Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-31 Thread shaun everiss
every time I check to get the redist, etc the last version was for 2010 at june some times. Hi Shaun, I'm not quite sure what you mean by DirectX 9 has come to end of life now. The current version of DirectX is still 9.0C. However, individual components have been upgraded such as Direct3D is

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Ahem...That's because that is the latest release. I'm not sure why, but Microsoft hasn't released any updates to DirectX since last summer. That's actually good for us game developers, because it helps people actually catch up and have an actual version to point customers to when using

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-30 Thread The Addictor
...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock Hi Shaun, I'm not quite sure what you mean by DirectX 9 has come to end of life now. The current version of DirectX is still 9.0C. However, individual

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ken, You are probably right. I've seen more changes in APIs etc in the last four than I have in the last 10 from Microsoft. Honestly it makes developing software for newer Windows platforms something of a nightmare as you litterally have to practically relearn everything from scratch. That

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-29 Thread shaun everiss
the trouble with all the dotnet stuff is that if you check all the boxes windows update will load it all for you, directx needs to be got seperately. The only saving grace for it now is that dx9 has come to end of life now. At 03:52 a.m. 28/03/2011, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, as a gamer I

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I'm not quite sure what you mean by DirectX 9 has come to end of life now. The current version of DirectX is still 9.0C. However, individual components have been upgraded such as Direct3D is now v11.0, DirectInput latest is 8.1, XAudio2 has replaced DirectSound, etc but it is still all

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread dark
. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock Hi Dark, Well, that's true to a point. The fact of the matter is most software

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Let's make a destinction here. DirectX and Managed DirectX are not the same thing. Microsoft DirectX, I.E. the DirectX you are talking about, is already a core component of the Windows operating system. The core DirectX 8 libraries ship with XP, Vista, and Win 7 by default. Managed

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread dark
list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock Hi Dark, Let's make a destinction here. DirectX and Managed DirectX are not the same thing. Microsoft DirectX, I.E. the DirectX you are talking about, is already a core component

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Smile. I figured that's what happened. When a developer specifically says Managed DirectX most gamers naturally assume they are talking about the DirectX libraries that ship with Windows. I.E. the core DirectX libraries that most games generally use. For whatever reason Microsoft never

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread Pitermach
history imho. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 12:49 PM Subject: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock While I appreciate from a programmers point of view that you want the latest and best version

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread The Addictor
as Snipe Hunt. Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock I so totally agree with you dark

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-28 Thread Phil Vlasak
list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock Yeah, those Dos pcs games kicked butt. Maybe they are primative compared to some of the stuff that's out now, but nothing compares to, for example the junkyard. I used to spend hours

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, as a gamer I completely understand your point of view on this, but as a developer I see the other side of the issue too. For one thing as a professionally trained programmer I like my work to reflect my skills, education, etc so my personal standards for quality is fairly high.

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-27 Thread dark
Hi Tom. this does make sense in terms of support, though I will say on the net issue sinse there are so many other things thaat need net it's not so bad having it as a dependency (there was one point where almost everything new that came out seemed to, I remember due to the user accounts

Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, that's true to a point. The fact of the matter is most software for Windows now days is being developed around the new Microsoft .Net technologies so .Net is an essential dependency for a lot of new software anyway. That's why Vista ships with .Net Framework 3.0 and Windows 7 now

[Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-25 Thread dark
While I appreciate from a programmers point of view that you want the latest and best version of something available and don't want your old work kicking around, as a player it always strikes me as A, slightly sad, and B, a litle pointless when a game is taken down especially when it had some