Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt
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Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt
Ah, people not paying attention... Anyway, it's not a commercial game, it's just the engine is. Basically the GMA game engine was apparently made to make exclusively paid games. It's all prepared for that with the registration system and everything. It also has a built in demo mode which, among any other restrictions the developer may add himself, limits you to a single level as Thomas said. So the only way to get it to work would be supershot style, where the game is free, but you'd still have to email the developer with your user code, get a key in return and unlock it. You wouldn't pay, sure, but it'd get annoying quickly, both for you and the developer. On 12/11/2011 10:33 AM, Alfredo_The_Music_maker wrote: Hello, Why is Super Dog not listed as a commercial product? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt
Is supershot free? Just that I wanted that game a few years ago and I couldn't find the price... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of pitermach Sent: 11 December 2011 09:50 To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt Ah, people not paying attention... Anyway, it's not a commercial game, it's just the engine is. Basically the GMA game engine was apparently made to make exclusively paid games. It's all prepared for that with the registration system and everything. It also has a built in demo mode which, among any other restrictions the developer may add himself, limits you to a single level as Thomas said. So the only way to get it to work would be supershot style, where the game is free, but you'd still have to email the developer with your user code, get a key in return and unlock it. You wouldn't pay, sure, but it'd get annoying quickly, both for you and the developer. On 12/11/2011 10:33 AM, Alfredo_The_Music_maker wrote: Hello, Why is Super Dog not listed as a commercial product? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt
Because it's not commercial, the game is free, download and play as much as you like and you won't need to pay Phil anything for it. it's just that as Tom explained the gma engine wasn't really created for making free games. You can make commercial games and demos of one level, but not a free game with features such as multiple levels or score posting. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt Hello, Why is Super Dog not listed as a commercial product? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] De Steno releases windows game.
Hi Hayden, Oh, cool, I didn't know that NVDA could use the sapi5 voices. Thanks for letting me know. Some day I will have to install and check out NVDA. But right now since I wrote my own Email program it reads my Email unattended using the ATT Crystal voice and then throws me into HJ Pad to write my out going Email. And for some reason Jaws works well with HJ Pad. grin And Jaws works fine with the I E version 6 that I am running on my Internet and Email computer. Jaws 4.02 also apparently works well for me on my game development computer in the VB6 IDE as represented by the list of games below. So really other than that Jaws 4.02 doesn't speak automatically for the Atlantic City black jack game, I am very happy with how it does work. The Triple Talk hardware synthesizer can be connected either via USB or serial cable. It has the same speech chip as the Double Talk hardware synthesizer. It is very responsive with Jaws 4.02. And of course it uses almost no system resources as compared to a software synthesizer such as Eloquence. It to me is as responsive as the Accent SA hardware synthesizer used to be with Jaws for dos on a dos computer. But for some reason, maybe because it is a serial synthesizer the Accent SA is not as responsive with Jaws 4.02. Awesome Homer, Baseball, BattleShip, Black Jack, Bop It, Concentration, coupling, Craps, Draw Poker, Football, Golf, Hangman, Homer on a Harley, Life, Mach 1, Mach 1 tts, Master Mind, Monopoly, Pong, Puppy1, Reaction, Roulette, Simon, Skunk, Slot Machine, Snakes and Ladders, Spanker, Star Mule, Triple J Shooter, Trivia game engine, Trucker, Yahtzee Braille reference guide, Brain, Reader, Waver, Batting practice, Golf course maker, monopoly board maker Jim You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] De Steno releases windows game.
Hi Thomas, The dealer having set rules for when to hit or stay was why I was confused when you said The other difference is from what I've seen so far Alantic City Blackjack just seems to have a better A.I. Its nothing specific I can put my fingure on, but the A.I. tends to know when its a good time to hit, stay, or double which I like. I like your Blackjack game too, but I seem to win more than I lose and I've seen the computer player make several bad calls during the course of a game. As I said its not anything specific I can put my finger on, but it just seems to happen more often than Atlantic City Blackjack. BFN Jim I wouldn't even write Email without a spell checker. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt
Hey. Here is a thought about the gma game engine. Why won't the developer of the engine go into it and fix it were a developer can make free games or paid games? Then if Phil wanted to add more levels and stuff to the game he would be able to do that with out charging. Or he could add more to the game and sale it for a couple of bucks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games aboutsuperdogs bone hunt
There is probably a rather simple answer to this question Michael. The gma engine is expensive, furthermore it is not like Bgt, you need some pretty good knolidge of programming to begin with. the engine is therefore a serious tool for serious developers, heck I believe superdog's bone hunt was original a test exercize Phil made for himself, but then decided to turn into a game. For both of these reasons, it would be pretty difficult to advertize the engine as a way to create free games, indeed none of gma's own free titles use the engine. I also suspect such a modification might take David greenwood more work than it would be worth, given the initial expense of the engine to begin with. of course, we don't know what David is working on currently, and he has stated several times that he wants to add some features to the engine like online play, but equally he might be producing the next upgrade for time of conflict, or a completely new game entirely which has nothing to do with the engine, we'll just have to wait and see. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games aboutsuperdogs bone hunt Hey. Here is a thought about the gma game engine. Why won't the developer of the engine go into it and fix it were a developer can make free games or paid games? Then if Phil wanted to add more levels and stuff to the game he would be able to do that with out charging. Or he could add more to the game and sale it for a couple of bucks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] airik 2
hi does anyone know what happened to airik 2 and cloak of divinity? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] airik 2
My guess is he's still working on them, but being typically quiet about it. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] airik 2 hi does anyone know what happened to airik 2 and cloak of divinity? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] airik 2
I think if anything had happened in that sense, we'd have heard about it, and certainly it's not been anything like long enough to really justify worrying at this stage. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] airik 2 My guess is he's still working on them, but being typically quiet about it. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] airik 2 hi does anyone know what happened to airik 2 and cloak of divinity? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games aboutsuperdogs bone hunt
Hi Michael, David Greenwood put a restriction of 1 level for free games because he didn't want someone to record all the sounds in Shades of Doom and create a free game with the same creatures levels and sounds. Based on a recent message from him, it sounds like he is planning to upgrade the game engine from Visual Basic to something more recent. For a few years he was selling the game engine with different deals. I think I was the only one who finished a game with it. There were about twenty people who tried to use the game engine with no success. Phil - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games aboutsuperdogs bone hunt Hey. Here is a thought about the gma game engine. Why won't the developer of the engine go into it and fix it were a developer can make free games or paid games? Then if Phil wanted to add more levels and stuff to the game he would be able to do that with out charging. Or he could add more to the game and sale it for a couple of bucks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
I would agree that a sighted gamer will be more prone to taking risks and his decades of using a mouse should allow him to survive situations that might otherwise make zombie chow out of many others. With practice though, everyone else should be able to match the same skill with the mouse and in fact many of you don't seem to have any trouble using it any more at all! Since your friend is able to play with the graphics enabled, it does give him an advantage. When it comes to identifying the positions of multiple zombies or pieces of loot, he will be able to separate them with the greatest of ease. The same situation might be harder with only audio because when bombarded by lots of sounds at once it is harder to tell where each one is originating from. There is a flip side to the coin though. Because I knew some people would be helped by the game's graphics, I kept the game pretty fairly zoomed in. This means your friend will have to rely on only audio unless the enemies are within a certain range. That range is only 20 by 20 tiles with himself at the center, meaning if a zombie is 11 tiles east of him he can't see it. The same zombie would be no trouble for the rest of the players but it is much harder for him to pay attention to the sounds if he is relying heavily on his sight to play. I find myself in that same situation haha. frankly, one tthing that my friend and I have noticed is that people usually go from safe zone to kai-mart to the bridge, maybe around the west side, but rarely over in the east side, because it is harder to navigate, so he'll make a different circuit, and he has never bought anything from the safe zone. He has every weapon, and none of them have less than a thousand rounds. Granted, he has one slight advantage due to his use of the graphics, and he is quite practiced with a mouse, unlike most of us, but I think more that he's willing to take risks. Still, Jeremy, I'm curious to know if the graphical map matches the audio map in distance available? Also, you can see inside buildings, through walls, and such. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp, connection interrupted in save zone
Thanks Steady, I will keep searching. The fact that this bug only seems to affect 2 people is making it tricky. So far I haven't found any difference between your characters and everyone else that would let me see why the server is treating you differently. You guys didn't by any chance call the server's momma fat or ugly did you? Lol! Hi Jeremy, more on this problem. what i found out is if i don't have ammo of a particular type at the point when i start the game, what i collected on the run will be saved. but say if i already have 12 shortgun shells, any more of that collected this round won't be saved and will be reverted back to that 12 at the end. That explains why armer and weapons collected is there but not ammo because we only collect one of each type and i donated them away. Hope this will give you some clue to this problem. 锦发/Steady Goh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse
Greetings Jeremy et al. I'm looking at getting one of these gaming mice with about six buttons. any chance of making the key config register more mouse buttons? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Ok, escape has *got* to be changed.
