neither and besides we probably don't need the full feature set for steam.
since most steam is not worth it we probably don't need most of it.
At 11:36 a.m. 7/10/2012 +0100, you wrote:
more to the point if it's purely a case of it being client based,
then if they allow client development then th
om: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 07 October 2012 11:51
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi Darren,
Agreed. I think it should be possible,in theory at least, for someone
to create a client for Steam that is accessible.
more to the point if it's purely a case of it being client based, then if they
allow client development then that's a way around that.
am not a fan of sewing for every little thing. i think it can create more
problems than it solves.
Sent from my iPad
On 7 Oct 2012, at 11:29, Thomas Ward wro
Hi Darren,
Ahem...I wouldn't say mailing lists are"a blind thing" because a lot
of people use them blind and sighted alike. There has been a trend
towards forums, blogs, and things like that of late, but if you look
around there are lists for just about everything under the sun. I
myself am on a n
Hi Darren.
I disagree on mailing lists being "a blindy thing" sinse I know several
that are completely none vi related, such as the fabled lands and arborell
lists for gamebook discussion both of which I'm on.
While I personally like forums for the same reasons you mentioned (heck I do
adm
I use both.
I don't check forums as often but once a day or twice I do check the
various topics on audiogames.net well the latest anyway.
At 08:09 a.m. 7/10/2012 +0100, you wrote:
hi dark,
i doubt that he'd go for a mailing list. that's very much a blindy
thing to be honest because people ca
hi dark,
i doubt that he'd go for a mailing list. that's very much a blindy thing to be
honest because people can't be bothered to navigate forums. i still think
forums are the best way to go. much easier to control the flow of conversation
etc.
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On 7 Oct 2012, at 00:50, "dar
-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 07 October 2012 00:20
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi Dark,
While I sympathize with your complaints about Steam I can understand
full well why Neils is using Steam. Steam is a digital content
del
Well I have sighted friends on both sides.
the first one is a hard core gamer and is on my radio programs.
He uses steam loads and for the most part likes it except it does
crash on ocation.
Another I have lothes it because of its requiring to continously
update a game before it can even start
Hi.
from looking at their site that is what I gathered, but if niels is going to
continue selling the games through his own site anyway that should be okay.
I'm however a little disappointed that A, we can't support niels'
developement on steam because it's an inaccessible system, and B, that
Hi Dark,
While I sympathize with your complaints about Steam I can understand
full well why Neils is using Steam. Steam is a digital content
delivery system for game developers both commercial and independent
alike created by Valve. Unfortunately, its not the most accessible
software in the world,
bly know a lot more about that side of it than i.
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 06 October 2012 23:50
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi Darrren.
Well i persuaded the steem thingy
Hi Darrren.
Well i persuaded the steem thingy to work, but I can't say I'm impressed. It
seems to be some kind of major gaming promotion service with it's own
software which functions a little like itunes, however just because niels is
obviously advertizing the game there I don't see why it pr
t: 06 October 2012 19:46
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi Darren.
He pretty much indicated to me thathe was starting work on it, and it'll be
in the first patch, so I'm hopefull that won't be long.
perhaps another report to show him tha
, personally I was quite happy witha
propper forum.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi dark,
Did
Hi dark,
Yeah I've noticed the combat issues now. would it help if multiple people
wrote to him?
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 06 October 2012 19:13
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta rel
: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi Darren.
My parents have been hear, and I'vew been out for the day with them, so not
really had time to play, plus, combat is rather impossible at the moment
sinse without special abilities just launching missiles and firing guns
won't do it.
Hi tom.
If smugglers 4 works with win eyes, 5 will other than the icon problem I
mentioned with combat sinse the interface and compatibility mode seem
virtually identical, so i'd advise anyone wondering about s5 to give s4 a
try sinse there the compatibility mode is stable with all labled elem
ion list"
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi dark,
Yes, it would. I've only used Hotspot Clicker sparingly, but there are
times when that program comes in handy. Smugglers is a game where that
tool is really needed for seamless game
ue so I can really get my teeth into the game.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
hi dark,
am glad he will have
: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi dark,
Yes, it would. I've only used Hotspot Clicker sparingly, but there are times
when that program comes in handy. Smugglers is a game where that tool is
really needed for seamless game play.
On 10/5/12, dark wrote:
> Hi alex.
>
> that is
you hit a certain age? Last time certainly in
>> sm3 it didn't take long only a few days play before your character retired
>> lol.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
>> Sent: 05 October
Hi alex.
that is handy to know. Would it help jaws users if I put links to hotspot
clicker on the smugglers 4 page on audiogames.ent (and the smugglers 5 page
when it has one).
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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Hi,
I haven't played the beta myself, but I do have a suggestion that I
found helps considerably with navigation in smugglers 4, so I see no
reason why this wouldn't work with 5.
I found that the hotspot clicker jaws scripts worked very well with 4.
For those who don't know, hotspot clicker is
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From: "Jacob Kruger"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Main issue seems that neither of the screen readers recognises the control
types, aside from reading text with mouse/ja
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From: "dark"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
"screen reader compatibility" means labled text and buttons, not auto
output.
You'll need your screen readers
quot;
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Ok, but, if even the jaws/mouse cursor doesn't seem to recognise control
types - it seems to call what I think must be checkboxes, something like a
group box, h
ork in progress it seems.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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From: "Jacob Kruger"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Ok, silly question is if they've implemented scr
Jacob Kruger
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta rele
You have to use the mouse exclusively
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 05 October 2012 17:31
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Ok, silly question is if they've implem
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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
I've just had a go of it, it seems a lot like four accept there is the
planetary exploration option, which looks great.
The only problem I'm having however is an i
2012 16:02
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi Darren.
I've mailed Niels and he says he'll have a look at the combat icons.
I hope it's fixable, sinse it's a little irritating at the moment
particularly sinse combat looks more c
.
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Well it's worth a shot perhaps, I haven't started playing it yet but I
will
do
lto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: 05 October 2012 14:14
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
I'm not sure Darren.
I remember a similar problem with one of the early s4 betas, but for some
reason I can't find any of the extr
Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
> Sent: 05 October 2012 13:58
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
>
> I've just had a go of it, it seems a lot like four accept there is the
> planetary exploration option, wh
r issue once in s4 in one of the early
betas.
All the best,
dark.
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi dark,
Well it'
t: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
I've just had a go of it, it seems a lot like four accept there is the
planetary exploration option, which looks great.
The only problem I'm having however is an issue in the combat display, with
the buttons for special abilities and the li
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From: "Sarah Haake"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 1:46 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Beta released
Hi,
I just got a newsletter from Nils Bauer games. Smugglers 5 is released as
Beta, and it has a compatibility mode for blind players
Hi,
I just got a newsletter from Nils Bauer games. Smugglers 5 is released as
Beta, and it has a compatibility mode for blind players in it, just like
Smugglers 4. The important part of the message is below.
Smugglers 5 - Beta released !!
I am happy to announce that we have finished the
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