Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-05-29 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, I created an i16env package. Since it is very small and you did not specify a license anywhere, I assumed you intend it to be “Public Domain”. So, that’s how I listed it in the metadata. If that is incorrect, let me know. I added the package to be included on the BonusCD along with

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-05-29 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On May 28, 2024, at 6:12 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > *I'm resending (with a few edits/updates) because this message failed > over the weekend due to the SF list server outage > > > You may remember the Book8088 micro-laptop and Hand386 handheld from > last year. I

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-05-29 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On May 28, 2024, at 6:12 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > [..] > I also ordered a PS/2 keyboard, because the built-in keyboard is too > tiny to do real work on. It's 8 1/4 x 4 1/2 x 1 1/4 (inches). I just got one a few weeks ago along with a PS/2 mouse. Both brand new. I was kind

Re: [Freedos-devel] Virtual dot matrix printer

2024-05-29 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On May 27, 2024, at 11:41 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > I created a FreeDOS program that simulates printing on a 9-pin impact > ("dot matrix") printer. > > I made this for a few reasons: 1. I am writing an article about dot > matrix printing, and didn't have a good way

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-05-28 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
ou unzip this at >>> the root dir, then both get installed to \devel\i16gcc. I've copied >>> the zip file to the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio, here: >>> >>> https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/gcc-ia16/ >>> I16ENV.ZIP >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-05-28 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On May 28, 2024, at 3:47 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > This didn't get any discussion a month ago. Since it didn't appear in > T2405, I wanted to raise it again for T2406. Can we add this to T2406? > Adding a DJGPP.ENV file is all you need to compile programs with

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

2024-05-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Tom, > On May 23, 2024, at 2:04 PM, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Wilhelm , > [..] >> But I got the feedback from Jerome to ask the FD mailing list first as it >> is not possible to remove it if only one person >> asks for removing. So I did this. > > So Jerome is

Re: [Freedos-devel] still can't find the source code

2024-05-10 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
On 5/10/24 09:45, Green Fog via Freedos-devel wrote: There you go. The 2 requirements for free dos being a thing are just not there. not ease of use. I need to use an antique mail list for communication and wiki/documentation. It's absurd and very not efficient. I am very busy, and I can't

Re: [Freedos-devel] still can't find the source code

2024-05-08 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On May 8, 2024, at 5:50 AM, Green Fog via Freedos-devel > wrote: >  > I can see the potential of Freedos if these 2 conditions are met: > > 1, ease of use. Absolutely both for users and developers. Or else who is > going to use it? or develop more fun and useful applications to it. So

Re: [Freedos-devel] still can't find the source code

2024-05-08 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
 > On May 8, 2024, at 5:50 AM, Green Fog via Freedos-devel > wrote: >  > I can see the potential of Freedos if these 2 conditions are met: > > 1, ease of use. Absolutely both for users and developers. Or else who is > going to use it? or develop more fun and useful applications to it. So

Re: [Freedos-devel] A FreeCOM+DOSBox bug

2024-05-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
(one that does not pause), causes the  FreeCOM shell to terminate as well. So, IDK. On 5/4/24 03:05, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: Hi all, I do a lot of my programming under DOSBox running the FreeCOM shell. This provides me with the most convenient development process. However

[Freedos-devel] A FreeCOM+DOSBox bug

2024-05-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi all, I do a lot of my programming under DOSBox running the FreeCOM shell. This provides me with the most convenient development process. However on occasion, FreeCOM would terminate and the simplest thing to do to get things back to normal would be restart DOSBox. This is not a new

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2405

2024-05-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
from a computer for most of the day today. (Sending this from a phone). But, I should get to that at some point before tomorrow.:-)Jerome  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2024 at 12:12 PM From: "Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel" To: "FreeDOS Developers" Cc: jer...@shidel.net Sub

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2405

2024-05-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2405 for May is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ A special thanks to Wilhelm for pointing out most of the

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Wiki

2024-03-26 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi, Apparently, the (old) FreeDOS wiki on sourceforge is down or broken. After visiting the FreeDOS.org website, navigating to “Read the wiki ” and waiting, I just get a blank page after redirection to the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FETCH4FD

2024-03-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Laaca, I included the NLS files for FETCH4FD over on the FD-NLS project. Berki has already provided translations for French and Turkish. https://github.com/shidel/fd-nls/tree/master/fetch4fd/nls Also if you could clarify the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FETCH4FD