Kai, your point is valid, except that to my knowledge, nowhere in the documentation as it exists did it tell me I could simply hit escape again to return to the game. If it's operator error, it's operator error based on lacking a piece of information. And as you and others including me have pointed out, this becomes a great way of cheating death. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 8:08 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ok, escape has *got* to be changed. I personally think this is a case of operator error, not game error. If you hit escape and hit enter on multiplayer, it respawns you... this has been in since day one of multiplayer support. The fact that it respawns you without your last saved equipment has also been there since the safe zone's inception. I do agree with che about a 30-second delay to keep players from cheating out of zombie swarms, but aside from that, if you hit escape and then hit enter to return to the game, how is that Swamp's fault? Just hit escape again. Perhaps the Y/N prompt would be prudent, but that doesn't totally eliminate the possibility; someone else is going to manage it and complain about the same thing, then we'll have to make changes to accomodate that eventuality, too. This is tantamount to saying that you closed Word without saving a document, and are now frustrated that you have to start over from the last time you saved. Kai - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ok, escape has *got* to be changed. Actually I'm also not sure how pressing escape got you out of the game. You should have had to arrow to exit game and press enter. Pressing escape should just bounce you back and forth between the game and the main menu without ever exiting you. Hi there. I've been out of the loop for a while but it was my understanding that escape just pauses the game and brings you back to the main menu and if you want to continue your game, you press escape a second time. It's like a toggle. Perhaps this was only true for single player mode? maybe it should ask are you sure you want to quick and then you'd have to spell out the word exit if you really mean it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp, connection interrupted in save zone
it happens to me as well On 12/11/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: Thanks Steady, I will keep searching. The fact that this bug only seems to affect 2 people is making it tricky. So far I haven't found any difference between your characters and everyone else that would let me see why the server is treating you differently. You guys didn't by any chance call the server's momma fat or ugly did you? Lol! Hi Jeremy, more on this problem. what i found out is if i don't have ammo of a particular type at the point when i start the game, what i collected on the run will be saved. but say if i already have 12 shortgun shells, any more of that collected this round won't be saved and will be reverted back to that 12 at the end. That explains why armer and weapons collected is there but not ammo because we only collect one of each type and i donated them away. Hope this will give you some clue to this problem. 锦发/Steady Goh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
To be honest I would only be interested in purchasing a new version of lw if it was just that a new version. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 11 December 2011 14:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
if it is v3 but to work in new operating systems and no new features why pay? On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Darren Harris wrote: To be honest I would only be interested in purchasing a new version of lw if it was just that a new version. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 11 December 2011 14:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Dark, David posted a list of Lone Wolf version 4 changes quite a wile ago, maybe 3 or 4 years. I can't find the message. Probably left it on one of my older computers. If anyone has it pleas re-post it. Phil - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Sunday's events at Out of Sight
Here are the events scheduled for Sunday, December 11th:: From the Pulpit 11:00 AM eastern Hosted by Lee Location: House of Our Lord Come listen to a live service, which will include, worship, music, preaching, and special singing. Mystery Santa Gift Exchange Unwrapping Party 3:00 PM eastern Hosted by Suzy and Lisa Location: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Join us today as we finally get to open the gifts that were sent to us by our Mystery Santa. Even if you did not participate in this year's gift exchange, please come in and help us celebrate this festive season! Zilch 4:00 PM eastern Hosted by Roger Location: Game Zone Roll the dice and take your chances! Try to snag as many points as possible but you better know when to quit otherwise, you'll lose it all and Zilch out! Drop by for some fun and excitement because you never know who will win until the final dice roll! No software to download and it only takes a few minutes to get the hang of the game. Polished Zilch players and new folk are most welcome! From the Pulpit Evening Service 6:30 PM eastern Hosted by Lee Location: House of Our Lord Come listen to a live service, which will include, worship, music, preaching, and special singing. Suzy's Chain Reaction: 8:00 PM eastern Hosted by Suzy B. Location: Game Zone Remember Chain Reaction, the television game show? Then join in the fun with Suzy and our online version. she will provide you with clues to complete a chain of words and accumulate points for your team. Word Burst 9:15 PM eastern Hosted by Kathy Mertz Location: Game Zone Do you love to play Outburst? Do you love words? Let's put the two together and play Word Burst! Word Burst is the same as Outburst, except that you don't call out items in categories, such as Elvis hits or makes of cars. Instead, the members of each team call out anagrams of the word I will give you. So come in and find the words within a word. Hope to see you there. Have a great day! --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt
Because there is no charge for it. --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt Hello, Why is Super Dog not listed as a commercial product? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogsbone hunt
No, and I don't think it is available anymore. --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogsbone hunt Is supershot free? Just that I wanted that game a few years ago and I couldn't find the price... -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of pitermach Sent: 11 December 2011 09:50 To: birdlover2...@hotmail.com; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games about superdogs bone hunt Ah, people not paying attention... Anyway, it's not a commercial game, it's just the engine is. Basically the GMA game engine was apparently made to make exclusively paid games. It's all prepared for that with the registration system and everything. It also has a built in demo mode which, among any other restrictions the developer may add himself, limits you to a single level as Thomas said. So the only way to get it to work would be supershot style, where the game is free, but you'd still have to email the developer with your user code, get a key in return and unlock it. You wouldn't pay, sure, but it'd get annoying quickly, both for you and the developer. On 12/11/2011 10:33 AM, Alfredo_The_Music_maker wrote: Hello, Why is Super Dog not listed as a commercial product? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4673 - Release Date: 12/10/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi,I Understand the work required, but I don't understand why David would think anyone would purchase the game ifhe's simply rewriting it. I have no current plans to upgrade windows to any nonexistent version that does not allow the use of VB Code, and it sounds to me as if there are to be no changes to actual gameplay. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 10:30 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf if it is v3 but to work in new operating systems and no new features why pay? On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Darren Harris wrote: To be honest I would only be interested in purchasing a new version of lw if it was just that a new version. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 11 December 2011 14:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4074 - Release Date: 12/11/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] suggestions for the GMA engine - Re: suggestion for phil from pcs games aboutsuperdogs bone hunt
Ask David Greenwood. It's his engine. HTH. --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] suggestion for phil from pcs games aboutsuperdogs bone hunt Hey. Here is a thought about the gma game engine. Why won't the developer of the engine go into it and fix it were a developer can make free games or paid games? Then if Phil wanted to add more levels and stuff to the game he would be able to do that with out charging. Or he could add more to the game and sale it for a couple of bucks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Hayden, David is not re-writing Lone Wolf version 3, he is re-writing Lone Wolf version 4, a game you haven't played. I don't have his list of features and it is probably going to change in the future. One item on the list was to make Lone Wolf a multi player game like his Time of Conflict. Phil - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi,I Understand the work required, but I don't understand why David would think anyone would purchase the game ifhe's simply rewriting it. I have no current plans to upgrade windows to any nonexistent version that does not allow the use of VB Code, and it sounds to me as if there are to be no changes to actual gameplay. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 12/11/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote: I would agree that a sighted gamer will be more prone to taking risks and his decades of using a mouse should allow him to survive situations that might otherwise make zombie chow out of many others. With practice though, everyone else should be able to match the same skill with the mouse and in fact many of you don't seem to have any trouble using it any more at all! Since your friend is able to play with the graphics enabled, it does give him an advantage. When it comes to identifying the positions of multiple zombies or pieces of loot, he will be able to separate them with the greatest of ease. The same situation might be harder with only audio because when bombarded by lots of sounds at once it is harder to tell where each one is originating from. There is a flip side to the coin though. Because I knew some people would be helped by the game's graphics, I kept the game pretty fairly zoomed in. This means your friend will have to rely on only audio unless the enemies are within a certain range. That range is only 20 by 20 tiles with himself at the center, meaning if a zombie is 11 tiles east of him he can't see it. The same zombie would be no trouble for the rest of the players but it is much harder for him to pay attention to the sounds if he is relying heavily on his sight to play. I find myself in that same situation haha. frankly, one tthing that my friend and I have noticed is that people usually go from safe zone to kai-mart to the bridge, maybe around the west side, but rarely over in the east side, because it is harder to navigate, so he'll make a different circuit, and he has never bought anything from the safe zone. He has every weapon, and none of them have less than a thousand rounds. Granted, he has one slight advantage due to his use of the graphics, and he is quite practiced with a mouse, unlike most of us, but I think more that he's willing to take risks. Still, Jeremy, I'm curious to know if the graphical map matches the audio map in distance available? Also, you can see inside buildings, through walls, and such. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Another change was to have rear facing torpedo tubes. I'm still looking for the list of changes. Seems like I've got it somewhere, but haven't found it. If I find it, I'll post it. --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Hayden, David is not re-writing Lone Wolf version 3, he is re-writing Lone Wolf version 4, a game you haven't played. I don't have his list of features and it is probably going to change in the future. One item on the list was to make Lone Wolf a multi player game like his Time of Conflict. Phil - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi,I Understand the work required, but I don't understand why David would think anyone would purchase the game ifhe's simply rewriting it. I have no current plans to upgrade windows to any nonexistent version that does not allow the use of VB Code, and it sounds to me as if there are to be no changes to actual gameplay. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] De Steno releases windows game.
