Re: Errata Branch

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:39:04PM -0600, Paul Andrews wrote:

 I'm looking for some information on the Errata Branch for 4.10. I just 
 re-installed my FreeBSD system and am now running 4.10-RELEASE. I want 
 to make sure that I am running with the most-up-to-date security patches 
 applied.

Yes.  All you need to do is cvsup to the head of the RELENG_4_10
branch, and compile and install using that code.
 
 I would like to know the steps necessary for appling the changes in 
 RELENG_4_10. Also how can I tell if the security patchs and code fixes 
 have been applied.

Just using cvsup will get you all of the security and other fixes.
That includes all of the patches included in the various security
advisories issued by the FreeBSD project.

To get a newly installed system up to the latest patch level, using
cvsup and doing a complete buildworld cycle is your best bet.  For any
further Errata or Security Advisories, you can always do another
buildworld cycle, or there will usually be instructions in the
advisory on how to just recompile only the affected bits.

If you go the whole 'buildworld' route each time, the uname(1) output
will show the patchlevel of the system: currently that's
4.10-RELEASE-p2 after the release of FreeBSD-SA-04:13 on June 30th.

Instructions on how to do a buildworld can be found in:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

and also be sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING after cvsup'ing to see if
there are any special instructions.
 
 My stable-subfile:
 *default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org
 *default base=/usr
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 src-all

That looks fine to me.

Cheers,

Matthew

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How to get system static info?

2004-09-03 Thread Neo
Hi:
   May you please tell me which procedures or functions can get current cpu usage and 
mem usage in freebsd? Just like top does. It seems freebsd is different with linux in 
said process. Or could you tell me how to find top resource. Many thanks!

 gxz 9-3-2004
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Re: How to get system static info?

2004-09-03 Thread Konrad Heuer

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Neo wrote:

 Hi:
May you please tell me which procedures or functions can get current
 cpu usage and mem usage in freebsd? Just like top does. It seems freebsd
 is different with linux in said process. Or could you tell me how to
 find top resource. Many thanks!

man 3 sysctl

Best regards

Konrad Heuer
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getting ssh to work

2004-09-03 Thread David Syphers
I recently tried to ssh into my desktop from another machine, and found that 
it doesn't work (it times out). I'm not sure what I need to do to make it 
work. I'm running 5-CURRENT from August 3 (back when 5 was still -CURRENT).

I've confirmed that sshd is running (sshd_enable=YES is in rc.conf). I've 
checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and I haven't changed any of the defaults. My 
firewall should allow this sort of thing, and just to make absolutely sure, I 
told my firewall to (temporarily) let in _everything_ from the entire class B 
network the remote machine is on. netstat says that my machine is listening 
on port 22. And I can 'ssh localhost' from my desktop to itself (though it 
does say, socket: Protocol not supported before successfully asking for my 
password).

The remote machine in question is running OpenSSH_3.6.1p2, and I'm running 
OpenSSH_3.8.1p1. I thought maybe for some odd reason ssh'ing out is blocked 
on the remote machine, but then I remembered that a friend tried to ssh in 
from his OS X laptop the other day, and that timed out the same way the 
current remote machine is. And I don't get a Permission denied sort of 
error on the remote machine, just a timeout.

Any ideas? Thanks,

-David

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cvsup fail: Invalid FileAttr.AttrTypes encoding.

2004-09-03 Thread Vonleigh Simmons
	Running FreeBSD 5.2 Release. Haven't modified anything in the last 
week on the server, yet I'm getting this error when I try to cvsup 
since yesterday. 	The command I'm using is cvsup -g -L 2 
/root/ports-supfile. Here's the last of the output before the error:

 Edit ports/graphics/png/files/patch-ab
  Add delta 1.2 2004.09.03.03.47.14 ache
TreeList failed: Error in /usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:.: 64498: 
Invalid FileAttr.AttrTypes encoding.  Delete it and try again.

What exactly is it asking me to delete?
TIA,
Vonleigh Simmons
http://illusionart.com/
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Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Andy Holyer
The other day I was explaining something to my boss (a suit), and I 
mentioned that a FreeBSD box would easily run for a year or more. Oh, 
he said, and then you've got to reboot it?. I explained that 
generally some upgrade comes along that reqwuires a reboot, but I 
realized that I don't know how long a box would stay up in the maximum. 
So, come on, this should be fun, what's the biggest uptime you've ever 
had for a BSD box?

---
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Hedgehog Broadband, 11 Marlborough Place Brighton BN1 1UB
08451 260895 x 241
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Re: cvsup fail: Invalid FileAttr.AttrTypes encoding.

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 01:43:34AM -0700, Vonleigh Simmons wrote:

  Edit ports/graphics/png/files/patch-ab
   Add delta 1.2 2004.09.03.03.47.14 ache
 TreeList failed: Error in /usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:.: 64498: 
 Invalid FileAttr.AttrTypes encoding.  Delete it and try again.
 
   What exactly is it asking me to delete?

Line 64498 of /usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:.

# cd /usr/sup/ports-all/
# sed -i~ -e '64498d' checkouts.cvs:.

Then re-run cvsup, and it will replace the missing line with the
correct data.

Failing that, you can delete or move aside the whole
/usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:. file.  The checkouts files are used
solely for bookkeeping, and as the manual says, cvsup can cope
without, although it makes the cvsup process rather less
efficient. See the section 'THE LIST FILE' in cvsup(1)

 The list file is not strictly necessary.  If it is deleted, or becomes
 inconsistent with the actual client files, cvsup falls back upon a less
 efficient method of identifying the client's files and performing its
 updates.  Depending on CVSup's mode of operation, the fallback method
 employs time stamps, checksums, or analysis of RCS files.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Thursday 02 September 2004 04:02 pm, Dan Finn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 23:22:26 +0100, Steve Hodgson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 02 September 2004 19:34, Dan Finn wrote:
   [ root @ stewie : /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade] : portupgrade
   ruby [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'] [Updating the
   portsdb format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11725 port
   entries found
   .1000.2000.3000.4000.5000
  .6
   000.7000.8000/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.
  8/portsdb.r b:587: [BUG] Bus Error
   ruby 1.8.1 (2004-05-02) [i386-freebsd5]
 
  I have just had the same thing happen to me, and I'm unable to fix
  it by using pkgdb or portsdb. I just portupgraded kde3 using the
  instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING and also updated the nvidia
  drivers. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-p9.
 
  ---  Checking the package registry database
  Stale dependency: gnome2-2.6.2 - nvidia-driver-1.0.6113
  (x11/nvidia-driver): [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format']
  [Updating the portsdb format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11726
  port entries found
  .1000.2000.3000.4000.5000..
 ...6000.7000.8000/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ru
 by/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: [BUG] Bus Error
  ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5]
 
  Abort trap (core dumped)
 
  Any ideas, or suggestions appreciated.

 I ended up having to move /usr/ports out of the way and doing a fresh
 cvsup.  I am not sure why but this fixed it.

I tried this and still got the same error. Mine isn't choking on 
nvidia-driver, though. Also tried reinstalling ruby, still the same 
error.

- jt
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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread David Syphers
On Friday 03 September 2004 01:45 am, Andy Holyer wrote:
 The other day I was explaining something to my boss (a suit), and I
 mentioned that a FreeBSD box would easily run for a year or more. Oh,
 he said, and then you've got to reboot it?. I explained that
 generally some upgrade comes along that reqwuires a reboot, but I
 realized that I don't know how long a box would stay up in the maximum.
 So, come on, this should be fun, what's the biggest uptime you've ever
 had for a BSD box?

Netcraft has a list of long uptimes for websites, which has a lot of FreeBSDs 
(including number 1, with an uptime of nearly five years). Bad security, but 
still...

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

-David

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Re: getting ssh to work

2004-09-03 Thread David Syphers
On Friday 03 September 2004 01:43 am, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 One thing to check -- do you have the machine key for the remote
 machine cached somewhere

No.

 Failing that, try running ssh and/or sshd in debug mode.  On the
 client side you can run:

 % ssh -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 which will trace exactly what ssh is trying to do as you log in.

Not much, it seems. Never makes contact:

$ ssh -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenSSH_3.6.1p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to [host] [host ip] port 22.
debug1: connect to address [host] port 22: Connection timed out
ssh: connect to host [host] port 22: Connection timed out

The ssh_config has 'ForwardX11 yes' but is default apart from that. 
Unfortunately I don't have root access on the remote box.

What's odd is that it never tries to contact me on port 22. I'm logging all 
packets from it to me, and I'm only seeing packets _from_ its port 22 to one 
of my unpriveledged ports (I should have added before that I'm first sshing 
to this computer, then trying to ssh back). I also just tried this from 
another remote computer (OpenSSH_3.7.1p2) on a completely separate network 
2000 miles away, and got the exact same results. (For fun I tried sshing 
between these two remote computers, and that works fine.)

I'd suggest that port 22 is being blocked upstream, but I just ssh'd to an old 
computer that sits right next to my desktop and is on the same network (it 
runs 5.2RC2). That computer can't ssh to mine either.

-David

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Re: Question about Wireless USB Adapter

2004-09-03 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Friday 03 September 2004 00:21, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote:
  On Thursday 02 September 2004 05:53, Will Lieu wrote:
   Hello,
  
 I was just wondering if FreeBSD is going/does it support the
   following Wireless USB Adapter: Netgear MA111.  If not do you know
   where I can get the drivers for this?  I've searched around around and
   seemed to come up empty. Your reply would be greatly appreciated.
 
  As far as I could find, your device is based on the Prism-2 chipset.
  Linux claims to support the device with the wlan-ng driver, but as far as
  I know, FreeBSD doesn't have support for it (at this moment).

 from man wi

 The wi driver provides support for wireless network adapters based around
  the Lucent Hermes, Intersil PRISM-II, Intersil PRISM-2.5, Intersil
  Prism-3, and Symbol Spectrum24 chipsets.  All five chipsets provide a
  similar interface to the driver.

 however i have no idea if this includes USB adapters,
Nope.
At this moment it doesn't.

 the only usb
 wireless driver i came across (or ever looked for for that matter) for
 Freebsd was for Atmel based USB WLAN adapters
 http://vitsch.net/bsd/atuwi/
 it seemed to work quite well when i tried it.
I wrote it :)

I have a Prism-II USB WLAN adapter here at home, I just haven't had the time 
(yet) to look at it. Before I look at it I first want the atuwi driver to be 
in a more finished state..
At this moment I think the atuwi driver is the only USB WLAN driver for 
FreeBSD. All adapters based on other chipset are unsupported at this moment.

grtz,
Daan

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Re: Linux emulators

2004-09-03 Thread Andrey Simonenko
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 23:57:26 -0300 (ART) in lucky.freebsd.questions, E. J. Cerejo wrote:
 Hello I'm running fbsd 4.10 and i would like to run
 linux emulator but I see 3 versions in ports, does it
 matter which one I install and do I have to add
 anything to make.conf if I choose to use one other
 than the one that is default?
 

As I understand you are asking about emulators/linux_base* ports.

They are different, just compare list of distfiles in their
Makefiles and which one you need to install depends on applications
you are going to run under Linux compatibility mode (shared libraries
dependencies for example).  Handbook has a good explanation about
Linux compatibility mode and information about installation of
additional shared libraries.  There isn't any sense to duplicate it
here.
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Lotus Domino server on FreeBSD

2004-09-03 Thread mkondelk
Has anybody experience about Lotus Domino Server on FreeBDS?
Is possible run Lotus Domino server 6.5 fo r Linux on FreeBSD under 
compat Linux?

