[FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How brand-new words are spreading across America

2015-08-05 Thread David Eric Smith
You know what I find curious about the various econ conversations around this topic? What I am about to say is not any deep insight, and I have heard Hanauer say the same things in his TED talk (nearly verbatim to the article), but just this time, reading it led to the realization. In the

Re: [FRIAM] [ SPAM ] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How brand-new words are spreading across America

2015-08-05 Thread David Eric Smith
freakonomics franchise out of this. -- rec -- On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:22 PM, David Eric Smith desm...@santafe.edu wrote: You know what I find curious about the various econ conversations around this topic? What I am about to say is not any deep insight, and I have heard Hanauer say

Re: [FRIAM] Interesting Link

2015-07-22 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Marcus, and thanks, “4. Back to mechanism: If the above are correct, then any sub-system of the economy that depends on a bitcoin-like digital currency will be subject to the stresses that come from an inflexible-supply money such as gold, and those will need to be addressed somehow. “

Re: [FRIAM] Greek Crisis Philosophy

2015-07-07 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi All, The argument that the relation of Greece, Spain, and Italy, and to some extent France, to Germany and Holland within the EU is analogous to that of the southern-agrarian states to the northern-industrial states in the US since the revolutionary war is one that I remember first seeing

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

2015-12-28 Thread David Eric Smith
It's a fun way to put the question, Grant, > Should physics give up its similar insistence on verification (seeking "the > truth") - and join the ranks as just another branch of abstract mathematics? (in context of your longer summary). One can almost do a meta-Popper on the relation of syntax

Re: [FRIAM] Physicists and Philosophers Debate the Boundaries of Science | Quanta Magazine

2015-12-29 Thread David Eric Smith
ail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Glen, Eric, >> >> If "reality" is complete, must not then (assuming that it is at least as >> complex as arithmetic), aka Godel, it be also inconsistent? >> >> Grant >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >&

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-24 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Nick, Russ, and all, Far too much here to be able to answer, but I feel this is one I should pick up a little. I am relieved that your question is quite specific: > I am curious to know if others have read this book, and what you might think > of it. I haven't read this book. Maybe

[FRIAM] request for collective memory: degrees of democracy

2017-05-12 Thread David Eric Smith
Dear All, I am very sorry to spam the list because I am a disorganized person and can't ever remember where I saw something. Sometime in the past, an email was circulated that had a research paper on -- if I recall aright -- a way to talk about the degree of democracy a society has, by

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

2018-01-06 Thread David Eric Smith
ome.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ >> <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/> >> >> From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com >> <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >> Sent: Satu

Re: [FRIAM] City University of Santa Fe

2018-01-06 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi you guys, You are already familiar with this, right? http://ronininstitute.org/ I understand it as trying to solve a concrete and particular problem that lives within the overlaps of both Steve’s and Nick’s points (as I read the two). In gig humanity,

Re: [FRIAM] What is an object?

2018-07-19 Thread David Eric Smith
Thanks Nick, > Life, here, is very complicated, right at the moment, but I wanted to answer > one of your comments, strait-away. > > Not only can this happen in *sequence* as you assume. But it can also happen > in parallel. My hand can feel the elephant's trunk at the exact same time my

Re: [FRIAM] What is an object?

2018-07-18 Thread David Eric Smith
Nick, Many years ago I asked this question of an IT person in Austin (little different, about distributed objects), and he pointed me at this book, which I dutifully got and read: https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Distributed-Objects-Survival-Guide/dp/0471129933

Re: [FRIAM] gerrymandering algorithm question

2018-11-03 Thread David Eric Smith
Don’t know if it is redundant with material somewhere in this post already, but someone I have met who works in this space (mathematics and quantitative social science of gerrymandering) is Wendy K. Tam Cho at UIUC. http://cho.pol.illinois.edu/wendy/ I found

Re: [FRIAM] Formalizing the concept of design

2018-11-07 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Steve, Of course, my first rule is that people should do whatever they want as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else, so far be it from me to pass judgment on anyone’s choice of ways to scope words. That can be guided by what you want the conversation to do in which you use them. That

