Re: New problem with gmail with 10.11.2 version of Mail
> On Dec 9, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Dan A <listmis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, this question may be too soon to ask. I was having smtp problems > with Mail in 10.11.1 where I could not correct smtp garbles (which > didn't exist in 10.10.9) What do you mean by ‘smtp garbles’? > even if I deleted and re constructed certain > email addresses, no problem with any of my gmail accounts. Today I've > upgraded to 10.11.2 hoping that Apple fixed the bugs in Mail... and it > actually did. I was able to get all my accounts to send mail... but a > new problem arose with the 5 individual gmail accounts my wife and I > have. Now when I test the outgoing gmail out of the new Mail app, the > mail goes but each email from the individual account has the same > header on top using one of my wifes gmail account addresses, the same > one of her accounts in each message no matter which address was the > sender. Do you mean the ‘From’ portion? Or some other headers? Can you post the header(s) you’re talking about? (You can obscure the addresses if you want) Just wondering: are these set up as Google accounts, or as IMAP Accounts? I’ve never had issues sending from gmail, but I’ve got only a single account. Maybe setting each one as an IMAP account will fix the issues? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mail start-up issue
At one time I had selected Mail to open automatically at start-up by checking it in System Preferences/Accounts/Login Items. But now I don't want it to, so have unchecked it. However, it insists on continuing to open automatically at start-up/restart. What's going on here? Computer is a PowerMac G4, dual-processor mirror drive door (PowerMac3,6), Boot ROM 4.4.8f2, running OS 10.5.8. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 1, 2014, at 03:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) [snip - my griping about the conversion process in general] Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? pffft. They'll pry my ppc macs out of my cold dead hands. (not to be confused with my saying the same thing about Eudora a few years ago). With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. The transition from the standard unix mailbox to the proprietary index with separate message files occurred in Leopard. That's why I now gots an additional 100,000+ files on me drive. I see now that Apple has changed their file format/set-up three times, during the transitions to Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion. That's got me thinking: The older versions of Mail do not run on newer versions of the OS. So how are people and businesses (with a legal requirement) handling this inability to read their backups and archives? How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. Yea, it's there if the files are attachments. If they're in-line, then it's AWOL. I've discovered that I can drag individual images to a fold in Finder, if I'm patient (Finder has to see each drag before you let go of the mouse). I guess that will work on messages that contain only a few files. Any idea where Mail is stashing these? Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. Nothing pertaining to saving images tho. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. Thx, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. My bad, I meant the *default* default browser, which is Safari :-/ I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. Yea, it's there if the files are attachments. If they're in-line, then it's AWOL. That’s odd, because I picked one with a whole bunch of inline attachments. I don’t have a 10.5 system handy to check though. Wish I could get PearPC to compile because the tun/tap network adapter flat does not work in VirtualBox :-( OS X with no network is useless for my needs, and no one’s been able to get the jit stuff working http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5757 Of course, PearPC is more or less dead, no updates in years; everyone went to MacHacks instead :-/ I've discovered that I can drag individual images to a fold in Finder, if I'm patient (Finder has to see each drag before you let go of the mouse). I guess that will work on messages that contain only a few files. Any idea where Mail is stashing these? I suspect it’s not ‘stashing’ them anywhere, but decoding them out of the mail message source at runtime. IAC I cannot find any place attachments are saved separately in my mail stores, just .emlx files, which contain the raw email source with a .plist appended to the end for book-keeping purposes. Mail doesn’t work like Eudora splitting attachments away from messages like that. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. I could have sworn I saw that the other day when I looked :-( Guess I’m wrong. I found a $30 application that says they can do this. You might try using ‘smart' mailboxes. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
I’ve had a problem with Apple Mail not being consistent as to Applying the RULES that you have formulated.. And that’s been from day one that they included it in Apple’s MAIL BTW, I go back to 1986 and Mac OS (they didn’t call it OS back then) System ver. 6.8 RHB That’s why I bought Spam Sieve for my OS10.10.1 w/Mail ver 5.5.1 Unit … and no longer use the Quicksilver w/Leopard for eMail an web access. One thing I liked about Eudora was the ability to bounce back to the sender, unwanted eMails. RHB . On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: O On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) . My default web browser, as selected in Safari's preferences, is either a newer WebKit app, or TenFourFox. So Mail is *not* using the same engine. I think I'll try Cam's suggestion of relinking Mail. That will fix the slow rendering issues. Still need a way to outright throw the email... How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. How do I add a rule to the Sent mailbox? I'm not seeing that the rules are being applied to anything when sending. Thx, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Robert H. Baucom rbt...@owc.netmailto:rbt...@owc.net wrote: I’ve had a problem with Apple Mail not being consistent as to Applying the RULES that you have formulated.. And that’s been from day one that they included it in Apple’s MAIL BTW, I go back to 1986 and Mac OS (they didn’t call it OS back then) System ver. 6.8 RHB That’s why I bought Spam Sieve for my OS10.10.1 w/Mail ver 5.5.1 Unit … and no longer use the Quicksilver w/Leopard for eMail an web access. One thing I liked about Eudora was the ability to bounce back to the sender, unwanted eMails. Mail used to have that option; but it no longer does, mainly because it just increases the total spam load on the system because the ‘from’ address is rarely the real place it came from. To be honest, I’ve never really like client-side mail rules; I always had the luxury of being able to set up server-side ones. Note: if you use your iCloud email address you can set the rules on the iCloud server, which will filter email before it goes to your devices: http://www.macworld.com/article/2046147/five-icloud-email-tricks-you-probably-missed.html One thing I now notice that Dan did not mention was what kind of email server he’s dealing with: POP or IMAP? I think Mail does things differently between those two. I’ve NEVER used POP mail for more than a few months. Just too many devices I need to get my email on... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Apple Mail questions
Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Overall Mail's performance is improved, as long as I stay away from big mailboxes. Those still take 30s to a minute to view. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. How do I create a rule to move attachments to an alternate folder? I've no problem creating rules that move messages to specific mailboxes. But on some, I'd like to also move the attachments to a different folder, away from the default (which has become cluttered fast!). Thanks, - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. Spotlight was vastly improved over the years. I have users with tens of thousands of emails in their mailboxes and normal performance. Spotlight actually works now :-) It's quite useful, and I haven't seen a machine bog down with indexing in a dogs age. Apple's made a lot of improvements over the years. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. No really, because Mail is calling the system Webkit libs; again 'getting a newer version of the OS' and, hence, moving to an Intel system is a surefire way to improve performance. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pojrv6fatugfvu/mail%20attachments%20menu.png?dl=0 IIRC there were attachments buttons in the tool bars that did the same thing. Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. You could try to relink the binary from the command line with install_name_tool. On my 10.4.11 system, it is linked to /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit You could change this to point to another WebKit library with something like install_name_tool -change /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit /Foo/Bar/Bletch/NewWebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail However, I would back up your Mail.app first! No promises that this would work, YMMV, batteries not included, please see your physician for execution time lasting longer than four hours. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- :wq! --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Apple Mail questions
What everyone is telling you is true . I keep the same computer you have - Offline to Handle my Finances. That way there’s no danger of anyone hacking into my accounts or password lists … or stealing date. Though I’m using a mid 2012 APPLE Pro Tower with Yosemite OS 10.10.1 … I can only recommend getting a unit that will at least run the Maverick OS. IN FACT, I suggest you just stay with Maverick, the Calendar is simpler to make alerts and considering other features dropped in Yosemite. PLUS, Yosemite is BUTT UGLY. The Safari Icon is moronically, dimwitted, as is the contacts icon. BUT, I love Apple Mail. On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 1, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Dan C dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Sooo... I switched from Eudora to Apple Mail and am having a few growing pains. (QuickSilver 2002, Leopard) I used EudoraMailboxCleaner, rebuilt the resulting mailboxes in Apple Mail, and got most of my filters er a rules working. My first impression of Apple Mail was that it's a POS because it was abysmally slow. Turns out that to rebuild a mailbox, Mail opens each and every message for *writing*, not just reading - so when they're closed, fseventer throws them at ClamXav and Splotchlight for that unnecessary 2nd and 3rd rescan. Splotchlight, of course, goes into convulsions from being given so much work to do, mangles its indexing, and throws thousands and thousands of errors at the console, which then requires several cpu hours of the logger process futzing around. sigh. So I beat it all with a stick, disabled Clam and Splotch, let the rebuilds finish (21 years worth of mail!) then let Splotchlight spend the night reindexing from scratch. Well, to be honest, moving to a modern version of the OS will help a great deal...the computer is 12 years old, the os is what, 7? With Snow Leopard (iirc) Apple moved from monolithic .mbox mail files to .eml files in directories, which speeds up message management by a gazillion times. Spotlight was vastly improved over the years. I have users with tens of thousands of emails in their mailboxes and normal performance. Spotlight actually works now :-) It's quite useful, and I haven't seen a machine bog down with indexing in a dogs age. Apple's made a lot of improvements over the years. Ok - the questions: Other than installing a newer WebKit system-wide (which has stability issues), is there an easy way to point Mail to using a newer build? The newer builds are much faster at displaying image heavy messages. No really, because Mail is calling the system Webkit libs; again 'getting a newer version of the OS' and, hence, moving to an Intel system is a surefire way to improve performance. How do I tell Apple Mail to throw a message to my default browser? Now and then, friends (peecee users) send me poorly formatted html messages that get mangled by WebKit. I know by previous experience that if I throw them at a non-webkit browser (eg: TenFourFox), they display just fine. In Eudora, I did this by selecting the message then hitting an open in browser button. What is the equivalent for Apple Mail? There really isn't one; because Mail is using (theoretically) the same engine as the default web browser. Of course, since your system Webkit version is ancient, you'll run into issues. How do I quickly grab in-line photos? Some people send me messages that contain dozens of photos. They're in-line - dragged into the message body, not regular attachments. In Eudora, they appeared as files in Eudora's Parts folder - easy to grab from Finder. Where does Apple Mail stash them? I know that in current versions of mail there's a kind of pop-up menu that will let me select any or all attachments to save. https://www.dropbox.com/s/4pojrv6fatugfvu/mail%20attachments%20menu.png?dl=0 IIRC there were attachments buttons in the tool bars that did the same thing. Explore the toolbar customization menu, there's a bunch of useful tools that aren't in the standard set. How do I create a rule to move sent messages to their appropriate mailbox? I'm accumulating mailing list replies and such in the Sent mailbox. I'd like them to automagically move to the right mailbox, to keep the threads intact. I'm pretty sure if you add a rule to the Sent mailbox you should be able to do what you want. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received
