Prejudice comes from ignorance.
Ignorance can be changed.
change takes effort.
Effort begins with initiative.
Initiative starts with belief in one's self. Which is exactly what I'm
suggesting here in regard to audio game development of all things. :)
In order to make a developer or anyone
The key generator would be itself worth the price of everything it unlocks.
This really is the heart of a company's security and livelihood. In this case
though, since the company is going out of business and the life span of each
title is questionable, (not to mention that many people have
NOw i wish i was a programer i'd make a narnia game for us and a game based
on watership down by richard adams, if there is one tell me someone please.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
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hi kara.
well I do participate on list and to a limited extent on the forum.
I test whenever a project is given me, sometimes I give sounds if I have them.
I am no programmer or writer but I do help where I can.
At 06:07 PM 4/18/2013, you wrote:
Prejudice comes from ignorance.
Ignorance can
On this page, they list/offer 4 sort of real interactive fiction narnia
eBooks, but, they seem to be scanned page PDF files, inside zip files, and
am busy running one of them through PDF2TXT's OCR functionality to see if
it's readable/usable at all, but, would also assume/expect that there
Hi Tom.
Also I've noticed a massive gender bias. Violence or torment of a man is
seen as far more acceptable than the same thing of a woman or a child (and
lets not even get into the subject s/xual violence against men), a great
example of this is the film kickass, which features the super
Hi tom.
Well in terms of the views of religious fundamentalists, I do know tv
stations such as scifi have started announcing programs that contain magic.
To me this seems insane, and indeed most christians I encounter in Britain
wouldn't hold such a view (I think the christians in Americ on
Hi Tom.
well as you know, you and I have very different schemas for upgrades. Myself
I'd think of it the other way around, and if microsoft don't give me the
ability to play older programs like! the Bsc games, why should I upgrade my
windows anyway? But we've had that conversation previously.
It also amuses me when christians disagree with magic on principle, because
I have met several wickens who practice magic which they see simply as a
practical way of praying to god or the goddess aspect of God depending upon
the brand of wicken
thus, a spell to rid yourself of trouble could
hmmm well they will definately come out for all, it would be nice if
he was nice about it, but oh well they will be uploaded, I just
didn't a core dev would behave like this, everyone saw what happened
with james north, and its not like we preasured justin or anything.
Then again part of me is
Hi are we able to get copies of just the games and not the other software?
like say I only wanted to perches trupinum, trupinum 2 and hunter. would I
be able to just perches those games with out the other software? and ps will
these games run on windows xp sp 3 and also under windows 7 each 32
i'd just get your keys now if i were you and not waste the money
On 18 Apr 2013, at 12:05, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi are we able to get copies of just the games and not the other software?
like say I only wanted to perches trupinum, trupinum 2 and hunter. would I
be able to just
Hi Mich.
No, the whole is sold as a bundle, no exceptions. If you want to discuss
getting individual titles, please email me off list and I will be able to
help you.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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Hi, have a cyberassault mud question. Besides the game's webpage, which
gives a description of the classes (example, crazies, borgs, mercenaries,
stalkers, predators, and callers), the information is pretty lacking. Game
commands, if all classes can tap all skills in the game, etc. Is there
well the thing is that I don't have any of the games downloaded that is why
I asked. from Mich.
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From: Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question if we are able to
Hi Mich.
OK, if you buy the games from blind software.com, you will receive no
support after the 17th of May as the website is closing down, that means
you'll have an unlock code for your current computer configuration but no
further replacement, hence why the bundle is a great deal. If you
Hi ok well I wont be able to do anything until after the first of the month
when I get paid but thx for getting back to me. from Mich.
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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013
And they're probably based on the movies and not the books.
But thou must!
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From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:34 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Those who think that The Chronicles of
Unfortunatel we aren't.
But thou must!
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From: Mich
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:05 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] question if we are able to bye the games with out
theother softwair?
Hi are we able to get copies of just the games and not
Hi,
If you guys remember, I contacted the list about a month ago because
blindsoftware.com had not gotten back to me on a problem I was having. Guess
what? They still have not answered my question. So, my question is, why should
I buy this package, if I can't even get classic Pipe and Classic
Hello
Can some1 give me the link so I can check it out b4 they close.
