Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough
I'm sorry to say but that's destructive criticism. If you let us know what the problem is that you have with it, it would be more helpful. Amanda -- From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough Hi gmagames have two tutorials of toc. Apply new keystrokes and new things with the basses of these. as far as rauls walkthrough his GTC Walkthrough is wastage of time. Smilee! Ishan On 5/13/14, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Well, if I hear how someone else plans a battle, I can work out my own way once I know what all the units stengths and weaknesses are. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:31 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough If your mind isn't strategically oriented, I doubt that a walk through would help. It would be like trying to show someone, audibly, how to play chess, and no two games are alike. If you memorize how to avoid a situation, it might not come up again, and you cannot memorize every possibility. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough Brian, would you even consider doing audio game walkthroughs? I seriously need one of toc, my brain just isn't good with stratijy, I'm more the blowing things up kind of gamer lol. -Original Message- From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough Very true. I used to have a lot of those on my computer. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: Lori Duncan Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough I love Raul's walkthrough, it's a shame he doesn't have much time for recordings now, would love to hear how he tackles toc or tdv, that guy is so funny and cool, not to mention good at explaining things. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 5:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough You can find it on the Internet. (grin of total rottenness in fun). Give this a try: www.asmodean.net --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: leo largel1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:13 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Sod walkthrough Where can I find a walkthrough of Sod? Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the
Re: [Audyssey] Speak and spell: was Re: MindCraft for the blind.
i loved that game too. I also liked write it as well smiles Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speak and spell: was Re: MindCraft for the blind. Hi Bryan: Both my Speak and Spell and Speak and Math were labeled using a braille label gun because I had them long before I lost my sight. In any case like your units both of them died years ago. I don't even remember what we did with them. I guess we threw them out when they stopped working. Too bad as it would have been nice to give them to my son to play with. I have to say though that I got my use out of them. My favorite game was Number Stumper. I use to sit there and play that game for hours and hours. At least until I got old enough that the problems were too easy and I got a 10 out of 10 score every time. Cheers! On 1/11/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I tink on my Speak spell the actual piece was just brailled. But I suspect my Speak Math had braille labels. I wish I still had them but both died years ago. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:55 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speak and spell: was Re: MindCraft for the blind. Hi Bryan: Well, it was possible whoever bought it for you purchased it for you that way. A number of the blind organizations sold the Speak and Spell and the Speak and Math already brailed for blind customers. The only difference from the ones sold by regular stores is the plastic piece covering the keys. The brailed ones had been removed, brailed, and then reattached to the unit. In all other respects it was no different from any other Speak and Spell or Speak and Math. Cheers! On 1/11/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I had a Speakand Math. I'm not sure who brailled it. I just know it was already brailled when I took it out of the box. Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game
where do you get it and how much does it cost? Thanks Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game Hi. Basically the game is a mix between resource management and an old fashioned dungeon style rpg (it rather reminded me of a dos game like fallthru or drone). You have a village of slaves who work to get you resources like wood, fir, scales, teeth and such. You can build different buildings such as huts to increase your population size, or buildings like a tanary, smoke house or hunters lodge to give you access to other jobs to get more materials. That end of things is sort of similar to castaways. The difference however is that you use these resources to not only expand your village but also build your rpg adventuring items, for example to enter dungeons and such you need torches which must be crafted from wood and cloth, while the backpack needs making from leather. The rpg end of things reminds me of fallthru, since you are limited in the amount of things you can carry by your equipment, so even when you defeat a monster you might not be able to pick up all the loot, and you also need to make sure you have enough water, food etc to travel around and have encounters. The game has some random events and encounters, and various locations to explore, though I've not got far in the exploring yet so I can't say how things like dungeons work exactly, still it's an interesting one. One very odd mechanic is that the game is actually real time like a mud, but the developers have put a lot of work into making the game accessible. All new events get instantly spoken, whether random occurrences or standard things in your history, and even though everything in the game (including hits in battle), works on cool down timers with percentages this presents no access issues at all. The only thing I haven't really got thus far is exactly how this fire thing is supposed to work, since while I keep stoking the fire in the main dark room hub of the game I'm not exactly sure what it does, though I'm guessing bad things happen if you ignore it for too long. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game
oh sorry, I've just relised that you're talking about an I phone game. Sorry about that. I don't have an I phone. Amanda -- From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:05 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game Hi dark, I looked at the ap store description of this game and it said practically nothing about it at all. can you give some insite as to what this game is and what it's about? -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 04 January 2014 20:02 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game Well the exploring is fun, and I like the access on the map, with the main map for double tap and then move buttons it's a nice setup, also this is the first Iphone game I've ever seen that has vo repeat spoken message in battle in case you miss them which is good. Deffinitely a good game for anyone who enjoys exploring and managing slaves, m, willing workers! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianmcnamar...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Dark Room, now an IOS iPhone game I do like what i've seen of it so far, I am always looking for new iPhone games to get as I play games more on my iPhone now than I do on the computer. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Happy new year
Happy new year to everyone Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 1:49 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Happy new year Hi Dark: Same to you. Have a happy new year. We in the USA are still stuck in 2013 right now. Only a few more hours and 2013 will be a memory for us as well. On 12/31/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: well it's just turned midnight, so from me a happy new year to everyone on list and I hope people have a great 2014. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
oh that's a shame smiles Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Amanda, Rowland was a well known game o the Amstrad computer system, but not really on much else. The Amstrad itself got rather overshaddowed by the far more well known zx spectrum and Comador 64. I have read that Roland on the ropes had versions released for both those systems under the name freddy, though I never got to play either at the time, and though i found a graphical internet remake of the freddy game it seemed to have rather a few errors and be somewhat clunky, also the person who made the remake decided to have the main character be a rather cartoony frog instead of a tomb explorer which was just weerd! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Amanda Burt aburt...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Rowland on the Ropes sounds as if it could be a lot of fun,I haven't played it before. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 1:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Dark: Yeah, I have heard the Power Joy was pretty decent. I don't own one myself, but it sounds like something I would certainly enjoy. As for Rowland on the Ropes it does sound like it could easily be made into an audio game. It sounds fairly simple to create, doesn't need a lot in the way of sounds, and I probably have the basic code written if I consider the work done for MOTA etc. In fact, I have strongly considered redoing MOTA exclusively as a side-scroller along the lines of something like this freeing up my Tomb Hunter series for the FPS genre. Cheers! On 12/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. Well the power joy, the one my dad owned wasn't too bad, it had the 30 or so games it played in a big long list so you just hit down, though I personally would've liked a little more highlighting. What I enjoyed about that console was as I said the chance to play several old nes titles such as Balloon fight, warp man and ice climbers, though later I got the ice climbers gba remake to play on my gamecube since I liked the game so much. Rowland on the ropes was a great game. I'm told it was released as freddy on other systems, where as the Amstrad cpc used the mascot for a games company, namely the titula rowland, but under whatever name it was an awsome game. Sadly I only found a rather badly done pc remake. The ghosts could be frightened away with the gun, so you weren't completely helpless, but where as it'd take one shot to shoot a mummy or a bat, several shots would be needed to get rid of a ghost. Usually the best way to deal with a ghost was run or climb in the opposite direction until the ghost got tired of chasing, or duck into a passage and let the ghost pass since they only traveled in one direction. The game also featured dropping acid, and rats that ran across ledges which you needed to traverse around. One very unique thing about the game is that you pretty much didn't really jump beside hopping on and off ropes, one reason why the rats were such a pain since you could only pass them by hopping of a rope in front of them then walking to the next rope and jumping on before they hit you. This is also why it'd be an easy one to do in audio, since you'd need no arcing jump controls or edge of ledge issues (all ledges had ropes), though you would need indicators of enemy movement in four possible directions, left and right along passages, or up and down the ropes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Rowland on the Ropes sounds as if it could be a lot of fun,I haven't played it before. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 1:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Dark: Yeah, I have heard the Power Joy was pretty decent. I don't own one myself, but it sounds like something I would certainly enjoy. As for Rowland on the Ropes it does sound like it could easily be made into an audio game. It sounds fairly simple to create, doesn't need a lot in the way of sounds, and I probably have the basic code written if I consider the work done for MOTA etc. In fact, I have strongly considered redoing MOTA exclusively as a side-scroller along the lines of something like this freeing up my Tomb Hunter series for the FPS genre. Cheers! On 12/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. Well the power joy, the one my dad owned wasn't too bad, it had the 30 or so games it played in a big long list so you just hit down, though I personally would've liked a little more highlighting. What I enjoyed about that console was as I said the chance to play several old nes titles such as Balloon fight, warp man and ice climbers, though later I got the ice climbers gba remake to play on my gamecube since I liked the game so much. Rowland on the ropes was a great game. I'm told it was released as freddy on other systems, where as the Amstrad cpc used the mascot for a games company, namely the titula rowland, but under whatever name it was an awsome game. Sadly I only found a rather badly done pc remake. The ghosts could be frightened away with the gun, so you weren't completely helpless, but where as it'd take one shot to shoot a mummy or a bat, several shots would be needed to get rid of a ghost. Usually the best way to deal with a ghost was run or climb in the opposite direction until the ghost got tired of chasing, or duck into a passage and let the ghost pass since they only traveled in one direction. The game also featured dropping acid, and rats that ran across ledges which you needed to traverse around. One very unique thing about the game is that you pretty much didn't really jump beside hopping on and off ropes, one reason why the rats were such a pain since you could only pass them by hopping of a rope in front of them then walking to the next rope and jumping on before they hit you. This is also why it'd be an easy one to do in audio, since you'd need no arcing jump controls or edge of ledge issues (all ledges had ropes), though you would need indicators of enemy movement in four possible directions, left and right along passages, or up and down the ropes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Sorry to hear about that, I do hope you might get some back at some point. I'm sorry I don't have any or I could have helped. Oh well. I still think it's sad though. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 1:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Amanda: Not really. Sad to say she did a lot of that stuff before I filed for divorce, and at most all I can do is ask the court for compensation for the stuff she sold. The problem is when we talk about old stuff like the Atari and games it isn't worth much, but it can cost a pretty penny to replace them if I buy them from collectors. So even if I ask for compensation I am not really sure how much I will get for the various things she sold. In the end I will probably just have to accept the fact she did me wrong, screwed me over, and will have to try and replace those games and consoles if and when I can. Cheers! On 12/29/13, Amanda Burt aburt...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Thomas That's terrible. Is there nothing you can do regarding your wife selling stuff behind your back? I really think that's disgusting. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Thomas That's terrible. Is there nothing you can do regarding your wife selling stuff behind your back? I really think that's disgusting. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:53 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Bryan, Cool. Glad you still have the original equipment. I use to have all of my Atari 2600 and Atari 7800 Plus equipment and games, but my ex decided to take them and sell them behind my back. So I literally have to start over from scratch if I want to have the equipment and games. Fortunately, thanks to emulators like Stella I am not sure buying the original hardware and games is worth it. I cam emulate most of what I want, and if not there are some retro consoles with many of the games built into the console which are cheaper than trying to collect all my old games and consoles. Cheers! On 12/28/13, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I actually still have a working Atari and a pretty large collection of games for it. It isn't the system my brother had growing up butrater one my sister's x boyfriend found somewhere and later gave to me. I had to shop around for a few controllers for it since it came with a few games that required the paddles but unfortunately didn't come with the paddles themselves. Unfortunately the site I used to buy my Atari stuff from, while still up as far as I know, was out of all Atari stuff last time I checked. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
hi Won't people need to move away from XP now due to the fact that Microsoft are not making any security updates? Didn't someone on this list say that anyone who is running XP now will be putting everyone else at risk or am I wrong about that? Thanks Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:56 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Shaun and all, Well, here is what I think will happen. I don't think it is anything to be afraid of because as I have said many times a lot of the stuff we have now can be run on Windows 8.1 with a little bit of tinkering. Yes, while there will be certain issues such as 3d audio support is broken in games like Shades of Doom, Tank Commander, etc it isn't an insurmountable issue. I have played Shades of Doom many times on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 using stereo mixing which is less precise but doable. What I think is going to happen is eventually a lot of people running XP right now will have to buy new computers running Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1. It is not so much a question of if but when. Let's say sometime in the next five years or so the XP user base will slowly but eventually upgrade to a newer machine, new OS, and obviously they will want games that are compatible with their new computers. As the number of blind users running something like Windows 8 grows developers will have to follow suit. They probably will be running newer computers themselves and will have to take some time to look at alternatives such as Visual Basic .NET, C# .NET, Java, whatever. I don't know if they will choose to rewrite any of their older games or not, but I feel confident that newer games will be coming out designed for Windows 7 and up just because by then most of the user base will be running something other than XP anyway. The other thing in our favor is that developers are already slowly moving away from Visual Basic 6 and are looking into more modern technology's. This won't happen all at once, but we are slowly moving away from VB 6 as a general rule. Draconis has a new engine written in C++ , and are rewriting many of their old titles. BPC Programs uses .NET which is already Windows 8.x compatible , and I don't see them having a big problem upgrading their software. Blind Adrenaline is using .NET and I don't see Che having a problem with his games on Windows 8 and beyond either. Entombed is similarly written in .NET and should have a decent shelf life assuming Jason maintains the code. There are quite a few developers using BGT now, and that is reasonably Windows 7 and Windows 8.x compatible currently/. So I wouldn't worry too much about new games being compatible as it seems as though developers are slowly but surely moving away from VB 6 in general. In short, we may have a few problems with older games, and some may stop working. However, by and large it won't be as bad as people fear. Many will still work on the newer platforms, and those that don't may get fixed or upgraded. If there comes a time that something won't work at all there is still the option to run XP etc in a virtual machine which gives a user the best of both worlds. Some people will undoubtedly drag their heals, but like you said I think the best thing to do is upgrade on your own terms rather than be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern computing world. Cheers! On 12/26/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Charles I have no answers for you. All I know is that something will have to happen. All I know is we can't go on as we are. I have no idea what that will mean and yes we may lose some stuff I just don't know. All I am saying is that there will be a time when what we used and loved will be gone. Think of all the synbian phones and nokia going to inaccessable win8. Ok se have a bit of access now but still its valid. I'd like to stay with nokia and symbian but the next thing I move to may have to be something other than I am used to. We have 2 choices. We can do it now at our own pace or we can wait another 10 years, when ms finally dropps their legacy software and handle it then. But if we do we may lose all audio games that are not converted. Now it will not be all games, but it will be a good deal. We have till at least the end of win8 to decide what we do. Ms however is vary generous I doubt this will stay for long. Look at xp its been vary good about keeping it for so long past its used by date. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Thanks for that. I have windows 7 and will make sure my security is as up-to-date as I can make it. Thanks Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 8:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Amanda, That is correct. The thing about security is that everyone is a sort of link in the chain. If you are able to keep your PC clean of viruses, Trojans, worms, and various other malware you won't be able to pass it onto anyone else and infect their PC. However, if you were running out of date software with poor security you have a greater risk of getting and passing on malware. You also have a risk of a cracker finding a back door into your PC and either damaging your personal data or using your personal data to steel your identity. It is in my opinion unwise to stick with old software that will no longer get security updates, because anyone online will be at risk of being victimized by unscrupulous crackers. Cheers! On 12/27/13, Amanda Burt aburt...@btinternet.com wrote: hi Won't people need to move away from XP now due to the fact that Microsoft are not making any security updates? Didn't someone on this list say that anyone who is running XP now will be putting everyone else at risk or am I wrong about that? Thanks Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi you need to do what you have to do, it's not your fault if people won't upgrade. We've been trying to convince people on our internet site to try to upgrade, if not for anything else, but for the security. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:00 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question Hi Josh, I definitely agree with your points. As far as USA Games is concerned we aren't going out of our way to drop support for XP, but neither are we going to go out of our way to support it. At some point when we begin adopting newer Windows components and if it isn't XP compatible too bad. As I stated I am already running Windows 8.1 and as lead developer I can take advantage of various new components, modern hardware, and I see no need to cripple my software because x number of gamers won't upgrade. I may take a loss initially, but I am also looking at supporting Mac and perhaps Linux in time which will recoup the losses in sales to XP users. So I am not as concerned about XP support as I might be if I were only looking at the Windows market specifically. Cheers! On 12/19/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Hi Tom, Your discussion of VB6 was one of the best explanations of the situation I’ve seen on this list. We’re in the process of rewriting old titles to use the new Engine. The old ESP Softworks titles were all VB6. This is going to be an arduous transition, but we’ll get there, and the games will be better than ever when we do. It is unlikely we will continue supporting XP, though. As you stated, we have a Mexican stand off, and we can take this opportunity to move forward since Mac sales are so robust and Windows sales are definitely weaker. Sales of our new Windows titles have not warranted the effort we put into supporting XP. For future titles, if we can support it with minimal effort, we will. When the effort required to maintain support for XP exceeds a certain threshold though, we just can’t justify it. If Windows sales pick up and a lot of users are still using XP down the road, we may revisit the topic. As for those who blame Microsoft for incompatibilities with VB6, it is common for people with these types of views of the world to want to vilify any company once it reaches a certain size for absolutely everything, whether based on facts or not. I have no love for big corporations, either, but I’m also not naive enough to think that every one of them is the equivalent of Lord Voldemort. Remember, Apple is doomed because they use DRM on the music they sell in iTunes. They aren’t, and they don’t, and in fact haven’t had DRM in just about seven years now, but those kinds of knee jerk reactions lead to everything being someone else’s fault. Apple didn’t even have a choice with the DRM situation. The record labels dictated that situation. It’s unfortunate, because for the most part, people who take these kinds of views are hurting themselves more than anyone else. At least until they start spewing misinformation across the Internet. Microsoft surely hasn’t done developers, or themselves for that matter, any favors with a lot of idiotic decisions they’ve made over the last 15 years or so, but not everything is their fault, either. As I have said so often, the world is comprised of shades of gray. It is rarely, if ever, black and white. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games
The slight worry I have is that, because some of the emails appeared to come from known members, I opened a few and one said that if you open this one you will get a virus on your computer. will this happen? I didn't open any more once I relised that the emails were spam? Amanda -- From: Christopher Bartlett atouchofrevere...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:23 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of other lists that goes on for a couple of days, then is squashed. My advice, ignore it, don't leave the list, don't respond, even when he begins threatening people or trying to slag their good names. He's mentally ill and this is just a manifestation of that illness. Hopefully he'll get a new prescription or help of some sort. I can't even find it in my heart to wish him ill. Chris Bartlett -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Leaving the list is giving in to the scum whose doing this. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games This kind of stuff is probably due to one individual, so I wouldn't leave the list because of it. It would only encourage the perpetrator of such childishness. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] L-Works Partnership with USA Games Yeah, Honestly I think this probably is going to about do it for me as well. I've about had it with the foolishness here of late. Anyway, happy holidays All! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: Sigh really? And people wonder why I hate this list. Glad to see people are adult enough to impersonate other list members. On 12/14/13, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: I am a big fan of mainstream games. There are plenty of home-made gay games out there. But there are none for us blind people! Thomas and I now are husbands, and we fuck each other daily. But I am a REALLY horny guy, and Thomas's ass is sore from my constant pounding. So I need to virtually penetrate him. I would like to share this experience with you all for $200. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] the cost of documentation - Re: Somepracticalquestionsreguarding the Monopoly game
agreed. I couldn't store any braille books in my bedsit. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the cost of documentation - Re: Somepracticalquestionsreguarding the Monopoly game Hi Charles: In the words of the Borg, braille is irrelevant. Lol! Seriously, though, you have a point. If the technology fails a person who was totally dependent on it would be sunk. However, using braille is still none-the-less an impractical method of reading and writing, because it is impossible to store braille books, notes, or documents of any kind in a standard mid sized apartment. I remember several years ago I had a complete bible in braille. It was 30 very large volumes in braille that seemed to weigh a ton each. The entire book took up the entire top shelf of a very large bookcase. Now, a standard print bible is large, but can fit nicely on a bookcase, on someone's coffee table, end table, and there are of course even small print versions compact enough to fit in a persons coat pocket. You can not do that with braille, but you can do it with electronic formats like text, epub, html, or whatever. I recognize you are a fan of braille, and I won't put you down for making that choice. I will, however, question how much you have considered it from a practicality point of view. It is extremely expensive to braille documentation, let alone a book as big as the bible, and even when a person makes that book they need something like a small warehouse to store it because it takes a lot of room to store complete braille books. To give you another example right now I have about 305 Star Wars books in epub format. I can fit the entire collection on a DVD, put it in my computer, and read them in Mozilla Firefox using the epub add-on. It is both very portable and the cost per book was actually quite inexpensive for me since buying electronic books is less than the cost of a paperback or hardback book in print. Now, let's assume I wanted to buy that entire collection in braille. The cost of all 305 books would probably be measured in the thousands. The cost of the braille paper, the binders, etc alone would make it more expensive to produce let alone labor costs. Once I purchased all 305 books I would still need a room to store them in. Since I live in a small apartment I would simply have nowhere to put all those braille books. So I have to question how practical braille is in today's society where technology appears to me to have a lot more advantages over braille both in terms of cost as well as the ability to store as much documentation as I want. Cheers! On 12/11/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Become dependent on technology. Technology fails. You're sunk. Nobody or nothing does your reading for you. Use braille. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Good grief, that's terrible Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games Hi Dakotah, That's interesting. Only problem is I won't be able to take advantage of any Black Friday sales this year. Before my ex left me she cleaned out our bank accounts leaving me penniless, and I had to take out a loan for an attorney to represent me in the divorce and child custody dispute. As a result I am as broke as broke can be right now, and will probably be up to my ears in debt for months to come paying off the loan for the attorney fees. So sad to say $45 might as well be a million bucks right now. In any case I have not made any decision regarding what phone to get as I simply can't afford any of them until I get through my divorce and pay off the loans. On 11/25/13, Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com wrote: Android is really starting to get a good bit of momentum behind it in terms of accessibility and interesting accessible titles. The problem is, you're really only going to see those for a bit on really good phones or nexus devices. That's why, in my opinion, getting an iPhone is your best bet, if you haven't made your choice yet. Also, as a note, if you're in the U.S., as I think you are, try checking out Wal-Mart's Black Friday stuff. I think I remember seeing that you could get an iPhone 5c on the big two mobile carriers for $45 and a 5s for $100. I might be wrong, but if I'm not, that's really really good. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message
Hi oh I agree. I manage lists for an organisation I volunteer for and Google groups are not as easy as it use to be. The audio word verification things are not very good and I got a head ake trying to use them. My view is that, if needs be, if you delete the list and re-create it, that might be the easiest thing as we need to make sure that you are not swamped with this work. I know how time consuming it is putting people on to lists and I don't want you to be having to spend too much time with this. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message Hi Cara, Yeah, I know. I used Google Groups a while back, and their list management interface was pretty poor accessibility wise. I could do it, but nowhere as accessible or straight forward as Mailman is. Cheers! On 11/15/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hi again, Thomas, Just to clarify, I am talking about the GoogleGroups interface for managing groups, not the member interface. The management experience at this point is just awful from a blindness perspective. Thanks, Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Rules for writers, some humour!
Excelent stuff, love that Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:44 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Rules for writers, some humour! With the recent discussion of grammar and spelling I thought perhaps people would appreciate the following, which a friend sent me a very long time ago but which I kept for amusement value: Rules for Writers - 1. Verbs HAS to agree with their subjects. 2. Prepositions are not words to end sentences with. 3. And don't start a sentence with a conjunction. 4. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive. 5. Avoid clichés like the plague. (They're old hat.) 6. Be more or less specific. 7. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary. 8. Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies. 9. No sentence fragments. 10. Don't use no double negatives. 11. Proofread carefully to see if you any words out --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Where's game developer?