Image Attachments in Mac Mail
Why does Mail sometimes change my attachments to embedded images? I'm trying to send some JPEGs of about 3.5 MBs each, but I have received a complaint that each one has been converted to a 640 x 293 pixel thumbnail inserted as pictures. How do I ensure my recipient receives the full-size images? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Greed never sleeps. Ignorance never wakes up. On Nov 30, 2013, at 4:46 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics G5 DUAL 1.8 STARTUP [2 Updates] G5 DUAL 1.8 STARTUP JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net Nov 29 04:21PM -0500 This machine has been off for over a year. It is mated to the ?cinema display that pulls all power through the umbilical. Is there anything to worry about vefore trying to fire it up? JV Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com Nov 29 02:46PM -0800 This machine has been off for over a year. It is mated to the ? cinema display that pulls all power through the umbilical. Is there anything to worry about vefore trying to fire it up? I assume you mean one of the ADC displays that get power from the video card. Nothing special -- if the power supply was marginal enough for an ADC display to push it over the edge, there's nothing you could realistically have done to avoid its failure. However, ADC doesn't draw a great deal, which is why Apple ended up abandoning it. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Coffee. Delight. Border. May I see your passport please? -- Firesign Theater -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Image Attachments in Mac Mail
On 30 Nov 2013, at 08:07:38 AM PST, Michael McMurtrey wrote: Why does Mail sometimes change my attachments to embedded images? I'm trying to send some JPEGs of about 3.5 MBs each, but I have received a complaint that each one has been converted to a 640 x 293 pixel thumbnail inserted as pictures. How do I ensure my recipient receives the full-size images? - Don't know which version of Mail you are using, but check under the Edit Menu for Attachments. Which option is checked? Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Image Attachments in Mac Mail
On Nov 30, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 30 Nov 2013, at 08:07:38 AM PST, Michael McMurtrey wrote: Why does Mail sometimes change my attachments to embedded images? I'm trying to send some JPEGs of about 3.5 MBs each, but I have received a complaint that each one has been converted to a 640 x 293 pixel thumbnail inserted as pictures. How do I ensure my recipient receives the full-size images? - Don't know which version of Mail you are using, but check under the Edit Menu for Attachments. Which option is checked? Ken Yes, which version of mail? I am using 2.1.3 under 10.4 and there is an option for image size in the bottom right corner of the compose window once you add a picture. Make sure that is set to actual size. I took a quick look and I did not see where to set the default image size in Mail's preferences. The 640 x 293 is pretty close to the medium. so it may be sizing things down to that. Len -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Image Attachments in Mac Mail
Il giorno 30/11/13 17.07, Michael McMurtrey ha scritto: Why does Mail sometimes change my attachments to embedded images? Besides what has already been suggested, it might be Mail considers those images too big. You could try compressing them (one by one, or in a single folder/file), and attach them as ZIP files. Mail shouldn't mess with ZIP attachments. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Image Attachments in Mac Mail
On Nov 30, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 30/11/13 17.07, Michael McMurtrey ha scritto: Why does Mail sometimes change my attachments to embedded images? Besides what has already been suggested, it might be Mail considers those images too big. You could try compressing them (one by one, or in a single folder/file), and attach them as ZIP files. Mail shouldn't mess with ZIP attachments. Every version of Mail I've used has had some means of setting the size of an attachment. I believe Mail tries to be 'smart' and limit sizes to a 'manageable range' by default IIRC, since 10.4-ish, there's been a small dropdown menu at the top of the body when an attached image is present, allowing you to choose small, medium, large and 'original size'. This applies to all attachments. That said there has been seven versions of Mail to date, always specify the version and/or OS X version when you post a question, because the actual answer may vary depending on the version. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mail corruption issue Cause:Corrupted Envelope Index
Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I ruled out real ram problems since it was only mail that crashed, and when I re-initialized it everything was fine. It appears that the problem was a corrupted Envelope Index file. I copied my old ~users/me/library/mail folder back, and returned the old mail.plist. Deleted the Envelope Index file. It rebuilt the file on relaunch and it appears that everything is back and working fine. Thanks again for the help, and this trick goes into my pile of early step, non destructive, repairs. Len -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mail corruption issue
Greetings, If you haven't tried this yet it might just work. When I've had mail problems it has worked for me. In your home folder go to Library/Mail and you will find a file called Envelope Index. With the Mail Application closed change the name of this file to bak.Envelope Index (which will save the file incase it is needed later) Now open the Mail Application, when it is opened it will give you a message that this is the first time that you have open the Mail Application. Accunolage and continue, now the Mail Application will look for all of your emails and rebuild the data base index If you have a lot of eMail's it may take a long time. If the Envelope Index is corrupt, when done you will have all of your eMail just like the last time that they were before corruption. Cheers. Harry San Jose, Ca. Now using Mt. Lion. On Monday, August 19, 2013 6:42:02 AM UTC-7, Len Gerstel wrote: I am using Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11 installed on a G5. Something became corrupted and Mail would crash moments after opening. I could not even try and run Rebuild Mailboxes. I tried everything I could think of. Ran disk utility, ran everything in OnyX, booted in Safe Mode, removed Plist. Heck, I got so desperate I even repaired permissions. Nothing helped. Having to get Mail up and running, I copied my existing mail folder from Users/me/Library/mail to another disk and started Mail fresh. I tried importing the mail from the previous folder and it would crash upon opening after import. The main error message I see in crash log is: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x8a7ad83d Which googling implies bad ram. No new ram installed in months, no other apps crashing. What I am looking to do is get my old mail back and into Mail. I have tried dragging individual messages ( 1070409.emlx ) onto Mail, but that doesn't work. I can double lick an .emlx and it opens in mail, but I can't search them and I have thousands of messages I am trying to recover, so opening each, then forwarding it to me is not a real option. Thanks for any help, Len Gerstel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mail corruption issue
I am using Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11 installed on a G5. Something became corrupted and Mail would crash moments after opening. I could not even try and run Rebuild Mailboxes. I tried everything I could think of. Ran disk utility, ran everything in OnyX, booted in Safe Mode, removed Plist. Heck, I got so desperate I even repaired permissions. Nothing helped. Having to get Mail up and running, I copied my existing mail folder from Users/me/Library/mail to another disk and started Mail fresh. I tried importing the mail from the previous folder and it would crash upon opening after import. The main error message I see in crash log is: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x8a7ad83d Which googling implies bad ram. No new ram installed in months, no other apps crashing. What I am looking to do is get my old mail back and into Mail. I have tried dragging individual messages ( 1070409.emlx ) onto Mail, but that doesn't work. I can double lick an .emlx and it opens in mail, but I can't search them and I have thousands of messages I am trying to recover, so opening each, then forwarding it to me is not a real option. Thanks for any help, Len Gerstel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mail corruption issue
Having to get Mail up and running, I copied my existing mail folder from Users/me/Library/mail to another disk and started Mail fresh. I tried importing the mail from the previous folder and it would crash upon opening after import. The main error message I see in crash log is: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x8a7ad83d Which googling implies bad ram. No new ram installed in months, no other apps crashing. Bad RAM could cause this, but given your other problems, I suspect it's a simpler cause: your mailbox somehow got corrupt and it's causing Mail.app to freak out on the unexpected data. Unfortunately, unless someone else knows a shortcut for this , until the offending portion of the mailbox is deleted (hopefully a message and not some essential metadata) you probably have no choice but to manually go through each and every one of them. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- MOVIE IDEA: Blazing E-mail Signatures -- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mail corruption issue:? Testing Ram
It's been so many years since I've had a bad RAM chip … had to dig back in my memory. On my Quicksilvers, I found that sometimes a chip would not be fully seated in its slot. Check that they are correct and try it. If that doesn't do it, Pull one of you Ram chips and restart. If still no working, replace that chip and pull the next one. By the process of elimination you should be able to determine if, 'in fact', one of them is defective. If none of them are defective, one of the smarter folk will have to help you. I've never had this 1.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon open in the 14 months I've had it. No need to. RHB On Aug 19, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: I am using Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11 installed on a G5. Something became corrupted and Mail would crash moments after opening. I could not even try and run Rebuild Mailboxes. I tried everything I could think of. Ran disk utility, ran everything in OnyX, booted in Safe Mode, removed Plist. Heck, I got so desperate I even repaired permissions. Nothing helped. Having to get Mail up and running, I copied my existing mail folder from Users/me/Library/mail to another disk and started Mail fresh. I tried importing the mail from the previous folder and it would crash upon opening after import. The main error message I see in crash log is: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x8a7ad83d Which googling implies bad ram. No new ram installed in months, no other apps crashing. What I am looking to do is get my old mail back and into Mail. I have tried dragging individual messages ( 1070409.emlx ) onto Mail, but that doesn't work. I can double lick an .emlx and it opens in mail, but I can't search them and I have thousands of messages I am trying to recover, so opening each, then forwarding it to me is not a real option. Thanks for any help, Len Gerstel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list ---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
