondering something :-

I have used in the past Trustix Linux which has a nice Wiki
page http://doc.trustix.org/cgi-bin/trustixdoc.cgi?TrustixWiki

It includes some nice step by step configs for that distro
and I think its great that peeps can add there own info
and collaborate in this way.

I wrote the small part on Samba. (Ok its basic stuff but
usefull if you are starting out)

Whilst the mailing lists are great, searchable etc things
do get lost in time. Wouldnt it be great if there was a user
cookbook for commonly required tasks (how many times has
this list had the same questions asked :)

Examples:-

1) Installing PostNuke on 5.2.1
2) Serving anonymous FTP
3) Creating a LAN Mail Hub

Is there any such resource for FreeBSD ?

(I am guessing that there is more official documentation
but that this is less task / step orientated ?)

If not - fancy starting one ?? :))

I have only got ADSL and an old box but would be willing
to host it.

All you have to do is help me get the software up and running :))

g:o)
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Re: any use to build from source?

2004-06-19 Thread Robert Huff

Patrick Useldinger writes:

>  True for the CDs. But once you want to upgrade, things get more
>  complicated. For example, I did not find a package for OpenOffice
>  1.1.1 in the "offical" places, although OO is certainly an
>  excellent candidate for a package.

If you have not found in unofficial places, try here:

http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/

>  This led me to the conclusion that packages, in the FBSD world,
>  are considered less important than the very well maintained
>  ports.

I do not know if it is official policy, but it is de facto true
for one reason.  It is much easier to go from the port to the
package than vice versa.

>  I agree with that argument, you can tailor the compilation. But
>  it's probably not systematical, but rather the exception.

You might be surprised.  With the ability to tailor things by
variables fed to make (which can be made the default by inclusion in
pkg_tools.conf), quite a few people (raises hand) are doing at least
some of this.

>  I do not agree with an earlier argument, which was that you could
>  change the source. I have been programming for 25 years now, I am
>  certain that you don't change code, not even in a reasonably
>  sized project, without spending a large amount of time.

But if the programmer and/or port maintainer do all the work
for you?


Robert Huff


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RE: Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread JJB
Enter  rehash   command

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Subject: Application commands without having to restart

Hello everyone,

I just installed a port. Usually, a application has a define command
to
start it and can be run from anywhere on the command line. When you
first install an application. The command isn't available to the
system
until after a reboot.

How do I make the system aware? Refresh the commands list?
Any reading material on this?

Thanks for your help
Bruce

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Re: Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-13 01:41, Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I just installed a port. Usually, a application has a define command to
> start it and can be run from anywhere on the command line. When you
> first install an application. The command isn't available to the system
> until after a reboot.

Nah, not really.  You can always run it with its full pathname:

tcsh> sh /usr/local/etc/rc.d/foo.sh start

> How do I make the system aware? Refresh the commands list?
> Any reading material on this?

Are you using tcsh as your login shell?  If yes, just run:

tcsh> rehash

This should 'refresh' tcsh's idea of what commands are available.

I don't remember about zsh, but I think it has a 'rehash' command too.

GNU bash should take care of this automagically.

- Giorgos

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Re: Redirection with a bridge ?

2004-06-19 Thread Matt Juszczak
Renato Marques wrote:
   Hmmm.. I really can't think about some solution... All of them involve a
router before, in or after the bridge.
   How about proxying before the bridge?
 

I think that my be an option.  I'll have to think on it, I appreciate 
your help though.  Thanks!
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Re: Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
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Bruce Hunter wrote:
| Hello everyone,
|
| I just installed a port. Usually, a application has a define command to
| start it and can be run from anywhere on the command line. When you
| first install an application. The command isn't available to the system
| until after a reboot.
|
| How do I make the system aware? Refresh the commands list?
| Any reading material on this?
|
| Thanks for your help
| Bruce
The only time you need to reboot an *nix machine is to modify the
hardware or to change the currently running kernel.
In csh, type rehash to refresh the list of applications found in your PATH.
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Re: Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread Bernt. H
Bruce Hunter wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just installed a port. Usually, a application has a define command to
start it and can be run from anywhere on the command line. When you
first install an application. The command isn't available to the system
until after a reboot. 