Thanks for all info
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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
[ Maintainer of lang/ruby18 amd sysutils/portupgrade CC'd ]

On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 02:05:40AM -0700, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
 On Thursday 02 September 2004 04:02 pm, Dan Finn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 23:22:26 +0100, Steve Hodgson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Thursday 02 September 2004 19:34, Dan Finn wrote:
[ root @ stewie : /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade] : portupgrade
ruby [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'] [Updating the
portsdb format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11725 port
entries found
.1000.2000.3000.4000.5000
   .6
000.7000.8000/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.
   8/portsdb.r b:587: [BUG] Bus Error
ruby 1.8.1 (2004-05-02) [i386-freebsd5]
  
   I have just had the same thing happen to me, and I'm unable to fix
   it by using pkgdb or portsdb. I just portupgraded kde3 using the
   instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING and also updated the nvidia
   drivers. I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-p9.
  
   ---  Checking the package registry database
   Stale dependency: gnome2-2.6.2 - nvidia-driver-1.0.6113
   (x11/nvidia-driver): [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format']
   [Updating the portsdb format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11726
   port entries found
   .1000.2000.3000.4000.5000..
  ...6000.7000.8000/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ru
  by/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: [BUG] Bus Error
   ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5]
  
   Abort trap (core dumped)
  
   Any ideas, or suggestions appreciated.
 
  I ended up having to move /usr/ports out of the way and doing a fresh
  cvsup.  I am not sure why but this fixed it.
 
 I tried this and still got the same error. Mine isn't choking on 
 nvidia-driver, though. Also tried reinstalling ruby, still the same 
 error.

Ditto: 'portsdb -u' dumps core. On FreeBSD 4.10, and without KDE or
the like installed:

% uname -a 
FreeBSD happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE 
#81: Sat Aug 28 17:10:47 BST 2004 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HAPPY-IDIOT-TALK  i386

Which suggests it's something in the INDEX file
around line 8400-ish that portsdb can't cope with -- and it's a change
since about 09:00 BST yesterday, when portsdb worked as intended.  I
can't see anything obviously wrong in the backtrace I got from the
coredump though:

#0  0x2819ac0c in kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x281dda65 in abort () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x2808b805 in rb_bug (fmt=0x28118f50 Segmentation fault) at error.c:214
buf = /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: 
\000\000\203\t(\021(+\000\000\000l\a\b8+\000\000\000\2348\001\000\000\000\004\000\000\000\214C\b\001\000\000\000(\000\000\000\0008\001\000\000\000_7\000\0009\000\000_\a\b\000\000\000\000\f\215C\b\001\000\000\000\210L\001\000\000L\001\000\000S\a\bL\000\000\000\000\220\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000t
 [EMAIL PROTECTED](...
out = (FILE *) 0x281e97f0
len = 50
#3  0x280efeca in sigsegv (sig=11) at signal.c:446
No locals.
#4  0xbfbfffac in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
#5  0x281d207f in __bt_put () from /usr/lib/libc.so.4
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x28214ef6 in bdb1_put ()
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i386-freebsd4/bdb1.so
No symbol table info available.
#7  0x28214f5d in bdb1_assign ()
   from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i386-freebsd4/bdb1.so
No symbol table info available.
#8  0x28098b6d in rb_call0 (klass=136611476, recv=136550876, id=333, oid=333, 
argc=2, argv=0xbfbfb308, body=0x82484b4, nosuper=0) at eval.c:5411
func = (VALUE (*)()) 0x28214f2c bdb1_assign
recv = 136550876
len = 2
argc = 2
argv = (VALUE *) 0xbfbfb308
len = 2
_frame = {self = 136550876, argc = 2, argv = 0xbfbfb308, 
  last_func = 333, orig_func = 333, last_class = 136611476, prev = 0xbfbfba0c, 
  tmp = 0x0, node = 0x8116980, iter = 0, flags = 0, uniq = 2127051}
_iter = {iter = 0, prev = 0xbfbfb9b0}
nosuper = 0
b2 = (NODE *) 0x281ddcfd
result = 4
itr = 673271596
tick = 2126983
#9  0x28099618 in rb_call (klass=136611476, recv=136550876, mid=333, argc=2, 
argv=0xbfbfb308, scope=0) at eval.c:5757
mid = 333
body = (NODE *) 0x82484b4
noex = 0
id = 333
ent = (struct cache_entry *) 0x298
#10 0x2809377b in rb_eval (self=136603516, n=0x81171b4) at eval.c:3239
recv = 136550876
argc = 2
argv = (VALUE *) 0xbfbfb308
scope = 0
n = (NODE *) 0x0
contnode = (NODE *) 0x8116840
node = (NODE *) 0x8116980
  

Re: Question about Wireless USB Adapter

2004-09-03 Thread Vince Hoffman


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote:

 On Friday 03 September 2004 00:21, Vince Hoffman wrote:
  On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN] wrote:
   On Thursday 02 September 2004 05:53, Will Lieu wrote:
Hello,
   
  I was just wondering if FreeBSD is going/does it support the
following Wireless USB Adapter: Netgear MA111.  If not do you know
where I can get the drivers for this?  I've searched around around and
seemed to come up empty. Your reply would be greatly appreciated.
  
   As far as I could find, your device is based on the Prism-2 chipset.
   Linux claims to support the device with the wlan-ng driver, but as far as
   I know, FreeBSD doesn't have support for it (at this moment).
 
  from man wi
 
  The wi driver provides support for wireless network adapters based around
   the Lucent Hermes, Intersil PRISM-II, Intersil PRISM-2.5, Intersil
   Prism-3, and Symbol Spectrum24 chipsets.  All five chipsets provide a
   similar interface to the driver.
 
  however i have no idea if this includes USB adapters,
 Nope.
 At this moment it doesn't.

  the only usb
  wireless driver i came across (or ever looked for for that matter) for
  Freebsd was for Atmel based USB WLAN adapters
  http://vitsch.net/bsd/atuwi/
  it seemed to work quite well when i tried it.
 I wrote it :)

Doh so you did ;) I realy must pay more attention when i reply.


 I have a Prism-II USB WLAN adapter here at home, I just haven't had the time
 (yet) to look at it. Before I look at it I first want the atuwi driver to be
 in a more finished state..
 At this moment I think the atuwi driver is the only USB WLAN driver for
 FreeBSD. All adapters based on other chipset are unsupported at this moment.

 grtz,
 Daan

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freebsd builds

2004-09-03 Thread Andrew
Hi,

Building kernels I am comfortable with. I have been doing it a while for SUSE. 
Now I wanted to try freebsd 5.1.  So I have some questions about freebsd 
builds. 
Some of the questions may sound dumb but I want to make sure I don't do 
something catostrophic based on a past experience with SUSE. So...

make clean - simply cleans objects, executables in the work area /usr/src. 
Nothing else

make buildkernel - simply builds the kernel, support modules, and so on in the 
work area only /usr/src. The biilt kernel is located in 
/usr/obj/usr/src/../kernel.

make installkernel - once this is done, that which was in the work area is 
placed in working directories of the installed system. 

For SUSE I used GRUB or lilo to write the boot block. For freebsd I use 
bsdlabel?

I am targeting the kernel for a Soekris 4511. The 4511 has a national 
semiconductor ethernet chip. On SUSE I add the configuration parameter 
NATSEMI=Y to build the ethernet driver. What is the configruation parameter 
for Freebsd ethernet driver.

I was reading a notes file on a technique of building a jail sandbox. The 
sandbox becomes something like freebsd inside freebsd. The purpose was to 
allow someone to make major modifications to the kernel and not affect the 
working operating system components.

Per the notes file, the sandbox is set by:

perform a customer install. 
During the install change the installation location to point to the sandbox.
chroot sandbox
Do a build in the sandbox

I create the folder, changed the destintation to be the sandbox in the 
installation options, and installed freebsd in the sandbox folder. Then I:

chroot to the sandbox

To verify my sandbox install was correct, I tried to rebuild the GENERIC 
kernel in the sandbox.

An error occured in makefile.inc1 line 139. That line has a make command 
dealing with CPUTYPE. The error was its value not being zero.

I then exited the sandbox (command shell) and reexecuted the make command to 
rebuild the GENERIC kernel in the standard /usr/src location. It worked fine. 
So it is not the installation kit.

The problem is something I have not  done or did improperly in creating the 
sandbox. Thoughts.

A


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Re: getting ssh to work

2004-09-03 Thread David Syphers
On Friday 03 September 2004 02:56 am, David Syphers wrote:
[a lot of stuff about how ssh doesn't work]

Oh my, I feel silly. See, I have no experience with LANs, and foolishly though 
that I had a real IP, that computers off the LAN could use to find me... 
Didn't even realize I was _on_ a LAN, actually.

So ssh works fine, I just need to figure out how to let other computers know 
where I am. *sigh*

-David

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100,000 TCP connections - kernel tuning advice wanted

2004-09-03 Thread Simon Lai

Hi all,

As part of a team, I am working on a TCP multiplexor using FreeBSD.  On side A
we have 100,000 TCP connections accepting packets, which are multiplexed
onto a single TCP connection on Side B.  Packets going B-A are 
demultiplexed in the reverse way.  Info -

- freebsd version is 5.2-RELEASE. Kernel has been recompiled to
  use DEVICE_POLLING and unused devices removed.  The
  HZ parameter has been varied through 1000,2000,4000 but this
  does not significantly alter our results.  We have also played with
  the idle and trap sysctl's for polling.
- our network card is an Intel EtherExpress Pro, running at 100Mbits
- UDP is not an option for us
- Average payload size is 50-100 bytes.  The payload is preceeded
  by a 32 bit value, which is the size of the payload, so reading
  is a matter of grabbing the size, allocating a buffer and then
  doing the read.  Minimal processing is done on the packet.
- We are using our own specialized memory management. We use writev and
  readv whereever possible.
- socket buffers have been increased to 1MB on the B side, but are the
  default size on side A.
- we are using kevent/kqueue - this task would be impossible without them
- our current test box has 1.5GB RAM and a 1GHZ Athlon CPU.  While we might
  go for a faster CPU, we would like to keep within our current RAM constraints.
- Side A is connected to a test client, which has 20% idle time.
- Side B is connected via a switch to another test box, which just echos the
  packets back for testing purposes. It has significant idle time.
- Our current rough measurements, using top, show 30% user time, and 60%
  kernel time, when this app is running.  This multiplexing app is the only
  app running on the machine.  The machine is CPU bound - the multiplexing
  requires no disk I/O.

Currently we are getting 4000-6000 packets/sec unidirectional throughput, 
depending upon the mix of packet types/sizes.  This goes up to 
5000-7000 packets/sec for 50,000 connections.

We are seeking advice on what kernel tunables we can tweak to improve 
packet throughput. Constants are TCP, 100,000 connections, 50-100 byte
packet sizes.

All help appreciated.

Regs

Simon

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freeBSD for a CVS server

2004-09-03 Thread Martin Gagnon
Hello,
I'm not a FreeBSD user yet, neither am I a Linux user.  Most of my job
consists in developing systems for the QNX RTP.
I'm currently in the process of setting up a CVS server for 15-20 users
and I'm now at choosing an OS for it. The article posted at:
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php 
gave me a good feeling about the design philosophy and goals that
FreeBSD pursue.  And the HUGE amount of documentation available on your
website made me feel comfortable... So I think I'll go with it.
Now the questions:
-  Which version should I go with? Should I use 4.10 Production
Release? Is the 5.2.1 New Technology Release suitable for a
production server?
-  Is there any article related to the setup of a CVS server
with FreeBSD?
 