Hi. I just checked and NVDA seems to work fine with HJ pad also, just FYI. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.14 portable. On 12/11/2011 5:56 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Hayden, Oh, cool, I didn't know that NVDA could use the sapi5 voices. Thanks for letting me know. Some day I will have to install and check out NVDA. But right now since I wrote my own Email program it reads my Email unattended using the ATT Crystal voice and then throws me into HJ Pad to write my out going Email. And for some reason Jaws works well with HJ Pad. grin And Jaws works fine with the I E version 6 that I am running on my Internet and Email computer. Jaws 4.02 also apparently works well for me on my game development computer in the VB6 IDE as represented by the list of games below. So really other than that Jaws 4.02 doesn't speak automatically for the Atlantic City black jack game, I am very happy with how it does work. The Triple Talk hardware synthesizer can be connected either via USB or serial cable. It has the same speech chip as the Double Talk hardware synthesizer. It is very responsive with Jaws 4.02. And of course it uses almost no system resources as compared to a software synthesizer such as Eloquence. It to me is as responsive as the Accent SA hardware synthesizer used to be with Jaws for dos on a dos computer. But for some reason, maybe because it is a serial synthesizer the Accent SA is not as responsive with Jaws 4.02. Awesome Homer, Baseball, BattleShip, Black Jack, Bop It, Concentration, coupling, Craps, Draw Poker, Football, Golf, Hangman, Homer on a Harley, Life, Mach 1, Mach 1 tts, Master Mind, Monopoly, Pong, Puppy1, Reaction, Roulette, Simon, Skunk, Slot Machine, Snakes and Ladders, Spanker, Star Mule, Triple J Shooter, Trivia game engine, Trucker, Yahtzee Braille reference guide, Brain, Reader, Waver, Batting practice, Golf course maker, monopoly board maker Jim You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] run time error in swamp
Hi list: Can anyone help me with the error I am getting with swamp. I am getting a run time error 35761 and says it timed out. Does anyone have any idea of why I am getting this message? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Changing synth in playroom
Hi. Given the development of ScreenReaderAPI, the stuff you asked about will probably work sometime in the future. I still loyally play RS Games myself when I do those types, so I don't know anything about it really other than that. Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.14 portable. On 12/10/2011 8:53 AM, dark wrote: Hi. I'm trying out the Quentin C playroom, but I see no options to change synth. hal will work fine at reading text and checking buttons, but I'd rather not have to use the dolphin curser. I thought there was a sapi option, but can't find anything to set screen reader output, and certainly sapi isn't working by default. Any advice would be appreciated. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
ah, tht would be good indeed, if lots of people could sub around the ocean. Perhaps either yourself Phil or someone else on the gma list could ask David for an updated changelog, just so that with the recent announcement it's a litle clearer what we will be getting when version 4 of lw rolls around. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Hayden, David is not re-writing Lone Wolf version 3, he is re-writing Lone Wolf version 4, a game you haven't played. I don't have his list of features and it is probably going to change in the future. One item on the list was to make Lone Wolf a multi player game like his Time of Conflict. Phil - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi,I Understand the work required, but I don't understand why David would think anyone would purchase the game ifhe's simply rewriting it. I have no current plans to upgrade windows to any nonexistent version that does not allow the use of VB Code, and it sounds to me as if there are to be no changes to actual gameplay. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS - Re: De Steno releases windows game.
Say you have GAWS. Game Accessible With Speech. Yeah, bunch of CRap Charles. Instead of teling you the truth, they have no plans or money for such projects. They want you to think, you don't kow what your talking about. And its not a law to use Jaws for games. What if your job is reviewing games. And here I am with over 1000 lines of code for my Jaws scripts for my sport games. Guess, I just detroy them all. Shoot pal, you can throw a string of things that Jaws does internally, that is not related to work and the work place. ITunes, Bible and etc... Certainly in the beginning of Jaws, was knows as a tool for the blind at the work place, but what there is comeing to be nearly 30 years ago. Smiles, you can tell lthem for me, if they want to do something for the blind community. Stop, changing system settings every time we have to updates to Windows. You tell them that, LOL. Crash - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:30 PM Subject: [Audyssey] JAWS - Re: De Steno releases windows game. I asked about the feasibility of Freedom Scientific trying to get the free games that come as a part of Windows to work with JAWS, or, rather, the other way around. A tech support rep pointed out to, immediately, that I have to realize that JAWS is an acronym of Job?? Access With Speech. I pointed out that even employed people use their computers for gaming, and the Windows games are pretty much on just every machine whether for work or play, and they should be made accessible. They wholeheartedly disagreed with me. --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] De Steno releases windows game. Hi Dark, Sure. I definitely do not disagree with you. Dolphin's payment plan certainly is more fair. So is GW Micro's. However, as Freedom Scientific is largely funded here in the USA through government run state agencies they really do not have any incentive to change their payment plan or be more competitive because they have government funding. Someone like GW Micro who doesn't necessarily get a large percentage of sales through government agencies had to find ways to make their product more affordable so they started their lease to own payment plan as well as a traditional SMA payment plan for upgrades. As a result someone on SSI or SSDI is actually better off investing in a GW Micro product because its affordable and the company doesn't expect you to drop $900 at a drop of a hat. Its just not realistic given the fact over 80% of all blind Americans are unemployed and are living in section 508 government housing. Plus ever since I began working with Henter-Joice/Freedom Scientific products they always struck me strictly as a stuffy white collar type of company. It was clear from the beginning Jaws, Job Access With Speech, was intended to be for business professionals and large corperations. There aim or goal was not to target the average home user but schools, government agencies, large businesses, or blind computer users who were gainfully employed in some capacity. It wasn't intended to be for the average home user, but obviously that's what ended up happening because BSVI, BVR, DBS, and other state agencies purchased Jaws, trained their clients, and then could not successfully find them gainful employment Thus resulting in several VI users who have state funded computers with Jaws, Openbook, etc but no decent paying jobs to keep the software up to date. Cheers! On 12/8/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. I suppose that's reasonable from a busienss perspective, but stil I much prefer dolphin's system on this. no extra upgrades, no pro or standard, you want it, you pay for it! In fact the only real deal they have is the ability to pay for the next version upgrade in advance and get cash off. beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] The nightjar.
Hey, Does anyone know when the nightjar will be release in the U.S.? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV
So, I've ben playing TDVlately, and I got to the boss last week, and I'm still stuck on it. I like a challenge, but this is ridiculous. The number of missiles that Brutus has is ridiculous-how many missiles can possibly fit on the wings of an aircraft that size? Then, when the exhaustion vent opens, and you turn around to fire, you ust get nailed with about ten missilesat once,. And now, apparently, he can fire cruise missiles (and always does) in his first incarnation. Has anybody beathen this thing, and is so, how? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
While I'm not usually the person who will jump to Microsoft's defense, I don't think it's really fair to say they were too lazy to bother adding VB compatibility. After all, Windows 8 will still run games written in VB, but I'm guessing it will require the same tweaks that Vista and 7 do, namely registering the DirectX 8 libraries. While MS will be breaking VB support partly to force people to remove .NET, another In 1998, most people were using Windows 9X, which is an entirely different OS architecture than even Windows XP. The older code or components get, the more difficult it is to keep them working as a product evolves, and the more potential problems it can cause. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least two major Windows security problems that were the result of code that had been in Windows for several decades, most likely to maintain backward-compatibility. While I agree that MS breaking VB compatibility is going to cause huge problems in the audio games community, there are certainly technical reasons why MS is doing it beyond laziness and forcing people to upgrade. On 12/11/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse
For the next update I plan to have the game support the extra buttons of gaming mice. Greetings Jeremy et al. I'm looking at getting one of these gaming mice with about six buttons. any chance of making the key config register more mouse buttons? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] airik 2
damn, i need to find my airic 5 link, as i left it there for future updating but completely forgot. let the digging begin... anyways, i'm actually glad he's gone past his deadline, as for one thing i never got near finnishing the first game as of yet and for another, it suggests he's not just trying to finnish the games as quick as possible. On 12/11/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I think if anything had happened in that sense, we'd have heard about it, and certainly it's not been anything like long enough to really justify worrying at this stage. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] airik 2 My guess is he's still working on them, but being typically quiet about it. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:48 AM Subject: [Audyssey] airik 2 hi does anyone know what happened to airik 2 and cloak of divinity? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse
does anyone use a microsoft sidewinder gamepad? would it work on swamp? i have on eo fthose devices and its a USB one - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse For the next update I plan to have the game support the extra buttons of gaming mice. Greetings Jeremy et al. I'm looking at getting one of these gaming mice with about six buttons. any chance of making the key config register more mouse buttons? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] run time error in swamp
It sounds like your connection isn't able to reach the server. Making sure you have an active internet connection would be my first tip. The other possibility is if your connection is dropping during play. Hi list: Can anyone help me with the error I am getting with swamp. I am getting a run time error 35761 and says it timed out. Does anyone have any idea of why I am getting this message? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse
I don't have one so I can't be sure, but odds are it wouldn't work. I didn't specifically put in any code to support it. does anyone use a microsoft sidewinder gamepad? would it work on swamp? i have on eo fthose devices and its a USB one --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Searching for a certain type of game
Hi list, I'm looking for a certain type of game. I don't really know a name for those games, except that they are a kind of puzzlegames. I'll give you two examples instead so that you know what I'm looking for. In the game Wii party, there is a game mode called garden gridlock. You get a playing field with different routes and obstacles and the objective is to place one or more Miis at the right starting point so that they successfully complete the course when you are finished and press start. On the old Amiga computer there was a game with a tomato that you had to get into a goal by placing items like fens and jumping pads around the level and then launching the tomato to see if it reaches the goal without getting squished or something. So, I'm looking for accessible games like these in my examples, where you prepare a course or level before starting the action to see if you did it right. Jeremy's towers of war is one such game and I have and play that already. Does anyone know about other such games which are accessible? I like the thinking aspect in this type of games and that you can take your time to prepare before the action starts. Btw, I also have an Iphone, so the games you might suggest also can be games for Ios. Thanks in advance for making any suggestions, and I hope I explained well enough what I'm looking for. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Searching for a certain type of game
