ya
I understand liam's problem so I suggest him to choose someone and
give some responsibility of LWorks. like programming and coding
if he is not able to programme or if he is busy in his job then this
will be the better idea.
the example of PCSGames inspire us.
Liam should sign the agreement
What if he decided to rewrite the game in BGT instead? would that work?
At 03:12 PM 9/7/2014, you wrote:
Dark,
Agreed. A lot of audio game developers have just pulled out without
any explanations, and what Justin did was just wrong in my opinion.
Liam isn't doing himself any favors by not
was.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
To some
Hi Lisa and all,
If you have not already done so I suggest reading the post forwarded
to the list which answers a few questions about Super Liam and
Judgement Day. For the most part I completely understand why Liam is
doing what he is doing, and I think his explanation makes sense.
for those who
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 7:45 PM
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He's not stealing anything. The software is his to begin with.
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Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished, you
then people could still enjoy them.
From Lori.
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From: dark
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 2:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Tom.
You might be correct about a rewrite, however given
Hi Ishan,
Let's begin with the fact that audio game developers do not and have
never made a lot of money making audio games. It isn't a profitable
venture and most developers do so as a hobby or just to make a little
money on the side. That is why a few developers startup a company,
produce a few
Hi Ishan,
I think you missed the point of that post. My mentioning of possible
updates was merely speculation, a possible hypothesis, used to
illustrate the fact nobody really knew what his long term intentions
were.
However, we now have a responce fromm Liam, and his intentions are
much more
: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Lisa and all,
If you have not already done so I suggest reading the post forwarded
to the list which answers a few questions about Super Liam and
Judgement Day. For the most part I completely understand why Liam is
doing what he
Hi Stephen,
Sure. However, given the fact Liam has a 9 to5 job I doubt he really
has the time to put into rewriting either game from scratch in BGT.
That would resolve support issues, but require more time and effort
than I suspect he has to put into a couple of old games.
Cheers!
On 9/7/14,
does anyone know what E-mail address I can contact Liam on?
While it is Liam's choice to discontinue support for the software (silly
microsoft should be shot for causing this much trouble), I completely
disagree with his point that offering the games for free is bad for
previous customers.
: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Stephen,
Sure. However, given the fact Liam has a 9 to5 job I doubt he really
has the time to put
...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Lisa and all,
If you have not already done so I suggest reading the post forwarded
to the list which answers a few
feel that the way
he's handling things leans in that direction.
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:12 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing
Motion seconded, and well said.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:53 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
In my
Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Ishan,
Let's begin with the fact that audio game developers do not and have
never made a lot of money making audio games. It isn't a profitable
venture and most developers do so as a hobby or just to make a little
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
does anyone know what E-mail address I can contact Liam on?
While it is Liam's choice to discontinue support for the software (silly
microsoft should be shot
needs that.
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: dark
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:29 AM
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does
Hi Lisa,
Me being technically minded would agree with that assessment. A
rewrite would be a hell of a job. Especially, considering the time and
effort that would go into it. Liam has already mentioned he has a
regular 9 to 5 job, and nobody wants to go to work all day and then
have to come home
milos.pr...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 2:46 PM
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stealing? Yes and no. Has anyone noticed that Liam decided to drop
everything after people complaining about
Hi Ishan,
Super Liam didn't die at the end of Super Liam. Liam has repeatedly
stated on a number of occasions Liam doesn't actually die. The scene
was created that way to leave gamers hanging for Super Liam II which
never was created.
The only analogies I can compare it to off the top of my head
He says that it would be wrong to make his games freeware because it would
punish the people who bought them, but by not offering them at this point,
he is punishing people who actually would buy it. So here is what I would
propose.
1. Continue to see the games, with the following disclaimer:
No
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Lisa,
Me being technically minded would agree with that assessment. A
rewrite would be a hell of a job. Especially, considering the time and
effort
Hi Charles,
Definitely agree. Anyone who purchases a product from someone and it
later goes on sale or is given away for free has no right to gripe
about it. If they do it is just sour grapes on part of the complainer.
