Hi Chris,
Thanks for that well written post on the subject. As you said the way
technology is growing and advancing when exactly is the right time to
stop innovating, improving processor speed, updating software with new
features, etc.I've been using computers since the Apple II-E days and
I can
Hello Keith,
We are receiving your posts loud and clear. Hope you get this back.
Cheers!
On 12/11/11, Keith S hea...@mchsi.com wrote:
Sorry about the test messege. Having trouble contacting anything to do with
this listserv.
Hopefully, this gets through.
Thanks and once again, sorry.
Hi Dark,
I know the Greenies game too. I love this idea, especially because I
played the original Lemmings in my childhood.
The problem that I have with this game though is that you have to build
the path while the Greenies are running and this can get rather hectic
sometimes. That's why I
Not sure if anyone's brought this up, but I find the current system makes
chainsaw rather useless. I believe that since it's a melee weapon, it has to
either not break, or break alot less- otherwise, the risk of losing 100 odd rep
using it and losing it is just not worth the time- might as well
Hi Valiant8086,
Thanks for letting me know that.
BFN
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I just checked and NVDA seems to work fine with HJ pad also, just FYI.
Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.14 portable.
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Hi Thomas,
Yeah, you know allot of people just do not like change. Routine is
comfortable. And learning a new way of doing things may not be easy for some.
And then there is that often our access is behind. That is our screen reader
of choice may not support the newest version of an
Hey, I saw someone mention a name of a game call the greenie game.
Well what platform is this for and what kind of game is it?
If someone has a website for this game can you please post it so I can
go check the game out?
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Hi Tom.
I do generally appreciate the point that better applications for doing tasks
like brousing the internet or text editing exist, - certainly I wouldn't
go back to using the old word perfect 4 which i learnt typing on as a
teenager.
However with microsoft it seems quite often they
Michael, the name of the game is greenies escape, and it's for windows.
it was written by Quentin C, the same who wrote the playroom.
There is no website for the game (or at least none in English though there
might be a french one), but you can download it on
No Kieth, i'm afraid your test message never appeared, so I wasn't ever able
to reply to it :d.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:25 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] test,
Hello,
Greenies is an accessible remake of a 90s game called lemmings. Only for
windows. In fact none of my games work outside of windows.
There is no web page describing it, even in french. There is only a
download link pointing to a temporary location:
actually, your info is rong here. the rybons are beeing removed, because
they have taken on the feedback that they aren't liked.
dallas
On 12/12/2011 22:04, dark wrote:
Hi Tom.
I do generally appreciate the point that better applications for doing
tasks like brousing the internet or text
Hi Tom.
My problem with the start menue generally in 7, and indeed most of the
interface, is that it all works contextually.
For the past 12 or so years, I've learnt my way around the insides of
windows by looking at what things are where, and putting things in places
that I can easily find
So if this is the reason we all love windows, why don't microsoft considder
keeping it so?
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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Subject: Re:
hMMMHmmm dallas, that's more than I've heard as yet. I thought windows 8
stil had them, though I might be wrong.
If so, I'm glad and hope microsoft go back to something more logical.
Beware the grue!
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because holding backwards compatibilyt for to long makes things
unstable. and besides, the newer codes can do more, and take less power
out of the system anyway.
dallas
On 12/12/2011 22:24, dark wrote:
So if this is the reason we all love windows, why don't microsoft
considder keeping it so?
yeah, they are getting rid of them, cause people really don't like them.
so yes, they do listen. but removing something sometimes is harder then
putting it in, without messing something up.
so its taken them a bit.
dallas
On 12/12/2011 22:29, dark wrote:
hMMMHmmm dallas, that's more than I've
As far as change. You have to have it or stuff don't get done. People
get lazy doing the same old stuff, and when something comes out that
makes something better to use or at least lets us use it in a normal
fashion. Progress moves even faster. We use to have to wait until the
first or second
Hi dark,
For the problem you mention with windows 7 start menu, there is a good
solution:
there is a small program called classic start menu. You will easily find
it on google.