2024-03-21 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi > On Mar 19, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Ladislav Lacina via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hello! > I write own port of utility NeoFetch known from UNIXes. > [..] Never used NeoFetch. What is it for? Looking at the screenshot and features you listed, my guess is it reports some general system

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 12:09 PM Jim Hall wrote: >> >> Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today! We hung out for about 45 minutes after you left. Then, I had to go. Don’t know oh w

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Attached is my proposed revisions to FDAUTO. @ECHO OFF REM - Updated AUTOEXEC file, for 386 or better hardware REM - set basic environment set DOSDRV=C: set DOSDIR=%DOSDRV%\FREEDOS path %DOSDIR%\BIN if not exist %DOSDIR%\LINKS\NUL goto NOLINKS path %PATH%;%DOSDIR%\LINKS :NOLINKS set

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim and All, This got me thinking about the startup files a little more. I realized there are several additional factors that were present during their development that are simply no longer relevant. One such factor was the simultaneous development and adjustments made between the

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2403

2024-03-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2403 for March is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Changes: * Primarily, the release was switched back to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDISK 1.3.14

2024-02-23 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On Feb 22, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Excellent news! I'll post an item on the website about it. > > I can't login to Ibiblio from where I'm at right now, so I can't > mirror it - maybe someone else with Ibiblio access can do that for me. > Otherwise

Re: [Freedos-devel] NewDOS source code has been published!

2024-02-18 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Willi, > On Feb 17, 2024, at 9:38 AM, Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I forgot to mention that there is another great new thing: NewDOS and its > source code is free since 2024-02-06! > NewDOS itself is freeware since 2018. > > You can grab it here:

Re: [Freedos-devel] Tree v3.7.3 Was: Re: Xcopy 1.5

2024-02-18 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jeremy, > On Feb 17, 2024, at 9:58 PM, perditionc--- via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 9:09 AM Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel > wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> thanks for your response. Xcopy is not the only thing, maybe you remember >> tree 3.72 in this forum? >> > ...

Re: [Freedos-devel] Append

2024-02-18 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Eduardo, > On Feb 17, 2024, at 4:54 PM, Eduardo Casino via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Jerome, > > I'm the autor of Append. I'll have a look at it, although it's been a long > time... > > Thanks, > Eduardo Great. Bernd took a look at the merge request. Other than white-space

[Freedos-devel] Append

2024-02-17 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, Append received a “critical” merge request in the GitLab Archive. https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/append/-/merge_requests/1 Since, no know developer is maintaining that program, it would be great for someone to volunteer to

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP

2024-02-12 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Bernd, > On Feb 12, 2024, at 5:58 PM, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > I am one step further. I installed dosfstools via zypper and ran the RBE > install script again. It showed the following output: > > required lower permissions for creating DOS filessystems. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP

2024-02-12 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Bernd, So… I booted the (Windows 10) machine that I use for creating FreeDOS builds. (Host OS should not be relevant.) There was an update to VirtualBox. So, I installed that and the related new extension pack. ( Following the instructions in the RBE’s Wiki. Except for CPU’s, I went with

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP

2024-02-11 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
eed to change to make it compatible (again). Hopefully won’t take too long. Thanks, Jerome > > >> On 11.02.2024 21:09, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: >> Hi Bernd, >> >>>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 2:11 PM, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP

2024-02-11 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Bernd, > On Feb 11, 2024, at 2:11 PM, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Jerome, > > thanks for the explanations! > >>> Am 10.02.2024 um 00:18 schrieb Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel >>> : >> >> Oh BTW... If your inter

Re: [Freedos-devel] HTMLHELP

2024-02-09 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Bernd, > On Feb 9, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hello, > > I uploaded Willis recent changes containing the HTML help 1.1.0 (English) to > the unstable Gitlab repo [1]. The other languages are still shipped in > version 1.0.8. This also contains version

Re: [Freedos-devel] NLS in Edlin

2024-02-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Ralf, > On Feb 4, 2024, at 2:55 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On 2/4/2024 11:32 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> On Feb 4, 2024, at 2:16 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel >>> wrote: >>> >>> O

[Freedos-devel] HELP.BAT and other OS Batch files

2024-02-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, Per our discussion during the online meeting, if you are interested in updating some of the included connivence batch files (like HELP.BAT). Their home is at GitLab at in the FDHELPER project. https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/fdhelper Some of