These things happen all the time, and it is not the sellers
responsibility to
Hi Dark,
Weather or not Microsoft deserves to be shot over dropping support for
Visual Basic 6 is debatable. I seriously wish you would become an
informed user and study the technical reasons why Microsoft chose to
discontinue certain technologies rather than just blaming them for it.
Then again,
Hi all.
this comes from l-works.
Aparently no more superliam or judgement day anymore.
they will still honour replacement keys for judgement day and
superliam but obviously for whatever reason they can't support the
old games anymore.
Delivered-To: sm.ever...@gmail.com
I don't know why they can't make them as abandonware. Also what's
happening with Super Egg Hunt are they still going to offer that.
Confident they are but this wasn't mentioned here.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 06/09/2014 05:19, shaun
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Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 7:59 AM
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I don't know why they can't make them as abandonware. Also what's happening
with Super Egg Hunt are they still going
!
Dark.
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Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
I don't know why they can't make them
To be honest christopher i wasn't keen on justin's practice either sinse
while yes he did offer all his programs for free before giving them up, he
still has made it utterly impossible for anyone who didn't buy them in that
short time period to play them ever agaim, just as Liam has done.
Especially coming so quickly on the heels of bsc.
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 3:05 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
I agree
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I don't know why they can't make them as abandonware. Also what's
happening with Super Egg Hunt are they still going
Hi Ishan,
Although, I haven't checked the database I'm pretty sure Liam isn't on
this list or we would have heard from him before now. In any case I
think some here are perhaps over reacting to the news.
We don't know what Liam's long term plans are regarding these games.
There is a perfectly
Hi Tom.
You might be correct about a rewrite, however given the shoddy behaviour of
Justin dobemire on this issue I don't think Liam is doing any favours by not
admitting as much, sinse had he said Well I'm withdrawing the games from
sale while I go and rewrite them we'd all be now saying
I'll take your word for it to much header to actually read the email.
Try removing it next time if not to simple.
At 12:19 AM 9/6/2014, you wrote:
Hi all.
this comes from l-works.
Aparently no more superliam or judgement day anymore.
they will still honour replacement keys for judgement day
Lori.
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From: dark
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 2:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Tom.
You might be correct about a rewrite, however given the shoddy behaviour of
Justin dobemire
I haven't requested a key from liam for a while so can't say anything about
his key replacement policy, however given Justin's behaviour I don't think
people would take Liam essentially making two classic audio games legally
unavailable too well, which is why if he is planning to rewrite or
finished,
you! really! are! finished!
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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
I agree chrstopher.
While it is Liam's
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi super liam and judgement day they both are good games
surely liam don't want to become a super hero
liam gives me disappointment and sadness.
since I don't know about the super egg
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Ishan,
Although, I haven't checked the database I'm pretty sure Liam isn't
could still enjoy them.
From Lori.
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From: dark
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 2:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Hi Tom.
You might be correct about a rewrite, however given the shoddy
Hi Charlse.
Obviously if he were planning to release updates he shouldn't release
freeware versions, however if he were planning to update the games maybe he
should let people kkno as much so in fact people don't jump to the wrong
conclusion.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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True.
However, if he doesn't tell the community if this is because he wants to
drop the games forever, or if he is in fact working on new versions of said
games.
We can't know and if he doesn't say (in case of rewrites) it could upset
some people.
He wouldn't even need to give release dates or
/lisahayes
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: LWorks discontinuing sales of Legacy games
To some people, he may lose respect due to his lengthy tine
discontinuing sales of Legacy games
Dark,
Agreed. A lot of audio game developers have just pulled out without
any explanations, and what Justin did was just wrong in my opinion.
Liam isn't doing himself any favors by not giving more explanation as
to why he is discontinuing the sales of those games
Dark,
Agreed. A lot of audio game developers have just pulled out without
any explanations, and what Justin did was just wrong in my opinion.
Liam isn't doing himself any favors by not giving more explanation as
to why he is discontinuing the sales of those games or any plans for
long term
Hi Charles,
that's a given. I wish Liam had given more information about his
reasoning as it would lay a number of things to rest. Just like
everyone else I can only sit here and guess at what he may be thinking
or planning. However, unlike many I do not actively see his actions as
malicious, and
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