Are you looking for a type of game like having to set dominos close enough to one another, designing your own pattern, so that by tipping the first one, they all fall along the desired path, traveling up or down staircases, along roads, and so forth until they have all fallen? Sort of a chain reaction game in which you must design the path along which the action takes place to completion? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Searching for a certain type of game Hi list, I'm looking for a certain type of game. I don't really know a name for those games, except that they are a kind of puzzlegames. I'll give you two examples instead so that you know what I'm looking for. In the game Wii party, there is a game mode called garden gridlock. You get a playing field with different routes and obstacles and the objective is to place one or more Miis at the right starting point so that they successfully complete the course when you are finished and press start. On the old Amiga computer there was a game with a tomato that you had to get into a goal by placing items like fens and jumping pads around the level and then launching the tomato to see if it reaches the goal without getting squished or something. So, I'm looking for accessible games like these in my examples, where you prepare a course or level before starting the action to see if you did it right. Jeremy's towers of war is one such game and I have and play that already. Does anyone know about other such games which are accessible? I like the thinking aspect in this type of games and that you can take your time to prepare before the action starts. Btw, I also have an Iphone, so the games you might suggest also can be games for Ios. Thanks in advance for making any suggestions, and I hope I explained well enough what I'm looking for. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse
Assuming you cna program the Sidewinder to emulate mouse movements, then it probably could. I've got a gamepad myself, and do plan to configure it to function as a mouse emulator. I'll report on the results, as soon as I've finished the DAISY conversion of the manual. kai - Original Message - From: joseph weakland josephweakl...@att.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse does anyone use a microsoft sidewinder gamepad? would it work on swamp? i have on eo fthose devices and its a USB one - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse For the next update I plan to have the game support the extra buttons of gaming mice. Greetings Jeremy et al. I'm looking at getting one of these gaming mice with about six buttons. any chance of making the key config register more mouse buttons? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Searching for a certain type of game
Hi Charles, You wrote: Are you looking for a type of game like having to set dominos close enough to one another, designing your own pattern, so that by tipping the first one, they all fall along the desired path, traveling up or down staircases, along roads, and so forth until they have all fallen? Sort of a chain reaction game in which you must design the path along which the action takes place to completion? ---yes, that is exactly the idea which I mean, you explained that a lot better than me. lol. But yes, that's the kind of thing I'm looking for. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
yes, the flies buzzing can be a serious problem when your being surrounded. might i suggest a key to mute or at least significantly decrease the volume of the flies. control f perhaps. so you have too many flies buzzing around to make out what is going on, you hit control f, clear out the greenies, control f to turn flies back on, grab your loot and move along, nothing to see here... On 12/11/2011 3:30 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
Well my mouse is sluggish, even at high setting, If I set sensitivity on my pc to full I get a bit more responce but not much. I have a 50 buck logitech mouse with 8 buttons I will be getting for christmas so we will see. At 06:23 a.m. 11/12/2011 -0800, you wrote: I would agree that a sighted gamer will be more prone to taking risks and his decades of using a mouse should allow him to survive situations that might otherwise make zombie chow out of many others. With practice though, everyone else should be able to match the same skill with the mouse and in fact many of you don't seem to have any trouble using it any more at all! Since your friend is able to play with the graphics enabled, it does give him an advantage. When it comes to identifying the positions of multiple zombies or pieces of loot, he will be able to separate them with the greatest of ease. The same situation might be harder with only audio because when bombarded by lots of sounds at once it is harder to tell where each one is originating from. There is a flip side to the coin though. Because I knew some people would be helped by the game's graphics, I kept the game pretty fairly zoomed in. This means your friend will have to rely on only audio unless the enemies are within a certain range. That range is only 20 by 20 tiles with himself at the center, meaning if a zombie is 11 tiles east of him he can't see it. The same zombie would be no trouble for the rest of the players but it is much harder for him to pay attention to the sounds if he is relying heavily on his sight to play. I find myself in that same situation haha. frankly, one tthing that my friend and I have noticed is that people usually go from safe zone to kai-mart to the bridge, maybe around the west side, but rarely over in the east side, because it is harder to navigate, so he'll make a different circuit, and he has never bought anything from the safe zone. He has every weapon, and none of them have less than a thousand rounds. Granted, he has one slight advantage due to his use of the graphics, and he is quite practiced with a mouse, unlike most of us, but I think more that he's willing to take risks. Still, Jeremy, I'm curious to know if the graphical map matches the audio map in distance available? Also, you can see inside buildings, through walls, and such. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Same, I payed good cash for lw, I don't just buy it if all it is is able to run on 7 or 8 or whatever next windows is. It would have to be substantial. Maybe if I could get the latest game packs of gtc, lw and sod with new versions I may concider it. At 04:23 p.m. 11/12/2011 +, you wrote: To be honest I would only be interested in purchasing a new version of lw if it was just that a new version. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 11 December 2011 14:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
yeah we will have games that are like jaws, pro to use pro versions of an os, yuck. At 04:30 p.m. 11/12/2011 +, you wrote: if it is v3 but to work in new operating systems and no new features why pay? On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Darren Harris wrote: To be honest I would only be interested in purchasing a new version of lw if it was just that a new version. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: 11 December 2011 14:59 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
true, 16 bit stuff is being totally broken in 64 bit versions of windows, Though 16 bit support without a real dos emulater is not that nice anyway right now. Oh well, I guess we will have to play our old games with dosemu or other dos emulator in linux then. Or an old system which I plan to get. At 03:20 p.m. 11/12/2011 -0330, you wrote: While I'm not usually the person who will jump to Microsoft's defense, I don't think it's really fair to say they were too lazy to bother adding VB compatibility. After all, Windows 8 will still run games written in VB, but I'm guessing it will require the same tweaks that Vista and 7 do, namely registering the DirectX 8 libraries. While MS will be breaking VB support partly to force people to remove .NET, another In 1998, most people were using Windows 9X, which is an entirely different OS architecture than even Windows XP. The older code or components get, the more difficult it is to keep them working as a product evolves, and the more potential problems it can cause. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least two major Windows security problems that were the result of code that had been in Windows for several decades, most likely to maintain backward-compatibility. While I agree that MS breaking VB compatibility is going to cause huge problems in the audio games community, there are certainly technical reasons why MS is doing it beyond laziness and forcing people to upgrade. On 12/11/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: Gaming Mouse
thats good aprone I will be getting the gaming mouse at christmas. At 11:25 a.m. 11/12/2011 -0800, you wrote: For the next update I plan to have the game support the extra buttons of gaming mice. Greetings Jeremy et al. I'm looking at getting one of these gaming mice with about six buttons. any chance of making the key config register more mouse buttons? Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Searching for a certain type of game
Hi Sarah. the only other game besides towers of war that has that sort of puzle element is Quentin's greenies escape. That works on a similar principle to the old game lemings. You have lots of little creatures to get from the entrance to the exit of each stage. The problem is the creatures will walk off cliffs or into traps so you need to assign them rolls to get them through, like diggers to dig through walls or blockers to block others from passing. I'm not sure how complete the game is but you can download it on http://vrac.quentinc.net/audiogames/greenies-en.zip actually with the well established audio map review techniques of games like time of conflict, there could be more of this sort of game in audio I think. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Searching for a certain type of game Hi list, I'm looking for a certain type of game. I don't really know a name for those games, except that they are a kind of puzzlegames. I'll give you two examples instead so that you know what I'm looking for. In the game Wii party, there is a game mode called garden gridlock. You get a playing field with different routes and obstacles and the objective is to place one or more Miis at the right starting point so that they successfully complete the course when you are finished and press start. On the old Amiga computer there was a game with a tomato that you had to get into a goal by placing items like fens and jumping pads around the level and then launching the tomato to see if it reaches the goal without getting squished or something. So, I'm looking for accessible games like these in my examples, where you prepare a course or level before starting the action to see if you did it right. Jeremy's towers of war is one such game and I have and play that already. Does anyone know about other such games which are accessible? I like the thinking aspect in this type of games and that you can take your time to prepare before the action starts. Btw, I also have an Iphone, so the games you might suggest also can be games for Ios. Thanks in advance for making any suggestions, and I hope I explained well enough what I'm looking for. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
well dark ms has never listened to the customer, well if they do not really much. Upgrading is usually better, unless there is a problem. Old hardware, or being disabled no matter what it is. It just makes everyone have to upgrade. Until nvda came along we had to pay for reader upgrades and some of us still from time to time have to. I have sn 12 but I don't need it. I have jaws but unless someone pays for that I won't need it. I have upgraded my hardware, but still, I have issues with all the new interfaces. Its not that they are new, its just that you are chucked in a room with a bunch of dalecs and expect to get along. Its quite annoying. Ms also likes to change the trends all the time without any real warning. I am getting used to the win7 interace and even like bits of office and ie9, I bet that they will change again. It was only because of their vista screwup that xp has lasted this long and maybe even vb compatability. THey are hoping people have switched over all of them. But why upgrade if things are stable. And unless my situation changes I will be staying with old hardware running xp. At 10:04 p.m. 11/12/2011 +, you wrote: Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