Re: [FRIAM] Abduction

2019-01-05 Thread David Eric Smith
Nick, hi, I am about to drop permanently off this thread, because the inanity (that could be a typo for insanity) of my year is about to begin, and all time will be lost. But let me try to clarify one thing before leaving. I mean this as an acknowledgment of the respect due to people who are

Re: [FRIAM] new studies confirm existence galaxies almost-no-dark-matter

2019-03-31 Thread David Eric Smith
Thank you for this Glen, This is a really great result, which I had not been following. Eric > On Apr 1, 2019, at 6:25 AM, glen wrote: > > https://news.yale.edu/2019/03/29/new-studies-confirm-existence-galaxies-almost-no-dark-matter > >> The finding was highly significant because it showed

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-05-02 Thread David Eric Smith
> On May 2, 2019, at 8:21 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Eric writes: > > < 4. The values of those microscopic observables can evolve jointly with > values of more complicated large-actor observables that we describe as > apparatus measuring spins etc., and the branches of the large-actor

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-05-01 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Marcus et al. > On Apr 30, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Eric writes: > > < The important consequence of this understanding is that we have > mathematical formalizations of the concept of state and of observable, and > they are two different kinds of concept. It is

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-05-01 Thread David Eric Smith
On May 1, 2019, at 12:58 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Marcus wrote: > < Why do people seek this (as Eric puts it) emotional comfort with their ways > of knowing? > > > Either spacetime works in a surprising way and commonsense intuition is just > wrong -- to cling to a familiar way of knowing

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-05-01 Thread David Eric Smith
> On May 1, 2019, at 2:33 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I was just throwing out two, the wormhole idea of Maldacena & Susskind and > super-determinism described by Hooft.They seem very different to me, and > could imply two very different universes. That QM works for either doesn't >

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-05-01 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Nick, in turn, > On May 1, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > I knew I would get my ears boxed for this: Not boxed; just conversed with. > > I was in a forum with a bunch of physicists last year many of whom were > wedded to the notion that nature was determined by things

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-05-02 Thread David Eric Smith
Okay, one last, and then I die, having created as much chaos in the world as it was my place to create. > On May 1, 2019, at 8:09 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: > > The Schrodinger's cat can be both dead and un-dead, but I cannot know a thing > and not know it, except by equivocating on the meaning

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-30 Thread David Eric Smith
nick > > Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> > > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com &

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-30 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Steve, I agree with what you say below, and had a similar reaction to reading Ortega. From today’s perspective and my own scientific experience set, it would rarely seem natural to me to think of a complex human function as a novel and irreducible thing. We can see so many areas of

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-28 Thread David Eric Smith
I think Ortega y Gasset had things to say about that in Man and Crisis. I haven’t read enough to know yet whether I think his take is important. But it would be hard to find someone who picked up the question in terms more identical to those that Nick uses below to frame it. Eric > On Jul

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread David Eric Smith
of the structure-preserving map.) > > davew > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, at 12:15 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> Hi Nick, >> >> The part of the book that prompted me to forward it to the list was most of >> the first 3 (short) chapters. >> &

Re: [FRIAM] All hail confirmation bias!

2019-07-29 Thread David Eric Smith
; > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>] On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:19 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>&g

Re: [FRIAM] people figuring out WTF

2019-09-19 Thread David Eric Smith
Given the seriousness of this, the fact that it causes real harm to people that could have been avoided, it is terrible that I notice early in the article that many of the diplomats were disturbed “by a buzzing sound or high-pitched noise” prior to falling ill. It may be that I am primed for

Re: [FRIAM] Trumps motives not judiciable because they are "in his head"

2020-01-30 Thread David Eric Smith
I’m glad to have these resources, particularly the lawfare breakdowns. However, in this conversation I would like to see us separate the things we credit with reflecting on real ideas from patent political nonsense and bad faith. Dershowitz exists to prove the maxim that there isn’t really any

Re: [FRIAM] Trumps motives not judiciable because they are "in his head"

2020-01-30 Thread David Eric Smith
I don’t think finding a language to talk will come from being co-opted in a bad-faith narrative where up is down and black is white, just because some people are angry and have been led to believe they want to tear truth up to revert to a game in which it is only who has power — wrongly