How do I make the system aware? Refresh the commands list?
Any reading material on this?
If you have the standard shell (csh) then a simple
% rehash
would do.
Thanks for your help
Bruce
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Re: memory

2004-06-19 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
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Paul Diaguila wrote:
| Greetings
|
| I've added a gig of memory to a 5.1 system.  When booting, it shows 1024
| meg.  Looking in the dmesg log, it says:
| real memory  = 268414976 (255 MB)
| avail memory = 251363328 (239 MB)
|
| I would expect to see real memeory at 1024 also  What don't I
| understand
|
| thanks...
|
| Paul
If you are reading the dmesg via dmesg|more, page down. A lot. It is not
uncommon to have multiple boot records in dmesg's output.
What does sysctl hw.physmem return?
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Re: NFS Port

2004-06-19 Thread Renato Marques

NFS will not work travessing a firewall doing NAT or RDR.
NFS uses the RPC protocol that controls what ports NFS are going to use,
so the Fiewall know nothing about this and block the traffic.
You could be setting a VPN...


> Hi all,
>
> I am able to connect to my NFS system like so
> mount 192.168.1.14:/home/NFSave /mnt/coreserver
>
> I want to connect from outside my network, like when I'm at school. What
> port(s) does NFS run off. I have to do port forwarding on my
> Router/Firewall.
>
> Thanks so much
> Bruce
>
>
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Re: Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread Steve Bertrand

> How do I make the system aware? Refresh the commands list?
> Any reading material on this?

# rehash

Cheers,

sb


>
> Thanks for your help
> Bruce
>
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Re: any use to build from source?

2004-06-19 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-06-19 10:58, Patrick Useldinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>
> > Before I answer to this question, I cannot help noting that you don't
> > *HAVE* to compile everything from source.  In fact, if you install a
> > RELEASE version of FreeBSD and use pkg_add to install the binary,
> > precompiled packages of just the applications you are going to
> > use... there is absolutely no need to rebuild anything from source.
>
> True for the CDs. But once you want to upgrade, things get more
> complicated. For example, I did not find a package for OpenOffice 1.1.1
> in the "offical" places, although OO is certainly an excellent candidate
> for a package.

Indeed, packages-4-stable, packages-4.10-release on ftp.freebsd.org
don't include openoffice.  A search at google though yields:

http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/

which does list FreeBSD packages of OO-1.0.3 and OO-1.1.0 :-)

> This led me to the conclusion that packages, in the FBSD world, are
> considered less important than the very well maintained ports.

The ports people are going through a lot of effort to build, test and
package the maximum possible number of ports before each release.

> I would prefer it to be the other way round: go for packages, unless you
> want to tweak anything.

This is preferable from the end-user's perspective, but I think it would
exponentially increase the number of precompiled binaries the mirrors
would have to keep available.  If a port has 3 options and depends on
another with 4 options, to host every possible combination that one
might want on the FTP site 12 different combinations would have to be
built and packaged!  With thousands of ports in the tree this means a
mind-boggingly huge number of different builds and packages can be built.

Is it possible to satisfy all the users with precompiled packages?  No.

So, going for ports and using packages only is a bit difficult :-/

> I do not agree with an earlier argument, which was that you could change
> the source. I have been programming for 25 years now, I am certain that
> you don't change code, not even in a reasonably sized project, without
> spending a large amount of time.

I have a local patch to fetchmail in my local /usr/ports tree that fixes
a bug recent versions have with APOP:

: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:05]/usr/ports/mail/fetchmail# cvs -q up -APd
: ? files/patch-zz::apop_bug
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:05]/usr/ports/mail/fetchmail#
:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:06]/usr/ports/mail/fetchmail# cat files/patch-zz\:\:apop_bug
: --- driver.c.orig Sun Mar 28 13:29:15 2004
: +++ driver.c  Sun Mar 28 13:49:42 2004
: @@ -429,7 +429,7 @@
:   /* for POP3, we can get the size of one mail only! Unfortunately, this
:* protocol specific test cannot be done elsewhere as the protocol
:* could be "auto". */
: - if (ctl->server.protocol == P_POP3)
: + if (ctl->server.protocol == P_POP3 || ctl->server.protocol == P_APOP || 
ctl->server.protocol == P_RPOP)
:   fetchsizelimit = 1;
:  
:   /* Time to allocate memory to store the sizes */

This is a serious showstopper for anyone who uses fetchmail and doesn't
want to fetch all the messages in one connection (for whatever reasons).