hi dark, its less to do with the fact that microsoft are to lazy to, but more that times have moved on, and we now have ways of doing things in a far more efitiant ways for newer computers. and as has been pointed out by people before, windows is bloated, .. well, thats come from trying to support all the old ways of doing things. so they are saying, sertain older ways of doing things will be fased out, in order to make room for the new, and especially with the newer processors and ram coming out, the old ways just do not suit anymore. anyways, yes, i would have thought it to be a better thing to create a totally new game, rather then recode an old one. but there you go. lol. perhaps make a modern day one? i think that could be cool, a modern day submarine game. mmm. dallas On 12/12/2011 01:46, dark wrote: Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV
yes, its possible to beet him. however, i must agree on one point, no aircraft can carry that many missiles. thats impossible. dallas On 12/12/2011 04:32, Hayden Presley wrote: So, I've ben playing TDVlately, and I got to the boss last week, and I'm still stuck on it. I like a challenge, but this is ridiculous. The number of missiles that Brutus has is ridiculous-how many missiles can possibly fit on the wings of an aircraft that size? Then, when the exhaustion vent opens, and you turn around to fire, you ust get nailed with about ten missilesat once,. And now, apparently, he can fire cruise missiles (and always does) in his first incarnation. Has anybody beathen this thing, and is so, how? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
well said. and yes, they have been known to drop backwards compatibility due to securety as well. and besides, if they support everything, windows is going to end up huge! not that it isn't already. lol dallas ' On 12/12/2011 04:50, Alex Kenny wrote: While I'm not usually the person who will jump to Microsoft's defense, I don't think it's really fair to say they were too lazy to bother adding VB compatibility. After all, Windows 8 will still run games written in VB, but I'm guessing it will require the same tweaks that Vista and 7 do, namely registering the DirectX 8 libraries. While MS will be breaking VB support partly to force people to remove .NET, another In 1998, most people were using Windows 9X, which is an entirely different OS architecture than even Windows XP. The older code or components get, the more difficult it is to keep them working as a product evolves, and the more potential problems it can cause. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least two major Windows security problems that were the result of code that had been in Windows for several decades, most likely to maintain backward-compatibility. While I agree that MS breaking VB compatibility is going to cause huge problems in the audio games community, there are certainly technical reasons why MS is doing it beyond laziness and forcing people to upgrade. On 12/11/11, darkd...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasakp...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion listgamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
[Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
This issue is being addressed. There are now multiple fly sounds, eliminating the probability of the same sound being played at multiple sources. Kai - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi, Actually, Microsoft goes to great lengths to ensure backward-compatibility, much more than many other tech companies. If Microsoft behaved like Apple, i can garuntee that you would not be able to run VB games on modern machines, because MS would have removed support from their OS as soon as they decided to stop supporting it. Take the Windows API, for example. It's been around since 1985, and in order to ensure compatibility, MS just continued to add functionality and hacks. Because of this, the API has become extremely bloated with some redundant functions and annoying limitations. In Windows 8, they've created a whole new API, but are still supporting the old Windows API, despite the fact that it probably adds incredible bloat and increases the complexity of the OS. Because of this, I have to disagree with you that MS doesn't care about backward-compatibility. They have many, many faults, but that's not one of them. There comes a time when backward-compatibility must be broken to allow for improvement. We had to say goodbye to the DOS command prompt, Windows 9X and 16-bit software. We will probably be saying goodbye to VB support as well. Of course, if Windows 8 is the last to support VB, you'll still have lots of time to upgrade, as Microsoft supports its operating systems for quite a while. On 12/11/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf
Amen to that. I am an xp fan and I love it. I think it's the best os they have come out with . -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6702 (20111211) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6702 (20111211) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV
Hi, Great...can you recommend any strategy to do it? Apparently what I used to do no longer works. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV yes, its possible to beet him. however, i must agree on one point, no aircraft can carry that many missiles. thats impossible. dallas On 12/12/2011 04:32, Hayden Presley wrote: So, I've ben playing TDVlately, and I got to the boss last week, and I'm still stuck on it. I like a challenge, but this is ridiculous. The number of missiles that Brutus has is ridiculous-how many missiles can possibly fit on the wings of an aircraft that size? Then, when the exhaustion vent opens, and you turn around to fire, you ust get nailed with about ten missilesat once,. And now, apparently, he can fire cruise missiles (and always does) in his first incarnation. Has anybody beathen this thing, and is so, how? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4074 - Release Date: 12/11/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi, One thing that gets me is how people react to the vista start menu. I don't understand why so many people seem to just like the old menu system. The search box means all you have to do is type in what you want to find, then arrow to it, instead of scrolling through a programs menu that is not organized alphabetically, but chronologically, which is one reason I hate the older windows start menu. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf hi dark, its less to do with the fact that microsoft are to lazy to, but more that times have moved on, and we now have ways of doing things in a far more efitiant ways for newer computers. and as has been pointed out by people before, windows is bloated, .. well, thats come from trying to support all the old ways of doing things. so they are saying, sertain older ways of doing things will be fased out, in order to make room for the new, and especially with the newer processors and ram coming out, the old ways just do not suit anymore. anyways, yes, i would have thought it to be a better thing to create a totally new game, rather then recode an old one. but there you go. lol. perhaps make a modern day one? i think that could be cool, a modern day submarine game. mmm. dallas On 12/12/2011 01:46, dark wrote: Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Folks, I'm pasting a message from David about his games. - Original Message - From: GMAGames - David Greenwood davidgreenw...@rogers.com Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: [GMAGamesTalk] Re: Any plans for an updated Lone Wolf? Hi all, After reviewing my schedule and looking at what i have done, partially done, and what needs updates, I have decided to rewrite LoneWolf 4 from scratch. It is currently written in VB6 and it is getting the the point where it is a matter of just a couple of years before programs written in this language may not be supported. Matter of fact, the development environment no longer works in Windows 7, but if developed in Vista say, it will still run in Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Microsoft has said that it probably won't thereafter. What does this mean to you? Firstly, all the previous work on LW will be discarded, including original LW code and any changes I've made so far towards LW4 in VB6. This will extend the schedule out quite a bit. Next, due to the amount of work, LW4 will need to be purchased as a new game. If there is a credit for previous owners of the license, it would be small. In any event, LW3 will continue to be supported and key replacements will continue to be generated for people who do not upgrade. Regards, David Greenwood, davidgreenw...@gmagames.com http://www.GMAGames.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV
That's the beauty of fiction I suppose. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV yes, its possible to beet him. however, i must agree on one point, no aircraft can carry that many missiles. thats impossible. dallas On 12/12/2011 04:32, Hayden Presley wrote: So, I've ben playing TDVlately, and I got to the boss last week, and I'm still stuck on it. I like a challenge, but this is ridiculous. The number of missiles that Brutus has is ridiculous-how many missiles can possibly fit on the wings of an aircraft that size? Then, when the exhaustion vent opens, and you turn around to fire, you ust get nailed with about ten missilesat once,. And now, apparently, he can fire cruise missiles (and always does) in his first incarnation. Has anybody beathen this thing, and is so, how? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf
One word. Money. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updatedLoneWolf
I can agree with that. In fact I probably would have downgraded whenI got my current laptop if I'd had an XP CD. Then again I would have had to contend with the Airik XP bug had I done that. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updatedLoneWolf Amen to that. I am an xp fan and I love it. I think it's the best os they have come out with . -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6702 (20111211) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6702 (20111211) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
While money is one motivating factor, one reason you can't just stop once you get a system that works is that, with something as complex as an operating system and the fallibility of programmers, it's almost impossible to get a system that does exactly what you want. Any operating system meant for modern desktop users has millions of lines of code, and there's bound to be quite a few mistakes. Another reason is that hardware and technology evolve. New hardware is created, better security solutions are created, and better ways of doing things in general. If MS had decided, after releasing Windows 98 that it was perfect and they were done, Windows would have died to be replaced by OS x or Linux, which support WiFi, Bluetooth and USB, which are just a few technologies that have developed since then. As for system resources, it is true that the jump between Windows XP and Vista was a hard one, because Vista requires much more CPU resources and emory. It's important to note though that Windows 7's requirements are identical to Vista, and Windows 8 will actually have lower requirements. I'm curious about the aversion to new technology that seems to be common in the blindness community. It's true that many in this community are on fixed incomes and can't always afford to upgrade, there seems to be an aversion to having to learn any new software interfaces, even when those new interfaces are perfectly accessible and come with an upgrade that they've purchased. This seems to occur even within assistive technology companies, which I suspect have a large responsibility for this. Older versions of JAWS used to recommend disabling Windows XP's features, and I remember listening to a Serotek podcast in which the developers of System Access were fawning over a product that disabled features in Windows 7. This is a bit puzzling to me, as all of those features were perfectly accessible. On 12/11/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