Thank you,
Martin Gagnon
Genisys Consulting Group
418 871 0301 x207


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driver : Promise SATA150 TX2/TX4 Serial ATA/150

2004-09-03 Thread Ben Chen
Dear Sir
 
our system need using FreeBsd 4.10, but it don't have driver for Promise
SATA150 TX4
Can anyone give the driver
 
Regards
 
Ben
 
 
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[no subject]

2004-09-03 Thread matt
Hello everyone,

Having some trouble with my cdrw ...

deputy# burncd -f /dev/acd0c -s 1 data /home/matt/devel/monodevel/cd.iso fixate
next writeable LBA 0
writing from file /home/matt/devel/monodevel/cd.iso size 12064 KB

only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes err=5

fixating CD, please wait..
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error
deputy# 

Might also want to see http://paste.atopia.net/58

Console displays WRITE_BIG and CLOSE_TRAC/SESSION errors using burncd.

I've tried changing:

  -CD RW drive
  -CD RW Media
  -Hardware (got an entirely new machine in here)
  -cables

The only thing I havben't changed is the hard drive (haven't tried a new install of
bsd or a different OS).

Running 4.10-RELEASE.  Any ideas?  Thanks!

-Matt

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what is S.M.A.R.T and do I need it when I'm using freebsd (5.x...)

2004-09-03 Thread Angelin Lalev
Hi everyone,
I've got this question that bugs me.
It seems that the bios setup utility on my desktop machine (MB. 
GA-8IPE1000-G Pro) does not support turning on S.M.A.R.T.

I remember that long ago I've read somewhere in the net
that S.M.A.R.T has to do something with remapping the bad sectors
on the IDE drive similar to the way SCSI controller should do it,
but probably I've got it wrong...
So, what is S.M.A.R.T, does FreeBSD use it, and should it be turned
on trough the bios setup utility?
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Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Bart Silverstrim
I have a server that is rapidly filling the var partition with a MySQL 
database.  I'd like to move it to a subdirectory somewhere under /usr.

Is there a document that would outline a best practices approach to 
doing this?  My first instinct was to stop the mysqld, do a mv on 
/var/db to /var/db2 to rename it, copy the data to a /usr/local/db 
folder and alter permissions on it to match /var/db, then make a 
softlink between /usr/local/db and /var/db and restart mysqld so mysqld 
wouldn't need any reconfiguring and everything, I would *think*, should 
keep working...only now it will be working off a far more spacious 
partition.

Thanks,
-Bart
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bash = default

2004-09-03 Thread messmate
Hello,
sorry but i'm more confortable with bash, so 
how can i obtain my bash -i on the login ?
(Without doing a 'bash -i' after the login.)

Thanks for your help.
mess-mate
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RE: Package version problem with portupgrade(1)

2004-09-03 Thread Philip Payne
 
 On Thursday 02 September 2004 01:45 am, Philip Payne wrote:
Well, png is up to png-1.2.5_8 and if you did a recent cvsup and
recreated your INDEXs, that is what you should be seeing.
  
   OK, portupgrade(1) _is_ looking for 1.2.5_8 but it is 
 trying to get it
   from
   
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.9-release/All
   where the version of png is 1.2.5_2, so how to resolve 
 the conflict?
   Seems to me that portupgrade(1) needs to be getting the 
 packages from
   packages-4-stable/All instead?
  
Staying behind is a good way to end up with a security
  
   black hole :).
  
   Precisely.
  
A cvsup of ports-all and a portsdb -uU should be a good 
 way to keep
your system current.
  
   Will that change where portupgrade(1) tries to get the 
 packages from?
 
  I believe the package updates will lag behind the ports 
 source update i.e.
  if you use portupgrade -PP and use packages only there will be the
  occasional port that does not have a package available. I'm 
 not sure how
  long the lag is... I guess different for different ports.
 
  I think you'll just have to accept a slight lag on when you 
 can update
  certain ports.
 
  If this is not the real error I'm sure someone will correct me.
 
 His PACKAGESITE environment variable is set to a wrong 
 location. I think that 
 he needs to set it using something like
 
 setenv PACKAGESITE 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/All
 
 or his favorite mirror, as all one line. and then run 
 portupgrade -PPa. It 
 defaults to the 4.9 release packages and they never change. I 
 have only used 
 PACKAGESITE once and that was to update KDE. The sites were 
 so busy that my 
 computer would build it almost as fast as I could download it.
 

Ah, OK. That makes sense. Didn't realise the package path problem.

If you're using portinstall then you can set alternative package sites in
/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf rather than setting the PACKAGESITE environment
variable.

Phil.
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Re: Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 09:42:36AM -0400, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
 I have a server that is rapidly filling the var partition with a MySQL 
 database.  I'd like to move it to a subdirectory somewhere under /usr.
 
 Is there a document that would outline a best practices approach to 
 doing this?  My first instinct was to stop the mysqld, do a mv on 
 /var/db to /var/db2 to rename it, copy the data to a /usr/local/db 
 folder and alter permissions on it to match /var/db, then make a 
 softlink between /usr/local/db and /var/db and restart mysqld so mysqld 
 wouldn't need any reconfiguring and everything, I would *think*, should 
 keep working...only now it will be working off a far more spacious 
 partition.

I'd do it this way:

i) Stop mysql

   ii) Remove (pkg_delete) the mysql-server package

  iii) Move the database files to their new location, taking care to
   preserve ownership, permissions, timestamps etc.

   iv) Reinstall the mysql-server port setting a different DB_DIR on
   the make command line:

# make DB_DIR=/usr/local/db install

v) Make sure that the home directory of the mysql user account is
   the same as you set DB_DIR to.  The port should take care of
   that, but it won't hurt to double check.

% grep mysql /etc/passwd  
mysql:*:88:88:MySQL Daemon:/usr/local/db:/sbin/nologin

   vi) Restart the mysql server.  Verify that your data survived the
   move.

And that's it: you're done.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: bash = default

2004-09-03 Thread Fernando Gleiser
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, messmate wrote:

 Hello,
 sorry but i'm more confortable with bash, so
 how can i obtain my bash -i on the login ?
 (Without doing a 'bash -i' after the login.)

use chsh


Fer
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Re: Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
 On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 09:42:36AM -0400, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
 I have a server that is rapidly filling the var partition with a
 MySQL
 database.  I'd like to move it to a subdirectory somewhere under
 /usr.

 Is there a document that would outline a best practices approach
 to
 doing this?  My first instinct was to stop the mysqld, do a mv on
 /var/db to /var/db2 to rename it, copy the data to a /usr/local/db
 folder and alter permissions on it to match /var/db, then make a
 softlink between /usr/local/db and /var/db and restart mysqld so
 mysqld
 wouldn't need any reconfiguring and everything, I would *think*,
 should
 keep working...only now it will be working off a far more spacious
 partition.

 I'd do it this way:

 i) Stop mysql

ii) Remove (pkg_delete) the mysql-server package

   iii) Move the database files to their new location, taking care to
preserve ownership, permissions, timestamps etc.

iv) Reinstall the mysql-server port setting a different DB_DIR on
the make command line:

 # make DB_DIR=/usr/local/db install

 v) Make sure that the home directory of the mysql user account is
the same as you set DB_DIR to.  The port should take care of
that, but it won't hurt to double check.

 % grep mysql /etc/passwd
 mysql:*:88:88:MySQL Daemon:/usr/local/db:/sbin/nologin

vi) Restart the mysql server.  Verify that your data survived the
move.

 And that's it: you're done.

Won't a simple symlink of /var/db/mysql to a new location (ie.
/usr/db/mysql) after the directory is moved perform the same task,
without the need to re-install?

I've never done this, but it may work, and save some troubles.

Steve



   Cheers,

   Matthew

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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Andy Holyer wrote:
The other day I was explaining something to my boss (a suit), 

You're a patient one, then ...
and I mentioned that a FreeBSD box would easily run for a year or more.
Oh, he said, and then you've got to reboot it?. I explained that 
generally
some upgrade comes along that reqwuires a reboot, but I realized that I
don't know how long a box would stay up in the maximum. So, come on,
this should be fun, what's the biggest uptime you've ever had for a 
BSD box?

For a publicly accessible host, around 150 days, which is probably too much;
generally things start to feel stale by then, to me, and security paranoia
grows in direct correlation to system uptime (which should reflect more on
my perceived knowledge of security and paranoia than on the Project's
software)
I've heard accounts of boxen acting as, say, LAN routers or LAN file
servers with uptimes of years.  IIRC, Netcraft now claims that most
new FreeBSD builds reset to zero after 400-something days, so
some of their statistics may be no longer as valid...
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Enabling Serial Console

2004-09-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Wish to enable the serial console on my servers so that I can remotely 
view a reboot when it crashes ... I know to  plug the serial cable into 
COM1 ... and I know I have to add something to /boot.config, but, if I 
want to set it so that even if the keyboard is plugged in, the serial 
console works, what do I need to add?  I always thought -P, but reading 
the man page, I'm not so sure :(

Also ... I'm going to cross-connect the servers for now ... 
ServerA/COM1-ServerB/COM2, ServerB/COM1-ServerC/COM2, etc ... what 
happens if all machines come up at once?  I see nothing in the man page 
about 'detecting serial', so I'm assuming that the serial console will 
still work, even if there is nothing at the other end 'listening' yet?

Thanks ...

Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
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Re: Enabling Serial Console

2004-09-03 Thread Steve Bertrand

 Wish to enable the serial console on my servers so that I can remotely
 view a reboot when it crashes ... I know to  plug the serial cable
 into
 COM1 ... and I know I have to add something to /boot.config, but, if I
 want to set it so that even if the keyboard is plugged in, the serial
 console works, what do I need to add?  I always thought -P, but
 reading
 the man page, I'm not so sure :(

I believe what you are looking for is:

# echo '-h'  /boot.config

 Also ... I'm going to cross-connect the servers for now ...
 ServerA/COM1-ServerB/COM2, ServerB/COM1-ServerC/COM2, etc ... what
 happens if all machines come up at once?  I see nothing in the man
 page
 about 'detecting serial', so I'm assuming that the serial console will
 still work, even if there is nothing at the other end 'listening' yet?

 Thanks ...

 
 Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services
 (http://www.hub.org)
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Re: bash = default

2004-09-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hello,
 sorry but i'm more confortable with bash, 

Oh, that's so sad...

so 
 how can i obtain my bash -i on the login ?
 (Without doing a 'bash -i' after the login.)

Just change the login shell in the /etc/passwd file.
use vipw(8) to edit the /etc/passwd file and replace the last field
with /usr/local/bin/bash   (or whatever its full path is)
 (don't edit /etc/passwd with regular vi or vim or emacs or 
 whatever, use vipw to make sure it locks things correctly and
 updates the database when needed)

I have never tried using a flag on the shell in the /etc/passwrd file
so I don't know what the -i will do to it.   You might have to add
some quoting.

You can also use chsh(1) to make the edit.

jerry

 
 Thanks for your help.
 mess-mate
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Re: bash = default

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:22:54AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
 I have never tried using a flag on the shell in the /etc/passwrd file
 so I don't know what the -i will do to it.   You might have to add
 some quoting.

All the -i flag means is that the shell is interactive.  It shouldn't
be necessary to use it for a login shell, as login shells are assumed
interactive already.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I have a server that is rapidly filling the var partition with a MySQL 
 database.  I'd like to move it to a subdirectory somewhere under /usr.
 