Re: [FRIAM] A longer response to Dave's question

2020-02-21 Thread David Eric Smith
So Dave, > What kind of vocabulary can we apply to the substance/essence of > altered-states-of-consciousness experiences? Metaphor certainly, but > "concept," "idea," or even "knowledge?" is it possible to develop a > philosophy, an epistemology, that would be inclusive of "experience" beyond

Re: [FRIAM] wishing I believed in karma

2020-02-12 Thread David Eric Smith
The thing I particularly liked in this was that Rebecca held off on dealing with him, in the hope that perhaps brain damage would make him smarter. Of course that hope doesn’t do any good for his daughter. > On Feb 13, 2020, at 6:35 AM, glen wrote: > >

Re: [FRIAM] Eric Smith's interview on Jim Rutt's podcast

2020-02-11 Thread David Eric Smith
Thanks Steve, Yes, there is a certain thread of literature and experience that is always in my mind on this topic. It began some years ago when David Krakauer waved a copy of Richard Novikovsky’s book Games of No Chance in front of me, and that was my introduction to the modern work that had

Re: [FRIAM] Eric Smith's interview on Jim Rutt's podcast

2020-02-11 Thread David Eric Smith
Thanks for this, Steve, Yes, it was Grinspoon. Sara Walker told me that at the last AbSciCon meeting, but in the running stream of conversation with Jim I had forgotten it. Your Freudian typo was fun, unless it was your computer that did it. A mixture of Grinspoon and Greenspan. Given what

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

2020-01-19 Thread David Eric Smith
Would be interesting to know what the buffers are, that weren’t in that run of models. Temperatures are lower than forecast, but Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet melting rates are higher. They seem like small land areas, and the ice volume small, but specific heat of melting is large per

Re: [FRIAM] Murdoch and Trump

2020-01-19 Thread David Eric Smith
Sorry… My own typos are bad enough, but usually comprehensible. But when the damned computer helpfully comes in and substitutes the word it thinks I must have meant, the result is a true obscurity: > One also wants to take into account arctic se ice, which if I really is on a > faster

Re: [FRIAM] NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread David Eric Smith
I think I have been influenced on preferred frames for this question by two sources in particular. One was the writing Krugman did in the 1970s-90s on economic geography, which translating into my own current language is very much a perspective of institutional ecology with an emphasis on

Re: [FRIAM] NO LANL IN SANTA FE! Wednesday, 12; 00 outside SF City Hall; bring friends

2020-01-14 Thread David Eric Smith
I remember getting the inside story on the state of Global Circulation Modeling from Chick Hearn of IGPP (Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at LANL) back in the day when I couldn’t have got that kind of field-leading judgment/perspective from anyone else I had access to. In the

Re: [FRIAM] climate change questions

2020-01-02 Thread David Eric Smith
And not only forests. Restructure agriculture. The perennial polyculture concept for which Wes Jackson founded the Land Institute https://landinstitute.org/ Is meant to base farming on a cropping system with the structure of a prairie sod. Either farmland or

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-08 Thread David Eric Smith
ersity > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Tuesday, Apr

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-08 Thread David Eric Smith
ogy > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > S

Re: [FRIAM] anthropological observations

2020-04-18 Thread David Eric Smith
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.

Re: [FRIAM] anthropological observations

2020-04-18 Thread David Eric Smith
ns> > > That was the constructivist lambda calculus paper. Bill Mckelvey extended to > pi calculus > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:36 AM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > Very good Nick. > > You see, unfortunately it appears th

Re: [FRIAM] anthropological observations

2020-04-17 Thread David Eric Smith
Cranky Nick, you really need to join a church. > Now, what most people wanted to know from Nate Silver is whether Clinton was > going to win the election. Nate constantly says that making such predictions > is, strictly speaking, not his job. As long as what happens falls within the > error

Re: [FRIAM] RedState/BlueState OneState/TwoState

2020-04-08 Thread David Eric Smith
> Has china actually eliminated the virus from the population and the are > merely putting out sparks that have blown in from other places? I would bet very high odds that is not the case. They have probably greatly reduced the caseload. Friends there say they are rebuilding daily

Re: [FRIAM] anthropological observations

2020-04-13 Thread David Eric Smith
I think in the caes of doctors there are additional traditions, working over or alongside those that attend generic public actors or advisors. Specifically: the Hippocratic oath. I probably don’t know the true wording, but the version I always hear is “First, do no harm”. That is an

Re: [FRIAM] whackadoodles go mainstream!