When is it the right time to stop innovating? When can you be certain that more processing power will never be necessary? When will you have found everything that everyone needs to do, and when will they be able to do it well enough? The thing about technological advances is that each one not only makes things possible that weren't, but makes things possible that no one could imagine before the advance took place. Sure, computers work well enough, if you discount all the myriad times when they don't. I can do everything I need to do currently (except music editing/production) on my two-year-old netbook running Windows XP. I haven't upgraded to Windows 7 because I haven't had a compelling use case to do so. But it would I think be presumptuous of me to say that the evolution of computers and operating systems has gone far enough and can't we please just be happy with what we have? Look at the cell phone world. Even two years ago, the idea of full accessibility to a cell phone was still a fractured dream for blind users. IOS began changing that thought, but now there's competition and different ways of doing things, and the dream of a voice-powered, pseudo-intelligent personal assistant is at least on the horizon, with early prototypes out in the world. The revolutions in access these technologies promise weren't imaginable for most people when we had dumb phones that simply made calls and maybe kept a calendar and task list. We are within a few years of the mass obsolescence of a lot of specialized access technology, with the accompanying blindness tax that will make access to many things available to people who can't afford to drop a thousand dollars on a piece of specialized software, or $7,000 for a notetaker. So be not over hasty to say that we've gone as far as we need to. The fact that you, or I may not have a use case for updating a particular item now doesn't mean that at some point a new set of possibilities may not occur that would make such a use case compelling. Sorry for this near rant, but I see this kind of thinking in all sorts of arenas and not just among disabled folk. I think it's important that we embrace advances in technology when it is prudent to do so and not be afraid of change. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
An excellent and simple solution. I'm eager for the next update. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. This issue is being addressed. There are now multiple fly sounds, eliminating the probability of the same sound being played at multiple sources. Kai - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Dark, I accept that there is truth in what you say, but given that OS upgrades often address a myriad of things from security concerns to new technology, I think yours is perhaps an unfair attribution of motive. And I do have to be the meanie-head and ask, yes, and where is Amiga now? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Phil, Interesting. This sounds good though as we will get a fresh new rewrite of the program, and it looks like David Greenwood is looking at Windows 8 compatibility and beyond. This is all to the good for us, and I'm sure is well worth an upgrade fee. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Hayden, I happen to agree with you that Vista and Windows 7's start menu is superior to the XP start menu, but I think the resistance to it is simply some people don't want to change. Its the same old story, the more things change the more people stay the same. I think its safe enough to say that there is always a certain amount of people who don't want to learn new things, don't want to do things differently than they've done them for the last x number of years, and are just set in their ways. That is their choice of course, but such people will find themselves seriously behind the mainstream when their old computer finally breaks down and they have to upgrade. Such people will not be prepared for the switch because it gives them no time to get use to the changes where someone like me upgrades from version to version getting use to the changes as they are introduced rather than all at once. Cheers! On 12/11/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, One thing that gets me is how people react to the vista start menu. I don't understand why so many people seem to just like the old menu system. The search box means all you have to do is type in what you want to find, then arrow to it, instead of scrolling through a programs menu that is not organized alphabetically, but chronologically, which is one reason I hate the older windows start menu. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
regarding the flies sounds, depending on how this is implemented, it may or may not fix the issue. what is happening isn't a result of the same sound being played in multiple places, its the fact that the flies sound is continuous and loud when your near it, making it hard to hear to target the baddies. if the sounds are re designed, it could address that problem, depending on how its done, but I maintain having a key to drop the volume is quick and easy programming wise, and won't require a new set of sounds to be made. Later che On 12/11/2011 6:22 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: An excellent and simple solution. I'm eager for the next update. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. This issue is being addressed. There are now multiple fly sounds, eliminating the probability of the same sound being played at multiple sources. Kai - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlettthemusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list'gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
Frankly, both options together make things tremendous. Have a key to activate and deactivate loot scanning, as it were, and different flies sounds, and nobody can possibly take issue. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 12/11/11, Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com wrote: regarding the flies sounds, depending on how this is implemented, it may or may not fix the issue. what is happening isn't a result of the same sound being played in multiple places, its the fact that the flies sound is continuous and loud when your near it, making it hard to hear to target the baddies. if the sounds are re designed, it could address that problem, depending on how its done, but I maintain having a key to drop the volume is quick and easy programming wise, and won't require a new set of sounds to be made. Later che On 12/11/2011 6:22 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote: An excellent and simple solution. I'm eager for the next update. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. This issue is being addressed. There are now multiple fly sounds, eliminating the probability of the same sound being played at multiple sources. Kai - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlettthemusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list'gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
yep, and its exactly because of the backwards compatibility that we all love windows. you can run anything, on nearly anything. yes, thats changing, but it has to, at some point. dallas On 12/12/2011 08:44, Alex Kenny wrote: Hi, Actually, Microsoft goes to great lengths to ensure backward-compatibility, much more than many other tech companies. If Microsoft behaved like Apple, i can garuntee that you would not be able to run VB games on modern machines, because MS would have removed support from their OS as soon as they decided to stop supporting it. Take the Windows API, for example. It's been around since 1985, and in order to ensure compatibility, MS just continued to add functionality and hacks. Because of this, the API has become extremely bloated with some redundant functions and annoying limitations. In Windows 8, they've created a whole new API, but are still supporting the old Windows API, despite the fact that it probably adds incredible bloat and increases the complexity of the OS. Because of this, I have to disagree with you that MS doesn't care about backward-compatibility. They have many, many faults, but that's not one of them. There comes a time when backward-compatibility must be broken to allow for improvement. We had to say goodbye to the DOS command prompt, Windows 9X and 16-bit software. We will probably be saying goodbye to VB support as well. Of course, if Windows 8 is the last to support VB, you'll still have lots of time to upgrade, as Microsoft supports its operating systems for quite a while. On 12/11/11, darkd...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV
lol. you just have to be dam fast, and dam presice. there really isn't a method to it. i have only beet him once. dallas On 12/12/2011 09:11, Hayden Presley wrote: Hi, Great...can you recommend any strategy to do it? Apparently what I used to do no longer works. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Extremely Frustrated with TDV yes, its possible to beet him. however, i must agree on one point, no aircraft can carry that many missiles. thats impossible. dallas On 12/12/2011 04:32, Hayden Presley wrote: So, I've ben playing TDVlately, and I got to the boss last week, and I'm still stuck on it. I like a challenge, but this is ridiculous. The number of missiles that Brutus has is ridiculous-how many missiles can possibly fit on the wings of an aircraft that size? Then, when the exhaustion vent opens, and you turn around to fire, you ust get nailed with about ten missilesat once,. And now, apparently, he can fire cruise missiles (and always does) in his first incarnation. Has anybody beathen this thing, and is so, how? Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1415 / Virus Database: 2102/4074 - Release Date: 12/11/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
hi chris. well put. and i for one, love to see what games we will be able to make with the newer operating systems and hardware in time to come! its going to be a blast! dallas On 12/12/2011 10:20, Christopher Bartlett wrote: When is it the right time to stop innovating? When can you be certain that more processing power will never be necessary? When will you have found everything that everyone needs to do, and when will they be able to do it well enough? The thing about technological advances is that each one not only makes things possible that weren't, but makes things possible that no one could imagine before the advance took place. Sure, computers work well enough, if you discount all the myriad times when they don't. I can do everything I need to do currently (except music editing/production) on my two-year-old netbook running Windows XP. I haven't upgraded to Windows 7 because I haven't had a compelling use case to do so. But it would I think be presumptuous of me to say that the evolution of computers and operating systems has gone far enough and can't we please just be happy with what we have? Look at the cell phone world. Even two years ago, the idea of full accessibility to a cell phone was still a fractured dream for blind users. IOS began changing that thought, but now there's competition and different ways of doing things, and the dream of a voice-powered, pseudo-intelligent personal assistant is at least on the horizon, with early prototypes out in the world. The revolutions in access these technologies promise weren't imaginable for most people when we had dumb phones that simply made calls and maybe kept a calendar and task list. We are within a few years of the mass obsolescence of a lot of specialized access technology, with the accompanying blindness tax that will make access to many things available to people who can't afford to drop a thousand dollars on a piece of specialized software, or $7,000 for a notetaker. So be not over hasty to say that we've gone as far as we need to. The fact that you, or I may not have a use case for updating a particular item now doesn't mean that at some point a new set of possibilities may not occur that would make such a use case compelling. Sorry for this near rant, but I see this kind of thinking in all sorts of arenas and not just among disabled folk. I think it's important that we embrace advances in technology when it is prudent to do so and not be afraid of change. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 5:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: darkd...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion listgamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
On that note, it'd be kinda nice to know what's there before we pick it up- so if we don't need the item, we can alert friends to it --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
You can blame the game nuts for that. The sighted like using powerfull games which need that power. As for upgrades all stuff needs to be upgraded, storage hardware, security etc. At 04:32 p.m. 11/12/2011 -0600, you wrote: Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
That's a second from me, just move away from them if they're to noisy for you. - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:30:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf
On the subject of processor, I often have my machine's processor at 98 or 99% free, and ram is usually 90% or so free. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:32:17 -0600 Subject: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated LoneWolf Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf Hi Alex. As I said I'm not annoyed that Microsoft update their os, they have to, even if we don't like some of their decisions on interfaces etc. it just seems though that they don't give a dam about running older programs, games or anything else, they just claime newer = better it seems without actually considdering what people want their computers for, namely to run programs. comador didn't do this with their os or machines, even with compltely new hardware, going from amigar 500 to 1200. Even the big console developers are realizing that people like running their old games, hence the wii virtual consoles, virtual arcade and other such software versions of older games stil available on modern machines. Microsoft though just seem to expect everyone to update, buy their products and cope, because newer is always better in their opinion. for myself, if i could be certain all my games and other applications would work under windows 7, I'd be much less wary about updating. I just see this as a case of not listening to the customer and doing their own dam thing and expecting everyone to cope simply because they are a big fat company who just care about the prophit. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