Thank u
James
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From: Thomas Ward [mailto:thomasward1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi Kelly,
I am glad you
Its a waste no matter how you look at it.
At 07:06 AM 4/18/2013, you wrote:
i'd just get your keys now if i were you and not waste the money
On 18 Apr 2013, at 12:05, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
Hi are we able to get copies of just the
games and not the other software? like say I
only
Hi
So where do I send my $5 to. I have 2 imit I have never played 1 of
there games, but games r like books 2 me, and we need 2 hold on and keep
them safe. Not only 4 ower gen but 4 ower kids and there kids and so on and
so on. In order 2 know where u r going u have 2 know where u have
What's with all those numbers? LOL.
But thou must!
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From: James Bartlett
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:14 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Hi
So where do I send my $5 to. I have 2 imit I have never played 1 of
Hello Dennis
I just want 2 say thank u and Oriol 4 working on this. I know when
things go wrong u guys hear about it, but u never hear the thanks when
things r running right. So I just wanted 2 tell u again thank u so very
much.
Bfn
James
a. k. a.
Caspero
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Sorry about that Tom.
Will do for the future.
Just thought someone could help me out.
Thanks.
Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:23 PM
To:
Hi Shaun and all,
Before we all say its OK to just pirate the games or share them around
I think we should first get Justin's input on it. Remember even though
he is basically abandoning them he still retains copyrights on all of
that software and if he wanted to he could hold people legally
Hello Dark
Yes I totally agry with u on this. Greed rules the world, but at
least there r so many on here that r not willing 2 let these games die.
Bfn
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Hi Shaun,
No, we didn't pressure Justin, but I think he made his reasons
perfectly clear on his blog. When he started Blindsoftware.com he was
young, single, and had plenty of time to write games and other
applications. Now he is married, has kids, and a full time job the BSC
Games and
Hi Dark,
Well, I have mixed feelings about what Justin is doing. While his
actions may seem greedy he never made any claims to be giving these
games away for charity. BSC Games and Blindsoftware.com have always
been commercial ventures so in that light he is doing what any
business person would
Hello there
Very well put.
Bfn
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Hi Shaun,
Well, I don't worry too much about Draconis Entertainment. Josh has
already started porting his games to iOS, Mac, and Windows using the
new Draconis Engine and I'm sure over the next couple of years or so
more games will follow. As for the rest of the companies on your list
we have to
hI
Well I kind of agry with u on this, but I think thay should tell u
something about the game like what it is about, but not tell u the releas
date. So it builds up your excitement on the game. So when it does come out
people r more exsided 2 play it. They should just say things like
Ask the developer. He would know.
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From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:05 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] question if
Ok. Let's just step back a bit and work from the beginning.
You are firing your gun when you don't mean to because of a setting
called tap to click. This is a very common, almost universal setting
on a touchpad. Your touch pad will be unique to itself, because
manufacturers love not integrating
I haven't played life all thaqt much, and the version I played may not
be the same version as the one your game was based off of.
Both physical versions I played did have the option to trade jobs with
another player at some point though, which made things ... well, a
little sneaky, if you know
Hi Ryan.
Once Blind software.com goes offline, so too do the scoreboards, though the
games will remain fully functional apart from the score posting capability.
You can always maintain and review your own top 10 scores and the games run
perfectly well with Windows 7.
All the best, Ibrahim.
Calling Zombies Run a game is misleading. Yeah.
It has some aspects where you have to upgrade certain stuff, but if
you're looking for a full on intera ctive fiction experience, it seems
you might be missing the point somewhat.
It's more of an ... oh my word, I can't believe I'm about to say
Hi.
I can appreciate that Justin has other commitments, but I am a little
bothered that basically he's prophiting from these and then letting them die
out. myself, I'd be much happier if he did as Dan Zingaro did and offer a
keygen along with making the games abandonware. i'll likely buy them
Hi Shaun and all,
Justin is not on the Audyssey mailing list, and has not been for a
very very long time. So don't expect him to suddenly chime in because
this entire debate is not even being
transmitted to the people who are in a position
to do something about it. We are
Hi Tom.