ATTENTION LISTERS: 1. DO NOT move to the YAHOO NEW MAIL it is a mess, buggy, slow, all in all a first year programmers D- grade project. 2. IF YOU DID make the mistake of going to NEW MAIL, under the GEAR you can select the BASIC version, this too is grade D- but is better than the FANCY mail that is a mess, it does not have next message, so you have to constantly go back to INBOX to select the next message. 3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work. 4. I have sent 3 hard copy letters to YAHOO CEO but got nowhere. 5. I have posted DANGERS on Yahoo QUESTIONS and now THEY CLAIM I have to change my password ON EACH OF 7 ACCOUNTS what a cheap shot. 6. Apple mail is poor and hard to use also. 7. Does anyone have a simple mail to use? 8. I even offered to PAY YAHOO to return me to CLASSIC, but they refused. 9. We have been using Yahoo Mail as the best start up and put about 10 new accounts on per month, now NONE AT ALL. JML. I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway === --- On Wed, 7/3/13, Don Wakefield dtp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Don Wakefield dtp...@yahoo.com Subject: Yahoo mail troubles To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 4:53 PM Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. Don Wakefield DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!) Ballwin, Missouri, USA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Fw: Re: Yahoo mail troubles
ATTENTION LISTERS: 1. DO NOT move to the YAHOO NEW MAIL it is a mess, buggy, slow, all in all a first year programmers D- grade project. 2. IF YOU DID make the mistake of going to NEW MAIL, under the GEAR you can select the BASIC version, this too is grade D- but is better than the FANCY mail that is a mess, it does not have next message, so you have to constantly go back to INBOX to select the next message. 3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work. 4. I have sent 3 hard copy letters to YAHOO CEO but got nowhere. 5. I have posted DANGERS on Yahoo QUESTIONS and now THEY CLAIM I have to change my password ON EACH OF 7 ACCOUNTS what a cheap shot. 6. Apple mail is poor and hard to use also. 7. Does anyone have a simple mail to use? 8. I even offered to PAY YAHOO to return me to CLASSIC, but they refused. 9. We have been using Yahoo Mail as the best start up and put about 10 new accounts on per month, now NONE AT ALL. JML. I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Re: Yahoo mail troubles
Once again - use the mobile version. It works fine on a desktop. The url is: http://us.m.yahoo.com/p/mail Cut and paste that into your browser. You don't have to give up your yahoo email address. From: Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Yahoo mail troubles ATTENTION LISTERS: 1. DO NOT move to the YAHOO NEW MAIL it is a mess, buggy, slow, all in all a first year programmers D- grade project. 2. IF YOU DID make the mistake of going to NEW MAIL, under the GEAR you can select the BASIC version, this too is grade D- but is better than the FANCY mail that is a mess, it does not have next message, so you have to constantly go back to INBOX to select the next message. 3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work. 4. I have sent 3 hard copy letters to YAHOO CEO but got nowhere. 5. I have posted DANGERS on Yahoo QUESTIONS and now THEY CLAIM I have to change my password ON EACH OF 7 ACCOUNTS what a cheap shot. 6. Apple mail is poor and hard to use also. 7. Does anyone have a simple mail to use? 8. I even offered to PAY YAHOO to return me to CLASSIC, but they refused. 9. We have been using Yahoo Mail as the best start up and put about 10 new accounts on per month, now NONE AT ALL. JML. I'm a designated FREE SPIRIT HITCHHIKING on the Information Super Highway -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: 3. GMAIL is far too hard to use, is not popular, but does work. Say what now? -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
or at least a workaround ... I've been using Yahoo Mail as an IMAP server for Mac Mail - works very well. hth -- Take care . . . Brian -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
At 4:53 PM -0700 07/03/2013, Don Wakefield wrote: Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. What browser (and vers) are you using? I was just puttering around in Yahoo's webmail this morning (my 'throwaway' email address), and had no big problems. Safari 5.0.6 w/ Leopard-WebKit. Overall it was crapyahootastic slow and typically cumbersome, but then their webmail interface has never been very good. The select all function is there. At the top/above of the select checkboxes, there's an unlabeled checkbox with a wee triangle next to it. Click that box to select everything. Use the drop-down menu from the triangle to do other things. The real alternate solution -- get off Yahoo Mail. Switch to Gmail. It's completely free, has a better web interface, and supports both POP3 and IMAP. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Brian Harding b.hard...@qmul.ac.uk wrote: or at least a workaround ... I've been using Yahoo Mail as an IMAP server for Mac Mail - works very well. Pretty sure that requires the Yahoo Pro mail (the paid version) although it's been years since I tried... -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Yahoo mail troubles
Up until Yahoo forced the change to the New Mail, I was happily using the Classic version. Now that they have forced the change, I can't be the only one left behind. (Select all buttons are missing, Next buttons send you back to the list view every time you delete a correspondence, and untold numbers of other irritations.) What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. Don Wakefield DTPetc! (DeskTop Productions et cetera!) Ballwin, Missouri, USA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
On 3 Jul 2013, at 16:53:57 PDT, Don Wakefield wrote: What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. GMail. Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yahoo mail troubles
You can use the mobile version. http://us.m.yahoo.com/p/mail From: Ken Daggett kadagg...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Yahoo mail troubles On 3 Jul 2013, at 16:53:57 PDT, Don Wakefield wrote: What suggestions do any of you more savvy techs have as an alternate solution or at least a workaround to the offerings we Leopard users are left with. GMail. Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mac Mail Signatures not saved
All of a sudden, my email signatures are not being saved in my POP account. They're saved under All Signatures, and I can move them into my POP Account, but every time I shut down Mail and re-open it, they're gone from the POP account. What gives? OS X 10.5.8 Mail 3.6 Dual 1.25 GHz G4 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mac Mail won't save signatures
All of a sudden, my email signatures are not being saved in my POP account. They're saved under All Signatures, and I can move them into my POP Account, but every time I shut down Mail and re-open it, they're gone from the POP account. What gives? OS X 10.5.8 Mail 3.6 Dual 1.25 GHz G4 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Strange Mail behavior
My Mail application has started doing something strange: When I copy a JPEG to paste it into an outgoing email, Mail is converting it to a TIFF. How do I make it stop? I've checked the Preferences, but there's nothing there that seems to apply. Mail 3.6 OS X 10.5.8 Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 (MDD) Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic. On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:46 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics They're Following Me... [5 Updates] They're Following Me... JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net Mar 07 03:11PM -0500 Ok, I've always known about the cookies thing and erasing (or not accepting ) them, but things have moved on. How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else? I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen. Any thoughts? John V Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Mar 07 01:36PM -0700 How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else? I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen. Any thoughts? They're probably using your IP address for geolocation, which is why most of the ad-supported websites I hit seem to have ads for Tucson Mother makes money fast! and the like. My suggestion is ignore the ads. If you really want ot browse in private, use Incognito windows in Chrome, or Priavte Browsing in Safari, etc. Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on them, so if there's something egregiously offensive tell the webmaster of the site in question. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Mar 07 02:43PM -0600 On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:11 PM, JohnV wrote: I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen. They track your IP address also, so you'll need to use something like Tor to remain more anonymous. Even Tor can be tracked with some effort. I have cable which is supposed to be dynamic IP, but AFAIK they rarely if ever change my IP. If I started hosting they'd probably pop my IP just to make it more difficult for me, after all, they're not a bi-directional information super highway, they're one-way intravenous ads for fun profit. As in all things, there is a cost to be paid to remain anonymous, in this case Tor results in a noticeable increase in latency before webpages load, the cost of slicing dicing all those packets across all those anonymous Tor nodes. Tor on a PPC Mac may be difficult to setup now. AFAIK you use Vidalia for PPC, but finding a browser may be harder, I suspect you'll need TenFourFox or something with plugins enabled and a Tor plugin? The current Tor Browser Bundle required OS X 10.6+ and Intel, so getting Tor working on PPC may be a bit of a challenge now, but I'm sure it can be done. Just search Tor PPC or Vidalia PPC. Here are current PPC versions of Vidalia to get you started: https://www.torproject.org/dist/vidalia-bundles/ Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Mar 07 01:46PM -0700 Tor on a PPC Mac may be difficult to setup now. AFAIK you use Vidalia for PPC, but finding a browser may be harder, I suspect you'll need TenFourFox or something with plugins enabled and a Tor plugin? The current Tor Browser Bundle required OS X 10.6+ and Intel, so getting Tor working on PPC may be a bit of a challenge now, but I'm sure it can be done. Just search Tor PPC or Vidalia PPC. Here are current PPC versions of Vidalia to get you started: https://www.torproject.org/dist/vidalia-bundles/ Much simpler to find someone else's wifi to get on the internet :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Judith Berkowitz sfjb...@mac.com Mar 07 03:05PM -0800 On Mar 7, 12:11 pm, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote: ... How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else? ... Any thoughts? John V - Adblock Plus adblockplus.org/ and - Click to Flash clicktoflash.com/ get rid of the symptoms of the problem. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group g3-5-list. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those
Re: Strange Mail behavior