Re: [Freedos-devel] NLS in Edlin

2024-02-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi, > On Feb 4, 2024, at 2:16 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On 2/4/2024 10:17 AM, Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel wrote: >> I made recompiling Edlin easy for non-programmers, so that shouldn't be a >> problem. You don't have to know a lick of C to recompile it. > > Well,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, Interestingly, when you left the online meeting, it kept going at least for a few seconds until I clicked end-call. I don’t know if it would have kept going indefinitely. We will have to try that next time. :-) Jerome ___ Freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric, > On Feb 3, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > > Hi guys, thanks for cleaning up autoexec! > >>> REM - streamlined the network test (user adds their own stuff anyway). > > I hope they add it at a place where it actually gets to run :-) > >>> set

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
ntil I’ve finished my first coffee before > responding to email. > > Or… > > Maybe, proofread before clicking send. Lots of typographic errors. > > LOL. > > Jerome > >> On Feb 3, 2024, at 5:20 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel >> > <mailto:f

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Wow, I should really wait until I’ve finished my first coffee before responding to email. Or… Maybe, proofread before clicking send. Lots of typographic errors. LOL. Jerome > On Feb 3, 2024, at 5:20 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi Jim, > >> On

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On Feb 2, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Here's my second pass at cleaning up my FDAUTO.BAT file. If you like > it, feel free to use it. This does a lot of streamlining from the > "stock" FDAUTO.BAT in T2402. Great idea. They can defiantly use

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2402

2024-02-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric, > On Feb 1, 2024, at 9:32 AM, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, thanks for the updates! :-) > >> The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2402 for February is now available for >> download at: >>

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2402

2024-02-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2402 for February is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Changes since T2401: 2024-02-01 05:49:48 upx

Re: [Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2024-01-31 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim, > On Jan 19, 2024, at 4:58 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > I promised to propose the next virtual get-together after the holiday > break, so here it is. :-) > > How about Sunday, February 4 for the next get-together? That's three > Sundays from now. > >

[Freedos-devel] Bug: SET /E

2024-01-31 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, This bug has been around a very long time. I just did not think of mentioning it until now. The FreeCOM SET /E bug is easy to reproduce by trying to use I/O redirection. Example: set /e TEST=time /d | more Now, the behavior of pipe here is debatable. It could redirect from “time /d”

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2401

2024-01-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2401 for January is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Although this update consists of only a few simple

Re: [Freedos-devel] Learning DOS assembly programming

2023-12-29 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi, > On Dec 26, 2023, at 11:42 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > I actually never learned DOS assembly programming, but decided I'd > like to start. > > What assembler do you recommend, and where is a good place to start > learning about DOS assembly programming? Start with a

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2312

2023-12-02 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Minor correction in T2312 notice email... > On Dec 2, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi All, > > The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2312 for December is now available for > download at: > > https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2312

2023-12-02 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2312 for December is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Sorry, it is a day late. I’ve been occupied

Re: [Freedos-devel] Question about JEMM license

2023-12-02 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi, > On Nov 29, 2023, at 2:57 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > [..] > The source to JEMM386/JEMMEX is in the "src" directory. Several of the > *.ASM files indicate public domain. Here are the exceptions that I > found: > > src/DMA.ASM > ;--- DMA port trapping code > ;--- originally

Re: [Freedos-devel] Question about USBDOS license

2023-11-29 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Bret, > [..] >> I see the point with item 5. However, the mention of a "..directly >> from a web site that charges a 'registration fee'.." seems (to me) to >> be specific to sites that charge a mandatory fee to access files. > > That is correct. Voluntary donations to a website owner are

[Freedos-devel] Monthly Get-together

2023-11-26 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi all, Is there a FreeDOS online get-together today (Sunday 11/26/2023)? Jerome ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] special old DOS software looking for a place online

2023-11-22 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric, > On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel > wrote: > >  > Hi developers! > > As you may remember, I wrote a rather specialized eyetracking software > called NEWTRACK *long* ago. It is open source, written in DJGPP GNU C > and works with dual PCI VGA/VESA graphics.