You said it yourself, it's because! he's not offering support or continuance
of the software in the future that makes this different from a closing down
sale. also, I feel he is bein greedy because he is not considdering the fact
that unlike when any other shop closes, you won't be
Hi Mich,
No, you can't just buy the games and other software you want. You pay
a flat rate of $75 and get everything plus the key generator weather
you want them or not. There are no individual sales here if you want
the key generator.
As far as compatibility I have Troopenum II and Pipe II
I agree Decota there is indeed a difference betwene audio and accessible
games, but I do not agree that difference is as easily quantified as you
suggest, since to me something like alteraeon with the soundpack, lone wolf,
king of dragon pass or smugglers because! they feature sound and spoken
Hi Shaun,
Weather a Sith Lord is satanic or not really is beside the point. The
point is that some religious people, note I said some, have tunnel
vision when they look at secular games, movies, etc. Instead of taking
an alien with powers as an alien with powers or a sorceress who uses
magic for
yeah there are descussions on the forum though they have petered out.
Yesterday I was tempted to get it all now I want to cut and run.
the games were really good, i can't say I have
played them all that much of late though.
and while I like and use cookie muncher its not a big issue if it all
I pretty much agree with what you and thomas said. Unfortunately it
appears that the contact form on the site is broken. It doesn't help
that Justin is a very private man (I'm not aware if he has a facebook or
twitter profile that we could reach him), which is a real shame since it
would be a
tom well if you or anyone in the list has his private email or
something and can get him to talk before blindsoftware closes then I
am all ears I am sure everyone wants to hear his side and hash out a deal.
after blindsoftware closes though the games will continue to flow no
matter what.
if he
My x Chelsey was like that whenever I'd play Lufia or Lunar. Lufia because
mortals were opposing a god rather than paying homage to him, Lunar because
instead of a god it was a goddess, Althena, who had four dragons and a
special warrior known as a Dragonmaster to protect her.
But thou
I know we didn't but there are a few here that choose to read my
mails wrongly.
As you well know my temper has a tendency to go firy like when I
really get compationit about something.
I don't have the energy or time for a mud slinging match on here.
At 03:03 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi
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Hi Dark,
Well, you are right. A lot of the censorship of games etc isn't based
on any kind of rational discussion of the facts. If a game has a witch
or wizard its automatically considered to be evil. Not because it
really is evil as most people understand it today, but because of a
verse in
I agree on both points, the clearance store thing never crossed my
mind but that could be true to the fact that a lot of stores here in
nz are always in sale and clearance mode due to the economy.
Yeah that also crossed my mind.
But on that point I think its fair to say that just about every
you are right on that I guess its the part of me that realises all
our classic games could potentually die and be gone.
I saw those games come into full products.
I saw and tested shades of doom when it was a baby.
So I am a bit closer to the older stuff.
no it won't kill us, but it will take a
agree on this, eventually if this doesn't get a final hashing with
him a thing that we will do if and when he gets on here, heck who knows.
after it closes though eventually the games will freely be avalible
no matter what.
yet again if he comes on to talk then we may yet solve this however
well if the contact emails on the blindsoftware page worked and were
not overloaded or not working I'd have sent this debate to him.
but they havn't worked since the end of last year.
At 04:38 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi Shaun and all,
Justin is not on the Audyssey mailing list, and has not
I agree with you, its a danger, I do hope that we will be able to get
something done before closing time but I intend to do just that if
it doesn't happen, I need to backup the games to online storage for
myself as it is, I won't distribute right now but it won't be to
much to do so.
Then
blindsoftware does have a twitter and facebook and official messages
could be put through those things.
I heard that someone on here has contact with the support person of
blindsoftware privately now we could use that contact to get justin
to at least make a statement or come on here if its
so do I, and when those that don't like them are in range I just
don't run them.