 Is there a document that would outline a best practices approach to 
 doing this?  My first instinct was to stop the mysqld, do a mv on 
 /var/db to /var/db2 to rename it, copy the data to a /usr/local/db 
 folder and alter permissions on it to match /var/db, then make a 
 softlink between /usr/local/db and /var/db and restart mysqld so mysqld 
 wouldn't need any reconfiguring and everything, I would *think*, should 
 keep working...only now it will be working off a far more spacious 
 partition.

presuming /usr is actually a good place for it (may really want to add a 
disk and make a really different partition)

First stop MySQL or reboot to single user.
Then
 cd /var/db
 tar cf /usr/db.tar *
 cd /usr
 mkdir var.db
 cd var.db
 tar xf ../db.tar
 cd /var
 mv db db.old
 ln -s /usr/var.db db
Now, reboot and let MySQL start and make sure it all is happy and 
works just fine.
Then clean up.
 cd /usr
 rm db.tar
 cd /var
 rm -rf db.old

It should now work using the space in /usr
You can use any names you like for db.tar, var.db, db.old.   Those
just make sense to me and are the style I use.

If you don't want to move all the stuff in /var/db, then you will
have to be more selective and make the link from within /var/db
rather than just the whole db directory from within /var.

For example, the MySQL stuff is likely to all be in a directory
called /var/db/mysql.   So:

Stop MySQL or reboot to single user.
Then
 cd /var/db/mysql
 tar cf /usr/mysql.tar *
 cd /usr
 mkdir var.db.mysql
 cd var.db.mysql
 tar xf ../../mysql.tar
 cd /var/db
 mv mysql mysql.old
 ln -s /usr/var.db.mysql mysql
Now, reboot and let MySQL start and make sure it all is happy and
works just fine.
Then clean up.
 cd /usr
 rm mysql.tar
 cd /var/db
 rm -rf mysql.old

jerry

 
 Thanks,
 -Bart
 
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Easy question about uninstalling

2004-09-03 Thread Tom Connolly
Hello list,

I have just recently installed 4.10 on my system and I chose the KDE desktop
as the default.  Can someone please tell me how to safely remove all of KDE?
If I use pkg_delete, will this remove everything?  I know this is a remedial
question but I couldn't find any documentation on uninstalling this package
and I just want to be sure that everything gets uninstalled correctly.

 

Thank you,

 


Thomas


 


 

 

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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Bill Moran
Andy Holyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The other day I was explaining something to my boss (a suit), and I 
 mentioned that a FreeBSD box would easily run for a year or more. Oh, 
 he said, and then you've got to reboot it?. I explained that 
 generally some upgrade comes along that reqwuires a reboot, but I 
 realized that I don't know how long a box would stay up in the maximum. 
 So, come on, this should be fun, what's the biggest uptime you've ever 
 had for a BSD box?

Aside from various uptime projects like the ones David commented on, it's
generally not practical to go for long uptimes, for exactly the reasons
you describe.

In practice:
My desktop generally maxes out at about 30 days uptime.  Something comes
up about once a month that causes me to reboot it.  Sometimes it's as
simple as a few days off from work, and I turn the computer off.

Most of the servers I manage (which are all intended for 24/7 access)
see about 3 months between reboots.  That's an average.  Some servers
are more aggresively updated than others, and are rebooted more often.

The fun part (for me) is that this is all _scheduled_ downtime.  For
the potentialtech.com server (for example) has about 3 hours of
unscheduled downtime since Jan 1.  And that downtime is the result
of a failed UPS at the colo facility.  It has 0 unscheduled downtime
due to software issues.

-- 
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Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: ports vs source

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 05:26:11PM +0300, Cristi Tauber wrote:

   Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports
 rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and I'm
 familiar with linux install from tar  stuff. I know to give the
 switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but how i
 can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's say i want
 to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, apache and others
 graphical libraries ... how can I do that with ports ? 
Any link or explications about this subject is appreciated.

FreeBSD ports /is/ installing from source.  Except that all of the
boring stuff like working out what dependencies you need, what flags
are required to find the appropriate shlibs, even where to download
the software from: all that stuff is handled automatically for you.

If you want to setup a webserver running PHP code against a MySQL
back-end database, on a virgin FreeBSD system you can just:

# cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4
# make install
# cd /usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql
# make install 

And all of the PHP stuff, plus apache plus mysql will be installed for
you.  Well, in practice you'ld want to set a few variables on the make
command lines so that you got the right variant of apache (2.0.50 vs
1.3.31 vs 1.3.31+mod_ssl-2.8.19 amongst others) and the right version
of MySQL (choose from 3.23.58, 4.0.20, 4.1.4 or 5.0.0).

The other massive advantage of installing via ports is the packaging
system.  It keeps track of all of the files and directories
etc. installed by each port so that you can do things like create a
pkg tarball of the installed port as a backup or to install quickly
onto another machine.  You can also de-install ports cleanly, and in
conjunction with tools like portupgrade(1) the ports system makes
tasks like managing software updates a breeze.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: ports vs source

2004-09-03 Thread Bill Moran
Cristi Tauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello there,
   Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports
 rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and I'm
 familiar with linux install from tar  stuff. I know to give the
 switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but how i
 can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's say i want
 to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, apache and others
 graphical libraries ... how can I do that with ports ? 
Any link or explications about this subject is appreciated.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-overview.html

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Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Robert Huff

Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. writes:

  I've heard accounts of boxen acting as, say, LAN routers or LAN file
  servers with uptimes of years.

Within the last year or two, I had a conversation with someone
who claimed to have a machine runn9ing 2.2.x (or maybe it was 2.1.x)
continuously since applying the final security patch.

  IIRC, Netcraft now claims that most
  new FreeBSD builds reset to zero after 400-something days, so
  some of their statistics may be no longer as valid...

From the NetCraft FAQ:

Why do some Operating Systems never show uptimes above 497 days ?

The method that Netcraft uses to determine the uptime of a
server is bounded by an upper limit of 497 days for some
Operating Systems (see above). It is therefore not possible to
see uptimes for these systems that go beyond this upper
limit. Although we could in theory attempt to compute the true
uptime for OS's with this upper limit by monitoring for
restarts at the expected time, we prefer not to do this as it
can be inaccurate and error prone.

... which is not exactly the same thing.


Robert Huff



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ports vs source

2004-09-03 Thread Robert Huff

Cristi Tauber writes:

Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports
  rather than installing from tar balls ?

The upside of packages is someone else does all the work for
you.  You install the package, and you're done.
The downside of packages is you get what someone decided should
go in the package whether you need or want it.  Maybe this doesn't
matter; maybe you don't care about being told of potential security
issues, or having 62 sub-modules that will never be used cluttering
up the executable.
At your level of experience, use the ports.


Robert Huff


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Re: what is S.M.A.R.T and do I need it when I'm using freebsd (5.x...)

2004-09-03 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 02), Angelin Lalev said:
 It seems that the bios setup utility on my desktop machine (MB.
 GA-8IPE1000-G Pro) does not support turning on S.M.A.R.T.
 
 I remember that long ago I've read somewhere in the net that
 S.M.A.R.T has to do something with remapping the bad sectors on the
 IDE drive similar to the way SCSI controller should do it, but
 probably I've got it wrong...

SMART is a system where you can poll the disk for status info like
temperature, number of corrected reads, self-test results, etc.  Bad
block remapping will get done by the drive whether you use SMART to
monitor it or not.

 So, what is S.M.A.R.T, does FreeBSD use it, and should it be turned
 on trough the bios setup utility?

It's not really a BIOS thing.  It depends on the hard drives you have.
You can install the smartmontools port to monitor SMART data for both
SCSI and ATA disks.

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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Robert Huff wrote:
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. writes:
 

IIRC, Netcraft now claims that most
new FreeBSD builds reset to zero after 400-something days, so
some of their statistics may be no longer as valid...
   

From the NetCraft FAQ:
Why do some Operating Systems never show uptimes above 497 days ?
The method that Netcraft uses to determine the uptime of a
server is bounded by an upper limit of 497 days for some
Operating Systems (see above). It is therefore not possible to
see uptimes for these systems that go beyond this upper
limit. Although we could in theory attempt to compute the true
uptime for OS's with this upper limit by monitoring for
restarts at the expected time, we prefer not to do this as it
can be inaccurate and error prone.
	... which is not exactly the same thing.
 

Point taken.  Typing faster than thinking is dangerous;
particularly when not looking at the datum to which one
is referring.  Thank you.
KDK
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RE: what is S.M.A.R.T and do I need it when I'm using freebsd (5. x...)

2004-09-03 Thread Michael Clark
SMART is not needed for anything.  It will only warn you when your hard
disks are going bad.  
I don't ever remember anything about it actually remapping sectors.

Its a hardware function, so it has nothing to do with FreeBSD really.

 -Original Message-
 From: Angelin Lalev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 1:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: what is S.M.A.R.T and do I need it when I'm using freebsd
 (5.x...)
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I've got this question that bugs me.
 
 It seems that the bios setup utility on my desktop machine (MB. 
 GA-8IPE1000-G Pro) does not support turning on S.M.A.R.T.
 
 I remember that long ago I've read somewhere in the net
 that S.M.A.R.T has to do something with remapping the bad sectors
 on the IDE drive similar to the way SCSI controller should do it,
 but probably I've got it wrong...
 
 So, what is S.M.A.R.T, does FreeBSD use it, and should it be turned
 on trough the bios setup utility?
 
 
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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, September 03, 2004 09:15:00 AM -0500 Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, 
S.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andy Holyer wrote:
The other day I was explaining something to my boss (a suit),

You're a patient one, then ...
and I mentioned that a FreeBSD box would easily run for a year or more.
Oh, he said, and then you've got to reboot it?. I explained that
generally
some upgrade comes along that reqwuires a reboot, but I realized that I
don't know how long a box would stay up in the maximum. So, come on,
this should be fun, what's the biggest uptime you've ever had for a
BSD box?
For a publicly accessible host, around 150 days, which is probably too
much;
generally things start to feel stale by then, to me, and security
paranoia
grows in direct correlation to system uptime (which should reflect more on
my perceived knowledge of security and paranoia than on the Project's
software)
In the old days, we used to have boxes with uptimes in the 900 day range. 
Nowadays that would be insanity.  As a security professional, I get irked 
that some of our boxes only get patched annually (because they only get 
rebooted annually).  It's far too risky a proposition these days.

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The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, September 03, 2004 10:55:09 AM -0400 Bill Moran 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of the servers I manage (which are all intended for 24/7 access)
see about 3 months between reboots.  That's an average.  Some servers
are more aggresively updated than others, and are rebooted more often.
The fun part (for me) is that this is all _scheduled_ downtime.  For
the potentialtech.com server (for example) has about 3 hours of
unscheduled downtime since Jan 1.  And that downtime is the result
of a failed UPS at the colo facility.  It has 0 unscheduled downtime
due to software issues.
Well, if you're ruling out scheduled downtime, I have a box that's never 
been down since it was purchased four years ago.  :-)

'Course it started out as a RH 7.2 box, and now it's a FreeBSD 4.9 box, but 
it's never had a single minute of unscheduled downtime. :-)

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: FreeBSD 4.10R/moused vs USB Mouse on an IBM A31p

2004-09-03 Thread Anish Mistry
On Thursday 02 September 2004 11:59 pm, ulairi wrote:
 I's confuzzled (and such).

 usbd picks up the rodent without a problem and spins up moused with
 appropriate options (-p /dev/ums0 -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid).

 Some simple tests:
 $ sudo moused -p /dev/ums0 -i all
 /dev/ums0 usb sysmouse generic

 $ sudo moused -d -f -p /dev/ums0
 moused: proto params: f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff
 moused: port: /dev/ums0  interface: usb  type: sysmouse  model: generic

 Nothing else happens when I move the mouse or click buttons.

 In 'dmesg' output, I see:
 ums0: Microsoft Microsoft IntelliMouse\M-. Explorer, rev 2.00/4.19, addr 2,
 iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons

 Help?

