Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-27 Thread Richard Gerome
So where is the Wizard??? I would like to visit Oz!!! To see the Lion on a new Apple!!! P.S. This is how they never end... -Original Message- >From: Bill Connelly >Sent: Oct 27, 2010 10:48 AM >To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: IS the world about to chan

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Joshua Juran
On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Oct 26, 4:34 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: The only concrete example I can think of is at the Intel introduction where Jobs stated that the PowerPC was definitely going to be supported through the next OS version, which it was. 10.4 to 10.5 also

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Oct 26, 3:03 pm, Bill Connelly wrote: Is this thread ever going to end? I have been wondering the same thing... :-) "This is the thread that never ends It goes on and on and on, my friends... Someone started writing it not knowing what it

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread admin
But are the operating system (reaching 64-bit) and computers really changing much any more? They both seem to have matured to me. On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Apple has built and deliberately demolished their business several times: Apple II to Mac, Mac OS to OS X (and

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Jeff Bequette
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Sales of desktop computers in general are dropping in favour of portable units, like classic laptops or the “newly invented” smaller version of it: netbooks. Netbook sales have crash

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Ashgrove wrote: Is this thread ever going to end? I have been wondering the same thing... :-) "there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished" From:

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 26, 3:03 pm, Bill Connelly wrote: > Is this thread ever going to end? I have been wondering the same thing... :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ i

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 26, 4:34 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > The only concrete example I can think of is at the Intel introduction where > Jobs stated that the PowerPC was definitely going to be supported through the > next OS version, which it was. 10.4 to 10.5 also took a lot longer than > previous iterations

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 26, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Dan wrote: At 2:02 PM -0600 10/26/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Is that so? I heard that the computer segment in general is booming right now, not as much as Apple of course, but still, the market advan

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Dan wrote: > At 2:02 PM -0600 10/26/2010, James Therrault wrote: >> On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >>> Is that so? I heard that the computer segment in general is booming right >>> now, >>> not as much as Apple of course, but still, th

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Swigart, Kurt A [NTK] wrote: > > I think Bruce Johnson missed the point on that last poster. You're not > exercising a sense of entitlement by pointing out that a corporation has > abandoned their original core beliefs. >From where are you getting "Apple's origi

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Dan
At 2:02 PM -0600 10/26/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Is that so? I heard that the computer segment in general is booming right now, not as much as Apple of course, but still, the market advances and the profits too. Here's a view o

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N From:Dan To: g3-5-list@googlegroup

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bill Connelly
Is this thread ever going to end? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.l

RE: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Swigart, Kurt A [NTK]
ge- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:13 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread JoeTaxpayer
>From http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=107357&p=irol-faq#corpinfo2 Q: What is Apple's mission statement? A: Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world, along with OS X, iLife, iWork, and professional software. Apple leads the digital music revolution with its iPods and

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 > wrote: > >> -- Original message ---------- >> Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? >> Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N >>

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:05 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: > Sales of desktop computers in general are dropping in favour of portable > units, like classic laptops or the “newly invented” smaller version of it: > netbooks. Netbook sales have crashed since the introduction of the iPad. Laptop sales

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: > -- Original message -- > Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? > Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N > From:Dan > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > > […] The world economy is in an

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-26 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Freitag 22 Oktober 2010N From:Dan To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > […] The world economy is in an awfully deep hole right > now. Yet, Apple's sales are booming, while the companie

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 25, 2:13 am, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: >  That department has hundreds of Macs of all ages form the early Aught's to > present. This department was put into a refurbed historic building and is > state of the art for 3 years ago when it was completed. It replaces the > building where

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 24, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: The ONLY reason our college has Mac support at ALL is me, and it's pure happenstance that I work where I work, because I had some experience programming, a teensy bit of database experience and a willingness to dive into terra in

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an >> early Intel Mac laptop. >> The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine.