This program is very light, and replace the crappy mmixed up windows 7
start menu with a classic start menu like W98
I don't know about anyone else, but my hype for this game just increased by
about 10. This article, compared with the awesome gameplay footage from tgs, is
making me very excited... I've never sceen DOA as a technical or deep fighter,
and compared to other games this looks to be the same, but
The next move for screen readers should be touch. Apple already makes
use of this and I use it a lot. i go through twice as much email as i
can with jaws and lets not forget moving around on the computer with
just my finger and no spoken commands. The games that can be explored
by touch are
Hi Jim,
Sure. Access is always a serious consideration. For us upgrading an
operating system often requires purchasing one or more upgrades of our
screen reader in order to get equal access to what a sighted user has
access to just because he/she can see what's presented on the screen
without any
Well if you don't let how it rearranges things. Go into the setting
and change it. They call that customizing. I do it for ever op I use.
known of my ops look or feel like basic. If more people went in the
setting and tweaked what they need. Half of the questions asked how
to do this.. Would
When I say move away, I mean to back up and make the zombies
leave the loot so that you can here them better. I in no way
meant to say that somebody should leave the loot.
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Frankly dallas where games are concerned, I couldn't give a monkies how good
the newer codes are.
As I said, I don't really care about how powerful or anything else a system
is, I care about what I can do with it.
That's why i stil have a snes, sinse I can play all the game i rather like
on
Thanks quentin,
It's good to know that someone! in the open source community has thought the
same and won't accept what microsoft give out.
Certainly when I do have to get windows 7 I'll have a look for that program.
i've heard of classic shell before, but I don't think that covers the start
actually, the better codes, = better gaming possibilities. so yes, it
makes a different.
dallas
On 12/12/2011 23:13, dark wrote:
Frankly dallas where games are concerned, I couldn't give a monkies
how good the newer codes are.
As I said, I don't really care about how powerful or anything
You bring up a good point about it breaking. I think I'll tweak it a bit to
see if I can make it more useful.
Not sure if anyone's brought this up,
but I find the current system makes chainsaw rather useless.
I believe that since it's a melee weapon, it has to either
not break, or break
Like how you put the below. Now if you could get those useless brick
heads at freedom Scientific to do the same with rebuilt jaws, and not
just slip the new code into the old junk. Even there scripts need a
total rework. There are scripts used for program that have not
changed sense written
They did that option and called it vista! Now if you don't have max
ram and high CPU it runs like a brick! Remove the old outdated junk
and you got win7 or even 8.
At 08:13 AM 12/12/2011, you wrote:
Frankly dallas where games are concerned, I couldn't give a monkies
how good the newer codes
Hi dark.
Microsoft only invests development time where they stand to gain or
lose money. For the most part, even dropping support for vb was based
on the fact that they were forcing developers to switch to vb.net so
they could sell them a new set of development tools. The basic
programming syntax
So here's a bit more on the series... This video is from dOA 4, and shows off
one of my personal favorites. I love this character.. he fights with a cool
style, and in Ninja Gaiden he's awesome as always.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-394ImSWig
I don't understand why DOA 5 reverts back to
Hi.
It's easy to turn off the most recently used programs from displaying in
the start menu, just as it is easy to turn that off in windows xp
without needing to switch it to the classic start menu which I don't
like by the way. I like xp's default start menu with the most recent
programs
I'm not sure how much that applies to indi devs there dallas, sinse most
indi devs don't have the huge amounts of cash necessary for massive graphics
or sound, that the new code likely supports if it's intended to make games
of todays' 3D standard.
pluss as I said, it doesn't solve the
Agreed William, this is just what I mean.
As far as I've ever found out microsoft is frankly just concerned with their
bank balance and don't give a dam about their customers accept as a
statistic.
And lets not get on to their production methods, what they pay the people
who actually
Hey, All.
I was wondering what augmented games out there that are accessible for
the blind?
You may ask what is a augmented game well here is what it is.
Games like Dimensions adventures in the multiverse, Inception, and of
course the new game that will be out soon Zombies run.
These games are
As I said valliant, I just don't like relying on a search box, I prefer to
physically go and put things in different places.