I have this exact mouse.  It currently doesn't work due to either a) funny 
issues with our USB HID support or b) funny stuff with the mouse.
I'm highly inclined to say a) which I'm working on a fix in -CURRENT, but 
it'll at the very least be several weeks till the fix is ready for 
consumsion.  Either use the PS/2 adapter which works fine if your laptop has 
a port, or get a new mouse (I know it's a nice mouse with excellent 
tracking).

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Re: ports vs source

2004-09-03 Thread Cristi Tauber
   Yes i know something ... like the avantages of rpm and another
linux package managers. But .. I want apache 1.3.31 with php-4.3.4 and
mysql 4.0.20 (let's say) ... from ports ... i understand that I can
%choose% what version i want to install ?? Is that correct ?
Cristi

On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 17:56, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 05:26:11PM +0300, Cristi Tauber wrote:
 
Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from ports
  rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and I'm
  familiar with linux install from tar  stuff. I know to give the
  switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but how i
  can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's say i want
  to install php and i have to give the path to mysql, apache and others
  graphical libraries ... how can I do that with ports ? 
 Any link or explications about this subject is appreciated.
 
 FreeBSD ports /is/ installing from source.  Except that all of the
 boring stuff like working out what dependencies you need, what flags
 are required to find the appropriate shlibs, even where to download
 the software from: all that stuff is handled automatically for you.
 
 If you want to setup a webserver running PHP code against a MySQL
 back-end database, on a virgin FreeBSD system you can just:
 
 # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4
 # make install
 # cd /usr/ports/databases/php4-mysql
 # make install 
 
 And all of the PHP stuff, plus apache plus mysql will be installed for
 you.  Well, in practice you'ld want to set a few variables on the make
 command lines so that you got the right variant of apache (2.0.50 vs
 1.3.31 vs 1.3.31+mod_ssl-2.8.19 amongst others) and the right version
 of MySQL (choose from 3.23.58, 4.0.20, 4.1.4 or 5.0.0).
 
 The other massive advantage of installing via ports is the packaging
 system.  It keeps track of all of the files and directories
 etc. installed by each port so that you can do things like create a
 pkg tarball of the installed port as a backup or to install quickly
 onto another machine.  You can also de-install ports cleanly, and in
 conjunction with tools like portupgrade(1) the ports system makes
 tasks like managing software updates a breeze.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew

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Re: Which vendor for FreeBSD Rack-Dense Co-Lo Servers?

2004-09-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hello all,
 
 We are an Australian company looking to buy some rack-dense hardware for a FreeBSD 
 implementation at a colocation facility.
 
 So far we have got some quotes from Dell for:
 
 * Some PowerEdge 1850 servers
 * PowerEdge 2850
 * PowerVault 220S direct attach storage
 
 Are there any issues with getting the PERC4 RAID to work with FreeBSD with external 
 storage (the PowerVault 220S)? Are there driver issues with their DAT72 tape drive 
 (that comes with the PowerEdge 2850)?
 
 I had a look at FreeBSD Systems' web site, but they are probably not a feasible 
 option (because we need on-site support in Australia).
 
 Which vendor would you recommend out of the big 3 (HP, IBM, Dell)?
 
 Are there any other vendors that come to mind which might be better? Reliability is 
 the major factor guiding us. Thank you for your help.

Out of those three, we have done well with Dell for our FreeBSD servers.
I wouldn't rule out the others, though, if they are more convenient
for your situation.

Since you have already been checking 'FreeBSD Systems' which seems to have
a good reputation so far (and who knows about handling an Australian
connection, they might), you might want to just ask them how they would
handle service in that situation.  

You might also want to check out 'Iron Systems' at: 

  http://www.ironsystems.com/

jerry

 
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Re: Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Peter Risdon
Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 09:42:36AM -0400, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
I have a server that is rapidly filling the var partition with a MySQL 
database.  I'd like to move it to a subdirectory somewhere under /usr.

Is there a document that would outline a best practices approach to 
doing this?  My first instinct was to stop the mysqld, do a mv on 
/var/db to /var/db2 to rename it, copy the data to a /usr/local/db 
folder and alter permissions on it to match /var/db, then make a 
softlink between /usr/local/db and /var/db and restart mysqld so mysqld 
wouldn't need any reconfiguring and everything, I would *think*, should 
keep working...only now it will be working off a far more spacious 
partition.

I'd do it this way:
i) Stop mysql
   ii) Remove (pkg_delete) the mysql-server package
  iii) Move the database files to their new location, taking care to
   preserve ownership, permissions, timestamps etc.

Might a cp -p be slightly more cautious/paranoid until step vi has been 
completed?

Peter.
   iv) Reinstall the mysql-server port setting a different DB_DIR on
   the make command line:
# make DB_DIR=/usr/local/db install
v) Make sure that the home directory of the mysql user account is
   the same as you set DB_DIR to.  The port should take care of
   that, but it won't hurt to double check.
% grep mysql /etc/passwd  
mysql:*:88:88:MySQL Daemon:/usr/local/db:/sbin/nologin

   vi) Restart the mysql server.  Verify that your data survived the
   move.
And that's it: you're done.
Cheers,
Matthew
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getting off windows

2004-09-03 Thread David Litster
I have a windows machine and I am trying to figure out how to replace 
the windows with freebsd.  how do I do this?
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Re: Errata Branch

2004-09-03 Thread Paul Andrews
Matthew,
Thanks for the information. You might have already answered this but I'm 
not 100% sure, once I have cvsup RELENG_4_10 do I need to buildworld 
just to get the errata branch installed or can I just do as:

make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
or is it better to do
make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
reboot (signal user)
mergemaster -p
make installworld
mergemaster
reboot
Also is it necessary to do the mergemater part of the buildworld process.
Thanks again for the assistance.
Paul
Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:39:04PM -0600, Paul Andrews wrote:

I'm looking for some information on the Errata Branch for 4.10. I just 
re-installed my FreeBSD system and am now running 4.10-RELEASE. I want 
to make sure that I am running with the most-up-to-date security patches 
applied.

Yes.  All you need to do is cvsup to the head of the RELENG_4_10
branch, and compile and install using that code.
 

I would like to know the steps necessary for appling the changes in 
RELENG_4_10. Also how can I tell if the security patchs and code fixes 
have been applied.

Just using cvsup will get you all of the security and other fixes.
That includes all of the patches included in the various security
advisories issued by the FreeBSD project.
To get a newly installed system up to the latest patch level, using
cvsup and doing a complete buildworld cycle is your best bet.  For any
further Errata or Security Advisories, you can always do another
buildworld cycle, or there will usually be instructions in the
advisory on how to just recompile only the affected bits.
If you go the whole 'buildworld' route each time, the uname(1) output
will show the patchlevel of the system: currently that's
4.10-RELEASE-p2 after the release of FreeBSD-SA-04:13 on June 30th.
Instructions on how to do a buildworld can be found in:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
and also be sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING after cvsup'ing to see if
there are any special instructions.
 

My stable-subfile:
*default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all

That looks fine to me.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: getting off windows

2004-09-03 Thread Subhro
Read through http://www.freebsd.org/handbook

And for trashing windows, you can do it after booting with the FBSD CD
and deleting the windows partition

Regards
S.


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 I have a windows machine and I am trying to figure out how to replace
 the windows with freebsd.  how do I do this?
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Re: FreeBSD 4.10R/moused vs USB Mouse on an IBM A31p

2004-09-03 Thread ulairi
Thanks for the reply. I thought as much, but wanted to verify. I'd be
willing to test your patches if you'd like.


On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 08:34, Anish Mistry wrote:
 On Thursday 02 September 2004 11:59 pm, ulairi wrote:
  I's confuzzled (and such).
 
  usbd picks up the rodent without a problem and spins up moused with
  appropriate options (-p /dev/ums0 -I /var/run/moused.ums0.pid).
 
  Some simple tests:
  $ sudo moused -p /dev/ums0 -i all
  /dev/ums0 usb sysmouse generic
 
  $ sudo moused -d -f -p /dev/ums0
  moused: proto params: f8 80 00 00 8 00 ff
  moused: port: /dev/ums0  interface: usb  type: sysmouse  model: generic
 
  Nothing else happens when I move the mouse or click buttons.
 
  In 'dmesg' output, I see:
  ums0: Microsoft Microsoft IntelliMouse\M-. Explorer, rev 2.00/4.19, addr 2,
  iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons
 
  Help?
 
 I have this exact mouse.  It currently doesn't work due to either a) funny 
 issues with our USB HID support or b) funny stuff with the mouse.
 I'm highly inclined to say a) which I'm working on a fix in -CURRENT, but 
 it'll at the very least be several weeks till the fix is ready for 
 consumsion.  Either use the PS/2 adapter which works fine if your laptop has 
 a port, or get a new mouse (I know it's a nice mouse with excellent 
 tracking).

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Re: getting off windows

2004-09-03 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
David Litster wrote:
I have a windows machine and I am trying to figure out
how to replace the windows with freebsd.  how do I do this?

Read, read, read:
www.freebsd.org/handbook
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: getting off windows

2004-09-03 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 03 September 2004 10:42 am, David Litster wrote:
 I have a windows machine and I am trying to figure out how to replace
 the windows with freebsd.  how do I do this?

If you have free space on the hard drive, you can add FreeBSD to the 
computer without deleting Windows.  If you choose to delete Windows, 
just delete the Windows partition during installation and create a 
FreeBSD partition in its place.

The online handbook has a chapter on installation:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Happy Friday!

Andrew Gould
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CRTL+ALT+DEL

2004-09-03 Thread Ing.Miroslav Kondlka
How to disable CTRL+ALT+DEL ? Thanks.
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Re: 100,000 TCP connections - kernel tuning advice wanted

2004-09-03 Thread Subhro
netstat -m please

Regards
S.


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 22:07:35 +1000, Simon Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As part of a team, I am working on a TCP multiplexor using FreeBSD.  On side A
 we have 100,000 TCP connections accepting packets, which are multiplexed
 onto a single TCP connection on Side B.  Packets going B-A are
 demultiplexed in the reverse way.  Info -
 
 - freebsd version is 5.2-RELEASE. Kernel has been recompiled to
  use DEVICE_POLLING and unused devices removed.  The
  HZ parameter has been varied through 1000,2000,4000 but this
  does not significantly alter our results.  We have also played with
  the idle and trap sysctl's for polling.
 - our network card is an Intel EtherExpress Pro, running at 100Mbits
 - UDP is not an option for us
 - Average payload size is 50-100 bytes.  The payload is preceeded
  by a 32 bit value, which is the size of the payload, so reading
  is a matter of grabbing the size, allocating a buffer and then
  doing the read.  Minimal processing is done on the packet.
 - We are using our own specialized memory management. We use writev and
  readv whereever possible.
 - socket buffers have been increased to 1MB on the B side, but are the
  default size on side A.
 - we are using kevent/kqueue - this task would be impossible without them
 - our current test box has 1.5GB RAM and a 1GHZ Athlon CPU.  While we might
  go for a faster CPU, we would like to keep within our current RAM constraints.
 - Side A is connected to a test client, which has 20% idle time.
 - Side B is connected via a switch to another test box, which just echos the
  packets back for testing purposes. It has significant idle time.
 - Our current rough measurements, using top, show 30% user time, and 60%
  kernel time, when this app is running.  This multiplexing app is the only
  app running on the machine.  The machine is CPU bound - the multiplexing
  requires no disk I/O.
 
 Currently we are getting 4000-6000 packets/sec unidirectional throughput,
 depending upon the mix of packet types/sizes.  This goes up to
 5000-7000 packets/sec for 50,000 connections.
 
