Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?
Well, I understand your concern. I've been using the freebsd-update method since several years now and mostly remotely. I've never encounter a problem. I haven't recompiled everything many times as I didn't really found a tangible advantage in this method but I've never thought about this. I believe some developer around here can provide you a neat explanation about that (which is going to be interesting to know). Strictly about your concern I believe whatever way you use for your upgrade you CANNOT be 100% sure that your upgrade will go smoothly and things like loosing control of your remote box will not happen. Even though jumping from close releases 9.0 = 9.1 is a low risk upgrade, a console access to your remote server (via terminal server/KVM/other) is imperative in these cases to avoid the worst. On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 16:50 +0100, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote: El lunes 31 de diciembre a las 16:27:44 CET, ASV escribió: Hi Jose, with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system. Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these directly on your system. Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade your kernel to a major version (which would be your case). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Happy new year. Thanks for your response. The freebsd-update upgrade method is: 1- freebsd-update install # will install a new kernel and modules 2- reboot in multi user 3- freebsd-update install # will install new userland 4- reboot in multi user The src upgrade method is: 1- make installkernel # will install a new kernel 2- reboot in single user 3- make installworld # will install a new userland 4- reboot in multiuser I think that the third step is essentially the same in both methods: it will install a new userland. But the second one require to be ran in single user, and the first one does not. Why? My unique concern is that step 2 in freebsd-update method goes smootly: it will boot kernel in 9.1-RELEASE but userland in 9.0-RELEASE. If the system hangs giving up the net or other essential service, I will not be able to reach the computer via ssh. Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?
For some reason my email hasn't apparently been delivered so I'm re-sending it. From: ASV a...@inhio.eu To: Jose Garcia Juanino jjuan...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject:Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore? Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:19:19 +0100| Well, I understand your concern. I've been using the freebsd-update method since several years now and mostly remotely. I've never encounter a problem. I haven't recompiled everything many times as I didn't really found a tangible advantage in this method but I've never thought about this. I believe some developer around here can provide you a neat explanation about that (which is going to be interesting to know). Strictly about your concern I believe whatever way you use for your upgrade you CANNOT be 100% sure that your upgrade will go smoothly and things like loosing control of your remote box will not happen. Even though jumping from close releases 9.0 = 9.1 is a low risk upgrade, a console access to your remote server (via terminal server/KVM/other) is imperative in these cases to avoid the worst. On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 16:50 +0100, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote: El lunes 31 de diciembre a las 16:27:44 CET, ASV escribió: Hi Jose, with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system. Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these directly on your system. Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade your kernel to a major version (which would be your case). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Happy new year. Thanks for your response. The freebsd-update upgrade method is: 1- freebsd-update install # will install a new kernel and modules 2- reboot in multi user 3- freebsd-update install # will install new userland 4- reboot in multi user The src upgrade method is: 1- make installkernel # will install a new kernel 2- reboot in single user 3- make installworld # will install a new userland 4- reboot in multiuser I think that the third step is essentially the same in both methods: it will install a new userland. But the second one require to be ran in single user, and the first one does not. Why? My unique concern is that step 2 in freebsd-update method goes smootly: it will boot kernel in 9.1-RELEASE but userland in 9.0-RELEASE. If the system hangs giving up the net or other essential service, I will not be able to reach the computer via ssh. Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?
Hi Jose, with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system. Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these directly on your system. Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade your kernel to a major version (which would be your case). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Happy new year. On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 13:13 +0100, Jose Garcia Juanino wrote: Hi, I am planning to upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE to FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE. With upgrade source method, it is always needed to do the make installworld step in single user mode. But it seems to be that single user is not required with freebsd-update method, in the second freebsd-update install. Someone could explain the reason? Am I misunderstanding something? Can I run the upgrade enterely by mean a ssh connection in a safe way, or will I need a serial console? Best regards, and excuse my poor english. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question about freebsd-update: single user mode is not needed anymore?
El lunes 31 de diciembre a las 16:27:44 CET, ASV escribió: Hi Jose, with the freebsd-update method you don't need to pass through the make installworld as it's a binary patch/upgrade system. Using freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE for example allows you to get your system patched directly without recompiling the kernel and the userland but getting binary patches from the repo and applying these directly on your system. Check the following page for a more detailed explanation and be aware that upgrading your ports/packages is required every time you upgrade your kernel to a major version (which would be your case). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Happy new year. Thanks for your response. The freebsd-update upgrade method is: 1- freebsd-update install # will install a new kernel and modules 2- reboot in multi user 3- freebsd-update install # will install new userland 4- reboot in multi user The src upgrade method is: 1- make installkernel # will install a new kernel 2- reboot in single user 3- make installworld # will install a new userland 4- reboot in multiuser I think that the third step is essentially the same in both methods: it will install a new userland. But the second one require to be ran in single user, and the first one does not. Why? My unique concern is that step 2 in freebsd-update method goes smootly: it will boot kernel in 9.1-RELEASE but userland in 9.0-RELEASE. If the system hangs giving up the net or other essential service, I will not be able to reach the computer via ssh. Regards pgpbaloy3DIlu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote: The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier versions of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron logs show that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A very common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command line? If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment that the scripts need. I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs. I had: /home/walterh/exports.sh /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh which should of course have been: /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry for wasting your time. Sorry! WH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On 6/13/2012 6:23 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:21:31 -0500, Dan Lists wrote: The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier versions of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron logs show that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A very common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command line? If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment that the scripts need. I'm a complete idiot, and I feel embarrassed. Everything was fine, except that I had missed out '/bin' in the paths of the jobs. I had: /home/walterh/exports.sh /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh which should of course have been: /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_etc.sh /home/walterh/bin/systemcheck.sh /home/walterh/bin/backup_bsd.sh What a stupid mistake! Thanks for all the replies, but I must say sorry for wasting your time. Sorry! WH ... Damned those full path names. -- Keep well, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On 11/06/2012 23:10, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash Pitfall: Even if bash is installed, it's not usually under /bin, but under /usr/local/bin PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
Mark Felder f...@feld.me writes: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. I don't have ready access to source at the moment, but I would expect (like the normal C I/O functions) it will be interpreted as octal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:36:37 -0500, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: I don't have ready access to source at the moment, but I would expect (like the normal C I/O functions) it will be interpreted as octal. Suppose we could always ask Paul Vixie :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. There are some specific interpretations that _may_ be interpreted according to the C rules, e. g. prefix 0x- for hexadecimal or 08- for octal notation. For example, 083 != 83, just as 0x83 != 83. As it has been mentioned, spaces also have a significant meaning in crontabs, so they cannot be used everywhere to align data columns. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:29:02 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:06:21 -0500, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. Any other info on this? I've never heard of this before and I've never seen an issue using leading zeroes on the minutes value. There are some specific interpretations that _may_ be interpreted according to the C rules, e. g. prefix 0x- for hexadecimal or 08- for octal notation. For example, 083 != 83, just as 0x83 != 83. As it has been mentioned, spaces also have a significant meaning in crontabs, so they cannot be used everywhere to align data columns. The syntax of his crontab file is correct. Vixie cron does care about leading spaces, tabs, extra spaces, or leading zeros. Earlier versions of cron are much pickier about the crontab file. The cron logs show that it is starting his jobs at the correct times. It is far more likely that there is a problem with the scripts. A very common cause of problems with scripts run from cron is that they do not inherit your environment. Do the scripts run from the command line? If the do, then the problem is most likely something in your environment that the scripts need. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? Thanks for the quick response. $ pkg_info|grep bash bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell $ which bash /bin/bash $ $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh #!/bin/bash LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started echo Exports started at `date` $LOG rm $HOME/postgresql/* psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql cd $HOME/postgresql tar cfz postgresql.tgz * rm *csv echo Exports finished at `date` $LOG logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: cat /etc/shells ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:21:12 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: You really have bash in /bin ? Are your scripts executable? What does /var/log/cron say? $ file /bin/bash /bin/bash: symbolic link to `/usr/local/bin/bash' $ sudo tail -50 /var/log/cron (result snipped at 02:22:00 for brevity) Jun 12 01:55:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1780]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1823]: (root) CMD (newsyslog) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1825]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1824]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:00:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1836]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/exports.sh) Jun 12 02:01:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1849]: (root) CMD (adjkerntz -a) Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1874]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:05:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1875]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/backup_etc.sh) Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1912]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:10:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1913]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/systemcheck.sh) Jun 12 02:11:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1924]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1981]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:15:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[1982]: (walterh) CMD (/home/ walterh/backup_bsd.sh) Jun 12 02:20:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2013]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/ atrun) Jun 12 02:22:00 jupiter /usr/sbin/cron[2025]: (operator) CMD (/usr/ libexec/save-entropy) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:36:28 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: cat /etc/shells $ cat /etc/shells # $FreeBSD: release/9.0.0/etc/shells 59717 2000-04-27 21:58:46Z ache $ # # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/rbash $ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
On 6/11/2012 9:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:10:21 -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: Have you installed bash? It's not in the system base. What's in your shell scripts? Thanks for the quick response. $ pkg_info|grep bash bash-4.2.28 The GNU Project's Bourne Again SHell $ which bash /bin/bash $ $ less $HOME/bin/exports.sh #!/bin/bash LOG=$HOME/log/exports.log logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports started echo Exports started at `date` $LOG rm $HOME/postgresql/* psql packages -f $HOME/sql/exports.sql cd $HOME/postgresql tar cfz postgresql.tgz * rm *csv echo Exports finished at `date` $LOG logger -t walterh-cronjob Exports finished /home/walterh/bin/exports.sh (END) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I tend to use full path names in my shell scripts. So for shits n giggles, try that. Instead of tar cfz postgresql.tgz * Try /bin/tar cfz postgresql.tgz * etc, etc, etc Use the paths for all commands such as rm, psql, logger etc. -- Keep well, Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Newbie question: Why aren't my cron jobs running?
Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject says, this is probably a newbie question (I am new to FreeBSD but quite experienced at Linux). FreeBSD9 on x86_64. Cron is running: $ ps -ax|grep cron 1513 ?? Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/cron -s 2283 0 S+ 0:00.00 grep cron $ I have a syntactically valid crontab: 'Syntactically valid', yes, but I believe it does not mean what you think it does applies. more below. $ crontab -l #min hr dom month dow command SHELL=/bin/bash PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/ daddy/bin HOME=/home/walterh 00 02 * * * /home/walterh/exports.sh 05 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_etc.sh 10 02 * * * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh 15 02 * * * /home/walterh/backup_bsd.sh $ So what is wrong? Why is nothing happening? I have consulted the handbook but see nothing. It _appears_ that there is whitespace _before_ the purporte 'minutes' value on each line that you intend to invoke a command. If so, -THAT- is probably what is causinng the unexpected behavior. I believe cron is looking for the 'minutes' value _before_ any white space, and using a value of '0' when it finds 'nothing' before the white-space Field-separator. That, thus, the all the commands run at 'zero minutes' past the various hours, on the -second- day of the month, and that command-line that cron would -attempt- to execute on the 2nd looks like, * /home/walterh/systemcheck.sh, which, of course will have *wildly* unexpected results, epecially if the first element of the '*' expansion _is_ marked as executable. Remove the leading white-space and things should work the way you 'expect'. Comment: using a leading zero on the numeric fields is a BAD IDEA(tm) -- you are *strongly* encocuraged to remove them. Yes, that means numbers will not be column aligned, but it is a small price to pay to avoid the hair-tearing that =will= ensue when using it bites you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
boot-time daemon startup (was Re: Newbie question)
Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is fine There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never remembered and forgot that I never knew it. Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels. Any reason you're not installing it from the port? Someone has already done the porting effort for you. FreeBSD doesn't use runlevels in that sense, but it does have a fairly involved rc.d facility. Try man rc.d. So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is there or what it is doing). Presumably you installed webmin from the ports system? I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively using FBSD but am looking to get back into it. That's okay; things haven't stayed static in the FreeBSD world anyway. Rc.d anyone? On FreeBSD? Everyone, pretty much. My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct? No. inetd isn't even started these days unless you override FreeBSD's defaults on purpose. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all; Quick newbie question. I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is fine There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never remembered and forgot that I never knew it. Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels. So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is there or what it is doing). I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively using FBSD but am looking to get back into it. Rc.d anyone? My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct? Thanks Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No FreeBSD uses rc.d it's where the rc.d actually came from. for ports it's /usr/local/etc/rc.d for system scripts it's /etc/rc.d ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does. By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from source. portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes. -Steve I tried portinstall, although dependecies are install with port sources still. It take me a whole afternoon to portinstall math/py-neworkx, and it still doesn't complete as yet. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:14 +0800, Canhua wrote: Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install using ports means. Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be install from ports while not able to be added from package system? Am I right? The package name of this port is 'py25-networkx'. You can use the Freshports.org search to find the package names. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thiago R. Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:18 PM, Thiago R. Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:14 +0800, Canhua wrote: Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install using ports means. Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be install from ports while not able to be added from package system? Am I right? The package name of this port is 'py25-networkx'. You can use the Freshports.org search to find the package names. Wonderful place~ thank you However I could not pkg_add py25-networkx still, being told that pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py25-networkx.tbz' by URL ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:41 +0800, Canhua wrote: Wonderful place~ thank you However I could not pkg_add py25-networkx still, being told that pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py25-networkx.tbz' by URL Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that you wanted a package built for 7.0-RELEASE. Indeed, there isn't a package of this port built for this release, so you might want to get packages from the 'packages-7-stable' directory[1][2]. This particular port seems to have been added to the ports tree after the release of FreeBSD 7.0. Of course, you can build it yourself from your ports tree. [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html [2]ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/Latest/ -- Thiago R. Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Steven Susbauer
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ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and
ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does.
By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and
dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from
source.
portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help
with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes.
-Steve
I tried portinstall, although dependecies are install with port sources
still.
It take me a whole afternoon to portinstall math/py-neworkx, and it
still doesn't complete as yet.
Go to sleep! it will be ready in the morning maybe! {:)
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Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote: Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install using ports means. Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be install from ports while not able to be added from package system? Am I right? Correct -- not every port has a package. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about pkg_add
Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:14:34AM +0800, Canhua wrote: Hi, good day all. I am new to FreeBSD. I tried to pkg_add -r a package (py-networkx), which tell me that: Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/ FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7.0-release/Latest/py-networkx.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) although I know that py-network does exist in /usr/ports. Actually I could go to /usr/ports/math/py-networkx and make install using ports means. Then I could learn from this that there are softwares that could be install from ports while not able to be added from package system? Am I right? Correct -- not every port has a package. ports-mgmt/portupgrade is a useful tool for easily getting packages and ports, it includes the tool portinstall which does what it says it does. By running portinstall -P pkgname, it will install a port and dependencies with packages if available, otherwise they are built from source. portsman and portmanager are some other frontend tools that can help with package administration, it's really up to your own tastes. -Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address. Don't forget to run newaliases(1) after editing the file. Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will go to you. Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From: of those e-mails not the To: ? -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174 Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave. pgpTl4XpfObMZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
-Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address. Don't forget to run newaliases(1) after editing the file. Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will go to you. Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From: of those e-mails not the To: ? -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174 Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave. ~~~ Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to redirect all mails externally... The problem I have is with the from... Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I have 4 machines: Machine1.mydomain.com Machine2.mydomain.com Machine3.mydomain.com Machine4.mydomain.com I want the mail from to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Not too sure where to look into to fix this ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
On 5/16/07, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address. Don't forget to run newaliases(1) after editing the file. Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will go to you. Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From: of those e-mails not the To: ? -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174 Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave. ~~~ Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to redirect all mails externally... The problem I have is with the from... Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I have 4 machines: Machine1.mydomain.com Machine2.mydomain.com Machine3.mydomain.com Machine4.mydomain.com I want the mail from to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Not too sure where to look into to fix this ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try checking /etc/rc.conf for your hostname var. Also, /etc/hosts ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