It didn't take me more than 15 minutes to write, but then I'm working as
a programmer so that's "normal".  Fetchmail is, IMHO, a reasonably sized
project.  I'm not saying this to sound insulting to you in any way, or
to boast about my ''l33t h4x0r skillz'' -- that's nonsense.  I am only
bringing it up as a good example where building the port *does* have
obvious advantages.

- Giorgos

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Re: removal of question

2004-06-19 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
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Application commands without having to restart

2004-06-19 Thread Bruce Hunter
Hello everyone,

I just installed a port. Usually, a application has a define command to
start it and can be run from anywhere on the command line. When you
first install an application. The command isn't available to the system
until after a reboot. 

How do I make the system aware? Refresh the commands list?
Any reading material on this?

Thanks for your help
Bruce

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NFS Port

2004-06-19 Thread Bruce Hunter
Hi all,

I am able to connect to my NFS system like so
mount 192.168.1.14:/home/NFSave /mnt/coreserver

I want to connect from outside my network, like when I'm at school. What
port(s) does NFS run off. I have to do port forwarding on my
Router/Firewall.

Thanks so much
Bruce


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This is a test

2004-06-19 Thread Bruce
This is a test!

Bruce

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Re: Bittorrent not in ports?

2004-06-19 Thread Jez Hancock
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 06:38:23PM -0700, Julian M. Mason wrote:
> ...is bittorrent really not in ports?
> 
> my usual 
> # cd /usr/ports ; make search name="bittorrent" 
> and 
> # whereis bittorrent
> 
> turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net.
> 
> Do I have to actually go and get something myself? 

As others have mentioned the location of the bittorrent port I'll skip
that bit - just a note though to say check out the portsearch perl
script which is useful for finding ports:

/usr/ports/Tools/scripts/portsearch -i bittorrent

turns up plenty to go on.


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Re: USB drive questions

2004-06-19 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 09:13:22AM -0400, stan wrote:
> I had a vendor give me a USB memory stick as a promotional giveaway
> yesterday. Kind of amazing theat they have gotten cheap enough for this.
> 
> In any case, I pluged it into my laptop with STABLE on it (cvsuped last
> weekend). It recognized the device, and told me it was a generic USB
> storage deviec. 
> 
> How can I mount this device? 
> 

You should read the beginning of this article:
http://bsdnews.org/03/cryptusb.php

> Also, when I unplug it I get a panic. I do have, what I think are, the
> correct defines in my kernel config.
> 
[...]

Well the "panic" is not normal, maybe you could give us more details.

Marc
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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-19 Thread Robert Downes
Bernard Dugas wrote:
Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite 
inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ?

FreeBSD will drop down to PIO mode, probably mode 4.
According to Scott Mueller's book, PIO mode 4 offers up to 16.67 MB/sec, 
whereas UDMA can offer up to 100 or 133 MB/sec. So, yes, less efficient 
(but also a bit quieter in my experience).

Have you been able to switch the data cable for a know good cable? That 
solved the problem for me.

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memory

2004-06-19 Thread Paul Diaguila
Greetings
I've added a gig of memory to a 5.1 system.  When booting, it shows 1024 
meg.  Looking in the dmesg log, it says:
real memory  = 268414976 (255 MB)
avail memory = 251363328 (239 MB)

I would expect to see real memeory at 1024 also  What don't I 
understand

thanks...
Paul
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USB drive questions

2004-06-19 Thread stan
I had a vendor give me a USB memory stick as a promotional giveaway
yesterday. Kind of amazing theat they have gotten cheap enough for this.

In any case, I pluged it into my laptop with STABLE on it (cvsuped last
weekend). It recognized the device, and told me it was a generic USB
storage deviec. 

How can I mount this device? 

Also, when I unplug it I get a panic. I do have, what I think are, the
correct defines in my kernel config.

What might I be doing wrong?