 We are seeking advice on what kernel tunables we can tweak to improve
 packet throughput. Constants are TCP, 100,000 connections, 50-100 byte
 packet sizes.
 
 All help appreciated.
 
 Regs
 
 Simon
 
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CTRL+ALT+DEL

2004-09-03 Thread mkondelk
How to disable CTRL+ALT+DEL ? Thanks.
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Re: freebsd builds

2004-09-03 Thread Subhro
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 07:48:17 -0400, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Building kernels I am comfortable with. I have been doing it a while for SUSE.
 Now I wanted to try freebsd 5.1.  So I have some questions about freebsd
 builds.
 Some of the questions may sound dumb but I want to make sure I don't do
 something catostrophic based on a past experience with SUSE. So...
 
 make clean - simply cleans objects, executables in the work area /usr/src.
 Nothing else
 
 make buildkernel - simply builds the kernel, support modules, and so on in the
 work area only /usr/src. The biilt kernel is located in
 /usr/obj/usr/src/../kernel.
 
 make installkernel - once this is done, that which was in the work area is
 placed in working directories of the installed system.

Bang on target till here

 
 For SUSE I used GRUB or lilo to write the boot block. For freebsd I use
 bsdlabel?

Nopes bsdlabel is for something else. By default the new kernel gets
installed. No need to update anything in the boot block. If you ned to
boot the old kernel then Hit any other key when it says:

hit [Enter] key to boot kernel

Type unload
then boot /kernel.old

And you will be back with your previous kernel.


 
 I am targeting the kernel for a Soekris 4511. The 4511 has a national
 semiconductor ethernet chip. On SUSE I add the configuration parameter
 NATSEMI=Y to build the ethernet driver. What is the configruation parameter
 for Freebsd ethernet driver.

Refer to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES and /usr/src/sys/NOTES if you
are on 5.* and /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT for the driver.

 
 I was reading a notes file on a technique of building a jail sandbox. The
 sandbox becomes something like freebsd inside freebsd. The purpose was to
 allow someone to make major modifications to the kernel and not affect the
 working operating system components.
 

Well hard luck. Jail is something like FBSD inside FBSD but it is not
completely FBSD inside FBSD. They run the same kernel and not two
separate copies of it. What you need is vmware.

 Per the notes file, the sandbox is set by:
 
 perform a customer install.
 During the install change the installation location to point to the sandbox.
 chroot sandbox
 Do a build in the sandbox
 
 I create the folder, changed the destintation to be the sandbox in the
 installation options, and installed freebsd in the sandbox folder. Then I:
 
 chroot to the sandbox
 
 To verify my sandbox install was correct, I tried to rebuild the GENERIC
 kernel in the sandbox.
 
 An error occured in makefile.inc1 line 139. That line has a make command
 dealing with CPUTYPE. The error was its value not being zero.
 
 I then exited the sandbox (command shell) and reexecuted the make command to
 rebuild the GENERIC kernel in the standard /usr/src location. It worked fine.
 So it is not the installation kit.
 
 The problem is something I have not  done or did improperly in creating the
 sandbox. Thoughts.

I guess you know the reason by now

 
 A
 

Regards
S.


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Re: Errata Branch

2004-09-03 Thread Bill Moran
Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew,
 
 Thanks for the information. You might have already answered this but I'm 
 not 100% sure, once I have cvsup RELENG_4_10 do I need to buildworld 
 just to get the errata branch installed or can I just do as:
 
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
 make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
 
 or is it better to do
 
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
 make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
 reboot (signal user)
 mergemaster -p
 make installworld
 mergemaster
 reboot
 
 Also is it necessary to do the mergemater part of the buildworld process.

Do the entire process: world, kernel, mergemaster.

If you have a good understanding of the patches required to fix the
particular security issues you are trying to fix, it's possible to
determine which of these steps can be skipped.  However, if you're
asking the question, it's probably best to do all three to ensure that
you've got everything.

Once you're caught up via this method, each additional security advisary
will detail the steps required to patch the problem.  It's also possible
to simply cvsup, rebuild world, rebuild kernel, mergemaster and be
confident that everything required was done, so if you're not sure you
fully understand the steps outlined in a particular security advisary,
you can always just go through the entire process to be sure.

 Thanks again for the assistance.
 
 Paul
 
 Matthew Seaman wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:39:04PM -0600, Paul Andrews wrote:
  
  
 I'm looking for some information on the Errata Branch for 4.10. I just 
 re-installed my FreeBSD system and am now running 4.10-RELEASE. I want 
 to make sure that I am running with the most-up-to-date security patches 
 applied.
  
  
  Yes.  All you need to do is cvsup to the head of the RELENG_4_10
  branch, and compile and install using that code.
   
  
 I would like to know the steps necessary for appling the changes in 
 RELENG_4_10. Also how can I tell if the security patchs and code fixes 
 have been applied.
  
  
  Just using cvsup will get you all of the security and other fixes.
  That includes all of the patches included in the various security
  advisories issued by the FreeBSD project.
  
  To get a newly installed system up to the latest patch level, using
  cvsup and doing a complete buildworld cycle is your best bet.  For any
  further Errata or Security Advisories, you can always do another
  buildworld cycle, or there will usually be instructions in the
  advisory on how to just recompile only the affected bits.
  
  If you go the whole 'buildworld' route each time, the uname(1) output
  will show the patchlevel of the system: currently that's
  4.10-RELEASE-p2 after the release of FreeBSD-SA-04:13 on June 30th.
  
  Instructions on how to do a buildworld can be found in:
  
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
  
  and also be sure to read /usr/src/UPDATING after cvsup'ing to see if
  there are any special instructions.
   
  
 My stable-subfile:
 *default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org
 *default base=/usr
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10
 *default delete use-rel-suffix
 src-all
  
  
  That looks fine to me.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Matthew
  
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is there a how-to for : postfix + mysql + sasl + courier_IMAP + postfix admin using ports tree?

2004-09-03 Thread Dan Finn
I came across this site yesterday:

http://www.high5.net/howto/

I would like to know if anyone has gotten this setup working by
installing everything via the fbsd ports tree.  Is there possibly a
how-to already out there in order to do this?

Thanks
Dan
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Re: CRTL+ALT+DEL

2004-09-03 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, [ISO-8859-2] Ing.Miroslav Kond?lka wrote:

 How to disable CTRL+ALT+DEL ? Thanks.

Edit your keymap.  The keymaps are in /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/ .
Assuming you are using cz.iso2.kbd, edit these lines in
/usr/share/syscons/keymaps/cz.iso2.kbd:

  083   del'.''.''.'','','boot   bootN

  103   fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 fkey61 boot   fkey61  O

by changing boot to nop or some other definition of your
choice.


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Re: CTRL+ALT+DEL

2004-09-03 Thread Santo Natale
Try add following line:

options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT

to your kernel conf, recompile and install the kernel.
This should be work.
regards,
Santo Natale


On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 06:16:41PM +0200, mkondelk wrote:
 How to disable CTRL+ALT+DEL ? Thanks.
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Re: is there a how-to for : postfix + mysql + sasl + courier_IMAP + postfix admin using ports tree?

2004-09-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I came across this site yesterday:

 http://www.high5.net/howto/

 I would like to know if anyone has gotten this setup working by
 installing everything via the fbsd ports tree.  Is there possibly a
 how-to already out there in order to do this?

I don't know how firm you are on using postfix, but if your just in
the preliminary stages of deciding how to set up a complete mail
server, check out the Mail-Toaster...

http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/index.shtml

Cheers,

Steve


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Re: CTRL+ALT+DEL

2004-09-03 Thread Richard Cotrina

Edit your kernel configuration, add the line :

options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT

then recompile your kernel, install and reboot.


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Tape drive

2004-09-03 Thread Joe Stuart
I'm trying to backup to tape, but everything I try I get device not
configured.

tar -c /home/joe
tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Device not configured

mt -f /dev/sa0 rewind
mt: /dev/sa0: Device not configured

The device is on and loaded with tapes. Below is the output that is in
the messages log when the server boots, so I'm assuming the server sees
the tape drive alright. Any help is appreciated.


Aug 31 07:42:33 athena /kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to
settle
Aug 31 07:42:33 athena /kernel: sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0
Aug 31 07:42:33 athena /kernel: sa0: ARCHIVE Python 04377-XXX 735C
Removable S
equential Access SCSI-2 device
Aug 31 07:42:33 athena /kernel: sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz,
offset 15)
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Re: Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Derrick Ryalls
  I'd do it this way:
 
  i) Stop mysql

I would actually perform a full mysqldump first and save that off. 
SQL dump file is more flexible concerning version changes than is
saving the actual db files.
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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2004-09-03 Thread Greg Lehey
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===

Last update $Date: 2003/03/09 22:09:31 $

This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list.  If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
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If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
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Read on, and your next message will be more successful.

This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.

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Contents:

I:Introduction
II:   How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III:  Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers?
IV:   How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions

I: Introduction
===

This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the
questions (the hackers).

   Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking
   into other people's computers.  The correct term for the latter
   activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out
   yet.  The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
   security, and have nothing to do with it.

In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups.  The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.  Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.

In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions.  In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.

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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2004-09-03 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD.  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

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Sysinstall - setup freeBSD parttrition by using DD option .

2004-09-03 Thread Dao, Khai (K.)
Hello,
I really need help on freeBSD sysinstall program. During disk
parttrition setup I select DD and confirm it YES now My harddisk
has problems that I cannot continue install freebsd since during
setup.system cannot mount the file system it create.

Your guidance is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Khai dao

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Re: Enabling Serial Console

2004-09-03 Thread mailing lists at MacTutor
Marc,
Try putting either '-h' or '-D' in /boot.config. I found '-D' worked 
for me. Personally, I'm wondering if I can put together a serial 
multiplexer to USB device and write a C or Perl script that will tee 
the output to respective files that I can 'tail -f' on.

For a more thorough treatment in a non-intuitive place checkout the 
Handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html
Alex

On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:18 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
Wish to enable the serial console on my servers so that I can remotely 
view a reboot when it crashes ... I know to  plug the serial cable 
into COM1 ... and I know I have to add something to /boot.config, but, 
if I want to set it so that even if the keyboard is plugged in, the 
serial console works, what do I need to add?  I always thought -P, but 
reading the man page, I'm not so sure :(

Also ... I'm going to cross-connect the servers for now ... 
ServerA/COM1-ServerB/COM2, ServerB/COM1-ServerC/COM2, etc ... what 
happens if all machines come up at once?  I see nothing in the man 
page about 'detecting serial', so I'm assuming that the serial console 
will still work, even if there is nothing at the other end 'listening' 
yet?

Thanks ...

Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services 
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RE: Easy question about uninstalling

2004-09-03 Thread Tom Connolly
Much appreciated.  Thank you.

Thomas

-Original Message-
From: Subhro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG
Cc: Tom Connolly
Subject: Re: Easy question about uninstalling

pkg_delete -F /var/db/kde*

Regards
S.


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:52:30 -0600, Tom Connolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I have just recently installed 4.10 on my system and I chose the KDE
desktop
 as the default.  Can someone please tell me how to safely remove all of
KDE?
 If I use pkg_delete, will this remove everything?  I know this is a
remedial
 question but I couldn't find any documentation on uninstalling this
package
 and I just want to be sure that everything gets uninstalled correctly.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Thomas
 
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Disk failed to mount during sysinstall -

2004-09-03 Thread Dao, Khai (K.)
Hello. 
Sysinstall from freeBSD has option during create disk pattrition ,. I
have select DD option instead of C to create a slice. Now my hard
drive cannot install linux/freeBSD/or OPENBSD any more.During install
after create pattrition.w hen the system format and mount filesystem it
failed and cannot mount at all. No further info about DD option found
to fix. Please help.
AKAI

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Re: ports vs source

2004-09-03 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 06:34:32PM +0300, Cristi Tauber wrote:
Yes i know something ... like the avantages of rpm and another
 linux package managers. But .. I want apache 1.3.31 with php-4.3.4 and
 mysql 4.0.20 (let's say) ... from ports ... i understand that I can
 %choose% what version i want to install ?? Is that correct ?