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > Her use of the conversational alternatives reminds me that were rich text >> to >> be legitimized on LEM we could use text formatting such as font or color >> to >> intercu

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 24, 3:34 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > (in my case: one of each...I never use Dashboard, couldn't live   > without Spaces). That makes two of us. I started using Desktop Manager in Tiger before Leopard even reared its spotted head, and was very grateful when Apple added the multiple simultane

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2010, at 10:33 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine. The wide screen HQ files were only 1024 wide or so but played

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2010, at 2:40 PM, John Callahan wrote: Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about "IS the world about to change ?" is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-24 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Her use of the conversational alternatives reminds me that were rich text to be legitimized on LEM we could use text formatting such as font or color to intercut and clarify for those who are challenged by comparing the response

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
I took a video project to the talent's home tonight. They brought out an early Intel Mac laptop. The files were Quicktime. The small resolution overview played fine. The wide screen HQ files were only 1024 wide or so but played haltingly. Yuck! And streaming video off youtube was a joke. I do not

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 9:40 PM, John Callahan wrote: > (snip) > Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about "IS the > world about to change ?" is and although I have read thousands of comments > about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have >

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Powermac
Still have that 8500 case and the machine works great, but I have moved on to a G4 1.25Ghz Quicksilver for my fastest hobby mac (I am still a PC user for boring work related stuff). While I don't use the 8500 daily like I used to, that machine has been 100% reliable using the same components I purc

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread John Callahan
On Oct 23, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Dan wrote: GUI A graphical user interface (GUI), often pronounced gooey,[1] is a type of user interface that allows users to interact with programs in more ways than typing such as computers; hand-held devices such as MP3 players, portable media players or g

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Dan
At 5:40 PM -0400 10/23/2010, John Callahan wrote: Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about "IS the world about to change ?" is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done somet

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread John Callahan
(snip) Recently I had the temerity to ask what all the conversation about "IS the world about to change ?" is and although I have read thousands of comments about the subject failed to receive an answer. Either no one knows or I have somehow done something to offend the Lords of the Manor

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/20 12:55, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I went to the Apple site to watch the streaming video of the presentation and was rudely greeted with this: "Streaming video requires Safari 4 or 5 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Safari on iOS 3 or later." I'm on a PPC G5 with 10.5.8 and curre

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Dan wrote: > At 6:25 PM + 10/23/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac wrote: >> Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor >> stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Als

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Dan wrote: > At 6:25 PM + 10/23/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac wrote: >> Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor >> stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Als

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Dan
At 6:25 PM + 10/23/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac wrote: Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Also learn to work on your own machines when they fail, this

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/20 10:50, john Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Fluxstringer wrote: Lion ? Will Lion be compatible with PPC G5? Don't we wish. On second thought, maybe not. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Powermac wrote: > Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor > stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Also learn to > work on your own machines when they fail, this means buying some basic > tools and using google to fi

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Tina K.
On 2010/10/20 17:03, Eric Herbert so eloquently wrote: This sounds awful since I've been an Apple user since birth (Parents bought their first Apple 2 weeks before I was born!) but if Apple goes ahead with this "kindergarten" approach they show on Lion, I may consider running Windows. Don't do

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Dan
At 6:55 AM -0700 10/23/2010, Powermac wrote: Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. Back in the 68k and PPC days, "low end" to me was any Mac not current. These days, "low end" to me is all 68k and PPC Macs, plus all Macs with x86 processors - current and previous. The fact

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Powermac
Low end to me means the basic models, starter systems. If you are poor stick to an older used PC you can get for little money. Also learn to work on your own machines when they fail, this means buying some basic tools and using google to find fixes. The fact is the computer indistry doesn't care w

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sarge3041969 wrote: > I am kinda > wondering what > we are supposed to do with all of these old Macs now that Apple has > deemed > them as useless? Maybe they will go the way of the old Mac Classics > with > everyone trying to make aquariums out of them? Strong