At 05:37 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi Dark,
Well, you are right. A lot of the censorship of games etc isn't based
on any kind of rational discussion of the facts. If a game has a witch
or wizard its automatically
Hi Bryan,
Been there and done that. I've known my share of people who expressed
similar opinions about games, movies, or books I was interested in
where they made a comment that if so and so prayed the problem would
be solved. They seem to miss the point that it would be a pretty
boring video
Dark,
I don't think it's your place to call him greedy, and I don't think
it's his job to provide support if he doesn't want to. He created
those games, he built and wrote them and put time into them, and he
can charge anything he wants for it, for as long as he retains
ownership. He never
Hi Shaun and all,
Unfortunately, I don't have Justin's current contact info. A couple of
people have asked me for this information, and let me state for the
record I don't have anything newer than the old BSC Games addresses
which of course have been gone for at least a year or so. So I don't
Hi Everyone,
Can you play Swamp with a game pad? I know I've asked this question before
But what is the best game pad or controller I can get for a computer running
windows 7?
Thank you all so much.
Regards,
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Hi all,
BSC was a pioneer in the early days of accessible audio games for modern
platforms. There are a handful of companies and developers without whom the
industry would not exist as it does today, and Justin is one of those.
I'm disappointed, but not really surprised, to see some of the
A little. It's one thing to offer the games and other programs he's written
at ridiculously reduced prices. But it's quite another to basically force
those who've already purchased said titles to basically purchase them again,
as well as programs they may not necessarily want just so that they
I completely miss the point of the message. It's not a matter of people
wanting it for free, it's the problem of the games not being available,
at all, after may. That ,and if people already bought the games already,
then how would you explain why paying $75, for all of his software,
probably
My thoughts exactly, only said better and calmer than I feel I could have
said it, hence the reason I didn't get involved.
As it happens, despite pretty much paying for the games twice due to
annoying but understandable circumstances, I have now paid for them a third
time in order that I can
You could only say you're being forced to re-purchase products you already own
if he was charging the full price…but he isn't. Not even close. You're
effectively getting the majority of the products for free.
But regardless, I've said my piece. I didn't expect many to agree with me.
Carry on.
We're still basically having to purchase them again as well as other
products not everybody's going to be interested in.
But thou must!
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From: Draconis
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:35 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting
I don't mind paying for what I don't have, but don't feel that I should have
to pay for already purchased software as part of a package. For me, this is
the issue. Why should everyone have to purchase the full package when most
probably have already purchased part of it?
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Hi Charles.
You've seen my emails on this subject I've no doubt, however I'm happy to
sell unlock codes for those unwilling or unable to purchase the package as a
whole or who don't want to spend the $75 for what they see as pre-owned
licensed software. I have had several customers already
Well, Draconis.
I don't think that it is people not agreeing with you, it is that
people feel that they just want their keys for only the items they paid for.
Exsample I only had purchased five items out of all the items that he
was offering, so I feel that I should just get the keys to the
Several people are still saying they are being forced to repurchase games they
already own. So, let me break this down into an example that may help with
those missing the point.
There are 8 Harry Potter films. If we say the average price of these eon DVD is
$20, for the sake of argument, the
That is precisely my point as well.
But thou must!
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From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:44 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey]BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
I don't mind paying for what I don't have, but don't feel that
Or you can just buy the individual films you want once and have done. That's
the whole point.
But thou must!
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From: Draconis
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:02 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Several
So, what you're saying, is you want Justin to devote time and effort to write
brand-new, individual key generators for each and every title, sell them off
piece meal, and charge full price for them?
Wow.
In the example…
Buying the individual films you want at full price would cost almost
Exactly. It might be more expensive in the long run, but the whole
point that some of us are making is that we should be able to choose
whether we want the whole package, or just individual parts of it.
I know what the next phase of this argument will be, though. Something
along the lines of, but
I didn't say that. All I said is it doesn't make sense to have to repurchase
what we've already paid for. Then of course there's the fact tat he's
basically requiring s to buy a bunch of other stuff that not everybody's
going to be interested in on top of that. Some of those other products were
Why would he have to write separate keygens for each program, though?
The classic pipe and Troopanum games used the same system. There's one
down. Pipe and Troopanum2 used another one. I'm not sure what kind of
system the word games used, having never bought them, but since they
were released
Well said Desiree.