-- 
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neither liberty nor safety."
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blocking internally

2004-06-19 Thread John Lee
hi, i have 7 ips on one box, however they can't connect internally
to each other IP ports. please advise.

here's my setup:

rc.conf:
defaultrouter="63.223.65.1"
ifconfig_sis0="inet 63.223.65.192  netmask 255.255.255.0"

/etc/ips.added:
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.65.193/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.2/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.3/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.4/32 alias
ifconfig sis0 inet 63.223.71.5/32 alias

route add 63.223.65.193 63.223.65.1
route add 63.223.71.2 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.3 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.4 63.223.71.1
route add 63.223.71.5 63.223.71.1
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Re: ram disk

2004-06-19 Thread Andy Harrison
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:56:04 -0400, Paul Diaguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> #mount -t -o -s1048576,noasync  /dev/sd0s1b  /var/spool/file
>   mount: exec mount_mfs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or
> directory

Instead of mount, you ought to use the mount_mfs command.  It should
also be located in /sbin/ along with mount.

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FreeBSD Wiki

2004-06-19 Thread Graham Bentley

Hi All,

I was just wondering something :-

I have used in the past Trustix Linux which has a nice Wiki
page http://doc.trustix.org/cgi-bin/trustixdoc.cgi?TrustixWiki

It includes some nice step by step configs for that distro
and I think its great that peeps can add there own info
and collaborate in this way.

I wrote the small part on Samba. (Ok its basic stuff but 
usefull if you are starting out)

Whilst the mailing lists are great, searchable etc things
do get lost in time. Wouldnt it be great if there was a user 
cookbook for commonly required tasks (how many times has 
this list had the same questions asked :)

Examples:-

1) Installing PostNuke on 5.2.1
2) Serving anonymous FTP
3) Creating a LAN Mail Hub 

Is there any such resource for FreeBSD ?

(I am guessing that there is more official documentation
but that this is less task / step orientated ?)

If not - fancy starting one ?? :))

I have only got ADSL and an old box but would be willing
to host it.

All you have to do is help me get the software up and running :))

g:o)
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Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD)

2004-06-19 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Saturday 19 June 2004 04:18 am, Jason Oakley wrote:
> Ive managed to mount the CF card in my multicard reader:
>
> /dev/da0s1 129254313349792024%/mnt/CF
>
> But not the SD card port on the same reader.
> I'm guessing it's /dev/da1s1 but I used MAKEDEV on it and I still
> can't mount it.
>
> $ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/da1s1  /mnt/SD
> msdos: /dev/da1s1: Device not configured
>
> $ ls -d /dev/da1*
> /dev/da1/dev/da1e   /dev/da1s1a /dev/da1s1f
> /dev/da1s4 /dev/da1a   /dev/da1f   /dev/da1s1b
> /dev/da1s1g
> /dev/da1b   /dev/da1g   /dev/da1s1c /dev/da1s1h
> /dev/da1c   /dev/da1h   /dev/da1s1d /dev/da1s2
> /dev/da1d   /dev/da1s1  /dev/da1s1e /dev/da1s3
>

Does your multicard reader accept more than one card at a time?  If not, 
have you tried mounting the SD card using the same device as the CF 
card?

When the SD is inserted, what device message do you see?  What appears 
at the end of dmesg?

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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CMS Software

2004-06-19 Thread Graham Bentley

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone can comment on the following :-

I am looking to install some CMS software and to run my 
web site long term on FreeBSD.

I am thinking something on the lines of phpWebsite,
PostNuke/PhpNuke or similar (ie easy for me to install
and maintain / update - don't need buckets of features
just basic simple / effective / reliable)

I'll need Apache, MySQL, PHP

I read somewhere once that after the initial install and
update of FreeBSD all that was required was a simple
make in the postnuke ports directory and this action
woudl go away and fetch everything that was required,
install it and write out basic / sensible conf files then run
the appropriate services.

If this is true, and it works then I am even more impressed
with FreeBSd than I first thought.

So, if you are using any kind of CMS for your website and
have done the above can you make recommendations ?

Thanks 3BSDee'ers !
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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 - Joke-only release ? April Fools ??

2004-06-19 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jun 19, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Michael W. Oliver wrote:
On 2004-06-18T23:17:14-0700, Joe Schmoe wrote:
So the question is, has any person, anywhere, at any
time, successfully installed 5.2.1-RELEASE on any
hardware whatsoever ?  Or is it just a practical joke
release ?
That's a tad caustic, don't you think?
I bet it's the devil logo that's screwing him up.  We should change it.
:-)
FWIW, I have managed to get 5.2.1 to install on a LAM test system 
(ironic?) at work, once I set the CDROM to master on it's own channel 
(I had to remove the jumpter to install 4.9 because it crashed at boot 
until I did; 5.2.1 crashed at boot until I set it to the opposite way). 
I had burned the 2 meg install floppy to a small CD to install it after 
checking the MD5 sums.