2020-04-20 Thread David Eric Smith
Good article to have on hand; thanks Glen. You guys know this organism, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucochloridium_paradoxum Have I posted it to the list before? Look through the lifecycle, and particularly the video. The

Re: [FRIAM] whackadoodles go mainstream!

2020-04-20 Thread David Eric Smith
> I do not believe that any of the "theories" about the origin have any purpose > other than to point fingers, place blame. One reason for this would be to > advance other arguments — typical conspiracy nonsense, Another would be to > identify a government or a lab or any entity with deep

Re: [FRIAM] whackadoodles go mainstream!

2020-04-20 Thread David Eric Smith
is stuff *expect* to happen? > > On 4/20/20 3:57 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> As a ballpark the receptor binding domain is 211 residues, so 20^211, >> however only a small part of it seems to be actively evolving. [1] (see >> Table 1) >> >> https://www.biorx

Re: [FRIAM] whackadoodles go mainstream!

2020-04-20 Thread David Eric Smith
orxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.10.986398v1 > > <https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.10.986398v1> > > > > *From: *Friam > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> on behalf of David Eric Smith > > mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> > > *Reply-

Re: [FRIAM] anthropological observations

2020-04-18 Thread David Eric Smith
Yes, both Eric C. and Marcus have already answered this better than what I am about to say, because they have already abstracted it into concepts. But I will put only a particular. I got this from the polymath Elwyn Berlekamp (who did run a hedge fund) in the kitchen on an Erdos-like visit by

Re: [FRIAM] Coronavirus New Mexico numbers.xlsx

2020-03-30 Thread David Eric Smith
So this article looks like it points to interesting data: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-restrictions-fevers.html The limitation there will be representativeness of the sample, since there

Re: [FRIAM] whackadoodles go mainstream!

2020-04-21 Thread David Eric Smith
to get a better foothold in the hosts. >> Then as the host and parasite relax into one another, any obvious pressure >> would fade and it would look more random. >> >> Regardless of the design question, it seems like a virus that is *likely* to >>

Re: [FRIAM] Bayes Rules and Base Rates Count

2020-04-30 Thread David Eric Smith
Yes, while the clip was a nice explanation about Bayesian updating, the narrator’s statement that we need to make assumptions about prevalence seem to me like they send the viewer on a wrong turn. It’s just an affine transform. If you know the sensitivity and the selectivity of your test

Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question

2020-05-03 Thread David Eric Smith
I can’t weave a grand diorama that has the meaning of everything in it, and anything I try will come out a mess. So let me try for Less is More. I think part of this is habit and commitments. Somehow the society has to sort out a predictable way to arrive at who has a right to consume how

Re: [FRIAM] ill-conceived question

2020-05-03 Thread David Eric Smith
be not... > https://vimeo.com/411278238 <https://vimeo.com/411278238> > > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:23 AM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > I can’t weave a grand diorama that has the meaning of everything in it, and > anything I try will

Re: [FRIAM] the end of the pandemic

2020-05-11 Thread David Eric Smith
Replying to the Snoke post, and only to a specific part of it: Why bother to put a bunch of text into refuting logical fallacies in screeds that were never about deduction in the first place? Here is the republican version. BOASTING: We have dismembered the government! FEINED OUTRAGE: The

Re: [FRIAM] sum of atomic spectra == 9000K black body?