Goood one, love it smiles Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Where's game developer? Hi Charles, LOL! I guess that is so. However, I'm sure everyone would prefer this list has everything including the Kitchen's Inc. Cheers! On 9/1/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: So, I guess for now, this list includes everything but the Kitchen's Inc? (Sorry, but I had to get rid of that.) -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Question About the Best user Interface
I agree. A table would be easy once you got used to it. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:41 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Question About the Best user Interface Hi Dark, That's actually one very good reason to put everything into a table on one single screen. Almost every screen reader I know of has some sort of find/search feature that will help someone search for text on the screen. In NVDA, for example, it is insert+control+f in desktop mode and capslock+control+f in laptop mode. A dialog comes up, you type in the text you want, and NVDA will move the review cursor to that spot on the screen if found.So examining this table of performers wouldn't be that hard using the screen reader's find or search command. That feature wouldn't work if it was split up over multiple screens. Cheers! On 8/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. To be honest you'll always have that problem, whether you use one screen or many, since you'll still need to read through all the performers. Other than having some sort of search routine in the game where you could type a name and have a list of results displayed, I'm not sure if there is a way around that. This is one reason I suggested alphabetisation, since then at least you can find who you want a little quicker. Btw, this is where supernova's ability to find specific text on screen and jump straight to it is very useful, since however things are arranged just typing say hulk when I wanted hulk hogan I could find out what number he was fairly quickly, indeed I've done this before in text adventure games with large tables of information. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Question About the Best user Interface
Hi I don't think you should waste your time using a graphical interface. It'll cause you work and I think it would be easier using the table system. I think you should make things as easy for yourself as possible smiles. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Question About the Best user Interface Hi Dark, LOL! My thoughts exactly. Not only do I agree with the points you made below, but rewriting the game to have a modern graphical user interface would totally defeat the purpose of why I wrote Slam as a text based console game in the first place. The main reason behind writing it as a console game is because unlike Windows users I still play a lot of console based games on Linux using a screen reader called Speakup. Since Speakup works really well with console applications I see no need to have a fancy graphical user interface when text is all I really need for speech output. Plus I have already tested with NVDA, a demo of Jaws, etc and its equally accessible if the person knows how to use their review cursor. Finally, I now am focused on creating universally accessible games for Windows, Mac, Linux, etc and as we all know the more graphical we get the less accessible and more complicated it gets in turn. So text based was for me the best user interface possible for insuring universal accessibility. To give you an example of how accessible this thing is on Linux if someone is deaf-blind and uses BrailleTTY it works just fine with that screen reader. If they are blind and use Speakup they can use that. It also works with Orca both speech and braille under Gnome, but is slightly less friendly than the other options just because Orca's terminal support isn't as good as it could be. On Windows it works fine with NVDA 2013, seems to work okay with the Jaws 14 demo, and probably works okay with Window-Eyes too.If someone sighted wants to play it they can do it just by reading the text on the screen. The point being just by ignoring all that graphical user interface stuff I have saved myself time, complication, and have created a game that is for the most part accessible out of the box with any screen reader for just about any platform. So that is why I wrote it as a console program. :D Cheers! On 8/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Oh please not another rewrite! Myself, I'm quite happy with console windows, indeed I might suggest to people that it is actually a useful skill to have, especially if you want to play say interactive fiction, heck, I've even seen the skills I picked up i navigating tables, understanding lists of information and quickly switching to in put text be useful in playing comparatively modern web based games such as puppet nightmares. Not that I have anything against a windows interface, using sapi etc, but I don't really see it as worth the rewrite if the thing is already done, and to be perfectly honest seeing yet another! usa title go into rewrite at community behest would be more than a little depressing for those like me who just want to dam well see a completed and playable game! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games
I don't think you should do that. I think you do an excellent job providing games just like all the rest of the developers do. People are just going to wait and if they're not satisfied, then that's just tough, I'm afraid. Congratulations to the people who develop games, I'm going to try to save up and buy some games in the near future smiles Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MY complaints about L-works games Hi Liam, While I personally would hate to see you do that I also couldn't blame you if you did. There have been a number of times I've considered just quitting myself, and turning Raceway and MOTA over to someone else and ride off into the sunset. A lot of it has been due to pressure of getting this or that done on demand. Some people here want things now, now, now. On 6/22/13, Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com wrote: I would not mind quitting development at times. As said earlier, it is a labor of love and does not pay the bills. I work full time. If people are that dissatisfied, then maybe it's time to close up shop. Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
I think that would be excelent, I would be interested in that Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Fifty Shades of Dark.
I think that's excelent, it would be worth doing, i think. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fifty Shades of Dark. Hi Phil, Hahahaha! I swear you crack me up some times. I love it. On 4/13/13, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: Games we'd like to play. Fifty Shades of Dark. Allison visits Dark at his company's headquarters where she finds him working out his patented fifty shades of blindness that had earned him a PHD and eventually a fortune. It was like a handicap in bowling in which your light perception could be plotted on a scale where 0 was total blindness and 50 was total sight. Then when buying an appliance or playing a game, all the person had to do was type in their Dark number and the game or device would instantly be adjusted to their specific visual needs. As she entered his office, she tripped on a wire strung along the door frame and fell on her face. Dark was standing behind his desk looking out the window observing the comings and goings of the people far down below. At the sound of her scream, Dark swung around and smiled. He was an impressive figure, two meters tall dressed in black, with his left arm in a sling because of a recent dueling wound. I see you don't understand the protocol of addressing me. You must bow to the great and hugely entertaining dark, before entering my office. Only then will the trip wire be withdrawn. Allison spoke, I was told your are the top authority on blind games and the most informative source on the subject in the world. Dark nodded, Yes that is true my dear. Now what would you like to ask me? There has been a rumor that you received your wounded left wrist not from a fencing battle but from playing too much Swamp. Is this not true? Dark frowned, saying, Drat you have me there woman. I have a bad case of mouse wrist syndrome. But pleas do not mention it to my adoring fans. They all think I am indestructible. She raised her pen int he air and said, I have only one more question for you and the whole destiny of the world hangs on your answer. Continued in the next issue of Audyssey Magazine. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] captcha
that's rediculous. Your managers had a cheek there. Amanda -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:35 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha I've challenged such claims. If the builder says that it is accessible, show me by using it as if you needed to have that accessibility. The management staff where I worked insisted that their software was accessible to people using screen readers. They wanted the blind people to speed up their voice rates to gather the info more quickly. So a tech put JAWS at the highest speech rate, turned off the monitor, and played a credit card number. He then asked managers to repeat what they heard. Not even the blind screen reader users could do it. Repeating it several times only wasted time. The speed was then brought down to a reasonable level, and we could hear and get it the first time it was announced. Managers still insisted that we crank JAWS up to increase productivity. This is corporate logic, which is an oxymoron. Just because there is a ramp, if it is too steep or narrow, and the entrance is not wide enough, it is not accessible. Same for computers and systems. If it is unusable, it is not accessible. With proper modification and use, it can be made accessible, increasing your number of customers. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] captcha This is exactly why it's such an issue charles. It's fairly clear that this is a lip service to access and wasn't ever tested as you describe, sort of like someone claiming their building is wheel chair accessible because it has a ramp that goes straight into the broom cupboard which is two foot wide and would never actually fit! a wheel chair, but hay, it's got a ramp! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Solving Captchas was Anymore RPG Games?
I remember on the BT site and for anyone who doesn't know what that it's British Telecom and what they did was to ask a question that only I would know the question they asked was: what was my mums madon name. Of course, my family would know that answer but not many other people would. I can't see why Google or other companies can't do that. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Solving Captchas was Anymore RPG Games? Hi Amanda, Yeah, I think we are all in agreement captchas are from an accessibility standpoint more trouble than they are worth. There are other more accessible options available to a web developer, but the reality is we need to find a way to deal with them because I doubt they are going away any time soon. :D On 4/8/13, Amanda Burt aburt...@btinternet.com wrote: I agree, there's no need for captures. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Solving Captchas was Anymore RPG Games? Hi Amanda, Yeah, I think we are all in agreement captchas are from an accessibility standpoint more trouble than they are worth. There are other more accessible options available to a web developer, but the reality is we need to find a way to deal with them because I doubt they are going away any time soon. :D On 4/8/13, Amanda Burt aburt...@btinternet.com wrote: I agree, there's no need for captures. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Solving Captchas was Anymore RPG Games?