On 2007-05-16 03:21, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address. Don't forget to run newaliases(1) after editing the file. Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will go to you. Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From: of those e-mails not the To: ? Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to redirect all mails externally... The problem I have is with the from... Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I have 4 machines: Machine1.mydomain.com Machine2.mydomain.com Machine3.mydomain.com Machine4.mydomain.com I want the mail from to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have to enable 'masquerading' and (optionally) `genericstable' for this sort of email address rewriting to work. Here's a commented/example sendmail.mc snippet for that: dnl Address masquerading. dnl dnl Making sure that all email that passes through my desktop's dnl Sendmail installation is masqueraded as coming from dnl `kobe.laptop', even if its original address is something dnl slightly different (i.e. `ftp.laptop' or `mail.laptop'), is ok dnl here. It ensures that address rewriting and translation through dnl `genericstable' will also work for all `*.laptop' host names. dnl dnl To make sure that remote hosts don't get a MAIL FROM address dnl from a hostname that doesn't resolve, envelope addresses are dnl masqueraded here too, and then get rewritten by `genericstable' dnl to real-world addresses. dnl MASQUERADE_AS(`kobe.laptop') FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') dnl Rewriting the envelope-from address of all outgoing messages dnl through a `genericstable' lookup ensures that envelope-from dnl addresses seen by relay hosts are real, i.e. have an address dnl of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of the default dnl envelope-from of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' that Sendmail would use. dnl dnl This is required some times, to avoid getting bounces for dnl messages from ISP mail relays that are misconfigured or are too dnl strict about what can appear in a MAIL FROM command. dnl FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') GENERICS_DOMAIN(`kobe.laptop') FEATURE(`generics_entire_domain') Here `kobe.laptop' is my laptop's hostname, and I have enabled address rewriting for some local email addresses by: % cat /etc/mail/genericstable # # Address rewriting of outgoing email messages. # [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] % You will have to use a similar setup to change the envelope-from and header-from address of the outgoing messages your mail server sends. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
Thanks a lot, it works perfectly. I'm starting to think it was not that much of a newbie question since you are the first one to give a working answer :) Thanks again -Original Message- From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 12:22 To: Ian Lord Cc: 'Oliver Peter'; 'Jerry McAllister'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... On 2007-05-16 03:21, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address. Don't forget to run newaliases(1) after editing the file. Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will go to you. Hhm. I thought the problem was that you would like to change the From: of those e-mails not the To: ? Exactly... I receive the emails since I correctly configured my aliases to redirect all mails externally... The problem I have is with the from... Someone told me to change the hostname in rc.conf, that won't work since I have 4 machines: Machine1.mydomain.com Machine2.mydomain.com Machine3.mydomain.com Machine4.mydomain.com I want the mail from to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] not [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have to enable 'masquerading' and (optionally) `genericstable' for this sort of email address rewriting to work. Here's a commented/example sendmail.mc snippet for that: dnl Address masquerading. dnl dnl Making sure that all email that passes through my desktop's dnl Sendmail installation is masqueraded as coming from dnl `kobe.laptop', even if its original address is something dnl slightly different (i.e. `ftp.laptop' or `mail.laptop'), is ok dnl here. It ensures that address rewriting and translation through dnl `genericstable' will also work for all `*.laptop' host names. dnl dnl To make sure that remote hosts don't get a MAIL FROM address dnl from a hostname that doesn't resolve, envelope addresses are dnl masqueraded here too, and then get rewritten by `genericstable' dnl to real-world addresses. dnl MASQUERADE_AS(`kobe.laptop') FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain') FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') dnl Rewriting the envelope-from address of all outgoing messages dnl through a `genericstable' lookup ensures that envelope-from dnl addresses seen by relay hosts are real, i.e. have an address dnl of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of the default dnl envelope-from of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' that Sendmail would use. dnl dnl This is required some times, to avoid getting bounces for dnl messages from ISP mail relays that are misconfigured or are too dnl strict about what can appear in a MAIL FROM command. dnl FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable') GENERICS_DOMAIN(`kobe.laptop') FEATURE(`generics_entire_domain') Here `kobe.laptop' is my laptop's hostname, and I have enabled address rewriting for some local email addresses by: % cat /etc/mail/genericstable # # Address rewriting of outgoing email messages. # [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] % You will have to use a similar setup to change the envelope-from and header-from address of the outgoing messages your mail server sends. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Did you set up your hostname correctly in /etc/rc.conf ? Furthermore you need to tell your MTA how your hostname is called. -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174 Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave. pgpxSWBHHr9XK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address. Don't forget to run newaliases(1) after editing the file. Of course, doing this will mean that all mail to root will go to you. jerry Did you set up your hostname correctly in /etc/rc.conf ? Furthermore you need to tell your MTA how your hostname is called. -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ# 113969174 Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:26:36 -0400
Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The problem, is that the mail is coming from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have a spamfirewall and it rejects the mail saying localhost.mydomain.com
is invalid.
Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
Hi Ian,
set your hostname in /etc/rc.conf:
it probably wouldn't hurt either to have name resolution properly setup (either
via DNS or hosts file)
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Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection
there's always the shells, bash for example -- - John F Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 10/6/06, John Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's always the shells, bash for example asciiquarium is a good start. *A Must* -- Tyop? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection
On 10/6/06, ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install on my stand-alone machine. The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet; however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two (2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them. I would like to select one, two or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if there is such a thing). I'm not sure how familiar you are with Unis operating systems or the various tools available for all of it's incarnations, so, I'm listing these with info as if you were completely new to it. If you are not, I do not mean any insult or offense, I just don't know your level of experience, so I'm going for something relatively low that would give you a wide range of sights and sounds in the desktop *nix world. If you aren't /that/ new, just look at my list, and pick and choose your favorites. Ideally, you would want to install ports that you could make use of more than ports that are small. Even the larges ports rarely cause me issues. For small starts: bash - already suggested, very good shell nano - light weight and useful text editor pico - like nano, but made before or after, can't remember which vim - again, already suggested, good text editor, though not to my taste. It is lightweight and fast, though not to the extent of pico/nano. sudoku - I prefer pencil and paper because you can make notes, but it's fun naim - a console IM program intermediate projects: emacs - another popular editor, the largest (in size, not popularity - don't know what is the most popular) of the bunch, but I know people who get a lot of work done only starting one program *ever*, this is that program. It uses a large amount of resources for just a text editor, but you can do a lot more with it, and on a modern machine, that large amount is still relatively neglegable. xorg - an X (graphics) server, which will be extremely useful if you want more than a console command prompt. gaim - a multi-im client. quite useful, it could actually be in small projects, but you need X installed before hand. gnome - this is between intermediate and larger projects, a good and popular desktop/session manager, again, not to my taste, for as much smaller as it is, it runs slower than KDE on my systems. Nonetheless, a lot of people like it, and you should give it a try. * - Just about anything in the games directory Big projects KDE - like gnome, but more friendly to the people who like gui configuration, less friendly to those who like text configuration. I find it faster, but that could be because I have a lot of memory on all my machines - it's definetly larger. Might be the whole space for speed tradeoff that you can sometimes do, I don't know. Regardless, be prepared for a challange, you may not (read: probably won't) be able to get the full KDE running due to some apps not compiling. Read the updating file, and you may have to try kde-lite. openoffice.org-2.0 - a nice office suit, be prepared for a challange! Now, you may need a few java packages that won't be on the CDs for this - which you'll have to download elsewhere and put on either a CD or a flash drive. Have fun, -Jim Stapleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:14:29PM -0400, ograbme wrote: I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install on my stand-alone machine. The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet; however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two (2) of the CD's have 'ports' on them. I would like to select one, two or three ports to install on this machine ... to go through the steps and experience of the ports process using the cdroms, so ... in essence I'm looking for suggestions of ports of a small nature (if there is such a thing). Geez, what do you want to play with? Pick anything. Maybe a couple of simple games would be a good example or maybe a text editor such as vim. But, your lack of network connection makes coming up with suggestions more difficult. It is no problem if everything is on the CD set. The problem is that so many things have dependancies that may want to go out to the network to get something else to build. I always just have it pull in things over the net, so am not sure how much you can get away with for a just CD install. So, it is hard to think of one without trying it to make sure everything it needs is on the CDs. Some simple game such as xmahjongg or dontspace (a Freecell game) might work OK and not call in to much else. A text editor such as vim may be OK. They all require X, but that should be on the CDs. jerry Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question - what does the ...-p6 mean?
In response to ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello All. Thursday, September 14, 2006, 4:24:43 AM, RJ45 wrote in regards to his message titled Memory problem: snip R I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p6 build with buildworld. snip What does the -p6 nomenclature represent in the above statement? I've noticed some messages have contained various -pX's. I recently just installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p0 (according to -uname command) from a FreeBSD Mall 4-CD set, dated May 2006. Does this -p number represent an updated ?Version? containing new patches or ...? The 'p' is for patch level. See any of the security advisories, for example: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-06:20.bind.asc Patch releases are only made when there are security flaws found or major stability problems fixed. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question: Is this something I should send to buglist?