2020-05-12 Thread David Eric Smith
Frank, > On May 13, 2020, at 7:31 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > When I worked at the PIttsburgh Supercomputing Center, a division of CMU, we > had a user who produced a visualization of the first few milliseconds after > the big bang. How can they do that? > > Didn't Penzias and Wilson win

[FRIAM] Who gains and who loses

2020-05-16 Thread David Eric Smith
Sorry, but this was too rich. From the general overview blurb https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/live-coronavirus-news-cases-deaths.html Defying state rules, Atwater, Calif., declares itself a ‘sanctuary city’

[FRIAM] Positively selected mutations

2020-05-05 Thread David Eric Smith
Have you guys seen this one: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1 From Tanmoy Bhattacharya et al. Does not look like good news. Eric .-. .- -. -.. --- -- -..-. -.. --- - ... -..-. .- -. -.. -..-. -.. .- ...

Re: [FRIAM] What Is the Real Coronavirus Toll in Each State? - The New York Times

2020-05-07 Thread David Eric Smith
There was an article on this, I think NYT, I think sometime last week. So some group is currently doing that on some data set. I too would like to see it done more comprehensively and systematically by some group. Probably I saw the article because somebody posted it to this list. Slap me

Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

2020-05-05 Thread David Eric Smith
I think the phenomenologists would claim that until you have realized that all worlds are only “inner worlds”, you haven’t properly interpreted the informal use of the word “world” into a philosophically serious frame. Of course they are Continental Philosophers. So one has the option to

Re: [FRIAM] Movement vs. Behavior, and what's in the Black Box

2020-05-10 Thread David Eric Smith
> No one but me knows the content of this message until i click "send" and > they read it. I think you can argue that even this has two layers. There is a narrative “you” that knows the content of the message _after_ it has been typed out but before it has been sent. By then it is an

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-19 Thread David Eric Smith
As I read this,I am reminded of the 20th century (seems to long ago), in which the high-energy physicists dug a social pit for themselves, from which the ones they offended do not want ever to let them escape. Keyword is Reductionism. The narrative went something like this (HEP = High Energy

Re: [FRIAM] Warring Darwinians for Glen, Steve

2020-05-06 Thread David Eric Smith
> Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:54 PM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Gr

Re: [FRIAM] Outbreak Simulation

2020-03-21 Thread David Eric Smith
Yes, exactly. > 1.8 million people at a 1% fatality rate. That’s what you get in countries that can give the best of their health service to patients who get very sick. Italy’s death rate is currently around 10%. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Re: [FRIAM] hidden

2020-05-19 Thread David Eric Smith
I like this Glen, particularly the following: > On May 20, 2020, at 2:10 AM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > > I really wish more people would/could permanently install a "methodological" > qualifier in front of every -ism they advocate. So, if you call yourself a > monist, are you a methodological monist?

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread David Eric Smith
Signal to Nick: You commented on wanting to understand the conversation about formalists and intuitionists which I have been using in various conversations with Glen and Jon. Now is the chance to do it at low cost. Frank has provided two proofs of irrationality of the square root of 2, one

Re: [FRIAM] anonymity/deniability/ambiguity

2020-05-21 Thread David Eric Smith
itus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > Clark University > thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> > > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish

Re: [FRIAM] Peirce & Postmordernism

2020-05-23 Thread David Eric Smith
There was a joke Martin Shubik used to like to tell about academics. Excuse me; about parrots. A man sells parrots. They have different costs, colors, habits, etc. This one here’s pretty but not too expensive, he can say 5 words. This one’s more expensive; he can say 50 words. This African

Re: [FRIAM] The Second Wave is Gathering

2020-05-23 Thread David Eric Smith
One should do a regression against the popular vote and against the electoral vote. See if the difference between those regression coefficients carries even more information than the separate values. > On May 24, 2020, at 4:04 AM, > wrote: > >

Re: [FRIAM] OFFLINE:Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-07 Thread David Eric Smith
It’s interesting you should have ended your email with that term, Nick. I just (in a different medium) learned the meaning of it a few weeks ago. But a more complete source is https://www.yesmagazine.org/economy/2015/05/20/is-west-virginia-s-coal-history-a-goldmine-mine-wars/

Re: [FRIAM] Today's Sermon:: a minor awokening

2020-09-07 Thread David Eric Smith
press.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f=E,1,VNlIV0H6_ijgBZ50QvMRueLCKENvHgY-HkEk3P2QMOdrw-ZmGEGqCb1X_9VCsN-XDrLU6-1tssKR8B-yOrCW6hgbRckkq0m6lL4_6tNjKLs2=1> > > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>