I agree, there's no need for captures. Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 7:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Solving Captchas was Anymore RPG Games? Hi charles. Speaking as someone who regularly gives spambots the heave ho on a forum without! captures, i can say they aren't necessary if the moderators are doing their jobs, since the best way of getting rid of spambots is just give them the boot when they turn up, and while they do turn up fairly regularly it's certainly not more than any reasonable person can handle. then of course there are the logical alternative methods to captures. I've seen several systems which ask you an obvious question from some info on the website, for example in Kingdom of loating for the forums your asked questions about the game's character classes, while for another forum I joined for an rpg you were asked the name of the land the game took place in. So, even if people do! want an automatic way to stop spambots, there's no reason it has to be these stupid bloody captures that are inconvenient for most people and actually inaccessible in audio form. Btw, I used to actually be an advocate of audio captures, since google's old ones were quite usable, --- sadly not anymore! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] RS Games Farkle
I would definately give RS games a try, I think they are excelent. Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:34 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] RS Games Farkle Not a game I've ever heard of before charlese actually, though it does look very unique indeed, I'll actually have to create an rs games account myself and give some of these a try. I had one back in the rs monopoly days but it's probably gone west. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: audyssey gamers list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] RS Games Farkle Not a bad rendition of the game. There are a lot of scoring options and it's a fun game. When you're connected, look for beastmaster. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville
Google are really getting worse. I have trouble with their captures and they've changed how to manage Google groups as well. It's enfuriating. Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hi Al. i've had a word with the developers. The bad news is they can't change the capture, sinse it's a standard google one and it's google who've changed their system. I've attempted to contact google about this, sinse while I found their old captures doable with decent headphones, their new ones aren't, and an accessibility option that is utterly unusuable is no good at all. it was a pain in the kneck to track down google's contact address though, and their phone number wasn't working at all so i don't hold out great hopes there, quite ironic as I rememb er at one time E-mailing google support was incredibly easy. As to Godville though, the developers are willing to invite people to create accounts, which avoids the capture, so that's a good way around. As to the game, i think I see the problem, sinse rather than using standard controls on the pages they've simply got text that can be clicked on, so for instance to encourage you literally need to just mouse click on the word encourage it's not a button or a link or anything. With Hal this is doable, but I can see why it would be a problem with other programs. i suggest you just tell them in as honest a way as possible what is not working, and suggest a fix, particularly if you've seen a similar sight that does the same thing and so can give a reference. In general the game sort of reminds me of progress quest, but a more serious version. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hey Dark, I got trimmed (I am so ashamed) so I just wanted to say that I agree with you completely on that score. I am also thinking about contacting the game developers about certain things on the web browser side of the game about some of the controls, although I have no idea how to tell them the proper way to fix it to make it more accessible. Any hints on that? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly
I agree. I know we're a minority but I still think we should be able to have a choice regarding this, a lot of us will be left in the cold if the big companies get their way. Or should I say when they get their way. Amanda -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:41 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly Yep, once again why can't microsoft just continue xp? :D. Goodness knows what will happen with access tech and windows 8, it's a shame after very stable access to xp that things are moving in this direction, but once again because vi users are a minority we get the short end of the stick. I have at least heard that ribbons are so disliked they're coming out of windows 8, and I've also heard windows 8 has 16 bit compatibility, so there are at least a couple of pluses there albeit small ones. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly Hi Dark, Yes, unfortunately all the buttons etc are a part of the new interface. I've used Vista and now Windows 7 so have had time to get use to them, but I didn't care too much for the new version of Explorer either when I first encountered it under Vista. However, I have at least managed to customize Explorer enough that I can ignore all the extra junk that comes along with it. That said, you should have seen the Explorer that came with some of the betas of Windows 8. Now, that was a nightmare. In addition to the buttons and other crap the menubar had been replaced with the ribbons that really was a major turn off. Now, I hear the ribbons are suppose to be removed before final release and let's hope so. Although, Windows 8 will be a dramatic departcher from XP and even Windows 7 as far as the U.I. goes. Part of the reason for that is that Apple's iOS and Google's Android OS is very trendy. Everything is moving to touch screens, and Microsoft like everyone else is attempting to come up with a touch screen U.I. similar to Apple's touchscreen U.I. for iOS. Windows 8 has a radically new user interface with new touch screen technology which is similar to iOS, and people who love XP will likely hate Win 8 because Microsoft is pandering to the touchscreen users with their new U.I. Same thing is happening in the Linux world too. Ubuntu 12 uses Unity because Cononical is attempting to market Ubuntu Linux for cell phones, tablet PCs, netbooks, etc all with the new touch screen interface we are seeing with iOS, and in order to stay competative Linux distros like Ubuntu have to move away from traditional graphical user interfaces and adopt trendier interfaces like Unity. Which often leaves access technology in the position of playing catch up. Cheers! On 3/13/2012 6:27 AM, dark wrote: Hi Tom. It is true that I have my own folders in xp set as lists, and the windows 7 machine I tried wasn't mine, I just wasn't sure whether all those buttons and random controls were part of the interface or could be disabled. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] USA Games Mailing Lists or Forums
I prefer lists to forems. I find them easier to handle. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] USA Games Mailing Lists or Forums Hi Shaun, Yeah, I know, but what I was looking for here is some actual figures as to how many blind gamers prefer mailing lists over forums or forums over lists. So far while there seem to be a handful of us in favor of a forum the majority by far seem to like lists better. However, the USA Games community isn't that large to really require a forum anyway. There is only like 40 to 45 people subbed to the list at any given time, and it has been very low traffic of late. Forums seem to be more popular with large game companies like Electronic Arts or someone like that who has thousands of subscribers on any given day. with that many subscribers a mailing list would be totally impractical as it could never keep up with the hundreds of posts that would be typical of a subscriber list that size, and even if it did I doubt the average gamer wants 500 e-mails poring into their inbox daily. So obviously large companies really need a forum for heavy message traffic rather than a mailing list. On 12/20/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed a small trend in the other direction, a lot of new stuff gets forumed sometimes and the lists left out for ages, so giving them a miss is probably not a good things eiter. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Death in the Family
I am really sad to hear of this sad news. I will be thinking of you at this sad time. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Death in the Family Hello everyone, Just want to let everyone know there has been a death in the family. Today at 2:00 PM my grandma, who was 85, has passed away. Emotionally I'm ok, this was pretty much expected, but I just wanted to let everyone know what is going on. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Congrats on mota 21
I am really sorry to hear about your news. I really hope your gran will be all right and will make a speedy recovery. I will be keeping my fingers crossed. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 1:16 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Congrats on mota 21 Hi Dark, I have no intentions of taking the beta down. Although, I'm working on beta 22 which addresses some minor issues and bugs found in beta 21. So by Sunday there will probably be a new beta there. However, that all depends on a personal family situation though. Just to let people know Sunday night I was informed that my grandma was admitted to the hospital, and it doesn't look good. So with that in mind I may not have a lot of free time to deal with USA Games stuff this week as I may be out of town to visit my grandma in the hospital, or possibly worse if she doesn't make it. So this definitely isn't a good time for beta testing as any plans I might have had for MOTA beta 22 just went out the window last night. On 8/8/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I'm glad mota 21 is finally out and I look forward to trying it. Currently I'm at a light opera festival and using a wireless hotspot provided by my service provider, (I'm actually sitting out in the street on a picknick table), and though it's okay for checking E-mail, even Jim's new version of Homer is too much to download given the horrible speed and nasty habbit the server has of asking me to keep re-loguing in (very odd as I get it free with my isp). i'll however look forward to trying it on sunday evening when I get back to my parents. this means I would please ask you keep the beta up until then sinse i'd like to give it a go. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Thief class update
Hi. Where can you get the scripts for JAWS for this? Thanks in advance. Amanda -- From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon Thief class update Alter Aeon is at it again with a new set of expansions! We've done a pretty thorough rework and update of the thief class, with two entirely new groups of skills and a number of updates to older ones. Major additions include: - Updates to the poison brewing and handling skill tree, with the new abilities to poison food and corpses, reduce antidotes, and brew advanced poisons with special effects - A complete new skill tree has been added for shadow skills, with new skills to aid in stealth, combat, and transport - A brand new set of skills for creating and throwing grenades, with several recipes including firebombs, flash bombs, smoke bombs, and stink bombs - New low level skills added to aid in finding safe areas and help escape bad situations when grouping with others - A major update to the lock picking skills, turning it into a more progressive and potentially faster process - Minor updates for other classes, including automatically reviving vampires and a new low level skill for warriors Everyone is welcome to play, so if you're new to the game feel free to stop by and check us out. For more information and soundpack downloads, see our web site at: http://www.alteraeon.com For those of you who don't know anything about us, Alter Aeon is a multiplayer text-based game with a lot of features and settings to help make it blind-friendly. Over half our playerbase is blind or visually impaired, and we have blind builders and staff helping to expand and improve the game. Thanks! Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A Sincere Apology to the List