On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:09, Oliver Iberien wrote: After running portsnap this morning: bsd# pkg_version -v /home/oliver/version.txt Makefile, line 54: Could not find /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/../../print/cups/Makefile.common make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue pkg_version: Failed to get PKGNAME from /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/Makefile! I take it that this means that there is something missing from this part of this port? I looked at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-broken.html and tried querying the data base (and was confused by the options), and searched the mailing list for the string cups-lpr. Nothing -- I think. Anyhow, I'm happy to do my bit and post this somewhere but don't want to start sending badly formatted or unnecessary bug reports around. Any advice? Oliver This message is normal. cups-lpr is a port that no longer exists since the update to 1.2.0 as it has been merged with cups-base. When you update to cups-base 1.2.0_2, you won't get that message. Whether I recommend you update to 1.2.0 is another thing though :) -- FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #11: Sun Jul 30 12:12:59 EDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A PGP? : http://www.clkroot.net/security/nb_root.asc pgpFfo9l04Ss6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie question - cannot add new disk
Thanks for your interest in this. A large part of the problem was in fact a bad cable. I went back and forth between the command line and sysinstall. They seem not to do the same things. It did seem to me that the disklabel in sysinstall and the disklabel command-line tool did not necessarily produce labels that were mutually intelligible. It looks also as if when writing with disklabel in sysinstall, one of the newly created slices has to be highlighted, something not made clear in the Handbook. I ended up making partitions instead of slices, as disklabel did not like what the sysinstall-disklabel produced. Also, the fdisk tool in sysinstall did not always wipe and create new partition entries -- it sometimes just appended new ones, although that is not what it displayed. I needed dd to actually wipe the table and start anew. This seemed to continue despite the new cable. However, I am not exactly a reliable observer, being, as stated, very new to BSD. Oliver On Monday 17 April 2006 09:14, Alex de Kruijff wrote: On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:40:09PM -0700, Oliver Iberien wrote: Hi, I have been trying to add a second IDE hard drive. I can't seem to get it mounted, or to get what I put into sysinstall and what comes out when I use the command line to agree. Are you using the command line interface or sysinstall to configure the disk? This is not clear to me. If you tried sysinstall did it give any errors about the geometry? What did you do at that point? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question - cannot add new disk
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:40:09PM -0700, Oliver Iberien wrote: Hi, I have been trying to add a second IDE hard drive. I can't seem to get it mounted, or to get what I put into sysinstall and what comes out when I use the command line to agree. Are you using the command line interface or sysinstall to configure the disk? This is not clear to me. If you tried sysinstall did it give any errors about the geometry? What did you do at that point? -- Alex Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. Howto's based on my personal use, including information about setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG http://alex.kruijff.org/FreeBSD/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?
The short answer is to backup the files you want to save. As a general rule, I suggest backing up: /etc /usr/local/etc /usr/local/www The last one assumes you have some website(s). If you are also worried about email, if you are using the standard sendmail, also backup: /var/mail I would suggest you create separate compressed tar volumes for your backups, then you can restore them individually if you need to. -Derek At 02:53 AM 4/16/2006, Oliver Iberien wrote: I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a home machine and backing up to a DVD Burner, probably using kdar, the dar archiver that comes with KDE. My question is : which system files to back up, along with my personal stuff? I'm used to using linux distributions that do your system backups for you. The capacity of the DVDs sets a practical limit on what I can reasonably back up, so I need to pick and choose, basically to make recovery easier should everything go south. Thanks! Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?
Oliver Iberien wrote: I'm running FreeBSD 6.0 on a home machine and backing up to a DVD Burner, probably using kdar, the dar archiver that comes with KDE. My question is : which system files to back up, along with my personal stuff? I'm used to using linux distributions that do your system backups for you. The capacity of the DVDs sets a practical limit on what I can reasonably back up, so I need to pick and choose, basically to make recovery easier should everything go south. Thanks! In addition to the: /etc /usr/local/etc /home /var/db that others posted, I find the following useful too: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf - kernel configs /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm - I customize xdm on occasion /boot/device.hints /boot/loader.conf HTH Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question - using sysinstall Upgrade an existing system - easy?
Oliver Iberien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What actually happens when you use Upgrade an existing system in sysinstall? Do you end up with the X-server, etc., all functioning as before, or is there a lot of cleanup to do afterwards? X doesn't get automatically updated by that path; just the base system. So your old X setup should work fine; it will be untouched. Of course, upgrades are *always* a good reason to have an *extra* set of backups. (In my case, this would be from 6.0 to 6.1, whenever the release version of 6.1 comes out. I am getting DMA errors in trying to install a second drive, and posts from this list give the impression that changing versions may make a difference.) It's possible. Not likely, though; among the several more-probable fixes, the Most Likely would be a new IDE cable. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?
Hi Oliver, At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: /etc /usr/local/etc /home That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the software thar you installed from ports. The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other applications might put data in other places, however, so you might want to research the applications that you are running to make sure you don't miss any important data. -Andy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?
At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote: Hi Oliver, At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: /etc /usr/local/etc /home That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the software thar you installed from ports. Actually, no. If you want to backup the software installed from ports you will typically need /usr/local. The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know which ports are installed on the machine among other things. -Glenn The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other applications might put data in other places, however, so you might want to research the applications that you are running to make sure you don't miss any important data. -Andy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?
On Sunday 16 April 2006 09:00, Glenn Dawson wrote: At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote: Hi Oliver, At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: /etc /usr/local/etc /home That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the software thar you installed from ports. Actually, no. If you want to backup the software installed from ports you will typically need /usr/local. The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know which ports are installed on the machine among other things. -Glenn The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other applications might put data in other places, however, so you might want to research the applications that you are running to make sure you don't miss any important data. -Andy. Thanks for all this information. Can /usr/local and /var/db just be copied directly back in after recovery, or (if it's more complicated that that) would there be a tutorial on this somewhere? Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question -- which files to back up?
At 09:08 AM 4/16/2006, Oliver Iberien wrote: On Sunday 16 April 2006 09:00, Glenn Dawson wrote: At 09:58 PM 2/22/2006, Andy Reitz wrote: Hi Oliver, At a minimum, you will probably want to back up the following directories: /etc /usr/local/etc /home That will get all of the configuration files for FreeBSD and the software thar you installed from ports. Actually, no. If you want to backup the software installed from ports you will typically need /usr/local. The contents of /var/db would also be desirable so that you know which ports are installed on the machine among other things. -Glenn The last directory will det all of your user's data. Some other applications might put data in other places, however, so you might want to research the applications that you are running to make sure you don't miss any important data. -Andy. Thanks for all this information. Can /usr/local and /var/db just be copied directly back in after recovery, or (if it's more complicated that that) would there be a tutorial on this somewhere? Generally speaking, /usr/local is empty after a clean install, so simply replacing its contents should be ok. Though keep in mind that some ports put things outside /usr/local so they may not work until other things are restored. /var/db/pkg is the dir you want for restoring the database of installed ports/packages. The other things in /var/db you will probably want to put back as needed instead of all at once. -Glenn Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC
Jim Stapleton wrote: [ ... ] When it comes to changing the default compiler a good rule of thumb is that if you need to ask how to do it, then you should not do it. That seems to be a general *nix world rule of thumb for just about everything... The UNIX world is willing to give you a loaded gun, but we try not to instruct people on how to shoot their own feet without at least giving them a warning that doing so will hurt. :-) -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:43:51AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0, /usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries. That sounds like a bad idea. Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation fails. Yes, a bad idea indeed. Do not try to change the base compiler unless you really know what you are doing. I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do? You should leave the standard compiler alone. If you wish to use the newer compiler invoke it as gcc40 (IIRC), but don't try use it to rebuild FreeBSD itself. Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0 biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc 3.4.x, which is the default gcc install. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC
how do I setup make.conf to automatically use the new compiler? Is there any way to set this new compiler as the default (such as building the OS), without causing issues? Or would that be just a royal pain in the posterior that is not worth the effort? On 4/10/06, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:43:51AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0, /usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries. That sounds like a bad idea. Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation fails. Yes, a bad idea indeed. Do not try to change the base compiler unless you really know what you are doing. I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do? You should leave the standard compiler alone. If you wish to use the newer compiler invoke it as gcc40 (IIRC), but don't try use it to rebuild FreeBSD itself. Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0 biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc 3.4.x, which is the default gcc install. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 11:01:21AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: how do I setup make.conf to automatically use the new compiler? Don't. But if you insist on doing that you could try putting CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc40 CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++40 into /etc/make.conf. Just be aware that it will probably not work very well. Is there any way to set this new compiler as the default (such as building the OS), without causing issues? Not without causing issues, no. Or would that be just a royal pain in the posterior that is not worth the effort? That does sound like a fairly accurate description. When it comes to changing the default compiler a good rule of thumb is that if you need to ask how to do it, then you should not do it. On 4/10/06, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:43:51AM -0400, Jim Stapleton wrote: I did a make install clean in the lang/gcc40/ directory to get a newer version of GCC, and it seems happy, so the next thing I did was I replaced my /usr/bin/gcc, /usr/bin/g++, etc. binaries with hard links to the /usr/local/bin/gcc-freebsd-4.0, /usr/local/bin/g++-freebsd-4.0, etc. binaries. That sounds like a bad idea. Now when I try to make things, I get a lot of errors and most compilation fails. Yes, a bad idea indeed. Do not try to change the base compiler unless you really know what you are doing. I backed up the original binaries (gcc - gcc-original), and things seem to be fixed, and compiles work. What should I do? You should leave the standard compiler alone. If you wish to use the newer compiler invoke it as gcc40 (IIRC), but don't try use it to rebuild FreeBSD itself. Also, the ports install does not make a cc-freebsd-4.0 binary, so I'm leary of replacing it with a hard link to the gcc-freebsd-4.0 biary, although when I run cc --version, it tells me that it is gcc 3.4.x, which is the default gcc install. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC
When it comes to changing the default compiler a good rule of thumb is that if you need to ask how to do it, then you should not do it. That seems to be a general *nix world rule of thumb for just about everything... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question on upgrading GCC
On Monday 10 April 2006 16:01, Jim Stapleton wrote: how do I setup make.conf to automatically use the new compiler? Is there any way to set this new compiler as the default (such as building the OS), without causing issues? Or would that be just a royal pain in the posterior that is not worth the effort? IIRC make buildworld doesn't even use the default compiler directly. It just uses it to bootstrap the build of its own new compiler. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about ports.
