Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Robinson
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 05:21 -0800, dos386 wrote: No it is not and it is rude Try ReactOS forum. How long you will survive there before getting banned, if you are not yet. Have you been banned from the ReactOS forums? Too many people treat it like it's a mere hobby and tempers do flare on

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-17 Thread Christian Masloch
and - BTW - FreeDOS does NOT want to be a Windows 9x replacement. Of course not. It wants to be a MS-DOS replacement. The initial question wasn't to transform FreeDOS into a GUI magically but to create a new project for a GUI running on FreeDOS.

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-17 Thread Mike Webb
(Prior posters' names deleted to protect the guilty) and - BTW - FreeDOS does NOT want to be a Windows 9x replacement. Of course not. It wants to be a MS-DOS replacement. It continually amazes me how, especially in the Free Software world, non-sentient things like software, information,

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-17 Thread Marco Antonio Achury Palma
Yes, but the project was formulated with a clear object: Create a free replacement for MS-DOS. And take 10+ years to get it !!! Create a free replacement for a Win9x system is a bigger objective, and is different enough to be a different project. 2009/6/17, Mike Webb weeble7...@gmail.com:

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread dos386
No it is not and it is rude Try ReactOS forum. How long you will survive there before getting banned, if you are not yet. development has been to at least support the versions of Windows that ran on top of dos. This violates the GPL. The natural next step is to replace those versions of

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread Christian Masloch
development has been to at least support the versions of Windows that ran on top of dos. This violates the GPL. That sounds interesting. Completely implausible, but interesting. In what way does it violate the GPL?

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread Robert Riebisch
King InuYasha wrote: HX Extender is not a very good Win32 console runner, Why do you think so? Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.dewrote: King InuYasha wrote: HX Extender is not a very good Win32 console runner, Why do you think so? Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ Because running Win32 console applications are not

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread Tom Ehlert
Because running Win32 console applications are not reliable in HX. I have a few of them on my own FreeDOS machine, and they don't really run very well. is that your entry to the ever lasting 'WORST BUG REPORT EVER' competition ? in that case, consider yourself a front runner. and - BTW -

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-16 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote: Because running Win32 console applications are not reliable in HX. I have a few of them on my own FreeDOS machine, and they don't really run very well. is that your entry to the ever lasting 'WORST BUG REPORT EVER'

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-15 Thread Christian Masloch
What are you talking about? ReactOS is not about Windows Me The request of M.R. (NO, I don't understand it well ... or at all) Yes, it seems you don't understand it, or at least not the same way I do. I don't see where he mentioned Windows Me at all. And Windows 3.x/9x is no DOS GUI from

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-15 Thread dos386
This is off-topic and irrelevant anyway ... -- ~~~ wow ~~~ -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-15 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Michael Robinson schreef: There are many Windows programs that only work in dos based Windows. There is such a thing as a dos based Windows program, try to run it at the dos prompt ( any version ) and you'll get a this requires Microsoft Windows error. Many of these same programs either

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-15 Thread King InuYasha
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl wrote: Michael Robinson schreef: There are many Windows programs that only work in dos based Windows. There is such a thing as a dos based Windows program, try to run it at the dos prompt ( any version ) and you'll get a this

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-14 Thread dos386
Warcraft II BNE version 2.01A runs in Windows 9x and Windows XP. It was designed for 9x Try HX :-) ReactOS is not useful at this point and even if 12 years done, 12 years ahead ;-) it were it is not a DOS compatible replacement for Windows. There is a lot of DOS based Windows software

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Michael Robinson
being worked on, all it does is make people angry. Because you are unable to describe your problem in a way understandable to other people ;-) It's not that simple. Asking questions about when XYZ will work or what is being worked on raises people's ire because they can't give good

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Blair Campbell
I know about ReactOS, ReactOS is garbage right now.  It will probably be garbage for 2-3 more years. Realistically, writing a Windows 9x replacement for FreeDOS would take years, probably more than 2 or 3 because developers are hard to find and it's a huge project, probably (correct me if I'm

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Bernd Blaauw
guest schreef: I know about ReactOS, ReactOS is garbage right now. It will probably be garbage for 2-3 more years. Calling a project garbage is quite severe. If it's unusable for you or your goals, just indicate so but don't dismiss other people's efforts into getting something nice off

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Christian Masloch
There is no reason for an MSDOS Windows replacement to be MSDOS compatible. Except to run on MS-DOS as well. As said, it's Microsoft's method to write programs such that they only run with other Microsoft programs although there's no good reason why they shouldn't run with other vendor's

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Christian Masloch
HX DOS Extender does support VERY basic Win32 applications, but it is somewhat of a hodgepodge. It's basically using the Windows NT form of Win32 as its base. If that could be refitted to work with Wine DLLs then it would make a lot of the work needed go by a lot faster. Then we would

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Christian Masloch
I try to ask what is going to get done in the next release or when XYZ is going to get fixed and I get attacked. YES, but is cloning of Windaube ME on-topic here at all ? :-D What are you talking about? ReactOS is not about Windows Me at all, because Windows Me is effectively part of the

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-13 Thread Christian Masloch
probably (correct me if I'm wrong) even more challenging than writing a dos kernel. I think you're right on that. For example, Japheth writes on his site that HX's source code is about 100,000 lines of code, whereas the current RxDOS kernel Assembly source code is only around 35,000 lines

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-12 Thread guest
First off, would I be asking for a freedos compatible Windows replacement if I could just use ReactOS? I know about ReactOS, ReactOS is garbage right now. It will probably be garbage for 2-3 more years. There is no reason for an MSDOS Windows replacement to be MSDOS compatible. Freedos

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-12 Thread King InuYasha
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM, guest plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: First off, would I be asking for a freedos compatible Windows replacement if I could just use ReactOS? I know about ReactOS, ReactOS is garbage right now. It will probably be garbage for 2-3 more years. There is no

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-11 Thread Christian Masloch
Theoretically, freedos could support an open source replacement. And in my opinion, the only involvement FreeDOS should have is to ensure that any such open source project would have access to whatever they need to run, just like any other DOS application. That is, it should be a separate

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-11 Thread Eric Auer
Hi guys, I agree here. A new GUI should not run exclusively on FreeDOS... I think asking the FreeDOS (kernel) developers to provide technical information about DOS, while not tying the program to FreeDOS... I would recommend to program your GUI in a way which makes in run on any DOS, using

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-10 Thread Chris Schumann
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Robinsonplu...@robinson-west.com wrote: So, how are efforts to replace Windows 9x coming along?  Theoretically, freedos could support an open source replacement. AFAIK, there is no effort to do this at all. Feel free to educate me on that, though. And

Re: [Freedos-user] A windows 9x replacement...

2009-06-10 Thread Pat Villani
Well, I'm not sure that I want to put anything quite like this on the FreeDOS roadmap. The effort involved in something like this is about the same as it is for ReactOS. And it isn't the basic Windows DLLs, but all the support DLLs that are necessary for applications to run properly. To be