On Mar 9, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Michael McMurtrey wrote: When I copy a JPEG to paste it into an outgoing email, Mail is converting it to a TIFF. Rather than using copy/paste operation you should drag drop to JPEG file into the email; or use the attachment button to select the JPEG file as an attachment to the email. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: your mail
Hello. I have set up FTP server on my G4, but it shows the root of my boot drive an not the raid array that is what I set up as a shared folder. How can I get it to show my shared folder and not my boot drive? Thanks in advanced. FTP is not file sharing. When you log into an FTP server, you are placed at the root of whatever the server thinks the filesystem is, and for OS X that's /. If you don't mind just cd'ing to your array from there, then just do that. If you want to make FTP see only a part of the filesystem, you need to change what it thinks / is. The simplest and most secure way is to chroot() it. That is a Unix question, not specifically a Mac question, but something like http://www.itworld.com/nlsunix071108 should get you started. If this is too much work, just use regular AppleTalk file sharing rather than FTP. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- If I wanted your opinion, I'd have beaten it out of you. --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Failure to Import Mail
At 7:53 AM -0700 8/16/2012, Al Poulin wrote: Using POP mail works well for the way my wife and I share an e-mail account on separate Macs at home. I am using Apple Mail in OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. In preparing for a vacation trip, I attempted to move my e-mail holdings from the iMac to an iBook G4 1.33 GHz (2005) running the latest version of OS X 10.5 Leopard. With an Ethernet connection, the methods that I attempted failed, including Import at the iBook from Apple Mail, Import at the iBook from Files in mbox format, and simply copying the Mail folder from the iMac's user Library. Is there a way to do this? Something like ChronoSync perhaps? Thanks, In each release, Apple has made changes in the way their Mail app stores data. So I would not expect the older Mail app to be able to talk to the data from the newer Mail app. Not sure if manually changing the folder structure would be enough. I'm thinking Mail probably made changes to the individual file contents too. If you changed both to use IMAP, perhaps that would let you keep things in sync - at least for newer messages. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Failure to Import Mail
On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Dan wrote: At 7:53 AM -0700 8/16/2012, Al Poulin wrote: Using POP mail works well for the way my wife and I share an e-mail account on separate Macs at home. I am using Apple Mail in OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. In preparing for a vacation trip, I attempted to move my e-mail holdings from the iMac to an iBook G4 1.33 GHz (2005) running the latest version of OS X 10.5 Leopard. With an Ethernet connection, the methods that I attempted failed, including Import at the iBook from Apple Mail, Import at the iBook from Files in mbox format, and simply copying the Mail folder from the iMac's user Library. Is there a way to do this? Something like ChronoSync perhaps? Thanks, In each release, Apple has made changes in the way their Mail app stores data. So I would not expect the older Mail app to be able to talk to the data from the newer Mail app. Not sure if manually changing the folder structure would be enough. I'm thinking Mail probably made changes to the individual file contents too. If you changed both to use IMAP, perhaps that would let you keep things in sync - at least for newer messages. What Dan says: you can import mail going forwards, but not backwards...fundamentally you're trying to make POP do the job that IMAP was invented for. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Failure to Import Mail
On Aug 17, 1:12 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: What Dan says: you can import mail going forwards, but not backwards...fundamentally you're trying to make POP do the job that IMAP was invented for. Thanks Bruce and Dan for the insight into what Apple did to Mail, essentially making it impossible to import from newer to older versions of its own software, but ironically taking care of switchers, eh? Anyway, my wife and I will stick with POP. In our joint account, I don't want her erasing what I want to archive, nor to I want to erase hers. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Failure to Import Mail
Using POP mail works well for the way my wife and I share an e-mail account on separate Macs at home. I am using Apple Mail in OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. In preparing for a vacation trip, I attempted to move my e-mail holdings from the iMac to an iBook G4 1.33 GHz (2005) running the latest version of OS X 10.5 Leopard. With an Ethernet connection, the methods that I attempted failed, including Import at the iBook from Apple Mail, Import at the iBook from Files in mbox format, and simply copying the Mail folder from the iMac's user Library. Is there a way to do this? Something like ChronoSync perhaps? Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 17, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Just ran the cache clearing from OnyX with no change. This is from one that does not forward: --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=IMG_8419.jpg Content-ID: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=IMG_8419.jpg Content-Location: IMG_8419.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is from one that does. --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=110923c.jpg Content-ID: 110923c.jpg Content-Location: 110923c.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Well, I see the line that might make a difference: x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Goggling that comes up with only 6 hits, and none make much sense to me. Now, is that from the iPhone, a coincidental Verizon change or what, that is the question. And, is it the cause and can it be changed? Any x- mail header is a custom one, and any application that does not generate it, or know what to do with it explicitly, is supposed to ignore it; this is something Verizon added, I'll wager. Betcha some are coming from him connected to a wifi network and some are coming from Verizona network; the iPhone will glom onto any available wifi to do any data related stuff if it can. Bruce, I will take you up on a couple of iPad photos to my gmail address, let me know if you need it. On their way! Hope it works, my iPad is a Wifi only model. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 17, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Just ran the cache clearing from OnyX with no change. This is from one that does not forward: --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=IMG_8419.jpg Content-ID: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=IMG_8419.jpg Content-Location: IMG_8419.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is from one that does. --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=110923c.jpg Content-ID: 110923c.jpg Content-Location: 110923c.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Well, I see the line that might make a difference: x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Goggling that comes up with only 6 hits, and none make much sense to me. Now, is that from the iPhone, a coincidental Verizon change or what, that is the question. And, is it the cause and can it be changed? Any x- mail header is a custom one, and any application that does not generate it, or know what to do with it explicitly, is supposed to ignore it; this is something Verizon added, I'll wager. Betcha some are coming from him connected to a wifi network and some are coming from Verizona network; the iPhone will glom onto any available wifi to do any data related stuff if it can. Bruce, I will take you up on a couple of iPad photos to my gmail address, let me know if you need it. On their way! Hope it works, my iPad is a Wifi only model. -- Gorgeous photos, thanks. Makes me want to get back out to the desert for a another trip. They forwarded with no problems at all. I think I might have figured out the cause, but the solution without buying an app to batch photos may be beyond my abilities, unless I can jailbreak his phone and do low level programming. Looking at the raw source on all the photos that forward properly, the information in the Content-ID between the and is the same as the name and content location. All the photos from the iPhone ones that do not forward correctly have the same Content-ID 1. That is probably borking Mail somehow. Thanks again for the photos. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: They forwarded with no problems at all. I think I might have figured out the cause, but the solution without buying an app to batch photos may be beyond my abilities, unless I can jailbreak his phone and do low level programming. Looking at the raw source on all the photos that forward properly, the information in the Content-ID between the and is the same as the name and content location. All the photos from the iPhone ones that do not forward correctly have the same Content-ID 1. That is probably borking Mail somehow. If that's what is going on it's a bug in IOS, or something odd that Verizon is doing. My iPad is running the same version of IOS as he is, and this is being set by the email libs in IOS, so if it was something with the app, it should have happened to mine as well. Best to teach him how to send more than one photo at a time: Go to the Photos app, select either an album, your photo stream or the camera roll, and WITHOUT selecting a picture, click the 'out of box arrow' (damned if I know what the official name for it is...) tap on the photos you want to send, then tap share. Much easier than sending multiple emails! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 18, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: They forwarded with no problems at all. I think I might have figured out the cause, but the solution without buying an app to batch photos may be beyond my abilities, unless I can jailbreak his phone and do low level programming. Looking at the raw source on all the photos that forward properly, the information in the Content-ID between the and is the same as the name and content location. All the photos from the iPhone ones that do not forward correctly have the same Content-ID 1. That is probably borking Mail somehow. If that's what is going on it's a bug in IOS, or something odd that Verizon is doing. My iPad is running the same version of IOS as he is, and this is being set by the email libs in IOS, so if it was something with the app, it should have happened to mine as well. Best to teach him how to send more than one photo at a time: Go to the Photos app, select either an album, your photo stream or the camera roll, and WITHOUT selecting a picture, click the 'out of box arrow' (damned if I know what the official name for it is...) tap on the photos you want to send, then tap share. Much easier than sending multiple emails! Thanks for the iphone tip, I'll try it tonight. You know how it is, the big cheese gets all the cool toys, and those of us down in the trenches have to support them without the budget to have one to know how they work. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 18, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: Go to the Photos app, select either an album, your photo stream or the camera roll, and WITHOUT selecting a picture, click the 'out of box arrow' (damned if I know what the official name for it is...) tap on the photos you want to send, then tap share. Much easier than sending multiple emails! Thanks for the iphone tip, I'll try it tonight. You know how it is, the big cheese gets all the cool toys, and those of us down in the trenches have to support them without the budget to have one to know how they work. That, in fact, is how we all got iPads here...there was talk about the students all getting them and such and we put our feet down and said We can not support these unless we get some! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 16, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Relevant Hardware/software: PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11 with Mail 2.1.3 iPhone 4s with latest updates. My brother got an iPhone 4s for business. Most of the reason he went with it is the camera. I am working on getting him to be able to batch send the pics, but for now he sends them as individual picture messages to my email. I then select all the emails, click forward to make them one email with 10 photos and forward that to the appropriate people. With his old, semi dumb phone, everything worked fine. Each photo was in the forwarded email at the proper size. With the iPhone, the first picture of the group that I select to forward is fine. The rest of the pictures are not in the email. Instead there is the proper size one of the first picture, then there are small thumbnails of the first picture equal in number to the number of pictures that were supposed to be forwarded. I have checked and all the photos coming from the iPhone do have separate names. But in the forwarded email it shows one large of the first photo, then the thumbnails of the same photo and they all have the same the same (ie: a large picture of img_2496 then 9 thumbnail size pics of the same image, all also names img_2496) Anyone seen this before or have any thoughts? Just tested this with my iMac (10.6) and iPad, Mail 4.5 does this as expected. deleted Bruce's raw view info You might want to look at the 'raw' view of one that works and one that doesn't. This persists through starting and stopping mail? Rebooting the Mac in safe mode to clear caches, or running Applejack? I can send you some pics from my iPad if you want, test whether it's something weird with his phone? Just ran the cache clearing from OnyX with no change. This is from one that does not forward: --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=IMG_8419.jpg Content-ID: 1 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=IMG_8419.jpg Content-Location: IMG_8419.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 This is from one that does. --__CONTENT_64564_PART_BOUNDARY__33243242__ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=110923c.jpg Content-ID: 110923c.jpg Content-Location: 110923c.jpg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Well, I see the line that might make a difference: x-opwv-mms-forwardable: yes Goggling that comes up with only 6 hits, and none make much sense to me. Now, is that from the iPhone, a coincidental Verizon change or what, that is the question. And, is it the cause and can it be changed? Bruce, I will take you up on a couple of iPad photos to my gmail address, let me know if you need it. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
Relevant Hardware/software: PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11 with Mail 2.1.3 iPhone 4s with latest updates. My brother got an iPhone 4s for business. Most of the reason he went with it is the camera. I am working on getting him to be able to batch send the pics, but for now he sends them as individual picture messages to my email. I then select all the emails, click forward to make them one email with 10 photos and forward that to the appropriate people. With his old, semi dumb phone, everything worked fine. Each photo was in the forwarded email at the proper size. With the iPhone, the first picture of the group that I select to forward is fine. The rest of the pictures are not in the email. Instead there is the proper size one of the first picture, then there are small thumbnails of the first picture equal in number to the number of pictures that were supposed to be forwarded. I have checked and all the photos coming from the iPhone do have separate names. But in the forwarded email it shows one large of the first photo, then the thumbnails of the same photo and they all have the same the same (ie: a large picture of img_2496 then 9 thumbnail size pics of the same image, all also names img_2496) Anyone seen this before or have any thoughts? Thanks, Len Gerstel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 vs iPhone 4s problem
On May 16, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Relevant Hardware/software: PowerMac G5 running 10.4.11 with Mail 2.1.3 iPhone 4s with latest updates. My brother got an iPhone 4s for business. Most of the reason he went with it is the camera. I am working on getting him to be able to batch send the pics, but for now he sends them as individual picture messages to my email. I then select all the emails, click forward to make them one email with 10 photos and forward that to the appropriate people. With his old, semi dumb phone, everything worked fine. Each photo was in the forwarded email at the proper size. With the iPhone, the first picture of the group that I select to forward is fine. The rest of the pictures are not in the email. Instead there is the proper size one of the first picture, then there are small thumbnails of the first picture equal in number to the number of pictures that were supposed to be forwarded. I have checked and all the photos coming from the iPhone do have separate names. But in the forwarded email it shows one large of the first photo, then the thumbnails of the same photo and they all have the same the same (ie: a large picture of img_2496 then 9 thumbnail size pics of the same image, all also names img_2496) Anyone seen this before or have any thoughts? Just tested this with my iMac (10.6) and iPad, Mail 4.5 does this as expected. The raw view of one of these picture emails is: --Apple-Mail-ED9D0DFE-B808-4870-A92C-A25F984D3B3F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --Apple-Mail-ED9D0DFE-B808-4870-A92C-A25F984D3B3F Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Photo 0 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name=Photo 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 /9j/4QKgRXhpZgAA... You might want to look at the 'raw' view of one that works and one that doesn't. This persists through starting and stopping mail? Rebooting the Mac in safe mode to clear caches, or running Applejack? I can send you some pics from my iPad if you want, test whether it's something weird with his phone? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
OK. I tried that. Yes, the next selected email doesn't open but it is selected. Is it really not open or we just cant see it open? This is a partial solution. Thank you. On May 10, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? The only way to stop Mail from selecting the next message and thus opening it is to double-click the horizontal divider bar between the list of e-mails pane and the pane for the currently selected e-mail below it. This action moves the divider bar to the bottom of the Mail box and thus allows you to delete any and/or all e-mails while avoiding opening any. It's a perfect way to delete spam messages without opening them or causing Mail to mark e-mails after the deleted messages as read. To restore the divider bar to its normal position, simply double-click on it after you've deleted messages. This is a neat way to avoid inadvertently letting a spammer know their message has been sent to a live e-mail address since most spam reports back to the sender as soon as an e-mail is opened. I use it all the time to delete suspected spam as well as e-mails Mail marks as Junk. -- Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
I will look at Eudora. I had it on my Mac's for years way back but stopped using it for some reason. Think is was version 5. Thanks. On May 10, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: At 4:51 PM -0700 5/10/12, Bruce Johnson wrote eloquently: On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? I don't think I've EVER seen a mail client that didn't do this...and no I don't think there's a way around it. I think Eudora was the only one which gave you a choice, Dan you use Eudora, have I got it right? Paul -- I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians. -- Charles De Gaulle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 11, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: OK. I tried that. Yes, the next selected email doesn't open but it is selected. Is it really not open or we just cant see it open? This is a partial solution. Thank you. Yeah because if you arrow down to the next message the marker for 'Unread' doesn't change. Didn't know that, although it's not surprising since I use my email client to, you know, READ my email, and so never have it set not to display the message pane. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 11, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: OK. I tried that. Yes, the next selected email doesn't open but it is selected. Is it really not open or we just cant see it open? This is a partial solution. Thank you. It's really not open, as Bruce has learned. Double-clicking on the Mail divider bar to expand the list of Inbox e-mails and prevent any from opening may be a partial solution for you, but it's all I need to delete posts either marked by Mail as Junk or that have all the earmarks of spam without opening them. Neat feature, and it is one of the many reasons I haven't been a Windows user for years. Thanks, Apple! Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 10, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: The idea that all mail should be IMAPped HTML and opened with all of the links automatically read is just silly. The advertisers and spammers are the only folks who gain anything from it. IMAP vs POP has nothing to do with the HTML stuff and spammers. Spam is easily contained...my junk mail folder (which I leave to fill until I empty it) currently contains 19 spams that escaped our spam filtering system on our mail server, going back to the middle of April. I've had maybe one or two a week that gets past both the server-side and client-side filtering. Last time I looked we were sending nearly 90% of all mail messages straight to the bitbucket, and this in an environment where emails mentioning online pharmacies and viagra could well be legitimate messages. Once this system was set up it was pretty much automated, (for anyone who wants to know, we're using using amavis in conjunction with clamav and spam assassin + RBL filters + some other stuff to do the trick, then passing the filtered mail from our SMTP servers to our IMAP mailstore running dovecot. I can provide exhaustive detail if anyone wants) Maybe once a month someone complains that they didn't receive something and we'll find it in rejected emails, and either whitelist that sender or adjust the rules to fix it. This is done for approximately a thousand users for about 0.1 FTE...ie: the person who runs our email system spends about 1/10th of his time doing that. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 11, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Jim Scott wrote: It's really not open, as Bruce has learned. Double-clicking on the Mail divider bar to expand the list of Inbox e-mails and prevent any from opening may be a partial solution for you, but it's all I need to delete posts either marked by Mail as Junk or that have all the earmarks of spam without opening them. Neat feature, and it is one of the many reasons I haven't been a Windows user for years. Thanks, Apple! Thunderbird, and Mozilla Navigator before that has also always done that, on Windows or Mac. I've never had the misfortune to have to use OutPuke, only pat user's hands sympathetically when it puked and lost all their email or mysteriously corrupted their profile database irretrievably. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