On Friday 24 June 2005 19:36, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Sam Ip wrote: I'm trying out FreeBSD for the first time for use at work. However, there is a corporate firewall and hence ftp traffic doesn't get through. I can access http sites. So if a selling point of FreeBSD is its ports collection 1. Can you do a CVSup to update your ports via http? 2. Can you install ports via http? Cvsup does not support http, but neither does it use ftp (see man cvsup, especially the -p and -P options). It requires that a single port be openable through your firewall (default 5999). There is an alternative, which I have never used, called CTM (see handbook). See also sysutils/portsnap which uses http ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about ports.
Sam Ip wrote: I'm trying out FreeBSD for the first time for use at work. However, there is a corporate firewall and hence ftp traffic doesn't get through. I can access http sites. So if a selling point of FreeBSD is its ports collection 1. Can you do a CVSup to update your ports via http? 2. Can you install ports via http? Cvsup does not support http, but neither does it use ftp (see man cvsup, especially the -p and -P options). It requires that a single port be openable through your firewall (default 5999). There is an alternative, which I have never used, called CTM (see handbook). Ftp is required to fetch the source code for ports, but this happens when you try and build a port and has nothing to do with cvsup. The ftp connection used to fetch the sources will be a passive connection which is firewall friendly. There is no reason, beyond pure paranoia or obscene mistrust of employees, for a firewall to block passive-style ftp connections. If I were you, I would ask whoever is in charge of your corporate firewall if they do allow passive ftp, and if they don't, then ask for an explanation why not. If your FreeBSD requirement is business related, then they should be helping you get these basic services working. The firewall can easily limit ftp and cvsup connections to be from a specified IP address, and to a specified IP address. Security implications: none, since far more dangerous things can be carried in to the business on a CD. *If* (and I have no idea about this) there is a server which has the port sources available via HTTP, then you could download them yourself either with a web browser or something like lwp-download (part of the p5-libwww-5.803 perl package, and quite possibly part of the standard perl port). Every time a port fails to fetch a package via ftp, you would have to download it by hand. The ports collection is *one* selling point for FreeBSD (stability, documentation, and just being better than anything else :-) are some others). However, there is no way that you can expect anyone to waste their time to work around what can only be described as demented security restrictions. You might be better off looking for a server which can supply you packages via HTTP. Packages are pre-built ports comparable to Linux RPMs. Just like Linux RPMs you get no choice about any configurations options which the port provides, and are stuck with whatever the package creator used. That's one reason why the ports are so nice. See the pkg_add manual page and the handbook section on ports and packages. Just my 0.02, --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question about ports.
On Friday 24 June 2005 01:01 pm, Sam Ip wrote: Hi, I'm trying out FreeBSD for the first time for use at work. However, there is a corporate firewall and hence ftp traffic doesn't get through. I can access http sites. So if a selling point of FreeBSD is its ports collection 1. Can you do a CVSup to update your ports via http? 2. Can you install ports via http? Thanks! Sam Welcome to FreeBSD! I hope it's a good experience; but be warned that it may be addictive. I **think** the answer to both questions is no since the files you need are on ftp servers. One (fairly expensive) option for you is to order a DVD of binary packages for the release that you installed. The 2 sources of FreeBSD DVD's that I'm aware of are www.freebsdmall.com and bsdmall.com. Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
last year i downloaded the miniinst iso disc 3 from the official ftp mirror, now i cant find it does 5.4 miniinst disc will be available only in the official 5.4 release announcement? or it has been permanently removed This has been well documented in the installation instruction. The layout of the discs has been reorganized so now disk1 functions the same as mini-inst or the former disk1 or the fixit disk. jerry (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.4/README.TXT) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
--On Sunday, April 17, 2005 11:52:36 AM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me a very rough estimate on how much time is required on an ongoing basis, after a server is set up with FreeBSD and Apache, to maintain everything. By everything I am referring to everything required to keep the server up, and host about 100 domains. Thank you in advance and I apologize if this question is not appropriate for this list. I'm maintaining a server with three domains, running apache, squirrelmail, postfix, cyrus imap and saslauthd, mailman, djbdns and a perl-based bulletin board, and I probably spend an average of 8 hours a month doing server-admin type stuff. If you set it up right, the only maintenance you have is running portupgrade and freebsd-update periodically, to ensure your apps don't have known security holes. Make sure you have a good backup system in case a drive fails, and that's about it. You can write canary scripts that monitor processes and attempt to restart them if they fail, and send you email as well. Most of the eight hours is spent reading mail from cron jobs that are monitoring the server. FreeBSD just runs. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
On 4/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Can anyone give me a very rough estimate on how much time is required on an ongoing basis, after a server is set up with FreeBSD and Apache, to maintain everything. By everything I am referring to everything required to keep the server up, and host about 100 domains. Thank you in advance and I apologize if this question is not appropriate for this list. Sue If you will be doing this as a business venture I HIGHLY recommend that you either get a managed server or hire someone to help you admin the server when you are stuck. There are many people out there that offer this service. Go to any webhosting forum and ask for some referrals. The reason I say this is because it seems that A LOT of people think they can make a quick buck off of webhosting without any real work. These are usually the companies that fail quickly and give the hosting industry a bad name. Running any type of business requires some thought and experience. There are a lot of minor issues that will stump a self described newbie and having someone there to assist you will make your life and the life of your clients that much easier. -CM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question
- Original Message - From: Chad Morland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: Re: newbie question On 4/17/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Can anyone give me a very rough estimate on how much time is required on an ongoing basis, after a server is set up with FreeBSD and Apache, to maintain everything. By everything I am referring to everything required to keep the server up, and host about 100 domains. Thank you in advance and I apologize if this question is not appropriate for this list. Sue If you will be doing this as a business venture I HIGHLY recommend that you either get a managed server or hire someone to help you admin the server when you are stuck. There are many people out there that offer this service. Go to any webhosting forum and ask for some referrals. The reason I say this is because it seems that A LOT of people think they can make a quick buck off of webhosting without any real work. These are usually the companies that fail quickly and give the hosting industry a bad name. Running any type of business requires some thought and experience. There are a lot of minor issues that will stump a self described newbie and having someone there to assist you will make your life and the life of your clients that much easier. -CM Good advice Chad. Even for those that have been admin'ing *Nix boxes for years get stumped by the most simplest of things at times. We rarely admit it, but it happens. Some additional things to consider if you plan on hosting sites as a business. oCGI access requirements of your clients. oDNS, SMTP, POP3 requirements for your clients. These usually go hand in hand with web hosting these days. oThe ability for them to update pages properly on their own (ftp / front page requirements / access) oThe responsibility to ensure that the software is patched quickly as needed (perl, php, mysql to name a few) oSpam / AV filtering (do they want it? Do they not care?, Are they going to trip out if you start filtering their mail?, etc) oAre you going to host these on static IP's? If you're going to provide SSL enabled sites, you have no choice since you can't use SSL on name based virtual hosting. oAre you going to need to do virtual domain maps for the users that require / use email services? A sundry of other items that are just too numerous to mention. I'm not trying to scare anyone away from it, far from it, just trying to add my .02 to the discussion of things to consider before you decide that hosting is the thing for you. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time spent on server maintenance (was Re: newbie question)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Can anyone give me a very rough estimate on how much time is required on an ongoing basis, after a server is set up with FreeBSD and Apache, to maintain everything. By everything I am referring to everything required to keep the server up, and host about 100 domains. Thank you in advance and I apologize if this question is not appropriate for this list. Sue This varies with experience, as an earlier post noted. As much as possible, one should attempt automation of daily chores, addition of domains, mailusers, etc. I certainly be willing to guess that one could spend an hour or more of vigilant inspection and checking on the server system daily, but as mentioned, if your system is fairly bulletproof (e.g., your plan takes into account every possible emergency, your automation is tested, retested, retested again, and then tested some more prior to deployment (and well-documented), then you could probably cut that down. I'd think that the time would really be spent in supporting 100 client's webmasters when they have issues; communicating with them in the event you should have to do (un- or) scheduled maintenance, etc. I'd also estimate that it's not a job for a rookie, per se, unless these 100 clients are very forgiving, patient, and understanding individuals... On the plus side, know that this is very much a thing that FreeBSD is good at My $.02, YMMV, include #disclaimer.h and all that Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question regarding Virtual Hosts setup