Also, the expanded thing was irritating in the explorer for windows 7, I
personally prefer just hitting enter on a folder to see what's inside it,
though again this is
Hi Folks,
David Greenwood just answered a question about what will be in Lone Wolf 4.
From David:
My plans have exceeded that original document, which was primarily all the
new parser commands, and if you remember, there is a whole bunch. This is
great for developing more complex missions, and
Hi.
You can still go and put things in different places. I do myself. But
you really don't have to use anything but the search box most of the
time. Even I could admit when I first tried Vista that even though I was
absolutely fantastic with the xp start menu hitting p for programs then
g for
To drag this thread back on topic, I've posted an inquiry to the GMA list
asking David for a list of feature changes and new features in LW 4. The
biggest thing I remember is a major overhaul of the mission writing part of
the game to add much more intelligence to the enemy and friendly ships.
Sort of like paying for a whole bunch of benefits that are provided by a
hotel that you won't be using, in case you did want to use them. That part
I understand. But building a new one every 2 years or so and, after a time,
closing the older one that is more popular and that no longer has
And now we have to use a system of ribbons instead of pulldown menus.
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If the ribbons are going to be removed, and if the traditional menus that
are accessible to everyone return, that feature alone might make me want to
switch.
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I was wondering about the minigun. Right now, t is a bracing/unbracing
key, but what if it doesn't need to be braced but spun, like in most
games, so t starts it spinning, and it's only ready to fire when spun,
rather like the chainsaw.
This would be more in keeping with true miniguns.
Sined:
I don't think we should know what's in there. A much better, although
perhaps overstated, solution to the friends trouble is to just enable
giving stuff to people. That way if you're like my friend who has over
1200 7.62 and over 2000 other ammo, he could share his wealth rather
than only getting
We all appreciate that you're busy. Nobody, I think, could hold a
tremendously busy schedule against you. I know I don't.
Signed:
Dakotah Rickard
On 12/12/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote:
Well I spent all week at work, planning ahead for everything I was going to
code once the
I was wonndering:
in which situations the shotgun is useful?
It's because i have the impression that it is not very accurate.
Or it's me who is not accurate but I do kind of well with a pistol.
I think it would be nice a file with the description of all ammo and
their upgrades like scope etc.
Hi Thomas,
I don't want to judge anyone.
But there is a difference here.
Fine if MS wants to remove VB 6 support. It is a developer's job to do
something about a programs compatibility.
But what should someone do as an end user?
It is not my fault if a program screams about missing DLLs...
OK,
Hi Thomas,
I personally are also not against new technologies or new features in future
Windows operating systems or other programs.
But I'd like to adress a few points as well.
If a company wants to improove their software, then this is often good for
all users and not because security might
Yea...
But what do you do about the classic games?
Surely, there are still many people in the world who want to use the old
games.
But running an outdated operating system like Windows 95 or older on modern
PCs isn't an option when the os doesn't get along with your hardware due to
a lack of
Hi Thomas,
Yes, windows programs get new features and yes, it is up to you to decide if
you want to use them or not...
But let me ask you something just as an example.
Do you know what the difference between Windows Movie Maker and Windows Live
Movie Maker is?
As far as I am informed the
Hi Charles,
The problem is that trying to maintain old software uses up a lot of
resources and becomes very expensive. It is almost impossible to
create bug-free software without expending huge amounts of software.
NASA, for example, spends billions of dollars and countless months of
testing to
Hi Dark,
Again, I really think you're misrepresenting Microsoft here. Microsoft
actually spends a huge amount of resources supporting older products.
For example, one of the reasons Windows Vista was delayed as much as
it was is because MS temporarily stopped its development in order to
fix major
Hi Phil.
Good to know, especially the extra sounds and the thought of modifying
weaponry to let you have different eras of submarine warfare in the game.
Do you know if David has plans to allow the game to have missions with
tripple didgits? I know there are 92 missions currently, but I
Hi Valiant.
In fairness I have only tried windows 7 on someone else's system not my own,
so haven't had chance to deal with the search box.
As I said though, for me it's really because I'd rather see where things are
and physically go and pick them up and put down, rather than trust an
Ok, here's my impression of things with respect to various weapons.
