Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, While it is true mono isn't as feature filled as the Microsoft .NET Framework I wouldn't discount it as a viable development platform either. The current mono build/releases is similar to .NET 2.0 which is good enough for my purposes. I've already built and ran some test builds on

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi William, Not true. At the time I posted the poll weather MOTA should be a 3D game or a side-scroller the majority were in favor of keeping it a side-scroller. That is a majority not a minority. Smile. william lomas wrote: yeah i agree but only a minority made it not a 3d game not everyone

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Willem, That is true. For one thing the larger the testing team the broader the opinions. Already I have began counting up the poll results for which synth to use for the game, and there is a lot of different opinions. At this time there is no clear winner do to the differences in opinion.

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will, Eventually yes. We still have some Windows dependancies which we are currently in the progress of removing from the Genesis 3D engine such as the use of the Windows registry for storing settings, scores, and other global data. We are also porting the engine to Linux and once we have a

[Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread william lomas
hi thomas will the beta of the new mysteries of the ancients game be available for the paid members of the game, before release at all? or any form of public beta? many thanks and look forward to mota will --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Will, Yes. Eventually I will be posting a public beta for Mysteries of the Ancients. However, I have not posted a demo, because it isn't ready for the public yet. Although the Alphas are becoming quite stable for the private testers I have just bbegan some extensive upgrades to the Genesis

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread william lomas
hi this is great news but in another sense, cant the ones who already paid help test this product? true, i understand and so does everyone else, that all this mess came from james north, let's ot go over that again. but surely the ones who paid for it should be able to help play and test

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Matheus
lomaswill...@googlemail.com Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sabado, 17 de Janeiro de 2009 21:10 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients hi this is great news but in another sense, cant the ones who already paid help test this product? true, i understand

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Christian
it to who payd it and include then in the private beta testers. well this is only my opinion. -Mensagem original- De: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Sabado, 17 de Janeiro de 2009 21:10 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] beta

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients I back you guys on this one. - Original Message - From: Christian christia...@runbox.com To: gamers@audyssey.org; gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] beta

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
/weisi4u - Original Message - From: Cory ckadl...@verizon.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients I back you guys on this one. - Original Message - From: Christian

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, I personally don't agree with your point of views. Beta testers need to know alot about audiogames, and are competent enough to test it all, and have enough time to do it. (I am not saying you all are incompetent) Everyone can't be a beta tester, or else what is the point of it being a beta

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Shadow Dragon
. -- From: Ryan Smith computerwi...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients Hi, I personally don't agree with your point of views. Beta testers need to know alot

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Jason Allen
Well in Entombed's case, I'm new to the community so I thought a broader test phase would be better. It's true, there is a real danger in turning people off your game when they test it expecting a much more polished experience. I think it helps to only open the game to testers when it will exceed

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Shadow Dragon
: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients Well in Entombed's case, I'm new to the community so I thought a broader test phase would be better. It's true, there is a real danger in turning people off your game when they test it expecting a much more polished experience. I think it helps to only open

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, Thanks. Yes, sometimes you have to trust the developer's judgment about some things like this. I discovered with Montezuma's Revenge there is a lot of good and bad things that can come out of releasing a test build too early to the entire public at large. Yes, I might be able to find a

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Well, the game is certainly playable, but there are many features currently disabled for one reason or another. As I said a couple times already 0.5 is going to be a pretty major upgrade from 0.4 so I am certainly not going to release 0.4 with such a major release on the way. Shadow

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Cory
thatk you tom, I see your points - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients Hi Will, I certainly understand

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, My first two projects STFC and Montezuma's Revenge were open testing and I saw both the good and the bad in doing so. Like you said there is a lot more testers, but there is a lot of expectations and other baggage that comes with it as well. I hope I don't insult anyone by saying

Re: [Audyssey] beta of mysteries of the ancients

2009-01-17 Thread Willem
It is Thomas's decision. Over and over people pushed him into doing things, heck if he had his way this would be a 3d game. Respect his decision. Cory wrote: I back you guys on this one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to