It sounds like your install images or floppies were bad.  I'd 
doublecheck the MD5's and if they check out, re-image some floppies (or 
try putting it on a CD...they tend to be more resilient).

-Bart
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Re: help!

2004-06-19 Thread Simon Barner
ORACLE . wrote:
> when i start the gnome i get this error
> 
> Could not look up internet address 
> This will prevent Gnome from operating correctly. It
> may be possible to correct the problem by adding 
> the file /etc/host. 
> Log on anyway? Cancell? 
> 
> i am getting this error when i start the gnome please
> tell me what to do i am new to freebsd..

Here is a detailed solution to your problem:

http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20

Simon


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Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ?

2004-06-19 Thread Phil Schulz
Bernard Dugas wrote:
Hi,
Robert Downes a écrit :
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I've tried to install the last freebds4.10 on an ASUS PUNDIT, from 
the iso images downloaded from the freeBSD website.
But it can't install. It stops on a :
"ata0 : resetting devices"

I had that problem. I disabled UDMA (Ultra DMA) in the BIOS, and the 
problem was overcome.

However, it ultimately turned out to be a bad data cable to the hard 
drive, so see if you've got a good spare lying around to give that a 
try. (I got some serious errors in 5.2.1 trying to use the bad cable).

Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite 
inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ?

Best regards,
I didn't see the beginning of the thread. But I had a similar problem on 
my desktop machine using (I think) 4.9-Release. It started when I had to 
change the motherboard. The new one came w/ an SiS chipset that wasn't 
supported by FreeBSD. I solved the problem by adding a line to 
/sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c. It worked for a few weeks w/o any problems until 
I switched to RELENG_5_2 for various other reasons.
You might want to post what chipset your mainboard uses.

Phil.
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ram disk

2004-06-19 Thread Paul Diaguila
Greetings
Trying to create a ram disk with this command and seeing the error below.
#mount -t -o -s1048576,noasync  /dev/sd0s1b  /var/spool/file
 mount: exec mount_mfs not found in /sbin, /usr/sbin: No such file or 
directory

I'm googling and looking through archives, but nothing so far.  Any help 
would be greatly appreciated.

Paul
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removal of question

2004-06-19 Thread Rammal -
Hello!
Please remove my this question from FreeBSD mailing list 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-February/034758.html
Thanks.
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Re: help!

2004-06-19 Thread Brett Wiggins
hey,
had the same problem, add the following line to /etc/rc.conf;
  
   hostname="localhost"

hope this helps.

Brett

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Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD)

2004-06-19 Thread Jason Oakley
Ive managed to mount the CF card in my multicard reader:
/dev/da0s1 129254313349792024%/mnt/CF
But not the SD card port on the same reader.
I'm guessing it's /dev/da1s1 but I used MAKEDEV on it and I still can't 
mount it.

$ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/da1s1  /mnt/SD
msdos: /dev/da1s1: Device not configured
$ ls -d /dev/da1*
/dev/da1/dev/da1e   /dev/da1s1a /dev/da1s1f /dev/da1s4
/dev/da1a   /dev/da1f   /dev/da1s1b /dev/da1s1g
/dev/da1b   /dev/da1g   /dev/da1s1c /dev/da1s1h
/dev/da1c   /dev/da1h   /dev/da1s1d /dev/da1s2
/dev/da1d   /dev/da1s1  /dev/da1s1e /dev/da1s3

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Re: how to extract 512 bytes from a file

2004-06-19 Thread Sergey Zaharchenko
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:36:04PM -0400,
 Thomas Farrell probably wrote:

> I was thinking I could take a working avi and extract the first 512
> bytes and insert it into the beginning of a bogus file. Does anyone
> think this may work?

Given the number of compression formats actually hiding under the '.avi'
extension, and that the most sensitive information is usually in the
header, I doubt that. Unless you know for sure what should be there,
this won't work.

> Any idea how I can accomplish this?

dd(1). Especially `seek=...', `skip=...' and `conv=notrunc'.

> Do I smoke too much weed?

Only if you think you're going to guess 512 bytes of the header from
scratch:)

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