Hi Thomos. It's lovely to have you back. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] A Sincere Apology to the List Hello Everyone, I’d like to take the time here to offer my sincere apologies for my extremely disgraceful behavior yesterday morning. I know there are some here who will most likely view my behavior as childish, immature, etc. it was certainly unprofessional of me to say some of the things I said, and do some of the things I did. Yet, now that I've had some time to get away from the list, get away from the situation, cool down, and get some perspective I can see both sides of this issue a little clearer. I realize that certain members of the list, other game developers, felt they were being bullied, pressured, and Che felt it was his job to stand up and defend them the only way he knew how to. I take his points, even though he was much harsher than he needed to be, and I'll attempt to be more diplomatic in the words and things I say on this list in the future. I must honestly confess that it is hard for me not to comment on a topic or give my opinion even when the person or persons involved don't want to hear it. So I need to monitor my urge to write a quick reply and make absolutely sure it says what I mean, and that the message does not contain any words that can be misinterpreted by the intended party or parties receiving it. I guess what I'm trying to say here is simply this. E-mail is a very impersonal form of communication. To us it is just a bunch of text on the screen that gets read back to us via our screen reader of choice without any sense of the emotion, intent, or purpose behind it. It is us, the reader, who interpret it and assign emotions and intent to that message. It sometimes is interpreted correctly, and sometimes it can lead to misunderstandings and hurt feelings on both sides. Which is what I feel happened yesterday. I certainly do not want to offer you any excuses for my actions yesterday, but I do feel I owe you an explanation of why I did what I did. What I'm about to say isn't being said to get sympathy, lay a guilt trip on anybody, or hand you a sad story, etc. I merely want to give you a few facts that lead up to my behavior yesterday in the first place. You are free to reject or accept this as you will. In my message yesterday I made reference to some problems with my marriage, and let me say these are quite true, and as you might expect it is a very stressful and painful time for me. I consider the issue very personal so I don't want to get into it at any real length, but my wife and I have been having problems for quite a long time now and the situation has tended to progress from bad to worse. We have been arguing about everything from our family finances to how much time I spend on my computer working on games when she feels I should be spending that time with her or my son. Here is an example of what I mean. On July 4th my wife wanted to go to the fireworks as a family as we do every year, but I didn't want to go because for me listening to fireworks is nothing but a bunch of loud noise. I felt those two hours or so could be better spend at home working on game code, editing sounds, and working on game documentation. It went over with her like a rock, and that started an argument that ruined the entire evening for us both. Having these kinds of personal issues is bad enough, but there are certain individuals in this community who are pushing, nagging, and putting pressure on me to release Mysteries of the Ancients and Raceway on some unrealistic time table I can't simply meet and have any kind of time for my family, work, etc. I don't know if it is their ignorance of how much time and energy it takes to complete a game of any size, they are just self-centered, or both. Either way you look at it their constant nagging, complaining, etc just makes the situation that much worse for me because I have to make a daily choice how to assign my free time which comes down to work on said games or spend it with my family. Those of you who aren't married, don't have family obligations and responcibilities, might not understand exactly what that feels like, or appreciate the situation I am in here. Bottom line, what I am trying to say is that I've not been myself for quite a while now. I have been angry, upset, moody, and very stressed out over a number of personal and professional issues. Normally, most people who know me know that I am usually a very rational down to earth kind of person. However, anyone no matter who they are can be pushed beyond their emotional fortitude and snap given enough time and stress. Which brings us to Wednesday morning. I was already upset, not in a good mood, when I opened gmail and began reading my mail that morning. It was to everyone's misfortune that Che chose
Re: [Audyssey] A Sincere Apology to the List
Well said. It was very brave of Thomas to come back and apologise like that. Now could we please get back to what we are supposed to be discussing? Thanks very much everyone. Amanda -- From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:05 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Sincere Apology to the List Please Daron, don't stir things up again. That was a sincere apology and should be taken as such. Nobody's perfect after all. There's a lot more I could say but I'll refrain from cluttering up the list any further. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Sincere Apology to the List Hello Thomas, You said: I guess what I'm trying to say here is simply this. E-mail is a very impersonal form of communication. To us it is just a bunch of text on the screen that gets read back to us via our screen reader of choice without any sense of the emotion, intent, or purpose behind it. It is us, the reader, who interpret it and assign emotions and intent to that message. It sometimes is interpreted correctly, and sometimes it can lead to misunderstandings and hurt feelings on both sides. Which is what I feel happened yesterday. I think that the use of colourful language was pretty well understood. You were a moderator on this list at that time. as a moderator you would in the passed pull people up for using such trivial words as hell, yet yesterday you knowingly go and break practically every single rule in the book. But then again we can look back in the passed and see you breaking rules whilst pulling people up for said very same thing so perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised. You said: In my message yesterday I made reference to some problems with my marriage, and let me say these are quite true, and as you might expect it is a very stressful and painful time for me. I consider the issue very personal so I don't want to get into it at any real length, but my wife and I have been having problems for quite a long time now and the situation has tended to progress from bad to worse. We have been arguing about everything from our family finances to how much time I spend on my computer working on games when she feels I should be spending that time with her or my son. Well Thomas sorry to hear you're having problems. Relationship difficulties are never easy. I very nearly allowed my relationship to be destroyed through my lack of willingness to accept that I suffer from depression. It was only when my wife to be hit breaking point and nearly left me that I pulled my finger out my butt and decided to do something about things instead of mood swinging in multiple directions. But we all have choices in life. Looks like you need to reassess your priorities or not only could you be losing a wife you could be losing a son as well and I think that's sad to be very honest. But having said that, your problems are no more the responsibility of this community than it is responsible for my depressive states. Sorry to sound blunt but that really is the way it is. so what if it takes you longer to develop your games and software, if that saves your marriage then isn't that worth it? you're letting other people put pressure on you when really it's you that needs to take a firm hand of your situation. You said: Here is an example of what I mean. On July 4th my wife wanted to go to the fireworks as a family as we do every year, but I didn't want to go because for me listening to fireworks is nothing but a bunch of loud noise. I felt those two hours or so could be better spend at home working on game code, editing sounds, and working on game documentation. It went over with her like a rock, and that started an argument that ruined the entire evening for us both. I'm not surprised. The forth of july is a celebratory event which happens once a year and should be spent with family friends and loved ones. Also kids lets be honest they aren't going to stay kids for ever are they? My partner does things sometimes with me that I enjoy but she doesn't necessarily enjoy so much if at all. thus the saying give and take. You said: Having these kinds of personal issues is bad enough, but there are certain individuals in this community who are pushing, nagging, and putting pressure on me to release Mysteries of the Ancients and Raceway on some unrealistic time table I can't simply meet and have any kind of time for my family, work, etc. I don't know if it is their ignorance of how much time and energy it takes to complete a game of any size, they are just self-centered, or both. Either way you look at it their constant nagging, complaining, etc just makes the situation that much worse for me
Re: [Audyssey] I'm Leaving the List
Hi Thomas. I think this is really sad that you feel you have to do this. I haven't been on this list for long but I find that you are kind and helpful and you put a lot of hard work in to your games. I think you will be sadly missed. Thanks for all your hard work. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] I'm Leaving the List Hi everyone, I just wanted to say effective immediately I am leaving the Audyssy list, am resigning as comoderator for reasons of my last post, and will likely be closing USA Games for a few months. I've reached a point where I can not exist on this list or any other list with certain members of this community, and I've been pushed personally beyond my ability to put up with the crap. I tried doing my best to give helpful information, to take extra time and energy to design the games the best I can, and apparently my best isn't good enough for a lot of people so its time to put away my keyboard and leave this community. Its time to say some of the things I have not said before, but they need said. I have worked as often as I can, as much as I can on MOTA and Raceway, but it is a long and tedious process for me. I don't always have time to work on them, and you have no idea how many family reunions, cookouts, etc this summer I've skipped to work on those games. For quite some time now I've spent so much time working on the games my marriage has been strained and stressed adding even more stress to trying to complete these games. Having the community e-mail me off list now and then asking me when will game x be done over and over again is bad enough. However, Che's e-mail was the braking point for me. I've always tried my best to give helpful suggestions, opinions of what programming languages and tools to use based on nearly 12 years experience in the business. Having been college educated in VB, C++, Java, etc I have at the very least an educated opinion for why I say what I say and do what I do. I've tried my best not to insult other developers, be fair when giving my opinions, but apparently Che and others decided to take it personally, in return insulted me, and that I can not and will not put up with. So I'm leaving. Either Che goes or I go, but we can not coexist on this list without killing each other first. So I'm leaving. So long and fair well. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] To all members