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-23 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 22, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, glen wrote: The make do's is what what life is about. Since I done the do's all my life (not just computers) , I don't know what I would do without them. -- Seriously consider it

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Richard Gerome
ts on them...P.S. Oh yeah my car is 22yrs old with almost 350,000 miles on it with original eng and trans!!! Still gets me all over the country pulling a 19' 1966 Avion camper!!!-Original Message- From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio Sent: Oct 22, 2010 11:22 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Chance Reecher
I like the way everyone keeps complaining about not being able to watch the Keynote... Apple does have an H.264 "Apple Events" podcast in iTunes, you know. On 10/22/10 8:36 PM, Jeff Bequette wrote: It was kinda annoying I could watch the speech on the iPhone, but not on my Mac... Jeff

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:59 PM, glen wrote: > > > > > > >From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > > > When you have done it all your life, " make dos", work arounds, Goldberg > and > McGivering get very old and tiresome. PCs promise a lot and deliver > headaches > whether 'Nux or Winslowz. I am tired

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Jeff Bequette
On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:24 PM + 10/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is I think Apple is simply responding to customer desires, good or bad. People want laptops that are more rugged and have better battery life. Currently, t

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread glen
> >From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio When you have done it all your life, " make dos", work arounds, Goldberg and McGivering get very old and tiresome. PCs promise a lot and deliver headaches whether 'Nux or Winslowz. I am tired ... LOW END to me means poor. People too poor to afford new com

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Doug McNutt
At 17:38 + 10/22/10, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote, or perhaps quoted someone: I think Apple is simply responding to customer desires, good or bad. *** From a recent question posted on the AppleScript mailing list - which I trimmed quite a bit. I've written a pretty extensive Quicktime edi

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: > This is the reason that I really don't care about new Apple products. > I use what I use, and when something of mine breaks I look for the > thing that does what it used to do in the nicest, cheapest, and > fastest way possible. New apple

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Dan wrote: > At 3:24 PM + 10/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is what this thread is about and not the > fact that I was inspired by " LION" and Apple/Jobs going deep to the dark > side is what this is about > > > I

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Illirik Smirnov
This is the reason that I really don't care about new Apple products. I use what I use, and when something of mine breaks I look for the thing that does what it used to do in the nicest, cheapest, and fastest way possible. New apple products don't do things that my old Apple (and other manufacturer

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Dan
Title: Re: IS the world about to change ? At 3:24 PM + 10/22/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is what this thread is about and not the fact that I was inspired by " LION" and Apple/Jobs going deep to the dark side is what this is about I

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < > fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < >> fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < > fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < >> fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < > fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < >> fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < > fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sri Gupta wrote: >> >>> On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, "ah...clem" wrote:

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < fluxstrin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sri Gupta wrote: > >> On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, "ah...clem" wrote: >> > translation, not anytime soon. tho' a mechanical device, a HD's >> > reliable life is still more tha

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sri Gupta wrote: > On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, "ah...clem" wrote: > > translation, not anytime soon. tho' a mechanical device, a HD's > > reliable life is still more than one order of magnitude greater than > > the best (most expensive) SSD currently available. SSD's ha

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
Yeah, NAND cycles and SD vs HD is what this thread is about and not the factthat I was inspired by " LION" and Apple/Jobs going deep to the dark side is what this is about -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Sri Gupta
On Oct 21, 9:46 pm, "ah...clem" wrote: > translation, not anytime soon.  tho' a mechanical device, a HD's > reliable life is still more than one order of magnitude greater than > the best (most expensive) SSD currently available.  SSD's have a > finite number of read/write cycles that just doesn't

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-22 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:48 PM, glen wrote: > > > > > > >From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > > >> > Content with prettier eye candy sells ideas If you cannot keep up with the > current "style" your content looks flaky and suspect. Think here of > mimeographed > > political flyers when Xerox came

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Dan
At 7:46 PM -0700 10/21/2010, ah...clem wrote: a HD's reliable life is still more than one order of magnitude greater than the best (most expensive) SSD currently available. SSD's have a finite number of read/write cycles that just doesn't compare to a well-built HD (quantum, seagate, maxtor).