At 9:23 am -0400 5/11/12, Baldassare Guzzo wrote eloquently: I will look at Eudora. I had it on my Mac's for years way back but stopped using it for some reason. Think is was version 5. Thanks. Keep in mind that it won't work after Snow Leopard ;-( -- Trying to determine what is going on in the world by reading newspapers is like trying to tell the time by watching the second hand of a clock. -- -- Ben Hecht -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 10, 4:10 pm, Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Can I stop it from selecting the next message? We are all assuming that you are attempting to avoid opening spam, thereby sending the message that yours is a live email address. If this is the case, you can turn off the Mail option to automatically load email images. I've understood that it's that that triggers the response to the spammer. The option is in both the Mail client and the Webmail versions. Should you wish to see the images in a particular post, the option to Load Images is a button in each note's upper right corner. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? I don't think I've EVER seen a mail client that didn't do this...and no I don't think there's a way around it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? The only way to stop Mail from selecting the next message and thus opening it is to double-click the horizontal divider bar between the list of e-mails pane and the pane for the currently selected e-mail below it. This action moves the divider bar to the bottom of the Mail box and thus allows you to delete any and/or all e-mails while avoiding opening any. It's a perfect way to delete spam messages without opening them or causing Mail to mark e-mails after the deleted messages as read. To restore the divider bar to its normal position, simply double-click on it after you've deleted messages. This is a neat way to avoid inadvertently letting a spammer know their message has been sent to a live e-mail address since most spam reports back to the sender as soon as an e-mail is opened. I use it all the time to delete suspected spam as well as e-mails Mail marks as Junk. -- Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
At 16:51 -0700 5/10/12, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? I don't think I've EVER seen a mail client that didn't do this...and no I don't think there's a way around it. At 17:05 -0700 5/10/12, Jim Scott wrote: This is a neat way to avoid inadvertently letting a spammer know their message has been sent to a live e-mail address since most spam reports back to the sender as soon as an e-mail is opened. I use it all the time to delete suspected spam as well as e-mails Mail marks as Junk. Those are two good reasons for running Eudora even though it's not supported any more. The idea that all mail should be IMAPped HTML and opened with all of the links automatically read is just silly. The advertisers and spammers are the only folks who gain anything from it. -- -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that! -- source unknown -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: mail
At 4:51 PM -0700 5/10/12, Bruce Johnson wrote eloquently: On May 10, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 and Mail 3.6. Is there any way that Mail will not select the next message after deleting a message? In other words, if you open Mail then select a message and delete it, Mail automatically goes to the next message (and it is now read). Can I stop it from selecting the next message? I don't think I've EVER seen a mail client that didn't do this...and no I don't think there's a way around it. I think Eudora was the only one which gave you a choice, Dan you use Eudora, have I got it right? Paul -- I have come to the conclusion that politics are too serious a matter to be left to the politicians. -- Charles De Gaulle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail error log
Running Mail 2.1.3 on a G5 with 10.4.11. Connecting to a POP server I am having connection issues to my mail server, hosted by a small firm. I frequently get the connection issue (I am pretty sure that is it) icon when checking mail. The icon that is an exclamation point in a triangle inside a circle. It normally goes away the next time Mail autochecks for new mail, but right now it has been in this state for 45 minutes. I am looking for the error log that might give a hard reason for this (can't find server, too many connections-connection denied, whatever) to pass on to the hosting company, since I am probably the most tech literate customer. The only Mail logs I can find are in /var/log/mail.log (and mail.log. 0.gz through mail.log.4.gz). None of these have any entries for today, and the issue is going on right now. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail error log
On May 3, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: I am looking for the error log that might give a hard reason for this (can't find server, too many connections-connection denied, whatever) to pass on to the hosting company, since I am probably the most tech literate customer. The only Mail logs I can find are in /var/log/mail.log (and mail.log.0.gz through mail.log.4.gz). None of these have any entries for today, and the issue is going on right now. Caveat, I've never been saddled with a POP mail account, so I'm not sure Look in the system log, the /var/log/mail.log logfiles are for local SMTP use, ie: your machine acting as a mail server. All userspace apps, and most system programs and daemons log to the system log; the only things logging to any other log in the /var/log hierarchy are system-level programs that explicitly create their own logs, like apache and cups. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail error log
At 9:43 AM -0400 5/3/2012, Len Gerstel wrote: Running Mail 2.1.3 on a G5 with 10.4.11. Connecting to a POP server I am having connection issues to my mail server, hosted by a small firm. I frequently get the connection issue (I am pretty sure that is it) icon when checking mail. The icon that is an exclamation point in a triangle inside a circle. It normally goes away the next time Mail autochecks for new mail, but right now it has been in this state for 45 minutes. Open Mail's Activity View window then check mail. That should give you a better error message. Try also its Connection Doctor. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Returned mail: User unknown
The original message was received at 2012-03-21 15:30:01 -0400 from postoffice.nycap.rr.com [10.0.0.1] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - adopt...@nycap.rr.com -Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to postoffice.nycap.rr.com.: RCPT To:adopt...@nycap.rr.com 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: adopt...@nycap.rr.com 550 adopt...@nycap.rr.com... User unknown -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Reporting-MTA: dns; postoffice.nycap.rr.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; postoffice.nycap.rr.com Arrival-Date: 2012-03-21 15:30:01 -0400 Final-Recipient: RFC822; adoption@nycap.rr.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; postoffice.nycap.rr.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP;550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: adoption@nycap.rr.com Last-Attempt-Date: 2012-03-21 15:30:01 -0400 ---BeginMessage--- = Today's Topic Summary = Group: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics - g4 mdd getting louder? [5 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/207731567a71d960 - How to make external drive bootable [2 Updates] http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/c2202280e16b6035 = Topic: g4 mdd getting louder? Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/207731567a71d960 = -- 1 of 5 -- From: rumble rum...@metrocast.net Date: Mar 20 02:32PM -0700 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/d46417490a0e6961 it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? thanks -- 2 of 5 -- From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Date: Mar 20 02:52PM -0700 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/647ec28167a1b24d Sent from an iPhone, but is it mine? it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? Clean out the dust. -- 3 of 5 -- From: glen glenst...@yahoo.com Date: Mar 20 03:28PM -0700 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/7f96c6a8c02e5c36 it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? Clean out the dust. Absolutely, recently purchased a MDD and while unpacking it a dust bunny about the size of a mouse (the rodent) fell out. When I opened the MDD up the inside was really dusty. Before I attempted to start it up, I blew all the internals out with the shop's air compressor. Now it is nearly as quiet as a cat that only makes noises when it needs to; you get the idea. Look for a bunch of dust below the Garth Vader grill and also the dust in and around the power supply. And clean out all the dust you can find --glen -- 4 of 5 -- From: JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com Date: Mar 20 02:39PM -0700 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/822521b2162ef00f On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble wrote: it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder. is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again? thanks I have been able to peel back the sticker in the center of the hub very carefully and a little drop of olive oil will usually do it. Not all the fans have the sticker. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- 5 of 5 -- From: David W. Morris bbh...@gmail.com Date: Mar 20 03:58PM -0700 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/734e927a8f122420 My MDD was not quiet even after a good cleaning. In fact it was so noisy, it was uncomfortable to use it. I finally found a Silent fan to replace the main fan inside the dual 1.25GHz G4 MDD. It was only about 3/4 as many CFM's as the original fan, but made a huge difference in the sound level. I removed the PSU fans and ran them outside the computer, but found that they did not produce much noise, so I put them back into the PSU and left them in my MDD. I did not check to see how noisy the small case fan is, but now after replacing the big fan that blows through the G4 CPU modules heat sink, I am satisfied with the noise level and don't mind using my G4 MDD. My stock Apple Copper heat sink just arrived today, so that should help keep things cooler than the Aluminum
Re: Question about exporting email addresses from Apple Mail app
On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: My google fu is week here. Running Apple Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11, but have access to a 10.6 if that has a better answer. snip Short of importing the whole 14,000 into AddressBook, then exporting them from there, are there any options? I already converted the .emlx files to an mbox, but am not having luck exporting from there. geeky way to do it: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=731859 I R A Perl haxor, all nails must be hit with the perlhammer. It looks like the Email::Address CPAN module does what you want. To install the module do (In terminal) sudo cpan install Email::Address And accept all the defaults... Also the 'previous recipients' data might be exportable with some terminal hackery: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110516152604993 Thanks, and I bow to your HAXORness. I installed Perl and Email::Address as per the instructions, but my eyes glazed over pretty quickly. After some more googling I came across http://andreasamann.com/MacOSX/ Mail_Scripts which does it from address Book I figured I would give it a shot. Selected 14,547 messages in Mail and selected Add Sender to Address Book, then let my dual 2.0 G5 churn for a while. Address book deduped them, so left with 3,152 cards. Then ran Export Addresses (Address Book) from the site above's scripts and let that churn. Total time trying to find a one step solution from mail, both active, including searching, and computer churning was about 4.5-5 hours through all the variations I tried. Total time once I accepted a 2 step solution going through Address Book, about 40 min. 10 of that was active, the rest churn time. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about exporting email addresses from Apple Mail app
On Jan 16, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: My google fu is week here. Running Apple Mail 2.1.3 on 10.4.11, but have access to a 10.6 if that has a better answer. What I am trying to do is export the email addresses only from one account in one mailbox. ie: In my inbox I have my gmail, comcast and business accounts. I want to export only the email addresses in the inbox for my business account. Everything I am finding is talking about exporting from AddressBook, which I don't use except by accident. It only has about 75 contacts. I have 14,000 email messages in my business email in box, with probably 1500 unique addresses. I can dedupe the addresses, but I have to get them out first. Short of importing the whole 14,000 into AddressBook, then exporting them from there, are there any options? I already converted the .emlx files to an mbox, but am not having luck exporting from there. geeky way to do it: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=731859 I R A Perl haxor, all nails must be hit with the perlhammer. It looks like the Email::Address CPAN module does what you want. To install the module do (In terminal) sudo cpan install Email::Address And accept all the defaults... Also the 'previous recipients' data might be exportable with some terminal hackery: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20110516152604993 -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail problem