just move towards it and take whatever is in there. the sound will stop and you have more ammo or other items. if it is something you don't need, donate them and get reputation points. If you move away from the sound, i will thank you and happily go in there and help myself. but don't complain that there isn't enough ammo or health kit anymore. 锦发/Steady Goh - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. That's a second from me, just move away from them if they're to noisy for you. - Original Message - From: Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:30:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. If you decreased the fly sound, you'd trade easier localization for less range in hearing the loot sound. I personally like the way it is, even with the disorienting effect of the flies as they are. It's a challenge to situational awareness, to keep track of potential enemies while finding the individual items. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 2:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions. I'll pass this suggestion along to Kai. As it's a sound issue, that is his department. :) With the graphics I knew that no matter what the sighted players would have an advantage in some ways, so I tried to restrict them in others. So rather than making their situation easier it just makes it different. In close range they will have an easier time, but at long range the blind users do. Oh. It's good to know the range. That makes me feel a lot better. Also, this is the first game that my friend and I agree gives pretty much the same info to the sighted and blind player. I must as a question, or perhaps suggest a change. He and I both agree that, when you're in a huge loot-grabbing situation, the overwhelming number of the flies makes it very, very difficult to hear. Now, I understand that this might be a point of game balance. However, I wonder if the sound could be changed from an epic, Amityville Horror style swarm of flies to a few flies buzzing around. When you get any more than three loot spawns in the same spot, it sounds like you're a beekeeper with them buzzing inside your ears as well as out. I like the idea of flies, though, because it's a lot more of an environmental emersion than, say, beep, beep, oh loot! Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] test, having trouble contacting this list and it's owners
Sorry about the test messege. Having trouble contacting anything to do with this listserv. Hopefully, this gets through. Thanks and once again, sorry. Keith --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
There might be some truth in that, and as a community that wants ever more complex games ourselves, I can't blame anybody in that interchange. Better processing power = more potential for more immersive audio environments. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:21 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf You can blame the game nuts for that. The sighted like using powerfull games which need that power. As for upgrades all stuff needs to be upgraded, storage hardware, security etc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Dark, I certainly understand why you feel the way you do about Windows compatibility issues--I'm certain most end users are likely to see things your way--but because you aren't a software developer you aren't seeing the other side of the issue. Which is simply this. First, Microsoft has a long history of maintaining backwards compatibility with older software applications and APIs long after they have passed out of mainstream use. For example, up until 1995 most processors ran on a 16-bit architecture. However, Intel's Pentium processor introduced the 32-bit architecture to the PC market and Windows 95 was the very first Windows version to support the 32-bit architecture.Microsoft could have done away with 16-bit compatibility ages ago, but the 32-bit version of Windows 7 still has 16-bit MS Dos backwards compatibility support. Its only the 64-bit version of Windows 7 that no longer has 16-bit application support, and Microsoft has plenty of good reasons to drop 16-bit support. Not the least of which is when does Microsoft reach a cut off point, say that's it, and focus their time and money supporting newer technologies? Another example is Microsoft's DirectSound API. Keep in mind that the technology was written in 1995, for PCs running Windows 95, and was written completely for a different era of hardware. Microsoft patched and maintained the API for as long as they could, but by 2005 there was so many changes in hardware it required a complete rewrite from scratch. That's when they began writing XAudio and XAudio2 which have essentially replaced DirectSound on Windows Vista and Windows 7, and offers a lot of new features that weren't available in DirectSound. Even though XAudio2 is technically the current API for audio programming on Windows. Fact of the matter is Windows Vista, Win 7, and Win 8 all come preinstalled with DirectSound 8 libraries for backwards compatibility support even though the API is considered to be deprecated. So contrary to your assertions Microsoft does try to maintain a reasonable amount of backwards compatibility support as long as its necessary and reasonable to do so. Second, is stability and other technical concerns. In order to upgrade and add new features to an operating system like Windows there usually has to be changes in the underlying APIs that can and very well may break compatibility with older software that rely on the API working exactly as it did in prior versions. This is very problematic for software developers, because they have to choose one of two methods for handling this problem. The method Microsoft has consistently chosen time and time again with their APIs is to branch or fork the API when and where possible. That's because there are sometimes changes that will break compatibility with older software and instead of choosing to break compatibility they allow two different versions of the library or API to be installed side by side with each other like we see with Microsoft's .NET Framework. While this certainly helps maintain compatibility for the long hall it gets to be confusing for developers, technical support, and of course end users who don't know the difference between one version of the API or library from another. The problem with forking an API and attempting to maintain backwards compatibility this way is that it becomes extremely bloated and successive upgrades only makes the problem worse. With Windows Vista everyone complained of poor system performance, massive slow down, and instability problems. Microsoft largely resolved these problems in Windows 7 by removing thousands of lines of code from the operating system, and by removing various libraries they felt that were no longer needed. As a result Windows 7 is both more stable and runs much more reliably than Windows Vista. It was a matter of necessity regardless of the cost to backwards compatibility. If Microsoft hadn't taken this necessary step and kept all that old code around Windows 7 would likely be as slow and unstable as Vista, because a software developer can't continue to add layer after layer of code indefinitely without degrading performance and stability. Sooner or later it becomes a necessity to clean house, and get rid of everything that isn't of primary importance. Finally, while I agree not everything Microsoft does like menu ribbons, changing the start menu, and various other changes aren't strictly necessary its usually a result of trying to be competitive. Microsoft now has to worry about competing with Apple's Mac OS operating system, and free desktop operating systems like Linux. A lot of the user interface changes we are seeing is an attempt to make their operating system look new, innovative, and set themselves apart from their competition. Plus with more advanced hardware like faster processors and 3d video cards the technology is there to add better visual effects like the 3d icons and 3d Windows arrow desktop in Windows 7. That was not possible 10
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Shaun, Um...Its not just that 16-bit support is broken, but was completely removed from 64-bit versions of Windows 7. I don't know all of Microsoft's reasoning behind it, but I can't really blame them for dropping support for 16-bit games and applications. All of that software is for Windows 95 and earlier. We can't expect Microsoft to support software that old indefinitely. Besides most of that software is so old its not worth keeping anyway. I don't think anyone in their right mind is going to go back to Word Perfect 5.1 or MS Word 2.0 when Word Perfect 12 or MS Word 2010 are more up to providing the demands of todays work place. a text only web browser like Lynx isn't up to the task of playing live audio casts and streaming videos as well as a number of other multimedia features we now consider common place. I don't know too many people who whould prefere a text only ftp client like Microsoft FTP when they have to type a command like get filename.zip when with Filezilla or another Windows FTP client they can just right click on the file and browse for a location to save. Bottom line, there really isn't a big market for those old software applications any more, and there really isn't much justification for keeping the support around outside of a few clasic Dos games like Duke Nukem or Prince of Persia. Cheers! On 12/11/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: true, 16 bit stuff is being totally broken in 64 bit versions of windows, Though 16 bit support without a real dos emulater is not that nice anyway right now. Oh well, I guess we will have to play our old games with dosemu or other dos emulator in linux then. Or an old system which I plan to get. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Alex, Yes, definitely true. I am no Microsoft fan myself, but I think people are being just a little too harsh over this issue of Visual Basic compatibility etc. Microsoft has good reasons for removing Visual Basic support even if some of us don't necessarily agree with them. Its not because they are lazy or have some sinister plan to screw everyone over. This change has been in the works since 2001, and Microsoft made it known that when .Net 1.0 and Visual Basic .NET were released Visual Basic 6 was deprecated and moved to legacy support. In 2008--a full seven years later--Microsoft officially dropped Visual Basic 6 support altogether. Its not like this all happened over night and Visual Basic 6 developers weren't put on notice. In a case like that I have to side with Microsoft because they maintained support for Visual Basic 6 long after it was deprecated and replaced by Visual Basic .NET. They also made it known that they were no longer continuing to support VB 6, and were actively recommending people switch as early as 2002/2003. If accessible game developers continued to use VB 6, ignored what was being said, etc its their own fault. They have no one to blame but themselves for not beginning to switch over to .NET years ago. I for one am happy to See David Greenwood planning to upgrade one of his games using newer APIs and programming languages rather than continue using VB 6 which was designed for a completely different era of computer hardware and software. Cheers! On 12/11/11, Alex Kenny alexkenn...@gmail.com wrote: While I'm not usually the person who will jump to Microsoft's defense, I don't think it's really fair to say they were too lazy to bother adding VB compatibility. After all, Windows 8 will still run games written in VB, but I'm guessing it will require the same tweaks that Vista and 7 do, namely registering the DirectX 8 libraries. While MS will be breaking VB support partly to force people to remove .NET, another In 1998, most people were using Windows 9X, which is an entirely different OS architecture than even Windows XP. The older code or components get, the more difficult it is to keep them working as a product evolves, and the more potential problems it can cause. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least two major Windows security problems that were the result of code that had been in Windows for several decades, most likely to maintain backward-compatibility. While I agree that MS breaking VB compatibility is going to cause huge problems in the audio games community, there are certainly technical reasons why MS is doing it beyond laziness and forcing people to upgrade. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp: spawning and loot questions.