Re: [FRIAM] Getting You Libertarians' Goats

2020-09-13 Thread David Eric Smith
This idea of places where people of different walks “encounter each other” — or even better have something meaningful to do with each other, has an interesting role at a certain period of social change in Japan. From a friend and colleague:

Re: [FRIAM] Logo/Ideo/Phono graphic language

2020-10-13 Thread David Eric Smith
nt extremist willingness to *assert >>>>> their will* on others under the guise of protecting *their will from >>>>> subversion* . When I was younger (more juiced on the hormones and >>>>> rhetoric and appeal of competition?) I was more seduced by

Re: [FRIAM] Logo/Ideo/Phono graphic language

2020-10-13 Thread David Eric Smith
>>>>> rhetoric and appeal of competition?) I was more seduced by some of that. >>>>> Now it just makes me feel systemically ill. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know you well Carl, but from what I do think I know, you are >>>>> clearly

Re: [FRIAM] labels

2020-10-13 Thread David Eric Smith
Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 3:47 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] labels > > Yes, and not only Ugh. >

Re: [FRIAM] Political compass teest

2020-10-12 Thread David Eric Smith
So this is metastasizing now, and there have been other decades when it wasn’t such a problem, or at least not as overt. Is that due to demographic sorting? In more prosperous (or even just earlier) times, enough people stayed near where they were born that cultures got some mix of

Re: [FRIAM] 8^D

2020-10-12 Thread David Eric Smith
I think it is a grand metaphor, meant to bring in the whole of one of the briefest postal correspondences in the literature of science. Boltzmann to his publisher: ? Publisher back to Boltamann: ! What did Churchill say? The two things that modern man would worst miss were a classical

Re: [FRIAM] labels

2020-10-16 Thread David Eric Smith
ris from noise requires some sort of > prior model. We have to decide kindasorta what we're looking for before we > start willy-nilly inferring. (While relatively agnostic inference algorithms > like empirical mode decomposition are always attractive, TANSTAAFL.) > > On 1

Re: [FRIAM] labels

2020-10-10 Thread David Eric Smith
Yes, and not only Ugh. The two places this bothers me as a category error are: 1. It conflates writing the rules of the game and being a player in the game. Shubik used to harp on this: that the government’s role as the declarer of monetary policy, and as the participant in fiscal policy,

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

2020-10-07 Thread David Eric Smith
Conley is an osteopath. Atlas is a radiologist. The AMA tries to weed out the crazy or corrupt, and considering how many really good doctors they manage to train and certify from a broad public of ordinary ability (the category in which I would put all of us as well), I think they deserve

Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim

2020-10-07 Thread David Eric Smith
On Oct 7, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I’d say if there is some kind of communication that can occur (verbal or > non-verbal) that entity has higher status than those than cannot engage in > communication. > There ia a fun example of this from ethnography, which I used to

Re: [FRIAM] 8^D

2020-10-13 Thread David Eric Smith
> possibly be as empty-headed as he seems. So there must be some deep structure > we could tease out if we had the energy." > > I've never heard the Chruchill quote, where's it from? > > On 10/12/20 2:01 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> I think it is a grand metaphor, me

Re: [FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

2020-08-20 Thread David Eric Smith
So it’s not for the US today, but the thing that put Scott Boorman on the map (and fairly quickly got him installed in Yale), was an attempt to be a bit systematic and disciplined, and commit to some specific interpretations, for Mao and the infludnence of Go on military strategy across much of

Re: [FRIAM] vaccine

2020-08-23 Thread David Eric Smith
If one had time to do a good study design (which sounds hard), it would be nice to create measures of social trust (what can you count on other people to do for you) and responsibility (what you believe you owe to others and feel compelled to provide). Then divide into the same cohorts, and

Re: [FRIAM] vaccine

2020-08-24 Thread David Eric Smith
g/unifying trust into any single app, org, or person will > always be a mistake. > > On August 23, 2020 4:42:42 PM CDT, David Eric Smith > wrote: >> >> if Redfield is directing the CDC, and Azar is directing whatever he >> directs, and a month before Election

Re: [FRIAM] vaccine

2020-08-24 Thread David Eric Smith
n be damaging, I have faith in the overwhelming majority of > those people to continue the work they do. And to whatever tiny extent I can, > I'll help them do that work. > > > On August 23, 2020 10:29:54 PM PDT, David Eric Smith > wrote: >> Well, if that’s “the key point”, th

Re: [FRIAM] "Brown eggs are local eggs and local eggs are FRESH!"