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2311

2023-11-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2311 for November is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ :-) Jerome

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310 - no free space on CD

2023-10-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi, > On Oct 3, 2023, at 9:20 PM, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > I think the developer tools should go to the bonus CD. As was > mentioned, most FreeDOS users will probably use it to run legacy apps > and games. People who still have the knowledge to do some > honest-to-god

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi Jim,On Oct 1, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:I want to compile some things using IA-16 GCC in the new Interim BuildT2310, but neither the LiveCD or BonusCD have the DJGPP Environmentpackage on it. We had this on previous FreeDOS installs; to compilewith IA-16 GCC, you need

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2310

2023-10-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2310 for October is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Summary of changes since T2308. 2023-09-29 05:10:13 wcd (shidel): updated to v6.0.5 2023-09-28 16:03:00 project_FDI-x86 [unstable]

Re: [Freedos-devel] Interim Build Delayed

2023-09-28 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, I finally had a little time today to dig into: "Why T2309 build was ignoring the directive to exclude the external FDISK Language file and was running out of space on the 720k boot floppy diskette." After spending an hour or so trying to debug the RBE to locate the problem, the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Ré : unstable should be build from unstable branch

2023-09-17 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi, > On Sep 17, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel > wrote: > >  > Rereading dates on: > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/devel/ > most packages are not very recent... ldegug is... upx from this year, but > other relatively old. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Interim Build Delayed

2023-09-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
t to figuring out why the RBE is not excluding the LNG file like it is told (probably file name case, dir or something simple), it will fit in the small floppy. But… Compression help files would probably be a good thing as well. Jerome > >> On 01.09.2023 16:49, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-dev

[Freedos-devel] Interim Build Delayed

2023-09-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, The FreeDOS Monthly Interim Build for September will be delayed. The latest version of FDISK includes a large language translation file. That file is preventing the 720k Floppy version from building. Normally, I would just tell the RBE to exclude that file. There are a number of such

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updating/moving the wiki

2023-08-26 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 26, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On 26.08.2023 17:48, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: >> Would require manually glueing an index together of the projects with Wikis >> under a main “landing page” which could

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updating/moving the wiki

2023-08-26 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 26, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Jim wrote: >>> (This is a long email. Feel free to skip ahead to the "MY PROPOSAL" >>> section at the end.) >>> > [..] >>> MY PROPOSAL: >>> >>> I did some analysis, and the FreeDOS Wiki has 290 pages in it. That's >>>

Re: [Freedos-devel] CD-ROMs was ANSI for DOS

2023-08-06 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > On 8/3/2023 11:54 AM, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: >> >>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Bret Johnson via Freedos-devel >>> wrote: >>> >>>  >>>

Re: [Freedos-devel] ANSI for DOS

2023-08-03 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 3, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Bret Johnson via Freedos-devel > wrote: > >  >> >> Yeah, USB and CD/DVD makes only sense for a 386+ ... > > USB, yes. CD/DVD, no. USB requires PCI which in turn requires 386+. > Actually, there were supposedly USB host controllers manufactured for the ISA

Re: [Freedos-devel] ANSI for DOS

2023-08-02 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
> On Aug 2, 2023, at 3:05 PM, Rugxulo via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 2:29 AM Paul Edwards via Freedos-devel >> wrote: >> >>> FreeDOS should run on 8086, both kernel and shell. If it doesn't, >>> that's a bug or omission. >> >> Are you sure? I thought I was

Re: [Freedos-devel] tree 3.7.2/3.7.1

2023-08-02 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
1212151852/http://www.darklogic.org/fdos/projects/tree/>This > text that says that the options /s, /d and (according to nls: /v, version, > works) are added at 3.7.1. They work with 3.7.1, from root, > but they do not work correct at subdirectories, and, as Jerome Shidel > reported,

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2308

2023-08-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2308 for August is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Summary of changes since T2307: 2023-07-25 16:57:18

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2307

2023-07-01 Thread Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
Hi All, The FreeDOS Interim Test Build T2307 for July is now available for download at: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ :-)

Re: [Freedos-devel] Free FDISK interim builds

2023-02-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Bernd, Since you are working on fixing and improving FDISK, there are two features that would be great to add for end users. During the installation of FreeDOS, when no partitions are present, the installer will try to use FDISK to automatically partition the drive. Unfortunately, the

Re: [Freedos-devel] DOS File Sharing- was: UEFI, virtual BIOS and virtual hardware - was: Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-31 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Jan 31, 2023, at 8:55 AM, tom ehlert wrote: > >  >> The main difference between using VBADOS and EtherDFS would come >> down to the DOS machine. If running DOS inside VirtualBox, VBADOS >> would most likely be the easiest to setup and use. However, using >> EtherDFS works under other

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-23 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Bret, Yep! You said it all much better and in far greater detail than I went into. Thanks. :-) Jerome > On Jan 23, 2023, at 1:54 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: > >  >> >> by the way, the 2 programs are the setup stuff and edlin. hardly >> rocket science. > > Even those two "simple"

Re: [Freedos-devel] Google Summer of Code?