Well, i agree whith what you have said, as I hav said before I like Tomos and think he is a reasonable guy whome i like a lot and I hope his marriage is not under threat. Amanda -- From: Damien C. Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To all members Darren, This is no laughing matter. He is being pressured and harassed on and off lists, which can make anybody break under the strain. If one person breaks, it can affect their mood, and their mood can affect those around them. It then becomes a tense atmosphere until the pressured person finally snaps and spends more time pandering to the whims of the pressuring situation, at which point the atmosphere becomes cold as well as tense. And under that sort of atmosphere, anyone can snap, including relationships. Trust me, it has happened to me. Not exactly through game development, but through other situations around me. So please don't make false accusations or assumptions about Thomas guilt tripping, or laugh about it. Thomas is a very reasonable guy and I'm sure he wouldn't just say something to guilt trip anyone. I've seen his activity for five years roughly now, and he is a firm but fair character. But he would never flame anyone. He had his opinions, but they came in the form of constructive criticism rather than downright flaming. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To all members Lol don't be silly, nobody can destroy a marriage or relationship unless the 2 people involved allow it to be. I think Thomas only said that to try and lay the guilt trip on people. Which isn't going to work regardless. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: 20 July 2011 13:11 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To all members Damien can you pass on our best wishes, well those of us who care that is. Thomas did a job and a half here and was even and fare minded in his decisions. I can't program games, but I value him and his ilk who can and for him to go because of some selfish sucks in this community is shameful and if he ever comes back you'd best push off first. all those who have taken him apart well done for destroying someone and his marriage maybe. grow up if you're capable of such. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Damien C. Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] To all members Hey folks, I am afraid and sad to say that Thomas has carried out the act specified in his email. His unsubscription notification came into me roughly an hour and half ago. I think it is very sad that it has come to this and I would hope that the offending members will learn by the consequences of their actions. I do hope, when things are a bit calmer, that Thomas may reconsider his decision to leave everything he has been working so hard to achieve, but I'm not banking on it. I have seen several situations where Thomas has been upset by the amount of pressure that is being put on him on both this and his own mailing lists. I try not to take sides, but at the same time it is totally uncalled for to put so much pressure on an independent, hobbiest game developer that he feels he has to leave absolutely everything behind him. Regards, Damien. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] This is all crazy
I'm not taking sides in this. I was surprised at everyone's Thomas's behavior, especially as he was a moderator. It's a shame people are not able to take criticism in the manner it was meant. I think you're all lovely people and I hope we can come back from this. I do hope that Thomas does come back but he can't now be a moderator as he has broken lots of guidelines. I really hope we can all move on from this and get back to what we should be discussing, that is games. Amanda -- From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:54 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] This is all crazy Hi Jeremy, Well I think the thing people do when they decide to take sides i think it's a 2 fold thing. Firstly you get the people who just spoil for a fight thus they'll take a side and why not in their opinion. Secondly I think some people just want him to continue developing what ever it is he's developing so they take his side so it's seen like he's got supporters. As for your comment about Thomas being left out, well, I have to admit to thinking that well yes his responses did seem to come across in the way of hey what about me! I'm the big guy here!. if that is not the case then well all I can say, is that's what I perceived, even before you wrote that so really there's no need to apologise for it. When ever there was this new update for mota, all the fan club would be gathered round saying this and that and the other blab la bla, so yeah when someosomeone else came along who stole that well all I can say is well look at the result. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] going off list
I couldn't agree more. I love your contributions to the list. Amanda -- From: David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] going off list Hello Dark, Today we're talking casualties. We've lost one developer, Thomas. I've seen messages where members have expressed concerns as to whether this situation will also cause Che and Jeremy and maybe others to give up. Let me say that I hope they do not, I enjoy playing their games, either demos or full versions, and think it would be an even greater blow to the blind gaming community if they also went away. That last line can also be applied to you, I would say personally please do not take the actions you have indicated. I saw nothing wrong with the question you asked, I've asked similar, and I do read your messages as I find them both informative, insightful, and in some cases humerous. I'll agree with others that this was not your fault, and if we've lost one for sure, with the possibility of loosing two more maybes, I'd think it would be a much more prefound tragedy if your contributions dimished as a result of this. Dave. On 7/20/11, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi dark, From what I could see I don't think this was anything to do with yourself. The thing is Thomas decided to get all high and mighty and take things way beyond what they should have been. All you did from what I can see is ask a question. Asking questions isn't a crime, Thomas took it as a way to peddle his own bike as it were but the way he did it was totally wrong and he paid the price for it. so no I don't think personally that this has anything to do with you. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 20 July 2011 18:40 To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] going off list Hello Everyone. my intention in trying to find out about programming languages was just that, to gain information. I never intended my questions to lead to this amount of strong emotions from so many people, or this sort of highly personal, unpleasant arguement.. I am only sorry i wasn't able to undo the damage I did on clearly something which was obviously a far more sensative subject than I thought. I would like to say i'm sorry to everyone concerned that I managed to cause this sort of trouble on list. while for reasons of recieving game announcements and producing news on audiogames.net, I cannot legitimately unsubscribe from the list, i will however not be reading any mail that is not directly concerned with a new game release, ie, does not have a subject like Jim kitchin's recent homer announcement. I do not know how long I will need maintain this, but certainly for as long as it takes me to better work out how to show considderation and tact towards others, put my own opinions in a polite and none provocative way and avoid causing offense through enquiries. I will also be seriously! reconsidering whether I am qualified to continue moderating audiogames.net and the entombed mailing list as well. I can only appologise again for causing such a horrible arguement betwene so many of our well established developers. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] Jeremy's incredible programming speed and miscthoughtswas Re: Castaways, 1 week milestone reached!
Hi Dark. That would be a very interesting and fasenating thing to do a PHD on. Good luck with it. Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:28 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jeremy's incredible programming speed and miscthoughtswas Re: Castaways, 1 week milestone reached! Hi Tom. both of these are true, and in fact i'd not thought of stfc myself. Being as I play gamebooks, i obviously come into contact with a lot of people who play games with a text ui only. more of these are being released on platforms like the iphone everyday, and are becoming much more popular, in fact generally I've noticed that as I pod culture has increased, audio as an overall medium is making something of a come back, look at professional audio companies like graphic audio and big finish as examples, and that's not counting the huge number of ameter things out there do. it'd be gret if vi devs could take advantage of this situation, however that won't happen while sighted people refuse to play something sinse they assume it is for the blind! Afterall, in fairness most sighted people couldn't imagine using a computer or reading text without any vision at all, hence why I'm asked so often if I have a braille keyboard and whether that is a normal laptop th0ough this is irritating, it's unfortunately a fact of life, but disabled people won't do anything about it without making some efforts to change things, and having blind devs sell games to sighted people is a good way. When I first went to uni, there was a chap called John who was in most of my lectures and became quite a good friend of mine. it wasn't until I'd known him for about 4 or 5 months that it suddenly turned out he was gay, and in fact i only found out because i met his boyfriend. I'd rather assumed that any gay man would be openly camp in some sort of way, so to find out john, who if anything was quite the opposite of camp with a very sarcastic and abrasive sense of humour, was gay very much changed my perception entirely and made me realize there isn't any sort of over bearing difference betwene someone who was gay and someone streight. The same principle applies here, though even more so, sinse unlike being gay, blind people do! have visible differences which need overcoming, and this is something blind people themselves need to considder in their interactions with people, sinse even if a person is completely unprejudiced, if they've never come into contact with anyone blind, they will at least be surprised. In fact getting people over the waaa! he's blind phase is something I've personally had to practice over a long while, and while it is! quite often irritating, it is a necessity. Btw, this is what the 4th chapter of my phd is on, the social aspect of disability but not merely how society gets in the way of disabled people, also what duties and concerns disabled people have towards others in society in the consciousness that they are disabled. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Now that's a shame you don't have your novels. They could be really interesting grins. I didn't used to be a star treck fan but someone introduced me to it and it's not too bad. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error Hi Dark, Smile. Let's just say I out grew that period of my life. Back when I was a teenager I lived and breathed Star Trek. I watched TNG, DS9, and Voyager every week. The first showing of Voyager's pilot, The Caretaker, was on my birthday none-the-less. I read every single book I could get my blasted hands on at the time. I collected and still have boxes of Star Trek action figures, spaceships, collecter cards, and that sort of thing. At one time I had a lot of that in a display case, but my wife made me box it up as she didn't like me decorating our living room with Star Trek models and toys. :D To top it off my BNS was filled with Star Trek stories I wrote. My first full length novel, yes it was a 500 page novel, was a Star Trek book called Vortex where the crews of the original Enterprise, TNG Enterprise, Defiant, and Voyager all get sucked into a temperal vortex and Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Janeway have to figure outhow to set the time line back in order. Think Q-Squared with a twist. Lol! I wrote a second novel, much shorter, in high school called Debt of Honor which involved Warf and the Klingon civil war. It takes place just following events in Redemption I and Redemption II in the TNG series. The house of Duras attempt to assassinate the chancellor, but the crew of the Enterprise, Warf in particular, stops them at the end of the book. It was probably my best writing. And before anyone asks me to send them my novels unfortunately I can't. I backed them onto 3.5 floppies, which is all I had at the time, and the floppies went bad losing probably two years worth of serious writing. It sucks lemons. Now, days when I think Trek I think of games like STFC. Still serious work, but I am not a Trek nut like I use to be. I'm still interested, but not as interested. HTH On 7/9/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hay tom, you disappoint me, I always think of you as a major startrek buff ;D. Eitherway it's easy to check. I also agree about the torture scene Bryan. it's weerd, there are all sorts of rules on tv about not showing blood guts and violence, but what has always bothered me is seeing people, even if this is simply by being blasted with energy in the good old fashioned Agony beam, thus at 13 I found that just as disturbing as I probably wouldn't done if Zorn was being torgured in a more gorey manner. Such are silly tv execs though. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error