2020-08-17 Thread David Eric Smith
>> >> Nicholas Thompson >> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology >> Clark University >> thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a

Re: [FRIAM] why some people hate cops

2020-09-24 Thread David Eric Smith
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >I guess the only thing I hate more than cops are religious people. Defrock the police? > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ??? > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:50 AM > To: FriAM > Subject:

Re: [FRIAM] ideas are lies

2020-09-29 Thread David Eric Smith
dasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f=E,1,IB2E1zZAsGNqVDZj0GAeTQFl2odRWRGNj9sngoGhIyX_cM7bfrPfsYfl-GBG8mGY12gGjJGRSqiBzAzo8nES9aGILsPL_aEJXN3Bcdh6O4WnCxDA5NXYgCtuzg,,=1 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >

Re: [FRIAM] constructionism, textualism, and originalism

2020-09-23 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Glen, I don’t know how one defines it as a method, but the approach I usually hear contrasted with Originalism comes associated with “living document” language. The idea being that any legal statement cannot take any meaning but in the context of its time (socially accepted norms,

Re: [FRIAM] darwin

2020-09-26 Thread David Eric Smith
There is also a passage in one of the books, off one of the coasts of S. America, when Darwin is in a small boat, which a few locals, and at least one slave in some capacity (maybe not boat driver; maybe going with the group to do something; I forget). Somebody (either Darwin or one of the

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

2020-09-25 Thread David Eric Smith
Steve, probably I should have responded the first time to the main line in your post, which Nick automatically highlighted. > On Sep 25, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Stephen Guerin > wrote: > > First was to use Marcus's post as a reiteration of evidence to Eric the deep > disdain and hatred many in

Re: [FRIAM] ideas are lies

2020-09-28 Thread David Eric Smith
Yeah, agree with Pat, agree with Glen. I will say it in a way that seems inevitably to be ruder, though I don’t wish to be rude. I find libertarian thinking, in any forms I have encountered that have agency in the world, to be willfully disingenuous about the things that actually cause

Re: [FRIAM] for Nick - prurient entymology

2020-10-03 Thread David Eric Smith
That’s cool, > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2020 12:50 PM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: [FRIAM] for Nick - prurient entymology > > Editor - Roman title for someone charged with organizing human sacrifices Meaning hasn’t

Re: [FRIAM] God in Science and Religion (was Re: why some people hate cops)

2020-09-25 Thread David Eric Smith
Hi Steve, I thought about trying to reply, because I got tangled in some small activity of this kind a month or two ago, but wasn’t sure there was much value to what I had to say. People are all different. There are patterns I think I see, but I expect that umbrellas like “religious” are so

Re: [FRIAM] More distraction

2020-05-28 Thread David Eric Smith
No, I think Merle has put her finger exactly on something for which I have been looking, in irritation, for years. Cassandrafreude is another form of vanity. On my farmer list, we have a couple of people who are constituted of it. I don’t think there is anything else left of their

Re: [FRIAM] Interdisciplinary work

2020-05-27 Thread David Eric Smith
Thank you for this, Merle, I always tried to make that the term of use, and mostly failed. Transdicsciplinary is a person with a foot in each of two boats. Not the most comfortable place to stand, but different. Interdisciplinary is the person standing between the two boats without a foot in

Re: [FRIAM] Metaphor [POSSIBLE DISTRACTON FROM]: privacy games

2020-05-28 Thread David Eric Smith
Yes, I second this. The way Glen puts the point is exactly right. > On May 28, 2020, at 11:14 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Good, Glen. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Thu, May 28, 2020, 7:50 AM uǝlƃ ☣

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