2023-01-22 Thread Jerome Shidel
Assuming Google does not scrap GSoC amidst the layoffs, I have a thought. Perhaps it could be used to solve one of the most frequent problems I hear. Running FreeDOS on modern UEFI hardware. As we are all well aware, this cannot be directly accomplished and would require an abstraction layer

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-10 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 10, 2023, at 4:14 AM, Knedlik wrote: > > Hello all again, > thanks for all the responses. Definitely useful stuff. I’d just like to > respond to the concerns regarding the VM - I’m afraid I don’t have any > silicon able to run FreeDOS. My main computer is not only an overkill

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where to start and continue?

2023-01-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 9, 2023, at 2:46 PM, Knedlik wrote: > > That’s actually a good question. > I would say the second option, as I’m in for the trip to DOS world for > learning how it worked in „the old days“. I do have FreeDOS running on a VM > on my Mac, so that I can access it at pretty much any

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy edition boot disk lacks an editor?

2022-12-06 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Dec 6, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote: > > Jerome Shidel [06/12/2022 23.38]: > >>>> But I completely agree it would be nice to include some sort of text >>>> editor. Like MEM and MORE, it can be difficult to get along without having >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy edition boot disk lacks an editor?

2022-12-06 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Ralph, > On Dec 6, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 12/6/2022 1:39 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> But I completely agree it would be nice to include some sort of text editor. >> Like MEM and MORE, it can be difficult to get along without having them o

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS floppy edition boot disk lacks an editor?

2022-12-06 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Dec 2, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Bernd Boeckmann via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Hi all, > > last time I installed FreeDOS from floppy disk set I was in need for an > editor to edit some system filed but did not find one on the boot disk. Is > that an oversight of mine or is this by

Re: [Freedos-devel] clamav - remove or not remove?

2022-12-06 Thread Jerome Shidel
use > much more space to add fdav 0.2.2 in the same folder, a GUI for virus > checking. > This tool was created by Blair Dude, his website is > https://sites.google.com/site/blairdude/home, there was no more activity > since in about 2010. > I created an update of the ver 54 database f

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2212

2022-12-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi all, FreeDOS Interim Build T2212 is now available at https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Mostly, this update consists of improvements to KEYB and 5 other package updates

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Archive CI/CD

2022-11-23 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi All, First, I want to apologize to everyone using the FreeDOS Archive on GitLab ( https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS ) that may have received a bunch of messages regarding failed and successful CI/CD pipelines over the last few days. This was the result of some work I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Toggling directories

2022-11-15 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Ralph, > On Nov 15, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 11/9/2022 7:26 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> There is a minor compatibility difference with the FreeCOM DIR command. >> >> Most of the option switches work l

[Freedos-devel] Toggling directories

2022-11-09 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi all, There is a minor compatibility difference with the FreeCOM DIR command. Most of the option switches work like toggles. For example: dir /w - shows a wide listing dir /w /w - shows a normal listing dir /w /w /w- shows a wide listing This deviates from MS-DOS dir /w

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem with procedural types in 16-bit DOS FreePascal

2022-11-07 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Rugxulo, > On Nov 7, 2022, at 4:11 AM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:08 PM Jerome Shidel wrote: >> >> Make sure your compiling to the correct memory model. (I think huge, but >> you’ll need to double check that) > > D

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem with procedural types in 16-bit DOS FreePascal

2022-11-06 Thread Jerome Shidel
I’m not at my computer right now. So, this will just be rather vague…. Although I’ve used FPC/Lazarus for some things, I haven’t used it to create stuff to run under DOS. But, I have seen some weirdness regarding this sort of thing when targeting current GUIs. I forget the exact details.

Re: [Freedos-devel]   Interim Build T2211

2022-11-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Nov 1, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > did you remove or fix antivirus as i reported in this version, maybe also > newer virus definition? > I found nothing about this in changelog. > > Willi No changes were made to the antivirus yet. Not sure who wants to work on fixing

[Freedos-devel] Interim Build T2211

2022-11-01 Thread Jerome Shidel
Interim Build T2211 is now available. (Please remember: You may need to refresh or purge your browser cache.) https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/test/ Summary of changes since

Re: [Freedos-devel] New version of text editor (and image viewer) Blocek

2022-10-28 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Oct 28, 2022, at 7:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > [..] > > PS: I noticed that Jim's TRCH only translates one char at a time, > do we already have a variant which is as powerful as Linux "TR", > supporting for example TR 'a-z' 'A-Z' or TR -d '\n' and so on? > Non-DOS Notepad++ text