David H. Ingham wrote: Hopefully, a simple question. I have set up a FreeBSD server to develop a web app for a client. my system is: FreeBSD Version 5.2 Apache Version 2.0.47 MySQL Version 4.0.16 MySQLCC Version 0.9.3 PHP Version 4.3.3 Now I am able to create the pages, (using Quanta 3.1.4).but I cannot view them from anywhere except the FreeBSD box. Before I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9 to 5.2, I could get to the site from my W2K system, using a VirtualHost setting and browsing to http://10.0.0.27:5000/login.php Forgive me for not answering your question directly; I'm going to suggest something else; it's possibly better, and will eliminate a few issues regarding your network setup in general: Why not try name-based virtual hosting? Set up the following in httpd.conf and restart Apache: # # Use name-based virtual hosting. # NameVirtualHost *:80 # VirtualHost example: # Almost any Apache directive may go into a VirtualHost container. # The first VirtualHost section is used for requests without a known # server name. # VirtualHost * ServerName my.examplesite.net DocumentRoot /path/to/mydocs ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] # whatever else, log files, etc /VirtualHost Then set the hosts files on both server and clients (esp. clients) something like: # Dummy entries for intranet and test sites 10.0.0.27 my.examplesite.net 10.0.0.27 my.otherexample.org Access the sites using the names you've assigned... http://my.examplesite.net/login.php HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question regarding Virtual Hosts setup
On May 5, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: David H. Ingham wrote: Hopefully, a simple question. I have set up a FreeBSD server to develop a web app for a client. my system is: FreeBSD Version 5.2 Apache Version 2.0.47 MySQL Version 4.0.16 MySQLCC Version 0.9.3 PHP Version 4.3.3 In your httpd.conf, set Listen 0.0.0.0:80 I think its defaulting to only listen for localhost. Now I am able to create the pages, (using Quanta 3.1.4).but I cannot view them from anywhere except the FreeBSD box. Before I upgraded from FreeBSD 4.9 to 5.2, I could get to the site from my W2K system, using a VirtualHost setting and browsing to http://10.0.0.27:5000/login.php Forgive me for not answering your question directly; I'm going to suggest something else; it's possibly better, and will eliminate a few issues regarding your network setup in general: Why not try name-based virtual hosting? Set up the following in httpd.conf and restart Apache: # # Use name-based virtual hosting. # NameVirtualHost *:80 # VirtualHost example: # Almost any Apache directive may go into a VirtualHost container. # The first VirtualHost section is used for requests without a known # server name. # VirtualHost * ServerName my.examplesite.net DocumentRoot /path/to/mydocs ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] # whatever else, log files, etc /VirtualHost Then set the hosts files on both server and clients (esp. clients) something like: # Dummy entries for intranet and test sites 10.0.0.27 my.examplesite.net 10.0.0.27 my.otherexample.org Access the sites using the names you've assigned... http://my.examplesite.net/login.php HTH, Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question regarding Virtual Hosts setup
mark wrote: On May 5, 2004, at 11:54 AM, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: David H. Ingham wrote: Hopefully, a simple question. I have set up a FreeBSD server to develop a web app for a client. my system is: FreeBSD Version 5.2 Apache Version 2.0.47 MySQL Version 4.0.16 MySQLCC Version 0.9.3 PHP Version 4.3.3 In your httpd.conf, set Listen 0.0.0.0:80 I think its defaulting to only listen for localhost. Worth a shot, I suppose; every Apache I've ever set up defaulted to *:80, though. Trying: 'netstat -anf inet ' should clue him in on that possibility... KDK ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
* Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 11:32]: The problem only seems to be with X11. I tried running several commands in console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked fine. so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used This could be for naught, but what does 'xinit' do for you? to. I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH lines? I run in bash if that makes a difference. If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash. Besides, you said the machine rebooted. The path should be correct then. Right and right. Rehash is a [t]csh builtin, not present in Bourne shells, and yep, if the machine was rebooted (or the user logged out), then the point is moot. -- Joshua You can't treat the working man this way! One day we'll form a union, and get the fair and equitable treatment we deserve! Then, we'll get corrupt and shiftless, and the Japanese will eat us alive!--Anonymous Simpsons character ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:03:16AM -0700, Joshua Lokken wrote: * Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 11:32]: The problem only seems to be with X11. I tried running several commands in console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked fine. so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used This could be for naught, but what does 'xinit' do for you? to. I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH lines? I run in bash if that makes a difference. If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash. Besides, you said the machine rebooted. The path should be correct then. Right and right. Rehash is a [t]csh builtin, not present in Bourne shells, and yep, if the machine was rebooted (or the user logged out), then the point is moot. hash is in bash. There's a slogan in there, somewhere... ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
I would run portversion -v | grep and make sure everything was upgraded to start with. If all the gnome and X11 related stuff appears to be upgraded, it might be hard to track down which build was at fault. I think the gnome upgrade script made a logfile in tmp. I would check to see if there is one there and if so see what happened. Did you have x11 running when you tried the upgrade? Did the machine reboot or simply logout? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:16:25AM -0400, Ian Bowers wrote: I'm having trouble upgrading to gnome 2.6. I had gnome 2.4 installed and running just fine. I cvsup'd with the ports-supfile, and ran the gnome_upgrade.sh file. Maybe dumb question: Did you upgrade ruby as instructed in /usr/ports/UPDATING before upgrading Gnome? (I ran into that trap a while ago) Since running cvsup and the upgrade, I can't run startx like I used to. Are your problems only related to X11 - or do you have the problems when running in console-mode too? Try switching virtual terminals with AltCtrlF-key (like AltCtrlF2). First of all this switches you out to a console-terminal leaving X running and thus gives to the ability to track things down further. -ewald ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
I'll track down that logfile and check it out. I didn't have X11 running at the time, since I figured it might have to upgrade some components that X11 runs on. It rebooted the machine, and when I scrolled up to check out all the startup text, everything looked in order. Hopefully something will jump out in the logfile. From: Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Ian Bowers' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:44:22 -0400 I would run portversion -v | grep and make sure everything was upgraded to start with. If all the gnome and X11 related stuff appears to be upgraded, it might be hard to track down which build was at fault. I think the gnome upgrade script made a logfile in tmp. I would check to see if there is one there and if so see what happened. Did you have x11 running when you tried the upgrade? Did the machine reboot or simply logout? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN Premium! http://join.msn.com/?page=features/mlbpgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200439ave/direct/01/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
From: Ewald Jenisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 17:16:14 +0200 On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 10:16:25AM -0400, Ian Bowers wrote: I'm having trouble upgrading to gnome 2.6. I had gnome 2.4 installed and running just fine. I cvsup'd with the ports-supfile, and ran the gnome_upgrade.sh file. Maybe dumb question: Did you upgrade ruby as instructed in /usr/ports/UPDATING before upgrading Gnome? (I ran into that trap a while ago) Like a proper n00b, I didn't even know there was such a directory. I followed the upgrade FAQ at freebsd.org on the assumption that it was a full set of instructions. Thank you very much for this tidbit. I'll upgrade ruby and check out that dir. Since running cvsup and the upgrade, I can't run startx like I used to. Are your problems only related to X11 - or do you have the problems when running in console-mode too? Try switching virtual terminals with AltCtrlF-key (like AltCtrlF2). First of all this switches you out to a console-terminal leaving X running and thus gives to the ability to track things down further. -ewald The problem only seems to be with X11. I tried running several commands in console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked fine. so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used to. I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH lines? I run in bash if that makes a difference. Thank you very much for your help so far. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade
The problem only seems to be with X11. I tried running several commands in console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked fine. so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used to. I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH lines? I run in bash if that makes a difference. If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash. Besides, you said the machine rebooted. The path should be correct then. You could type env and look at your environment variables. Make sure X11 is still in your path. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question
Hello All, How do I uninstall or disable snmpd. I have spent too many days trying to find this info. pkg_info |grep -i snmp Check which snmpd you have installed. then do pkg_delete $return_information_from_pkg_info_command HTH!, Thank you. Jeff -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder Elvandar.org/DSINet.org Www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch Community about helping newcomers on the hackerscene ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Question