Interesting. If you did manage to write something, I'd read it grins. Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:11 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Startrek tng trivia error Hi Amanda, Tell me about it. I was pretty upset when I tried to copy them to my PC, and found out that the floppies had gone bad. Which the 3.5 floppies were definitely known to do. That was before cd rom burners etc existed and was really the only way to back up stuff. I'm glad there are better ways like thumb drives etc now days. In any case I'm pretty sure I could do a better job on either novel now days. They were written when I was in high school, and I didn't necessarily do a professional job on them. Vortex, especially, wasn't something I'd publish simply because it was, well, a bit warped. What I mean by that is at the time I wrote Vortex I was really having some personal issues in my life. I was angry, upset, and that really came through in that book. It was extremely violent, graphic fight/kill scenes, and there was quite a lot of cussing and swaring I wouldn't necessarily add to the book were I to write it today. Plus sense the time space continuum does get restored at the end of the book I decided to kill whoever whenever which meant some of the fights were pretty gory, and certain characters I didn't like such as Quark from DS9 got killed off in some pretty horrable ways. Lol! Basically, the way I view those books now as practice novels. Something to sharpen my writing skills, something that helped me cope with the situations of the time, and kept me entertained. I don't feel too bad about losing them now, because I know that most writers, professional writers, rarely sell their first book or two, and even if the first book does get published it usually undergoes quite a lot of editing. I look at authors like Patricia Briggs. Now days she is a famous sf/fantasy author, but I've read her first two published works and while they weren't terrible they weren't great either. Her later books like the Mercy Thompson series was great. She's got other books that are pretty good, but some of her early books just lack the style and excitement her later books have. We could say the same for an author like Steven King. Certainly he is a great author, but some of his early books like Carey and Christine weren't that great. At least I didn't like them as well as later novels such as Needful Things, It, The Dark Half, and so on. Steven King is an author I think who has improved with time, and his early works are just his first attempts at breaking into the world of writing. In short, I don't worry about it, because I'm pretty sure they would have to have a good rewrite to be published. Besides that, I've thought about writing different stuff, my own stuff, and perhaps I could electronicly publish something of my own rather than basing it on an existing storyline like Star Trek which would have to be published as fan fic. Cheers! On 7/9/11, Amanda Burt amanda.bu...@btinternet.com wrote: Now that's a shame you don't have your novels. They could be really interesting grins. I didn't used to be a star treck fan but someone introduced me to it and it's not too bad. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] battlezone
This sounds excelent. where do I get this and also the software to run it? Thanks Amanda -- From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:25 AM To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] battlezone Hi Mylos, Here's a description of the game from audiogames.net. Battlezone is one of the first and most major projects undertaken by one of our own forum members using the newly released Blastbay game toolkit One day while piecefully out shopping You are suddenly kidnapped by some mad individual and an endless hoard of very violent employees. Luckily, you have a gun, sword, some exploding booby traps and even an automatic machine gun stashed in your shopping bag (you can't be too careful), so you set about breaking out of the kidnapper's clutches, doing as much damage as possible. Thus begins a fast action, high speed side scrollin adventure taking you from the enemy's lab, past hoards of very angry minians, bottomless pits, stabbing blades, rolling boulders, fireballs, on rushing cars and of course some of this mysterious kidnappers maniacal henchmen as bosses. it's not all bad though, you'll be able to spend your points to replenish supplies, and if your quick enough be able to grab some of the falling items to help you through this parade of nastiness. The game uses ms Sapi to be self voicing and contains a variety of music and sound effects (including many taunts), different ambience for the various levels and non stop action, this is deffinately worth a try, particularly sinse developement is ongoing and new nasties and extra levels are being added continuously (at the current 13 stages, it's already a pretty monstrous game, especially considdering that it's completely free). Just remember that because battlezone was created with the free version of bgt, you'll need that installed on your machine in order to run the game. Hope that helps. best regards, jack --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Hi
Hi Jim. I might just take you up on your offer there as there are so much games to choose from and I'm not quite sure where to start. I'll try to have a look at all the information people have given me and try to go from there. Amanda -- From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 11:01 AM To: Amanda Burt Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi Hi Amanda, Cool, I hope that you find some games that you like. If you have any questions, comments or whatever, please do write or call. BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Hi
Hi Jim. thanks for that. I will go and have a look. Amanda -- From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:56 AM To: Amanda Burt Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi Hi Amanda, Welcome to the list. I hope that you might stop by my web site and check out some of my games. They are all totally free. I have such games as Baseball, BattleShip, Black Jack, Bop It, Concentration, coupling, Craps, Draw Poker, Football, Golf, Hangman, Homer on a Harley, Life, Mach 1 tts, Master Mind, Monopoly, Pong, Puppy1, Roulette, Simon, Skunk, Slot Machine, Snakes and Ladders, Spanker, Star Mule, Triple J Shooter, Trivia game engine, Trucker, Yahtzee Braille reference guide, Brain, Reader, Waver, Batting practice, Golf course maker, monopoly board maker BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry
Ah, that's excelent. At least it gives you a clear idea of what's free or not. Thanks Amanda -- From: Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Amanda Welcome to the list. As for other free games there's Spoonbill Software with free word, card, puzzle games. Tom does have Star Trek Final Conflict which is a freeware title. Jeremy Kaldovsky has some free games as well. Even most commercial games will always have some degree of a playable demo allowing you to get a taste for the game. On the Audiogames site when you search for different game titles it will tell you if the game is freeware, shareware, or strictly commercial. - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Amanda. Welcome to this list. Tom's games you will have to pay for by there is a demo so that you can try before you decide if you'll want to purchase it or not. The only free games that I know of come from Jim Kitchen's web site which is www.kitchensinc.net So enjoy the e-mail list and if you have a question, yell it out and one of us will try to answer it. -Original Message- From: Amanda Burt Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Tom. Is mota a game and do you make it? If it's a game, is it free or do you have to pay for it? I'm sorry if the questions I am asking sound silly. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane hands down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry
Hi Ron. Thanks for that. Amanda -- From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Amanda. Welcome to this list. Tom's games you will have to pay for by there is a demo so that you can try before you decide if you'll want to purchase it or not. The only free games that I know of come from Jim Kitchen's web site which is www.kitchensinc.net So enjoy the e-mail list and if you have a question, yell it out and one of us will try to answer it. -Original Message- From: Amanda Burt Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Tom. Is mota a game and do you make it? If it's a game, is it free or do you have to pay for it? I'm sorry if the questions I am asking sound silly. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane hands down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Hi
Thanks for the welcome Shane. I'm enjoying it so far grins. Amanda -- From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi Hey amanda. I'm Shane Loe. hope you like the list, and good luck ith putting up ith it. smiles. Shane - Original Message - From: Amanda Burt amanda.bu...@btinternet.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Hi Hi. I am a new member. My name is Amanda and I live in Aberdeen in Scotland. I decided to join this list because I know nothing about computer games and I really want to start learning about what games are on offer for blind people. I have found the discussions on the list fascinating and I'm starting to learn things. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry
Goodness. I didn't realise there is so much available. Amanda -- From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry there are many more places to get free stuff. Some of Thomas's games are free, lighttechinteractive.com rsgames.org and that's just off the vary vary top of my head. - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Amanda. Welcome to this list. Tom's games you will have to pay for by there is a demo so that you can try before you decide if you'll want to purchase it or not. The only free games that I know of come from Jim Kitchen's web site which is www.kitchensinc.net So enjoy the e-mail list and if you have a question, yell it out and one of us will try to answer it. -Original Message- From: Amanda Burt Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] an enquiry Hi Tom. Is mota a game and do you make it? If it's a game, is it free or do you have to pay for it? I'm sorry if the questions I am asking sound silly. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane hands down any day of the week. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Hi
Well, hope no one does, big grins, I'll try to be good. Amanda -- From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi lol. noone's yelled at you yet though. jk. - Original Message - From: Amanda Burt amanda.bu...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi Thanks for the welcome Shane. I'm enjoying it so far grins. Amanda -- From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 10:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi Hey amanda. I'm Shane Loe. hope you like the list, and good luck ith putting up ith it. smiles. Shane - Original Message - From: Amanda Burt amanda.bu...@btinternet.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:56 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Hi Hi. I am a new member. My name is Amanda and I live in Aberdeen in Scotland. I decided to join this list because I know nothing about computer games and I really want to start learning about what games are on offer for blind people. I have found the discussions on the list fascinating and I'm starting to learn things. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi. I am a new member. My name is Amanda and I live in Aberdeen in Scotland. I decided to join this list because I know nothing about computer games and I really want to start learning about what games are on offer for blind people. I have found the discussions on the list fascinating and I'm starting to learn things. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Thanks for that information. I will have a look at that. Amanda -- From: fred olver goodfo...@charter.net Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 7:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi Ammanda, go to audiogames.net there you'll find all you could want and probably more. Also for playing online games go to rsgames.org there you will find some games you can play with others online. There is another site called allinplay but not sure of the correct address. Fred, in St. Louis Missouri - Original Message - From: Amanda Burt amanda.bu...@btinternet.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:56 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Hi Hi. I am a new member. My name is Amanda and I live in Aberdeen in Scotland. I decided to join this list because I know nothing about computer games and I really want to start learning about what games are on offer for blind people. I have found the discussions on the list fascinating and I'm starting to learn things. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thanks for that. How do I go about doing that? Thanks Amanda -- From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Hi I agree, Audiogames.net is a great place for audio games. In addition to the games archive, the site has a great forum with a very friendly and active community. I recommend joining it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. Is mota a game and do you make it? If it's a game, is it free or do you have to pay for it? I'm sorry if the questions I am asking sound silly. Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