But thou must!
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From: Desiree Oudinot
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:24 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Exactly. It might be more expensive in the long run, but the whole
point that
Justin should've just sold the key generator for $75. It would have had the
same exact result, and you all would be able to grasp what he's doing.
The key generator creates keys for *all* *of* *the* *titles.*
He either sells them all, or he doesn't sell the generator at all. It's that
simple,
And that last point is the one I'm trying to make. And some may wat only the
five arcade games and not the word games. Why should we be forced to pay for
those on top of what we actually wanted? If the packages were split up I'm
sure people would be more inclined to pay.
But thou must!
Most developers have a single key generation app that handles all the different
systems and generating keys for them. If you read Justin's post, he says you
are getting the key generator program, singular.
But I'm feeling like I'm the only person who actually read his post. LOL
On Apr 18,
Ok, but you just said something about him creating multiple key
generators. Now I'm confused. Either way, it's not a smart business
tactic. Will that change the way it's being handled? I don't think so.
Will it change anyone's opinion who's disagreeing? I doubt that, too.
I have a feeling we could
I said that because Brian, and others, are saying that want to be able to only
buy generators for the games they already own, and not for those they don't
care about. This means Justin would have to create generators for each game
individually that don't currently exist to accommodate these
Hi Josh,
Oh, I think most of us understand what Justin is doing and why. At
least I certainly do. I know that there is one key generator that does
it all, and of course that appears to be the source of the
disagreement here.
For example, I purchased Troopenum II a long time ago when the game
It's only natural. Why should we basically be forced to buy a bunchof extra
stuff in addition to what we actually want, some of which I need hardly
point out was free to begin with?
But thou must!
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From: Draconis
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Gamers
Charles,
You don't just get to decide what is for sale. You don't get to go to
a store and say, I only want half of this frozen dinner because I
still have left overs from my previous one. The whole package is
what's currently for sale, and your three options are to buy it, not
buy it, or ask
But you at least still get to choose what to buy.
But thou must!
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From: Dennis Towne
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:52 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Charles,
You don't just get to decide what is for
They have emails for each product on:
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Not only that but with the way Microsoft is going it sounds as though that
75 bucks will go to waste sooner or later anyway since sooner or later the
programs won't even run on more recent systems.
But thou must!
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From: Thomas Ward
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013
true, it would be nice if he eventually came back.
I do hope that one day he will come back.
At 07:10 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi all,
BSC was a pioneer in the early days of accessible audio games for
modern platforms. There are a handful of companies and developers
without whom the industry
I aggree with all points and viewpoints so far.
At 07:31 AM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
My thoughts exactly, only said better and calmer
than I feel I could have said it, hence the
reason I didn't get involved. As it happens,
despite pretty much paying for the games twice
due to annoying but
The message was pretty clear. Forever usually means forever.
But thou must!
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From: shaun everiss
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reacti ons
true, it would be nice if he
I just hope the bionics system gets fixed, right now it's way too weird and
buggy. There are implants that have requirements of other implants that use
the same slots, like chassis and spine, ones that require implants that are
supposed to be borg only but that you can still get without meeting
I suppose you're getting duplicates of what you already have at a rock
bottom price. Question remains, though: Do you want them? If you only
want to buy the key generator, as Microsoft keeps advancing the platforms
and older ones get obsolete, will the key generator still work?
www.nbp.org
Yeah, this part is incredibly odd. If you turn VoiceOver off and just tap
around, it eventually works. For some reason VoiceOver won't focus on any
other button than the one the tutorial puts you on. This is the only time
you ever have to do this though, after you get through the tutorial, all
Unless I am misunderstanding, the key generator will generate keys for all
products? You don't need a separate generator for each product.
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To:
If the key generator is worth $75 when considering the time and effort that
went into creating it, I would pay the $75 for the key generator. The way
his announcement was worded, though, was that you must buy everything for 1
flat fee, which is what is bothering some people. And, as Thomas
Yeah, and frankly, how would it look if a whole bunch of people paid
$75 for this package, and then a few months later, Blindsoftware
popped back into existance with some new game or title?
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The message was pretty clear. Forever usually
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