Hello All, How do I uninstall or disable snmpd. I have spent too many days trying to find this info. Thank you. Jeff ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Places to look for startup items that I know about: 1) rc.conf in your /etc 2) /usr/local/etc/rc.d You may want to check your /var/db/pkg directory to see if you installed anything like that as I don't have it running on my system. If you do find something in /var/db/pkg all you have to do is uninstall it either with pkg_delete or make deinstall (might be make uninstall) from the directory that snmp port was installed from. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question: Imager module and p5-Imager in /usr/ports/
meimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have tried to add Perl module Imager using CPAN. However, it failed. Then, I find a p5-Imager port. I think they are the same thing, isn't it? The port includes, but is a bit more than the CPAN module; it also includes solutions to the problems you had installing the module on your own. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:37:05AM +0100, Gafgo wrote: Hello there! I am a newbie to FreeBSD but have read a lot of handbooks. I have also installed different versions on my old computer just to practice (incl 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1). Now I have bought a new computer and wanted to install 4.9 for real. But during boot up this happened: ad0: REAL command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ata0: resetting devices... and there it hangs. When I tried 5.1 I had no problem. Could it be a hardware problem?? It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported under 5.x but not 4.9. That's a very good reason to install 5.2 -- caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is turning out nicely. I'd worry about using it for a system that was mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very well. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie question
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:37:05AM +0100, Gafgo wrote: Hello there! I am a newbie to FreeBSD but have read a lot of handbooks. I have also installed different versions on my old computer just to practice (incl 4.8, 4.9, 5.0, 5.1). Now I have bought a new computer and wanted to install 4.9 for real. But during boot up this happened: ad0: REAL command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting ata0: resetting devices... and there it hangs. When I tried 5.1 I had no problem. Could it be a hardware problem?? It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported under 5.x but not 4.9. That's a very good reason to install 5.2 -- caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is turning out nicely. I'd worry about using it for a system that was mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very well. Cheers, Matthew Thank you both for your help. I´ll go for 5.2. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Related Q: (was) Re: Newbie question
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 08:59:25AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported under 5.x but not 4.9. That's a very good reason to install 5.2 -- caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is turning out nicely. I'd worry about using it for a system that was mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very well. I'm going toput 5.2 on my new DNS server; but from scratch. SWondering how dificult it is to upgrade from 4.[78] to 5.[latest]. Is the UPGRADING file suffieient? I've heard the 5.X is the cat's meow tia, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Related Q: (was) Re: Newbie question
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:23:57AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 08:59:25AM +, Matthew Seaman wrote: It sounds to me as if your new machine has hardware which is supported under 5.x but not 4.9. That's a very good reason to install 5.2 -- caveats about early adopters notwithstanding, by all accounts 5.2 is turning out nicely. I'd worry about using it for a system that was mission critical to a business (read: financial consequences if it isn't up and running), but for a home system I think it would do very well. I'm going toput 5.2 on my new DNS server; but from scratch. SWondering how dificult it is to upgrade from 4.[78] to 5.[latest]. Is the UPGRADING file suffieient? I've heard the 5.X is the cat's meow UPGRADING should be sufficient if you are an experienced user. However, you will miss out on the ability to do various things, like create UFS2 filesystems or repartition your drives -- the shared root feature makes quite a difference. I think a wipe and re-install is generally a good idea over a major version bump, but if you can't do that, then update in place is the next best thing. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie question
--On Monday, January 19, 2004 15:24:18 + marlon corleone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forgive me if ever this is a off topic, how do i create this sample message, i want to change my motd default to this one, thanks :##:# :### :# :#:# :#:#:### :###:## :# :# :# # :# :#:# :#:# :#:#:# :#:# :# :# :# :#:# :#:# :#:# # :# :#:#:# :#:# :# :# :# :#:# :#:### :### :#:#:#:#:### :###:# :# :# :#:#:# :#:# :#:#:#:#:#:# :#:# :# :# :### :# :#:# :#:# :# :#:# :#:# :#:###:### vi /etc/motd edit to your hearts content. LER _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie question
On Monday 19 January 2004 09:25 am, Larry Rosenman wrote: --On Monday, January 19, 2004 15:24:18 + marlon corleone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forgive me if ever this is a off topic, how do i create this sample message, i want to change my motd default to this one, thanks :##:# :### :# :#:# :#:#:### :###:## :# :# :# # :# :#:# :#:# :#:#:# :#:# :# :# :# :#:# :#:# :#:# # :# :#:#:# :#:# :# :# :# :#:# :#:### :### :#:#:#:#:### :###:# :# :# :#:#:# :#:# :#:#:#:#:#:# :#:# :# :# :### :# :#:# :#:# :# :#:# :#:# :#:###:### vi /etc/motd edit to your hearts content. LER As /etc/motd may get overwritten during an upgrade, you may want to keep a backup copy somewhere. Best regards, Andrew Gould ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question
You may also add this to /etc/rc.conf or it will update the version info after every reboot: update_motd=NO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew L. Gould Sent: lundi 19 janvier 2004 16:36 To: Larry Rosenman; marlon corleone; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: newbie question On Monday 19 January 2004 09:25 am, Larry Rosenman wrote: --On Monday, January 19, 2004 15:24:18 + marlon corleone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: forgive me if ever this is a off topic, how do i create this sample message, i want to change my motd default to this one, thanks :##:# :### :# :#:# :#:#:### :###:## :# :# :# # :# :#:# :#:# :#:#:# :#:# :# :# :# :#:# :#:# :#:# # :# :#:#:# :#:# :# :# :# :#:# :#:### :### :#:#:#:#:### :###:# :# :# :#:#:# :#:# :#:#:#:#:#:# :#:# :# :# :### :# :#:# :#:# :# :#:# :#:# :#:###:### vi /etc/motd edit to your hearts content. LER As /etc/motd may get overwritten during an upgrade, you may want to keep a backup copy somewhere. Best regards, Andrew Gould ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEWBIE QUESTION
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Donald Turnbull wrote: I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already installed? Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly in the future? cd /usr/ports make search name=kde cd /usr/ports/x11/kdebase3 make install wait.. Rus -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: 1-888-327-6330 www.jvds.com - Root on your own box www.vpscolo.com - Your next hosting company ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEWBIE QUESTION
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:47:08 +, Donald Turnbull wrote: I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already installed? Already installed? No. A large number people want to run FreeBSD on their servers, and having a GUI on a server isn't usually a good or desired thing. Another large number of people want a GUI but don't want KDE or Gnome, so forcing this onto them would also be a disservice. FreeBSD is partially about choice. The same as it promotes OS choice in a world dominated by Windows, it also allows and encourages choice in its components, notably the window manager or (in the case of Gnome and KDE) the desktop environment. Or the use of one altogether, as in the case for servers. HOWEVER... it is insanely easy to install, with one command, via ports. The ports tree is your friend, and perhaps one of FreeBSD's most notable advantages over all other OSes. There are over 10,000 items in the ports tree that are no more than a make clean install away. You can take a vanilla FreeBSD install, install Gnome and have it install all it's bazillion dependencies (and XFree86 and all ITS dependencies) all in one swoop with a single command. Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly in the future? It really isn't all that bad now. I'm guessing you'd prefer a GUI installer, but there are a number of reasons this would Bad Idea and make more people unhappy than the current system (again, take the case of servers, or the ability of the current installer to work on pretty much anything). The biggest problem people have with the FreeBSD installer is that it is different than what they're used to. Don't condemn it because you haven't learned the (valid) reasons for its differences, and how to make use of it. I've spent most my computing life with Windows, but I can blow through a FreeBSD install within 3-5 mins. Do THAT with Windows. ;-) Welcome to FreeBSD... hope your stay is a long one! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NEWBIE QUESTION
I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already installed? Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly in the future? Like any newbie I heartily recommend reading through the handbook under the documentation section of www.freebsd.org . I believe this has a good section on installing X and selecting a window manager. Also read the sections on updating source and buildworld, this will keep your system up to date. There's some good FreeBSD tutorials at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 worth working through. Also, as well as ports being your friend I've found the utility portupgrade under /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade highly useful for managing my installed packages. Lastly, this list has always been welcoming when I've asked dumb questions and not full of trolls or people with superiority complexes unlike other open source lists (thanks). Good luck, Phil. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEWBIE QUESTION