Well, if you installed those applications from ports you would
currently get apache 1.3.31, php 4.3.8 and mysql 4.0.20 (assuming
you chose the mysql40-server port and not 41-server or 50-server).

You can't choose specific versions of those applications, but I
don't really see why you would want to do that; you normally want
the latest that is maintained for FreeBSD.

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Fwd: Dell PowerEdge 400SC fan speed monitoring

2004-09-03 Thread FreeBSD user
Howdy gang,

I've got a Dell PowerEdge 400SC running 5.3-BETA2 nicely, and I'd like
to be able to monitor the internal fan RPM, if possible. The PE 400SC
motherboard is very similar to an Intel D875PBZ. I've added the
following SMBus options to my kernel:

# smbus interface to Intel ICH5 management
device  smbus   # Bus support, required for smb below.
device  ichsmb
device  smb
# IIC devices to support motherboard monitoring
device  iicbus
device  iicbb
device  iicsmb

# devices I've added at the suggestion of Google and man pages:
device  intpm
device  pcf

But none of the fan speed monitoring ports I've tried will give any
useful results for fan speed. I've installed sysutils/xmbmon, which
gives reasonable looking values for the chipset, motherboard, and CPU
temperatures (95, 104, and 88 degrees F, respectively), but lists fan
speed as 0. sysutils/healthd, when run in non-daemon mode using the
SMBus, reports tempertature at 0, 0, 0, and fan rotational speed at an
unreasonable-looking 0, 22500, 9642. sysutils/consolehm won't compile
in SMBus support unless I symlink /usr/include/dev/smbus/smb.h to
/usr/include/machine/, and then it reports 40.0 degrees C for all 3
temperature sensors and some wacky numbers for fan RPM like 8k, 33k,
and 16k.

Is anyone else able to monitor their PowerEdge 400SC fan speed(s)? Does
anyone have suggestions for getting this working? Am I just chasing my
tail with this? Tune in next week as we present the next gripping
episode of ... As the server turns!

Thanks,

Josh



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Re: Tape drive

2004-09-03 Thread David Kelly
On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Joe Stuart wrote:
I'm trying to backup to tape, but everything I try I get device not
configured.
tar -c /home/joe
tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Device not configured
mt -f /dev/sa0 rewind
mt: /dev/sa0: Device not configured
The device is on and loaded with tapes. Below is the output that is in
the messages log when the server boots, so I'm assuming the server sees
the tape drive alright. Any help is appreciated.
tapes plural? Its a jukebox/changer? If so then the problem is that 
you haven't completed the process to cause a tape to load in the drive. 
Can't help other than recommending the man page for ch(4).

I have a similar Archive SCSI DAT drive which produces the same Device 
not configured message when a tape is not loaded, or not yet ready 
after being inserted.

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Re: Errata Branch

2004-09-03 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

I'm looking for some information on the Errata Branch for 4.10. I just

re-installed my FreeBSD system and am now running 4.10-RELEASE. I want

to make sure that I am running with the most-up-to-date security
patches applied.

I would like to know the steps necessary for appling the changes in 
RELENG_4_10. Also how can I tell if the security patchs and code fixes

have been applied.

My stable-subfile:
*default host=cvsup12.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10
*default delete use-rel-suffix
src-all


Hello,

Your supfile is correct for what you want to do. If you read the faq at
www.cvsup.org/faq.html (#11), however, you will see that on the _first_
cvsup, a slightly different method is recommended to ensure your
checkouts file is correct. In your particular case, in place of
tag=RELENG_4_10, you should have tag=RELENG_4_10_0_RELEASE
list=cvs:RELENG_4_10. Then, when that finishes, change the tag back to
tag=RELENG_4_10 and delete the list= portion of the line. Then run
cvsup again. Remember, you should do this only on the _first_ cvsup;
all subsequent times, ignore this step.
As for checking that you properly updated, after building and
installing world and kernel, run uname -a. You should see
4.10-RELEASE-p2. If you do, the src patches are installed. (The p2
shows your patch level. Right now, for 4.10, it is p2.)
Speaking of src patches, you have only src-all in your supfile. This
means your ports, docs, and cvsroot will _not_ be updated. If you
intend that, fine, just making sure you know. If not, add ports-all,
docs-all, and cvsroot=all to your file.

HTH,

Stheg





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[no subject]

2004-09-03 Thread epf1
I am having an odd problem with sendmail on a FreeBSD 5.3 Beta2 box that
has been updated from 5.2.1.

Here is the problem. I have a .forward set up for root that sends
the mail from the periodic scripts on to a real account.

Right now it doesn't work. It errors out with the following message from
mailq:

Deferred: Name server: mail.mailserver.com.: host name lookup failure

What is odd is this .forward worked before I updated the box to 5.3, and
the same account and setup still works for the other 3 unix boxes in the
basement. If I change the .forward on the broken box to point to my gmail
account the mail goes right through.

Any ideas out there on what might have changed with sendmail between 5.2.1
and 5.3 Beta2?

-Will
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Re: Package version problem with portupgrade(1)

2004-09-03 Thread Mark Ovens
kstewart wrote:
His PACKAGESITE environment variable is set to a wrong location. I think that 
he needs to set it using something like

setenv PACKAGESITE 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/All

Thanks Kent, but it didn't work. Setting it made it search in 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/All. I eventually found 
that it's PKG_SITES that needs setting (and you don't include 'All') 
after trawling through pkgtools.conf. Unfortunately it's not documented 
in the portupgrade manpage.

Anyway, I've got it all working now - thanks for the push in the right 
direction, and thanks Phil too for the input.

Regards,
Mark
or his favorite mirror, as all one line. and then run portupgrade -PPa. It 
defaults to the 4.9 release packages and they never change. I have only used 
PACKAGESITE once and that was to update KDE. The sites were so busy that my 
computer would build it almost as fast as I could download it.


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Re: getting ssh to work

2004-09-03 Thread Mark Vasquez
David Syphers wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2004 02:56 am, David Syphers wrote:
[a lot of stuff about how ssh doesn't work]
Oh my, I feel silly. See, I have no experience with LANs, and foolishly though 
that I had a real IP, that computers off the LAN could use to find me... 
Didn't even realize I was _on_ a LAN, actually.

So ssh works fine, I just need to figure out how to let other computers know 
where I am. *sigh*

-David
 

I had a similar problem with using SSH to connect to a FreeBSD box that 
I have. It turned out that the reason was that on the gateway that I 
use, I had IP forwarding disabled. My gateway is a box running Slackware 
Linux, and I am using Iptables to implement NAT (Network Address 
Translation). Your firewall is most likely something different, but I 
thought that you might find this info helpful in some way.

Mark Vasquez
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Re:

2004-09-03 Thread Steve Bertrand
 Deferred: Name server: mail.mailserver.com.: host name lookup failure

Can you verify proper DNS functionality on the box? Try:

# dig mail.mailserver.com

and;

# dig freebsd.org

Do these return IP addresses?

Steve


 What is odd is this .forward worked before I updated the box to 5.3,
 and
 the same account and setup still works for the other 3 unix boxes in
 the
 basement. If I change the .forward on the broken box to point to my
 gmail
 account the mail goes right through.

 Any ideas out there on what might have changed with sendmail between
 5.2.1
 and 5.3 Beta2?

 -Will
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Re: Package version problem with portupgrade(1)

2004-09-03 Thread kstewart
On Friday 03 September 2004 11:23 am, Mark Ovens wrote:
 kstewart wrote:
  His PACKAGESITE environment variable is set to a wrong location. I think
  that he needs to set it using something like
 
  setenv PACKAGESITE
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/All

 Thanks Kent, but it didn't work. Setting it made it search in
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/All. I eventually found
 that it's PKG_SITES that needs setting (and you don't include 'All')
 after trawling through pkgtools.conf. Unfortunately it's not documented
 in the portupgrade manpage.

Great! I tried it and it didn't work but I will save this for next time :).

I use it so rarely that the mechanism is usally forgotten by the next time :).

Kent


 Anyway, I've got it all working now - thanks for the push in the right
 direction, and thanks Phil too for the input.

 Regards,

 Mark

  or his favorite mirror, as all one line. and then run portupgrade -PPa.
  It defaults to the 4.9 release packages and they never change. I have
  only used PACKAGESITE once and that was to update KDE. The sites were so
  busy that my computer would build it almost as fast as I could download
  it.

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Re: bash = default

2004-09-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Thank, i'll try it.

tis easy.
Either vipw or chsh will do it fine.  But, you need to use
the full path for bash (or whatever other shell you name)
Also, that path needs to be listed in /etc/shells so you may need
to edit that file as well - using regular vi.

 -i means interactive.

Yes, it is unnecessary though.
What I meant is I don't know if you could use the -i in the passwd file.
But, you don't nead it anyway.  It is redundant.

jerry

 mess-mate
 
 On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:22:54 -0400 (EDT)
 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Hello,
  sorry but i'm more confortable with bash, 
 
 Oh, that's so sad...
 
 so 
  how can i obtain my bash -i on the login ?
  (Without doing a 'bash -i' after the login.)
 
 Just change the login shell in the /etc/passwd file.
 use vipw(8) to edit the /etc/passwd file and replace the last field
 with /usr/local/bin/bash   (or whatever its full path is)
  (don't edit /etc/passwd with regular vi or vim or emacs or 
  whatever, use vipw to make sure it locks things correctly and
  updates the database when needed)
 
 I have never tried using a flag on the shell in the /etc/passwrd file
 so I don't know what the -i will do to it.   You might have to add
 some quoting.
 
 You can also use chsh(1) to make the edit.
 
 jerry
 
  
  Thanks for your help.
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Re: bash = default

2004-09-03 Thread Bill Moran
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Thank, i'll try it.
 
 tis easy.
 Either vipw or chsh will do it fine.  But, you need to use
 the full path for bash (or whatever other shell you name)
 Also, that path needs to be listed in /etc/shells so you may need
 to edit that file as well - using regular vi.

Note two things for reference.  If you install bash from the ports,
it is automagically added to /etc/shells, and it is installed in
/usr/local/bin/bash

HTH

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Re: Tape drive

2004-09-03 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Joe Stuart wrote:
 
  I'm trying to backup to tape, but everything I try I get device not
  configured.
 
  tar -c /home/joe
  tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Device not configured
 
  mt -f /dev/sa0 rewind
  mt: /dev/sa0: Device not configured
 
  The device is on and loaded with tapes. Below is the output that is in
  the messages log when the server boots, so I'm assuming the server sees
  the tape drive alright. Any help is appreciated.
 
 tapes plural? Its a jukebox/changer? If so then the problem is that 
 you haven't completed the process to cause a tape to load in the drive. 
 Can't help other than recommending the man page for ch(4).
 
 I have a similar Archive SCSI DAT drive which produces the same Device 
 not configured message when a tape is not loaded, or not yet ready 
 after being inserted.