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread ah...clem
On Oct 21, 11:13 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Tom wrote: > > > I notice that Apple's new laptop computers will have flash drives > > instead of hard drives. Does that mean that flash drives will > > eventually replace hard drives in all computers, then? > > That's been

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread glen
> >From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio >> Content with prettier eye candy sells ideas If you cannot keep up with the current "style" your content looks flaky and suspect. Think here of mimeographed political flyers when Xerox came out. The medium in itself is a semaphore subtexting and toning

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Dan wrote: At 5:48 PM -0600 10/21/2010, James Therrault wrote: Exactly my sentiments and Apple may pay a price for the arrogance... Yea, all the way to the bank. AAPL is still trading over $300. Have you taken your profits yet? No. I have never really had

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Dan
At 5:48 PM -0600 10/21/2010, James Therrault wrote: Exactly my sentiments and Apple may pay a price for the arrogance... Yea, all the way to the bank. AAPL is still trading over $300. Have you taken your profits yet? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You recei

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Dan
At 9:41 PM + 10/21/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Does it seem strange to anyone else that in an era when we hear a lot of lip service about the nobility of free enterprise and business efforts that a big company like Apple is out of tune with what small businesses need in a computer

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: -- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Donnerstag 21 Oktober 2010N From:Bruce Johnson To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: If

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: ...comments about the struggle on the street level I can well identify with. Steve jobs has lost touch with the needs of the masses he sought in the old days. Now there's a mouthful. Exactly my sentiments and Apple may pay a

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Oct 21, 3:16 pm, James Therrault wrote: Having the latest 'n greatest is fine and justifiable if your in the business that requires it. Macs don't fall into this category as the PC world owns that domain. That said, a very substantial number o

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Mac User #330250
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? Date:Donnerstag 21 Oktober 2010N From:Bruce Johnson To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: > If you don't like it there are alternativ

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Mac User #330250
There are two categories of people. The one always puts people into a category, the other just knows that this doesn't work. [As a non native speaker I have the fearful feeling that this translation sucks…] -- Original message -- Subject: Re: IS the world about to c

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
Does it seem strange to anyone else that in an era when we hear a lot of lip service about the nobility of free enterprise and business efforts that a big company like Apple is out of tune with what small businesses need in a computer. Where the hell is that $ 500 ( not kidding Steve, that is the p

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > On 10/21/10 1:58 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > wrote: > > > Your comments about the struggle on the street level I can well identify > with. > Steve jobs has lost touch with the needs of the masses he sought in the old > days. > > Thank y

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > > > It's usually people who make > minor machine jumps that b*tch. For example going from a 4 year old > machine > to a 3 year old machine instead of hitting the head of the curve. If these > people shelled out a few more bucks they would

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 10/21/10 1:58 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Richard Gerome > wrote: >> >> >>    Hey Brian, I agree with you on that it is cool but: why is it we can't >> still run our old machines too without more trouble whenever they come out >> with faste

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: > > >Hey Brian, I agree with you on that it is cool but: why is it we can't > still run our old machines too without more trouble whenever they come out > with faster and better stuff??? I don't care if it's slower I just want to > do what

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 21, 2:27 pm, Kyle Hansen wrote: > Listen, I feel your pain, I have an SE-30 sitting right here.  I know this > is Lowendmac, but the Sawtooth G4 should be considered vintage at this > point. Back when I was nannying the PM 8500 list machines that were a three > or so years back were conside

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 21, 3:16 pm, James Therrault wrote: > Having the latest 'n greatest is fine and justifiable if your in the   > business that requires it. > > Macs don't fall into this category as the PC world owns that domain. > > That said, a very substantial number of Mac owners own older Macs as   > do