On Thursday 15 January 2004 09:47 am, Donald Turnbull wrote: I'm a newbie to your OS, Does Free BSD have the KDE and Gnome GUI already installed? Do you have plans in making the installation more user friendly in the future? Donald M. Turnbull MCSE, MCDBA KDE and Gnome are on the installation CD. During installation, you can select one of these as your default desktop. The chosen default desktop will then be installed. My **opinions** regarding the installation/configuration process: (Caveat: I am just a user, not a developer.) 1. I think it would be very difficult to make the installation easier without reducing the number of options or the amount of control the user has during installation. For many FreeBSD users, control is more important than ease. Easy Unix is called Mac OSX. I talked my 11 year old nephew through a complete Mac OSX installation, including wireless access with WEP, over the phone. That has to be the epitome of easy. 2. The installation/configuration of FreeBSD is part of a newbie's learning curve. That's not to say it should be looked upon as hazing or a rite of passage; but it requires newbies to become familiar with their hardware and the operating system at a level that non-IS MS Windows users are not accustomed. This new level of familiarity will benefit the newbie down the road, particularly during his/her first emails for help. Embrace the challenge! You will not regret it. 3. I think the installation is difficult, but manageable, if you are familiar with the hardware in your computer and read the available documentation prior to installation. Documentation exists online and in several books available at retail bookstores. (I think it is prudent for anyone/everyone who is installing an operating system to be familiar with their hardware and to read the available documentation.) 4. Don't get overwhelmed by the entire installation process. Plan what you want to do, then focus on one step at a time. Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question with Squirrelmail 1.41 and IMAP
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:34:40AM -0500, Matthew A. Lee wrote: I just recently installed 4.9 on a fresh server. I was also installing squirrelmail 1.41 from the ports directory and also imap-uw (imap4rev1). I pointed my virtual server to the squirrelmail directory. I can get the login prompt, but when I login with a username and password, I receive an error message that says unknown user or incorrect password. On my console, it tells me the login has been disabled with whatever username I use and auth=username and host=127.0.0.1. It prefaces the error with imapd[151]. I looked at the pkg-message in imap-uw and it says that by default imap will not accept unencrypted logins. Since this is just a test server, I dont mind using unencrypted logins, but I dont know how to install it so it will work without them. Or, I am not certain of what I need to do in order for it work with encrypted logins. I looked at both the squirrelmail site and washington.edu's site on imap, but I dont really see the solution. It is probably something very simple that I am missing or that I am doing incorrectly. Still, any light someone may be able to shed on this or to point me in th right direction would be greatly appreciated. If you read right to the end of /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw/pkg-message you should have seen this: === NB: IMAP-UW now rejects non-encrypted logins by default. To change this === behaviour, recompile and reinstall cclient and imap-uw ports with one of === the following make variables defined: WITHOUT_SSL - build without SSL/encryption support. WITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT - build with SSL/encryption support, but allow non-encrypted logins. So the answer is that you need to rebuild/reinstall the cclient and imap-uw ports with either '-DWITHOUT_SSL' or '-DWITH_SSL_AND_PLAINTEXT' on the make command line. I believe either of these will give you a server that will accept plaintext logins, but I don't have my notes from when I did this to check for sure. At least one of them should work, anyway. Scott -- === Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question - package versions in FreeBSD 5.1
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:53:35PM +0100, Darren Phillips wrote: Sorry for the dumb-sounding question - is having multiple package versions installed in 5.1 going to burn me ? I (think I) understand the install process but not the consequences. How do all the versions coexist ? eg. install another linux base package. Most of the time, this appears to work, but it's not at all desirable. Generally, if you install a more recent version of a package you've already installed, then the files from the newer package just overwrite the files from the older one. According to pkg_info(1) you'll have both packages installed, but that's not really the case. The best way to sort out this sort of problem is to pkg_delete both versions of the port, and then re-install the version that you actually want. In order to avoid getting into this situation in the first place, use portupgrade(1) and friends to manage your installed ports. While that's a good way of handling multiple installations of the same port (even if they are different revisions), it doesn't really help when you have two different ports that both lay claim to the same files. While port maintainers go to great lengths to make their ports co-exist happily with any other ports, sometimes it just isn't possible. There is a (relatively) new 'CONFLICTS' variable in the port Makefiles which should go a long way towards preventing such problems. Unfortunately, use of the CONFLICTS variable is nowhere near ubiquitous yet. In the specific case of the various linux_base ports you ask about: /usr/ports/emulators:% foreach m (linux_base*/Makefile) foreach? echo $m foreach? make -f $m -V CONFLICTS foreach? end linux_base-6/Makefile linux_base-* linux_base-8/Makefile linux_base-* linux_base-debian/Makefile linux_base-* linux_base/Makefile linux_base-* ie. all of the different linux_base ports conflict with each other. So the short answer to your question is yes. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie question - package versions in FreeBSD 5.1
Darren Phillips schrieb: Sorry for the dumb-sounding question - is having multiple package versions installed in 5.1 going to burn me ? I (think I) understand the install process but not the consequences. How do all the versions coexist ? eg. install another linux base package. Normally coexistence of new and old versions is not the way to go, and pkg_add or 'make install' in the port-directory will refuse to work. If you want to upgrade 'make deinstall make reinstall' or pkg_delete and pkg_install (with the new version) should be the way to go. For a more comfortable way you should have a look into portupgrade, wich can upgrade all you outdated ports via the ports-system or packages. I never tried this with FreeBSD, but from my linux-experiments I can tell that having multible Versions of the same Programm is usually going to give you trouble if you've not been really carefully in terms of install and libary Paths. It's even more trouble to do this with libarys. Many thanks DP Cheers Felix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question - how to pass textfile as an argument
In the last episode (Oct 01), Martin Vana said: I was just wondering if there is a way how to pass a text file with list of path/files to programs like cp/mv. If the list is small (less than 65000 characters total): cp $(cat myfile) /otherdir/ If the list is large: xargs myfile -J% cp % /otherdir/ -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie question - how to pass textfile as an argument
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AFAIK, you can't. You can, however, use something like the find command.
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Re: newbie question - how to pass textfile as an argument
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Oct 01), Martin Vana said:
I was just wondering if there is a way how to pass a text file with
list of path/files to programs like cp/mv.
If the list is small (less than 65000 characters total):
cp $(cat myfile) /otherdir/
If the list is large:
xargs myfile -J% cp % /otherdir/
You could also run it through a for loop:
for i in $(cat myfile); do mv $i ~/mydir; done
Or if the files can be grouped by a pattern:
for i in *.mp3; do mv $i ~/mymp3s; done
Or if the files are scattered all over your hard drive and you haven't
created a list yet:
find / -type f -name *.mp3 -exec mv {} ~/mymp3s \;
Cheers,
Viktor
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Re: Newbie question
Thanks, for all. And... i have another question! On 3rd subnet that must be used for internet connection(192.168.0.x) have a small Internet Server (DLink - 192.168.0.1) who listening for http connections (192.168.0.0/24 Dial on Demand) and have NAT, FreeBSD gateway is on 192.168.0.2. What I want to do is all Win boxes to have a connection to internet (from 192.168.1 and 192.168.2 subnets) Should I setup Internet server to listening for 192.168.0.0/16 or redirect adress from 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.0.1 with natd? Or may be have other answer? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What I need to change on a PC with FreeBSD4.8 with 2 NICs, so that for Win computers must see each other on different subnets - 192.168.1/24 and 192.168.2/24? I want Win clients to be just like they are on a Win network? Or maybe i must do anything on those Win machines? Need more info. What are the ips on the two nics on FreeBSD? If only one nic has a private ip (192.168.x.x) while the other is public, then depending on your network setup, you should just be able to change the netmask of the winboxen so they are part of both the 192.168.1 and 192.168.2 subnets. This might not be the best solution, but it might work. If both nics have private ips, then I am at a loss and am unsure of what your network looks like. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question
Just I want Shared resources from 192.168.1 to use on 192.168.2 Thanks. I try and tell yo back is everything OK. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OK. But 192.168.1 can't connect to shared resorces on 192.168.2? Any suggestion? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie question
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 03:12 pm, B.Bonev wrote: OK. But 192.168.1 can't connect to shared resorces on 192.168.2? Any suggestion? I am no expert, but I can think of a few things: - both machines have the proper gateway ip set (as just mentioned in email) - the freebsd box rc.conf not setup properl - should be setup to be defaultrouter=YES and gateway=YES or something like that - the windows machines with the resources might not allow connections from machines on other subnets (there is a security setting which blocks connections from 'the internet') You should try pinging from one subnet to the other to make sure it works! Lastly, if pinging does work: Do you have samba on the freebsd machine, if you are sharing printers/hard disks, I am fairly sure you need the gateway machine to have samba running, because you need to setup samba on the gateway to collect a 'list' of all the resources on both networks, so that the machines on both side know where your resources are. This is because windows detects shared resources using a network broadcast, that is it sends a message to x.y.z.* to work out what mahines have shared resources. JacobRhoden - http://rhoden.id.au/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
