Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread shaun everiss
Well I have sighted friends on both sides. the first one is a hard core gamer and is on my radio programs. He uses steam loads and for the most part likes it except it does crash on ocation. Another I have lothes it because of its requiring to continously update a game before it can even

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread Ben
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 07 October 2012 00:20 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi Dark, While I sympathize with your complaints about Steam I can understand full well why Neils is using Steam. Steam is a digital content delivery

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread Darren Harris
hi dark, i doubt that he'd go for a mailing list. that's very much a blindy thing to be honest because people can't be bothered to navigate forums. i still think forums are the best way to go. much easier to control the flow of conversation etc. Sent from my iPad On 7 Oct 2012, at 00:50,

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread shaun everiss
I use both. I don't check forums as often but once a day or twice I do check the various topics on audiogames.net well the latest anyway. At 08:09 a.m. 7/10/2012 +0100, you wrote: hi dark, i doubt that he'd go for a mailing list. that's very much a blindy thing to be honest because people

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread dark
Hi Darren. I disagree on mailing lists being a blindy thing sinse I know several that are completely none vi related, such as the fabled lands and arborell lists for gamebook discussion both of which I'm on. While I personally like forums for the same reasons you mentioned (heck I do

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Darren, Ahem...I wouldn't say mailing lists area blind thing because a lot of people use them blind and sighted alike. There has been a trend towards forums, blogs, and things like that of late, but if you look around there are lists for just about everything under the sun. I myself am on a

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread Darren Harris
more to the point if it's purely a case of it being client based, then if they allow client development then that's a way around that. am not a fan of sewing for every little thing. i think it can create more problems than it solves. Sent from my iPad On 7 Oct 2012, at 11:29, Thomas Ward

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread Darren Harris
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 07 October 2012 11:51 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi Darren, Agreed. I think it should be possible,in theory at least, for someone to create a client for Steam that is accessible. People do

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-07 Thread shaun everiss
neither and besides we probably don't need the full feature set for steam. since most steam is not worth it we probably don't need most of it. At 11:36 a.m. 7/10/2012 +0100, you wrote: more to the point if it's purely a case of it being client based, then if they allow client development then

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Darren Harris
: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Well it's worth a shot perhaps, I haven't started playing it yet but I will do. Will the game end though when you hit a certain age? Last time certainly in sm3 it didn't take long only a few days play before your character retired lol

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Darren Harris
: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi dark, Yes, it would. I've only used Hotspot Clicker sparingly, but there are times when that program comes in handy. Smugglers is a game where that tool is really needed for seamless game play. On 10/5/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi alex. that is handy

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread dark
into the game. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released hi dark, am glad he will have a look. so how

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread dark
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi dark, Yes, it would. I've only used Hotspot Clicker sparingly, but there are times when that program comes in handy. Smugglers is a game where that tool is really needed for seamless

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread dark
Hi tom. If smugglers 4 works with win eyes, 5 will other than the icon problem I mentioned with combat sinse the interface and compatibility mode seem virtually identical, so i'd advise anyone wondering about s5 to give s4 a try sinse there the compatibility mode is stable with all labled

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Darren Harris
: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi Darren. My parents have been hear, and I'vew been out for the day with them, so not really had time to play, plus, combat is rather impossible at the moment sinse without special abilities just launching missiles and firing guns won't do it. As regards

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Darren Harris
Hi dark, Yeah I've noticed the combat issues now. would it help if multiple people wrote to him? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 06 October 2012 19:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread dark
witha propper forum. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi dark, Did they give any

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Darren Harris
October 2012 19:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi Darren. He pretty much indicated to me thathe was starting work on it, and it'll be in the first patch, so I'm hopefull that won't be long. perhaps another report to show him that people with screen

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread dark
Hi Darrren. Well i persuaded the steem thingy to work, but I can't say I'm impressed. It seems to be some kind of major gaming promotion service with it's own software which functions a little like itunes, however just because niels is obviously advertizing the game there I don't see why it

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Darren Harris
that side of it than i. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 06 October 2012 23:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi Darrren. Well i persuaded the steem thingy to work, but I can't say

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, While I sympathize with your complaints about Steam I can understand full well why Neils is using Steam. Steam is a digital content delivery system for game developers both commercial and independent alike created by Valve. Unfortunately, its not the most accessible software in the

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-06 Thread dark
Hi. from looking at their site that is what I gathered, but if niels is going to continue selling the games through his own site anyway that should be okay. I'm however a little disappointed that A, we can't support niels' developement on steam because it's an inaccessible system, and B, that

[Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Sarah Haake
Hi, I just got a newsletter from Nils Bauer games. Smugglers 5 is released as Beta, and it has a compatibility mode for blind players in it, just like Smugglers 4. The important part of the message is below. Smugglers 5 - Beta released !! I am happy to announce that we have finished

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi, I just got a newsletter from Nils Bauer games. Smugglers 5 is released as Beta, and it has a compatibility mode for blind players in it, just like

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Darren Harris
: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released I've just had a go of it, it seems a lot like four accept there is the planetary exploration option, which looks great. The only problem I'm having however is an issue in the combat display, with the buttons for special abilities and the like randomly

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
in s4 in one of the early betas. All the best, dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi dark, Well it's

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread william lomas
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 05 October 2012 13:58 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released I've just had a go of it, it seems a lot like four accept there is the planetary exploration option, which looks great. The only problem

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Darren Harris
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 05 October 2012 14:14 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released I'm not sure Darren. I remember a similar problem with one of the early s4 betas, but for some reason I can't find any of the extra special ability buttons

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
- From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Well it's worth a shot perhaps, I haven't started playing it yet but I will do. Will the game end

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Darren Harris
To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Hi Darren. I've mailed Niels and he says he'll have a look at the combat icons. I hope it's fixable, sinse it's a little irritating at the moment particularly sinse combat looks more complex, for those who've

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Jacob Kruger
list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released I've just had a go of it, it seems a lot like four accept there is the planetary exploration option, which looks great. The only problem I'm having however is an issue

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Darren Harris
You have to use the mouse exclusively -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 05 October 2012 17:31 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Ok, silly question is if they've implemented

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Jacob Kruger
released You have to use the mouse exclusively -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: 05 October 2012 17:31 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Ok, silly question is if they've

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Ok, silly question is if they've implemented screen reader

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Ok, but, if even the jaws/mouse cursor doesn't seem to recognise control types - it seems to call what I think must be checkboxes, something like a group box, how does

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Jacob Kruger
- From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released screen reader compatibility means labled text and buttons, not auto output. You'll need your screen readers' virtual curser

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released Main issue seems that neither of the screen readers recognises the control types, aside from reading text with mouse/jaws cursor, but, will try it out a bit more

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread Alex Wallis
Hi, I haven't played the beta myself, but I do have a suggestion that I found helps considerably with navigation in smugglers 4, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work with 5. I found that the hotspot clicker jaws scripts worked very well with 4. For those who don't know, hotspot clicker is

Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released

2012-10-05 Thread dark
Hi alex. that is handy to know. Would it help jaws users if I put links to hotspot clicker on the smugglers 4 page on audiogames.ent (and the smugglers 5 page when it has one). Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send