I've written this down in my list of things to add. It does seem like a pretty simple solution, as long as no one forgets they have loot sounds disabled! haha! Frankly, both options together make things tremendous. Have a key to activate and deactivate loot scanning, as it were, and different flies sounds, and nobody can possibly take issue. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Hayden and all, Actually, the last time I got a progress report on Lone Wolf 4.0 there were suppose to be a number of changes planned. I don't remember them all but I do remember mission creators could customize the sub, increase or decrease the number of torpedoes carried into combat, rear facing torpedo tubes, and I seem to recall a discussion about environmental conditions like storms that would effect how fast and safely you could travel in certain missions. Another feature I remember being talked about at the time was 3d audio support. The original Lone Wolf used simple 2d stereo panning, but I remember David mentioning adding 3d support like you have in GMA Tank Commander. Which would definitely be a dramatic improvement in audio output. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Lone Wolf 4.0 won't just be a rewrite of 3. It will have a bunch of new features and improvements not seen before. Of course, assuming David Greenwood sticks to the changes and planned updates he was talking about a few years ago. Cheers! On 12/11/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi,I Understand the work required, but I don't understand why David would think anyone would purchase the game ifhe's simply rewriting it. I have no current plans to upgrade windows to any nonexistent version that does not allow the use of VB Code, and it sounds to me as if there are to be no changes to actual gameplay. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Swamp weekend progress
Well I spent all week at work, planning ahead for everything I was going to code once the weekend finally arrived. I've been working double land triple shifts monday through friday so I wasn't able to do any coding at all. So the weekend came and went and I'm frustrated to say that I didn't get another update ready. Believe me, I wanted to! The new week as begun and I'm minutes away from another week packed with double and triple shifts. :( Just to let everyone know though, a lot of work did get done on multiplayer missions. In fact, Kai and I spent a good amount of time today raiding a warehouse of supplies and fending off huge hordes of the undead in the process. Once next weekend rolls around, I hope I can finish things up and finally share the missions with everyone. Have fun playing and I'll try to at least read my emails and forum posts throughout the week. I'm outta here. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi Dark, As Phil wrote a little earlier David Greenwood released a long list of changes in version 4.0 around three or four years ago. Unfortunately I can not lay my hands on that particular e-mail, but I can say a lot of the changes were pretty substantial. Its not a simple case of David just rewriting Lone Wolf 3.0 in a new programming language and calling it version 4.0. There were some definite changes he had in mind back then, and I'm sure if he wants to make version 4.0 a success he'll be certainly adding most if not all of those advertised changes in version 4.0. As to your point about work arounds for Visual Basic 6 it is true for the moment, but I've been a programmer for nearly a decade. I can say from experience that basing your code on a deprecated language and technology in the hopes it will remain compatible or will always serve your needs is never a good idea. Yeah, Visual basic support still works now, but if you have an oppertunity to rewrite using the current APIs or languages for the target platform its always a good idea to do so. There are plenty of reasons for switching. For example, when I began learning Visual Basic .NET the intro of the book I was reading did a side by side comparison between VB 6 and VB .NET. I don't have the time to explain them all here, but what the author basically did was point out various issues and real world problems VB 6 developers ran into with the language and how VB .NET addresses those issues. Its things like that an end user such as yourself wouldn't necessarily take into consideration, but a developer might well have good cause to switch from VB 6 to VB .NET. Bottom line, if Jim Kitchen, Aprone, or anyone else feels Visual Basic 6 fits there needs that's fine. However, I'm just a little tired of seeing people complain about Microsoft's decision to remove Visual Basic 6 support from Windows 7 and later versions when they don't even know Microsoft's reasons for it. Before you start calling them lazy perhaps you should consult MSDN and other resources to get Microsoft's side of the issue rather than firing off your opinions half-cocked. Its certainly not as simple or as straight forward as you make it sound. Basically, what I'm saying here is there are two sides to every issue and I think Microsoft at least deserves to be treated with respect and as professionals who know what they are doing. Cheers! On 12/11/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Phil. Out of interest were there any major gameplay changes associated with lone wolf version 4? while I see the point, frankly just because microsoft are too lazy to add backward compatibility into windows doesn't mean there won't be ways around, and in the case of vb applications it seems that there are already pretty solid ways of running them on windows 7, which is why developers like Jim and Aprone are writing games in vb 6 stil (and I don't mean the hole virtual system emulation mallarchy either). So personally, and not just because I'm stil running xp (my computer afterall can't last forever), I am rather more interested in what possible gameplay changes or additions version 4 might have, especially if it's being sold as a separate game. Then of course what about the 92 custom missions for the game? personally I'd be more in favour of David writing a sequal rather than a version upgrade to the game, with significant gameplay changes, and leaving lone wolf version 3 as the distinct lone wolf. beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] my beef about Microsoft - Re: plans for an updated Lone Wolf
Hi ?Charles, Well, let me answer your question with a question. How do you expect them to make money if they don't continually release upgrades? It sounds to me like your question is along the lines of if it ain't broke don't fix it. While it might seem like you are paying money to do the same old things with OS that takes more memory, more CPU power, etc but I don't think you are paying attention to features or upgrades that have been added to the operating system. Let's use Windows Explorer as a simple example here. Back in Windows 98 you could not burn cds or dvds through Windows Explorer. Beginning with Windows XP you could burn data cds and music cds directly from Windows Explorer. In Windows 7 you can burn data cds, music cds, data dvds, and make video dvds by burning avi and mpg files to dvd all through Windows Explorer. My point being that we can clearly see new features like this being added to each successive version of Windows Explorer. Its really not a case of the same thing different version as a lot of other Windows programs have undergone a similar evolution. Weather you use those new features or not is really beside the point. The way I read your message is Microsoft doesn't do anything new or different from one version of Windows to the next accept make the OS more bloated, more of a memory hog, and there is nothing to ever recommend upgrading. I suppose some of what you say has some truth to it, but as I said above I think its simply a case of not taking advantage of the features and updates that are there. For instance,in Windows 7 there are a number of gadgets, little applets, you can dock to your desktop to monitor stocks and other real time information. Well, obviously if you don't follow the stock market and don't use the stock ticker gadget that would seem like a pretty useless upgrade to you personally. However, I'm sure there are plenty of people who buy and trade stocks online who happen to use that little stock ticker gadget, and for them upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 would have features they find useful in trading stocks. My point being not everything Microsoft adds to the latest Windows release will be important to you personally and it may even seem like the same thing different version, but for someone like me its really and truly not the same thing. There are a number of reasons a person might choose to upgrade weather it is bug fixes, security fixes, a new look and feel, more gadgets, additional features, whatever. It all depends on how much or how little you get out of your computer to begin with. Cheers! On 12/11/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Do they really have to continually upgrade the operating system and programs, making more power hogs, making us buy more powerful computers to do the same tasks we were previously doing but having to use more powerful processors and use more of the resources to do those tasks? Why can't they just leave well enough alone once they get a system that actually does what it's supposed to do? --- Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Please help me find a type of games.
Hello, All. On my iPhone I have some games that require you to be involve with the game. I downloaded two games yesterday that I found quite fun and interresting to play. The two games are call Inception and Dimensions Adventures. I was wondering if there are any other games that are like these. I do have Aurifi aswell. I think that games that require you to really be involve kinda like virtual reality games. I would be greatful if someone could help me with this. And by the way I have check on applevis and maccessibility sites but I have found some accessible games that are not on those sites. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