I will add my 'me too' here.  On some machines, we get that with
various models of DAT drives.   Generally, though, it is with our
program that writes a header file directly to the tape before
the backup.   Then, if I switch it to use tar to write the header
file, it works OK.   But, sometimes even the tar won't write.
I really suspect there is some weirdness in the driver vs the 
controller for some tape drives that isn't handled well.  But, I
am not up to tinking the drivers.

jerry

 
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Re: Moving MySQL database

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 04:40:04PM +0100, Peter Risdon wrote:
 Matthew Seaman wrote:

   iii) Move the database files to their new location, taking care to
preserve ownership, permissions, timestamps etc.
 
 
 Might a cp -p be slightly more cautious/paranoid until step vi has been 
 completed?

vi) Restart the mysql server.  Verify that your data survived the
move.

Absolutely.  I was kind of assuming that anyone would automatically
take a backup before doing anything of this nature.  Perhaps I should
have spelt that out.

Cheers,

Matthew 

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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread E. Eusey
On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:34 pm, Dan Finn wrote:
 [ root @ stewie : /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade] : portupgrade ruby
 [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'] [Updating the portsdb
 format:bdb1_btree in /usr/ports ... - 11725 port entries found
 .1000.2000.3000.4000.5000.6
000.7000.8000/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.r
b:587: [BUG] Bus Error
 ruby 1.8.1 (2004-05-02) [i386-freebsd5]

 Abort trap (core dumped)

 Any ideas what could be causing this?  I recently installed portindex
 and have been using that to generate indexes after reading someone
 suggestion on one of the fbsd mailing lists.  I don't think I have
 made any other changes recently.
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I hate to add a me too, but, well, me too.  I'm running 5.2.1-RELEASE, not 
running portindex, and didn't have trouble until the instructions 
from /usr/ports/UPDATING.  Haven't tried to move and re-cvsup /usr/ports.  
Anyone else have success via this route?

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RE: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread Steve Hodgson
 
 I hate to add a me too, but, well, me too.  I'm running
 5.2.1-RELEASE, not
 running portindex, and didn't have trouble until the instructions
 from /usr/ports/UPDATING.  Haven't tried to move and re-cvsup
 /usr/ports. Anyone else have success via this route?
 
 Evan

Nope, didn't work for me

I've deinstalled kde,gnome,ruby and portupgrade (and now reinstalled them).
I've removed the ports tree and that didn't work. Given that it appears to
be a problem in the ports tree (someone [sorry, I've deleted the email] said
they have narrowed it down), I was planning on leaving it for now and just
cvsupping regularly.

Not much help I guess

Steve

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Re: driver : Promise SATA150 TX2/TX4 Serial ATA/150

2004-09-03 Thread Gordon Freeman
I don't think there is one. SATA support is pretty much limited to the
FreeBSD 5.x branch.


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 04:39:14 +0800, Ben Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Sir
 
 our system need using FreeBsd 4.10, but it don't have driver for Promise
 SATA150 TX4
 Can anyone give the driver
 
 Regards
 
 Ben
 
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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 08:18:04PM +0100, Steve Hodgson wrote:

 I've removed the ports tree and that didn't work. Given that it appears to
 be a problem in the ports tree (someone [sorry, I've deleted the email] said
 they have narrowed it down), I was planning on leaving it for now and just
 cvsupping regularly.

That would be me:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2004-September/015847.html

It's an odd one all right -- whatever it is that is blowing portsdb's
tiny mind is not at all obvious.  There doesn't appear to be any
problems with any of the ports modified around the time that ruby
started dumping core.

Cheers,

Matthew

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error compiling kernel

2004-09-03 Thread messmate
Hello,
to setup the pf firewall had to compile 
a new kernel.
So added the options, compile and get this error :
gensetdefs:  kern_synch.o: not an ELF file
gensetdefs:  sys.pipe.o:  not an ELF ile
*** ERROR code 1
What could this mean ?
Running release 4.10
Any help would be very appreciated.
mess-mate
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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread kstewart
On Friday 03 September 2004 12:38 pm, Matthew Seaman wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 08:18:04PM +0100, Steve Hodgson wrote:
  I've removed the ports tree and that didn't work. Given that it appears
  to be a problem in the ports tree (someone [sorry, I've deleted the
  email] said they have narrowed it down), I was planning on leaving it for
  now and just cvsupping regularly.

 That would be me:


 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2004-September/015847.html

 It's an odd one all right -- whatever it is that is blowing portsdb's
 tiny mind is not at all obvious.  There doesn't appear to be any
 problems with any of the ports modified around the time that ruby
 started dumping core.


I am only seeing it on 5.3-beta. I use portindex to genereate INDEX on my 4.x 
machines and ruby isn't dumping on them.

Kent

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Re: ports vs source

2004-09-03 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:26:11 +0300
Cristi Tauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello there,
   Can anyone tell me which are the avantages of installing from
   ports
 rather than installing from tar balls ? I am kind of new to BSD, and
 I'm familiar with linux install from tar  stuff. I know to give the
 switches to configure to tune the source for installation ... but
 how i can find the parameters for port install ? I mean ... let's
 say i want to install php and i have to give the path to mysql,
 apache and others graphical libraries ... how can I do that with
 ports ? 

The ability to squeze the absolute max out using /etc/make.conf  is
what I love about ports.

CPUTYPE?=athlon-xp
CFLAGS= -O -m3dnow -msse -mmmx  -pipe
CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized -m3dnow -msse -mmmx

or something like that ^_^

afaik all packages for 4x defualt to i386 and on 5x i486 so there is
less optimizations... for something there is no noticeable
differneces... for something there are...  my suggestion is to make
sure stuff that eats cpu time is optimized... 

man ports
man make.conf
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Re: getting off windows

2004-09-03 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 11:42:29 -0400
David Litster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a windows machine and I am trying to figure out how to
 replace the windows with freebsd.  how do I do this?


Read the freebsd handbook...
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

if you have no unix experience be sure to read
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html

once you learn it you will love it :)  unix makes every thing easy ^_^
no tedious mucking about with a unwieldy mouse and you can do any
thing how you want to and not how some one things you want to do
something...


when it comes to a graphical interface check out http://xwinman.org/
and http://www.freebsd.org/ports/x11-wm.html

Just play around with those till you find one that fits you...

just remember man is your friend and with man and the handbook you
will nearly all ways find what you want :)  and if you don't then ask
:)

enjoy! :)
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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread Nico Meijer
Hey Kent,
I am only seeing it on 5.3-beta. I use portindex to genereate INDEX on my 4.x 
machines and ruby isn't dumping on them.
One of my 4.10-p2 servers exhibited the same behaviour with portsdb -u 
(after 'make index' in /usr/ports).

Haven't touched the rest, yet... ;-)
Kaboom, it said... Nico
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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread kstewart
On Friday 03 September 2004 01:04 pm, Nico Meijer wrote:
 Hey Kent,

  I am only seeing it on 5.3-beta. I use portindex to genereate INDEX on my
  4.x machines and ruby isn't dumping on them.

 One of my 4.10-p2 servers exhibited the same behaviour with portsdb -u
 (after 'make index' in /usr/ports).

 Haven't touched the rest, yet... ;-)

 Kaboom, it said... Nico

I have been following the comments. I thought that is was strange that it only 
happended for me on 5.3-beta. I have a very different mix of ports on 5.x and 
your environment affects the make index. My cvsup mirror updates at 30 
minutes after the hour  on the odd numbered hours and so what I was using was 
the same mirror state on 4.x and 5.x.

FWIW, a make fetchindex on 5.x also died. Something has happened that is 
beyond Kris' test  script.

kent

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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

2004-09-03 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Friday 03 September 2004 01:04 pm, Nico Meijer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Kent,

  I am only seeing it on 5.3-beta. I use portindex to genereate INDEX
  on my 4.x machines and ruby isn't dumping on them.

 One of my 4.10-p2 servers exhibited the same behaviour with portsdb
 -u (after 'make index' in /usr/ports).

 Haven't touched the rest, yet... ;-)

 Kaboom, it said... Nico

FYI, I'm running 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9. Still getting the error from a cvsup 
done at 9am today, as well as last night. Don't have time to do another 
at the moment, but hope someone can figure this out.

- jt
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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Hugo Silva
I've had a 4.8 server with 280 days uptime, then the motherboard burned :/

I try never to reboot my servers, only when critical security updates are
issued. The reason for this is I work with shell providers mostly, and the
uptime is a big factor for the clients.

But of course, if choosing to reboot  apply a patch or let the server
unpatched with a possible root vulnerability, I'll go for the reboot
anytime.


 --On Friday, September 03, 2004 10:55:09 AM -0400 Bill Moran
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Most of the servers I manage (which are all intended for 24/7 access)
 see about 3 months between reboots.  That's an average.  Some servers
 are more aggresively updated than others, and are rebooted more often.

 The fun part (for me) is that this is all _scheduled_ downtime.  For
 the potentialtech.com server (for example) has about 3 hours of
 unscheduled downtime since Jan 1.  And that downtime is the result
 of a failed UPS at the colo facility.  It has 0 unscheduled downtime
 due to software issues.

 Well, if you're ruling out scheduled downtime, I have a box that's never
 been down since it was purchased four years ago.  :-)

 'Course it started out as a RH 7.2 box, and now it's a FreeBSD 4.9 box,
 but
 it's never had a single minute of unscheduled downtime. :-)

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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 9:45 AM +0100 9/3/04, Andy Holyer wrote:
I explained that generally some upgrade comes along that requires
a reboot, but I realized that I don't know how long a box would
stay up in the maximum. So, come on, this should be fun, what's
the biggest uptime you've ever had for a BSD box?
I don't think it would ever require a reboot.  The question is
whether you need to reboot to apply some prudent updates and
security fixes.
I have one server that I try to keep up as much as possible.  The
three longest runs on that machine are:
   373 days 10 hours, ending in July 2000  (long power outage)
   599 days 14 hours, ending in Sept 2002  (UPS failure)
   497 days 18 hours, ending in Apr  2004  (disk failure)
The first one ended because a power-station going into campus was
flooded (due to some construction in the area), and the building
did not have any power for about four hours.  My UPS lasted about
three and a half hours before giving out.
The second one was that the UPS itself melted down!  Well, it did
not quite melt, but it was seriously overheating and I had to
shutdown all the machines connected to it and unplug everything.
The UPS was literally too hot for me to touch, and once it cooled
down enough (which took about four hours), I could see that the
battery had started to melt.
The third was a disk problem, but I also believe it was a OS error
because the disk *getting* the error was one I should have been
able to ignore.  However the OS was confused over which disk got
the error, and it kept resetting the disk-controller for the main
system disk, instead of the one for the disk which had the errors.
So, I suspect the fault for that reboot is half hardware and half
the OS itself.
If you are going for long up times, then the stupidest thing you
can do is install it and forget it.  While I have long uptimes
on this machine, I also have only a few network services running,
and there are only two or three people who can log onto the
machine (and I trust them).  I use the ports collection to keep
many things up-to-date, and for some things in the base system
(like sendmail), I recompile them on a different machine and
then copy the pieces over to this server.  So, I manage to apply
the vast majority of security fixes, even though I do not reboot
and I do not have to stop/restart the main service that this
machine provides.
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Re: Way OT: How long does your box run for?

2004-09-03 Thread Bill Moran
Hugo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've had a 4.8 server with 280 days uptime, then the motherboard burned :/
 
 I try never to reboot my servers, only when critical security updates are
 issued. The reason for this is I work with shell providers mostly, and the
 uptime is a big factor for the clients.

It's interesting that the software is more reliable than the hardware.

This comes up on the PostgreSQL lists a lot.  A vast majority of the
data corruption problems that people report turn out to be hardware
failures.  PostgreSQL is actually several orders of magnitude more
reliable than the average box it runs on.  FreeBSD is the same way,
in my experience.

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