PM G4 933 OS 10.4.11. Mail 3.6. Something new and weird just started. When I open Mail, I now get two copies of all my Gmail mail. If I delete one, the other just disappears and sends me to the oldest mail in the list. So If I delete the mail to slowly, I end up deleting mail that I want to save because it bounces to the bottom of the Email list (which I have sorted by date). I hope I described this properly. Is it a problem with iCloud, Gmail (IMAP), or Mail? Any idea's? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail problem
On Jan 12, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 OS 10.4.11. Mail 3.6. Something new and weird just started. When I open Mail, I now get two copies of all my Gmail mail. If I delete one, the other just disappears and sends me to the oldest mail in the list. So If I delete the mail to slowly, I end up deleting mail that I want to save because it bounces to the bottom of the Email list (which I have sorted by date). I hope I described this properly. Is it a problem with iCloud, Gmail (IMAP), or Mail? Any idea's? Thanks in advance. Select Rebuild from the mailbox menu. Likely it's a munged local index file for that mail folder. This happens fairly regularly with the old style mail setup in 10.4 ...your mail 'folder' is one giant file of concatenated email messages. It's not iCloud, you can test if it's Gmail by logging into the gmail web client, and seeing if the mail duplication occurs there. But I'll lay great odds that rebuilding your inbox will fix it. This is a relatively common issue with IMAP accounts. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail problem
Thanks a million. I'll give it a try tonight. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 12, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: PM G4 933 OS 10.4.11. Mail 3.6. Something new and weird just started. When I open Mail, I now get two copies of all my Gmail mail. If I delete one, the other just disappears and sends me to the oldest mail in the list. So If I delete the mail to slowly, I end up deleting mail that I want to save because it bounces to the bottom of the Email list (which I have sorted by date). I hope I described this properly. Is it a problem with iCloud, Gmail (IMAP), or Mail? Any idea's? Thanks in advance. Select Rebuild from the mailbox menu. Likely it's a munged local index file for that mail folder. This happens fairly regularly with the old style mail setup in 10.4 ...your mail 'folder' is one giant file of concatenated email messages. It's not iCloud, you can test if it's Gmail by logging into the gmail web client, and seeing if the mail duplication occurs there. But I'll lay great odds that rebuilding your inbox will fix it. This is a relatively common issue with IMAP accounts. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail
http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/whyihatehtmlmailno3455.png This was an email I got. The yellow box appeared when I hovered over the link. No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. Bad phishers, bad! -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail
No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. I can confirm that as I used to be married to the Director of that specific area within Apple. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail
At 11:34 AM -0700 12/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. LOL The geniuses at Chase Bank have hired a company to handle their email, that has in turn hired an ex-spammer to do the actual SMTP work. So now all the phishes AND legit emails from Chase are being flagged by ClamXav! Over the past week, we've received phishies for Chase that look, from the headers, legit, as they came out of the same SMTP servers! The HTML is near perfect. The only way you can tell they're phishies is that the urls are dotted ips instead of chase.com. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why I hate html mail reason #3455, and like Mail
On Dec 23, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Dan wrote: At 11:34 AM -0700 12/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: No Apple hasn't outsourced their customer support to some unknown domain. LOL The geniuses at Chase Bank have hired a company to handle their email, that has in turn hired an ex-spammer to do the actual SMTP work. So now all the phishes AND legit emails from Chase are being flagged by ClamXav! Over the past week, we've received phishies for Chase that look, from the headers, legit, as they came out of the same SMTP servers! The HTML is near perfect. The only way you can tell they're phishies is that the urls are dotted ips instead of chase.com. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. They are not the only bank that does that kind of stuff. I received a legitimate email from my bank (MT) that, doing the hover, showed that the link in it went to some third party tracking kind of site, but the shown address was MTB.com. I called to confirm that it was real. Then gave them Holy H*ll about the idiocy of preaching about online security and phishing education, then doing something like that. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Insane Apple mail problem
OK, had a system crash, archived and installed back to Sys 10.5.8 with Apple mail 3.6 and now cannot communicate with my to year old server mail system. Have called the provider with 2 different answers. I understand (I hope) that each change in the server list requires a restart, but cannot get through. I can log onto web email for the account. My question: do I need to delete preferences for a clean start? will it help? Secondly, is there a way to get my mail from the old System folder? OS 10.5.8, dual 1.8 g5, 4 gigs ram, lots of hard drive -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Insane Apple mail problem
On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:47 AM, jbeque...@tconl.com wrote: OK, had a system crash, archived and installed back to Sys 10.5.8 with Apple mail 3.6 and now cannot communicate with my to year old server mail system. Have called the provider with 2 different answers. I understand (I hope) that each change in the server list requires a restart, but cannot get through. I can log onto web email for the account. My question: do I need to delete preferences for a clean start? will it help? Secondly, is there a way to get my mail from the old System folder? OS 10.5.8, dual 1.8 g5, 4 gigs ram, lots of hard drive I think you made your own problems by possibly jumping the gun for the full reinstall. Normally the process for a non-booting System would be: 1) try a Safe Boot by holding Shift key at startup. 2) Boot alternate disk, partition, or disc and run Disk UtilityRepair Disk. 3) reinstall the latest Combo Update, in this case the 10.5.8 Combo Update. Only as a last resort should you reinstall the whole System software. Now that you've gone this route, you'll probably have to mess around with this for a long time. I've always avoided the Archive Reinstall method, and rather opted for a clean reinstall on an alternate HD and then transfer all the accounts and data with Migration Assistant. You'll probably have to manually find your old mail files, and old mail preferences now, a real hassle. I wish I could help, and I have done this before, but I can't remember what I did (other than transfer files folders from the archived system into the new system). You've got a lot of work to do now. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Sent Box empty
Greetings, In your home account, Library/Mail move the file Envelope Index to the Desktop and then open your mail account. When Mail opens you will get a screen almost like it is the first time you have opened mail. Then there will be a period that the system is rebuilding all of the mail boxes. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca On Sep 10, 10:20 am, Cliff Rediger redicl...@thecriticalcrab.net wrote: Mail 2.1.3 OS 10.4.11 In process of trying to export my mail accounts over to Intel machine I've ended up with an empty Sent box for one of my POP accounts. An in-Mail search for sent emails shows them in the Sent Box But the Box itself shows empty. Apple support suggests importing the mail box but I get a no valid mbox files located. Wondering if deleting the plist file in the Sent box would work/help. Other Sent boxes for other accounts seem to be working fine. Suggestions appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Sent Box empty
On Sep 10, 10:20 am, Cliff Rediger redicl...@thecriticalcrab.net wrote: Mail 2.1.3 OS 10.4.11 I've ended up with an empty Sent box for one of my POP accounts. An in-Mail search for sent emails shows them in the Sent Box But the Box itself shows empty. Apple support suggests importing the mail box but I get a no valid mbox files located. A Google search finds others complaining about similar problem mostly, it seems, with IMAP accounts. I found a solution by deleting and recreating the specific POP account. Bob's-your-uncle. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail Sent Box empty
Mail 2.1.3 OS 10.4.11 In process of trying to export my mail accounts over to Intel machine I've ended up with an empty Sent box for one of my POP accounts. An in-Mail search for sent emails shows them in the Sent Box But the Box itself shows empty. Apple support suggests importing the mail box but I get a no valid mbox files located. Wondering if deleting the plist file in the Sent box would work/help. Other Sent boxes for other accounts seem to be working fine. Suggestions appreciated. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail Question
How do I send a letter to 10 people without the address of the other 9 being displayed? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Question
On Aug 14, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: How do I send a letter to 10 people without the address of the other 9 being displayed? This is what the BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) line is for. If you're using Mail.app, and it isn't present in the composition window, make sure 'BCC Address Field' menu item in the View menu is checked. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Question
On 14 Aug 2011, at 09:36:53 PDT, Jeffrey Engle wrote: How do I send a letter to 10 people without the address of the other 9 being displayed? - IIRC, sending it BCC, with yourself as the first addressee works. Ken -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Question
Use bcc . Sent from my iPad On Aug 14, 2011, at 12:36, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: How do I send a letter to 10 people without the address of the other 9 being displayed? Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Question
Hey Jeffrey! You'll need to activate the BCC entry-field in Mail. Here's how: http://email.about.com/od/macosxmailtips/qt/How_to_Add_Bcc_Recipients_in_Mac_OS_X_Mail.htm BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) sends an exact copy of the e-mail you've set up, but the e-mail addresses added in the BCC line will not be visible to (at least) any recipients listed in the 'To' and 'CC' fields. Might even be so that no one sees the e-mail addresses in the BCC entry field! Greetings, Eelco. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail Question
On 2011/08/14 10:58, QuoVadis so eloquently wrote: Might even be so that no one sees the e-mail addresses in the BCC entry field! That is correct, if all of the addressees are BCC none of them will be able to see who else it went out to. On the flip side, if you want to see who you sent a message to previously using BCC, double-click the message and when it opens in it's own window it should show who the recipients were. Note that this only works for messages you originated, not messages you received BCC. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
how to restore mail without the .plist file??