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 10/21/10 12:16 PM, "James Therrault" wrote: > Having the latest 'n greatest is fine and justifiable if your in the > business that requires it. > > Macs don't fall into this category as the PC world owns that domain. Actually I work for a number of large Bay Area firms and they are switching

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 10/21/10 10:57 AM, "Ashgrove" wrote: > On Oct 21, 12:21 pm, Bruce Johnson > wrote: >> Someone on this list who hasn't bought a new Mac in a decade has no grounds >> to bitch and moan...you're literally looking for a free ride. This is the >> very thing that's  made Microsoft the lumbering din

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Dan
At 10:54 AM -0600 10/21/2010, Doug McNutt wrote: If we lose the optical disk what will we have for archiving? External burners, hard drives, tape drives, and The Cloud -- just like we do now. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Ashgrove wrote: The issue here --for me at least, and for several people here as well-- is not the natural course of life, or the too rapid pace of computer development. We're talking about "forced" obsolescence, which Apple seems to be perfecting into a form of a

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Dan
At 9:26 AM -0700 10/20/2010, Fluxstringer wrote: Lion ? Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Leopard, Snow Leopard ... all cats known for their sleek stealthy attack speed. Tiger ... a more full featured cat, but still a good hunter. Lion ... hum. Notice that the pic Apple has chosen is the mal

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Ashgrove
On Oct 21, 12:21 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Someone on this list who hasn't bought a new Mac in a decade has no grounds > to bitch and moan...you're literally looking for a free ride. This is the > very thing that's  made Microsoft the lumbering dinosaur it is, having to > provide that free rid

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread John Callahan
I'm confused! What is this change that so many people are talking about? Thanks On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: Subject: Re: IS the world about to change ? I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!!

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Ted Treen
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, "We are now in Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it." If one follows stocks at all, Dell's been languishing in th

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, "We are now in Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it." If one follows stocks at all,

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Doug McNutt
If we lose the optical disk what will we have for archiving? Financial data coming from the bank is rapidly moving to computer files. What about those pictures we take to help in filing a fire insurance claim? Your last decade of income tax filings. Home-written CD-ROMs are not the best but the

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: > Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, "We are now in > Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it." > If one follows stocks at all, Dell's been languishing in the cellar while > App

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread James Therrault
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:38 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, James Therrault wrote: snip Since that time, I've seen Apple go through two major OS changes, (68xxx, PPC and lastly Intel), and while each of these changes certainly advanced the user

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 21, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > This may help. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model > You DO know that research has shown her model is as valid as the Phlogiston model of chemistry, right? Well-reasoned, meticulously detailed and utterly frac

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Tom wrote: > I notice that Apple's new laptop computers will have flash drives > instead of hard drives. Does that mean that flash drives will > eventually replace hard drives in all computers, then? That's been predicted for about 20 years now. Hard drives are one

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Richard Gerome
hire you now because they do a credit check too ("hey I'm here for a job not a loan") I got into this credit problem because of loosing my job in the first place... WTF is this all about???-Original Message- From: Brian Christmas Sent: Oct 21, 2010 5:40 AM To: g3-5-list@goo

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
By default, the hard drive has been hidden on Every version of OS X. By d -- Bruce On Oct 20, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: >> 2) The demo didn't show a hard drive on the desktop, but we'd still have >> access to it right? > > By default the hard drive is hidden from the Desktop

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Jeff Bequette
the bottom line Air has only the flash drive and skinny to recommend it. As my high school daughter told her friend in the apple store one, day, "It's a poser computer for looking pretty in coffee shops- no dvd, get a macbook instead." She was glared at by the genius in the area. If I wa

Re: IS the world about to change ?

2010-10-21 Thread Brian Christmas
On 21/10/2010, at 10:58 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: > > On 21/10/2010, at 10:20 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >> >> This may help. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model > > > > Very intere

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