Re: [Freedos-devel] Detecting VMs

2022-10-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:11 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > Hi Jerome, > >> Without going into great details, I have made a couple programs that >> can do some (i think) neat visual tricks that require VGA support. One >> such visual trick works on nearly all REAL hardware and in DOSBox. >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] Detecting VMs (was: Bonus/Devel CD)

2022-10-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:24 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: > >> Jerome's V8Power Tools will detect some VMs, IIRC: > > Yes, I checked that out. In the version I looked at, it detects 3 different > VMs all using the same method (looking for a specific identification string > in BIOS memory). That

Re: [Freedos-devel] Detecting VMs (was: Bonus/Devel CD)

2022-10-26 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:40 AM, Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 10/24/2022 6:38 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: >> Anyway, I'm wondering how "involved" FreeDOS should be in the VM world (I >> think in today's world the vast majority of users install DOS under a VM >> rather than on real hardware, though I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Bonus/Devel CD

2022-10-23 Thread Jerome Shidel
Although there has not been a lot of feed back on what to do with the excessively (nearly 1GB) BonusCD in T2210, I think the majority of feedback has been in favor of splitting off the development packages from the BonusCD on to their own DevelCD. And, we should do this instead of dropping

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Interim Build T2210

2022-10-17 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Oct 2, 2022, at 5:08 AM, tom ehlert wrote: > [..] > btw dowloading 900 MB .zip over a 4MB/s download link is a PITA; this > alone should recommend a split. > > Tom Imagine downloading it back when DOS was the main home user OS — over a fast 56k modem. If you somehow managed to

[Freedos-devel] MKEYB layout suggestion

2022-09-29 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Tom, I do not know if you have either the time or interest in this. I just wanted to point it out in case you were not aware. A request for an additional MKEYB layout on the GitLab archive. https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/base/mkeyb/-/issues/1

Re: [Freedos-devel] VERIFY reimplementation

2022-09-15 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Sep 14, 2022, at 3:11 AM, Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro > wrote: > > I am not sure if it could be useful for anyone, but I have just reimplemented > VERIFY.COM by Peter Mikalajunas -1995- > (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/verify/ >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Ré : When a system with limited filenames length combine directories into one

2022-09-06 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Paul, Well…. > On Sep 6, 2022, at 12:18 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > I wrongly said: > >It's probably ok... because fdnpkg probably won't too. > Nonsense! fdnpkg have no way to know that many directories have been combined > into one. > > So I just need fdpkg to

Re: [Freedos-devel] Make fdpkg.sh to work with gitlab zip files

2022-09-05 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Sep 5, 2022, at 11:35 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Sadly... fdpkg.sh does not work on dowloaded zip project files from Gitlab, > most probably because the wanted dirs (APPINFO, SOURCE, etc) are not in root. > > Would you consider to edit fdpkg.sh to work for

Re: [Freedos-devel] source directory (DJGPP packages)

2022-09-05 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Sep 5, 2022, at 12:03 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Is there a process that will take the files in SOURCE/(PKG)/ and make them a > SOURCES.ZIP file? The answer to that is… Yes, no, sort-of, not really. > I explore a bit and saw that some packages are just source

[Freedos-devel] IBIBLIO timestamps

2022-09-03 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi All, Just want to give you all heads up… As you maybe aware, Jim has been spending time straightening out much of the files stored/mirrored on ibiblio. Part of the process has been adjusting many of the timestamps for archives. To help visitors easily see the age of files spread out

Re: [Freedos-devel] group-devel.htm file broken by dj_ renaming

2022-09-03 Thread Jerome Shidel
> On Sep 2, 2022, at 7:54 PM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > Yes, indeed... (the cache issue again), sorry. > using Firefox 104.0.1 under NixOS Interesting. Lately for compatibility reasons, I’ve been using Firefox (104.0.1) more for stuff on macOS. I have not noticed an

Re: [Freedos-devel] group-devel.htm file broken by dj_ renaming

2022-09-02 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi… > On Sep 2, 2022, at 5:37 PM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel > wrote: >  > On: > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/unstable/pkg-html/group-devel.html > the DJGPP packages seems to not work anymore due to the package renaming. > That’s the browser

Re: [Freedos-devel] An allegro game library version 4.2.2 package

2022-09-02 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Those 8.3 DOS filenames can be limiting for package names, so I like > the idea of moving the DJGPP packages to DJ_x instead of DJGPP_xx. > I saw your note on GitLab about this, too. > > If you're also rebuilding the DJGPP packages

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