I have the Mail folder from ~ / Library / but I don't have the .plist file that goes with it... I had to do a nuke and pave last night and I got in a hurry.. I know, bad combonation. please can someone shed some light on how to recover from this? TIA Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Apple is fun, But Jesus saves and satisfies! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: how to restore mail without the .plist file??
On Jul 2, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I have the Mail folder from ~ / Library / but I don't have the .plist file that goes with it... I had to do a nuke and pave last night and I got in a hurry.. I know, bad combonation. please can someone shed some light on how to recover from this? TIA try importing it from Mail. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
I have been having the same problem lately. I just keep re-entering the password and one can access through a web browser. It may be an issue with Mail 2.1.3 - Tiger? Also, be sure and DO NOT RESPOND to the spam please verify your account e-mails that seem to stalk Yahoo. SPAM is getting smarter, I guess. AOL Mail used to intercept just about everything, but more and more spam is getting through these days. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
At 8:16 PM -0700 6/23/2011, Cliff Rediger wrote: At 12:32 PM -0700 6/23/2011, Cliff Rediger wrote: Still no joy. I now cannot POP mail yahoo at all. On Jun 23, 12:51 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: And since this is a service for which you paid, contact Yahoo directly. Yahoo doesn't make it easy to contact them. That's totally completely massively unacceptable from a for-$$$ service provider. Get thyself away from them ASAP. Seriously, considering dropping Yahoo, except I've had the address for so long and it's associated with can't-remember-how-many accounts. Yea. I know how that goes. What a PITA. I've got several GMail accounts, a Yahoo account, and a few elsewhere. When my original provider, Netaddress -- the ubercool @usa.net domain - went pay, I thought ... ok, it was cheap. But then the next year they went PAY! wtf! From $12 to $50/yr! So I went to Yahoo. About the time I got things migrated, Yahoo went pop-for-pay! g. Before that changeover they were rock solid. After, outages and other problems galore! That's when I switched to GMail. Kept the Yahoo account as webmail. Took me about two years to migrate fully. I spend hours trying many different configs. I'm finding two different sets of settings being recommended in Yahoo's help system. How nice. This page seems to be the latest, and was updated YESTERDAY (June 23)! http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/mailplus/pop/pop-14.html It says to use pop.mail.yahoo.com, SSL and port 995. smtp.mail.yahoo.com, SSL, port 465, auth. But then other (older) pages say to use servers such as plus.pop.mail.yahoo.com and plus.smtp.mail.yahoo.com (same ssl and port settings) Finally, for now anyway, I'm having Yahoo mail forwarded to my other email address. Good. And when you reply, it should have the better address on the outgoing messages. Start telling people to use it instead... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
On Jun 24, 2011, at 9:22 AM, admin wrote: I have been having the same problem lately. I just keep re- entering the password and one can access through a web browser. It may be an issue with Mail 2.1.3 - Tiger? Also, be sure and DO NOT RESPOND to the spam please verify your account e-mails that seem to stalk Yahoo. SPAM is getting smarter, I guess. AOL Mail used to intercept just about everything, but more and more spam is getting through these days. -- I have found Apple Mail doesn't work with the free Yahoo Mail service. You have to pay for their premium mail account. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
At 9:56 AM -0700 6/24/2011, John Carmonne wrote: I have found Apple Mail doesn't work with the free Yahoo Mail service. You have to pay for their premium mail account. Well, yea. Their free service is webmail only. To use Apple Mail you need POP3 or IMAP. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
On Jun 24, 10:38 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:56 AM -0700 6/24/2011, John Carmonne wrote: I have found Apple Mail doesn't work with the free Yahoo Mail service. You have to pay for their premium mail account. Yes, I'm a paid customer. So, finally found the Yahoo complaint (customer care) form yesterday late. Today, Yahoo POP3 working OK. No way of knowing what's different. One of the main reasons I've kept the Yahoo acct was ease of web mail for the rare traveling. But, I think I'll now begin migrating elsewhere. Thanks for all the input and support. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: On Jun 22, 8:52 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: Switched to Yahoo Mail Classic and problem went away. Spoke too soon. I send a test message to the yahoo acct and then 'get mail' manually and Mail POP retrieves it OK. But, then when Mail auto checks for mail, I get the error message The POP server “pop.mail.yahoo.com” rejected the password for user “myusername” And, it will not accept/recognize my password and then password will not work at all. So, back to request for shared experience and suggestions. Use Keychain Access and go delete all saved internet passwords for Yahoo. This has cleared up similar issues Ive seen in the past. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
On Jun 22, 8:52 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: Switched to Yahoo Mail Classic and problem went away. Spoke too soon. I send a test message to the yahoo acct and then 'get mail' manually and Mail POP retrieves it OK. But, then when Mail auto checks for mail, I get the error message The POP server “pop.mail.yahoo.com” rejected the password for user “myusername” And, it will not accept/recognize my password and then password will not work at all. So, back to request for shared experience and suggestions. thank you Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
On Jun 23, 11:19 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: On Jun 22, 8:52 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: Switched to Yahoo Mail Classic and problem went away. Spoke too soon. I send a test message to the yahoo acct and then 'get mail' manually and Mail POP retrieves it OK. But, then when Mail auto checks for mail, I get the error message The POP server “pop.mail.yahoo.com” rejected the password for user “myusername” And, it will not accept/recognize my password and then password will not work at all. So, back to request for shared experience and suggestions. Use Keychain Access and go delete all saved internet passwords for Yahoo. This has cleared up similar issues Ive seen in the past. -- Bruce Johnson Thanks for that suggestion Bruce. I did try that and since I use 1Password I also deleted all yahoo entries. Still no joy. I now cannot POP mail yahoo at all. Kind of surprised at Yahoo's site and help. Full of false references and incomplete information. The do not even mention Mac Mail in their set up advise. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
At 12:32 PM -0700 6/23/2011, Cliff Rediger wrote: Still no joy. I now cannot POP mail yahoo at all. Yahoo's repeated authentication issues notwithstanding... Make sure your authentication settings match their current requirements, tls etc. And since this is a service for which you paid, contact Yahoo directly. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
At 12:32 PM -0700 6/23/2011, Cliff Rediger wrote: Still no joy. I now cannot POP mail yahoo at all. On Jun 23, 12:51 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: And since this is a service for which you paid, contact Yahoo directly. Thanks for the response Dan. Yahoo doesn't make it easy to contact them. I spend hours trying many different configs. Finally, for now anyway, I'm having Yahoo mail forwarded to my other email address. I have Mail rule that puts the forwarded emails into a mailbox, but to get them up near the Inbox, I have a Smart mail box that draws from that forward box. It's a jury rig but acceptable for now. Seriously, considering dropping Yahoo, except I've had the address for so long and it's associated with can't-remember-how-many accounts. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
When checking yahoo POP Plus account I get The POP server “pop.mail.yahoo.com” rejected the password for user “myusername” Please re-enter your password, or cancel. This has happened periodically recently. I'd have to enter my password, check the remember box and the check would complete. Today, it stopped accepting any password at all. Looked at yahoo settings, made some changes Changed my password Still no joy. Not much help found googling or on yahoo help Suggestions and shared experience appreciated Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail 2.1.3 Yahoo Mail
On Jun 22, 8:27 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote: When checking yahoo POP Plus account I get The POP server “pop.mail.yahoo.com” rejected the password for user “myusername” Please re-enter your password, or cancel. This has happened periodically recently. I'd have to enter my password, check the remember box and the check would complete. Today, it stopped accepting any password at all. Looked at yahoo settings, made some changes Changed my password Still no joy. Not much help found googling or on yahoo help Suggestions and shared experience appreciated Cliff Switched to Yahoo Mail Classic and problem went away. Cliff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bounced mail?
Yep, I think I got about 120 so far -Original Message- From: Jonas Ulrich <jonasulrich3...@gmail.com> Sent: Jun 11, 2011 3:43 PM To: g3-5-list <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> Subject: Bounced mail? Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long time ago?-- -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Bounced mail?
Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long time ago? -- -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