Pistol, weapon of last resort unless you have a silencer. The normal pistol
does the least damage per round and has the shortest range. I'm not sure
how to describe range in terms of the sounds you hear, but I know that if I
am
Hi Alex.
But if microsoft care so much about customers, why don't they have any
options to extend backwards compatibility of products? for instance a
licenced microsoft virtual machine?
Frankly, the reason they had to extend xp support is simply because vista
was buggy as heck for several
Hi Dark,
Before you make that argument, you should probably do a bit of
research. Windows 7 includes Windows XP mode, which is a licensed,
virtual copy of Windows XP. This should solve any problems with
software compatibility that might exist between the two operating
systems.
To answer your
Much of that is really easy to get though, movie maker and
pinball in particular. The windows 7 volume control is (in my
opinion) far superior to win xp, as it lets you change the volume
of all your gprograms indevidually.
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Of course, there are people who still use 98 today, myself being
one of them. As a matter of fact, when my win 7 machine crashed
a while back, it took me well under an hour to be able to do all
of my mandatory things on 98. The only thing I really had to do
was dig up some flash drivers, and
As far as wifi goes, win7 connects in five seconds flat. This is
quite a lot faster than even a high-end xp laptop, which took
around 30.
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I've got more than 99. After the number, there is a letter. 99A, 99B, and
so on. If anyone wants all of them, send me a request, off list, and I'll
see about getting them to you. This is to not clutter the list with
requests. Requests sent to the list will be totally ignored, and the
Another thing about new technology--Microsoft's Windows in particular: I
buy a computer to do tasks, not to run the operating system. If I have to
buy a new PC because my old one doesn't have enough CPU power, it can't be
loaded with enough RAM, the hardware isn't supported by the new OS, and
Problem with xp mode is that it only works on win7 pro or
ultimate, no home premium users, which is most of what (at least
as far as I know) is being sold in computer shops, using Best BUy
Buy as my basis.
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Hi Charles,
While this has een brue in the past, Windows 7 used fewer system
resources than did Vista, and Windows 8 will use even fewer, as it is
being designed to run on tablets and even phones as well as PC's.
No one is saying you must upgrade to new technology. However, as
previously
I recently picked up a message off of the GMA list, regarding the
new time of conflict version, and thought I'd pass it on. I've
pasted the message from David below:
Time of Conflict is working out to be a major project. Here are
just some of the new things that have been implemented:
*
(Note - it appears that this thread has gone into the weeds and is no
longer really relevant to the topic of audio gaming...)
FYI Alex, it's pretty much inconceivable to me that your assertion is
true; an old Pentium with 256 MB of ram should be able to handle
ridiculously complex multi-channel
Here are 2 podcasts that I posted on twitter about the game from a blindness
perspective.
It's very importent that you listen to them in order to understand the game.
The download links for the 2 files are below.
1.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nmuwja
2.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wak64n
The real life volcan minigun does need to be braced again user's
chest/stomach to be fired- when not mounted on anything.
But yeah, in most games you don't have to brace it at all.
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At 01:26 PM 12/12/2011, you wrote:
Another thing about new technology--Microsoft's Windows in
particular: I buy a computer to do tasks, not to run the operating
system. If I have to buy a new PC because my old one doesn't have
enough CPU power,
I like silent killing, so I tend to snipe with either rifle and when things
get close, I find my range with silenced pistol, then once I hit it once
with pistol, I switch either to assault rifle or one of the shotguns to
bring it down fast.
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can we play the games you mention on iPhone?
or IOS?
On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:37 PM, michael barnes wrote:
Hey, All.
I was wondering what augmented games out there that are accessible for the
blind?
You may ask what is a augmented game well here is what it is.
Games like Dimensions adventures
If we must upgrade in order to play the newer games, shouldn't we also be
able to enjoy the games we've already spent money on?
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Very well written and informative! I enjoyed this.
Ok, here's my impression of things
with respect to various weapons.
Pistol, weapon of last resort unless you have a
silencer. The normal pistol
does the least damage per round and has the shortest
range. I'm not sure
how to describe
Hi Charles,
Yes, we should. Fortunately, even after VB support is removed from
Windows, which won't be for several years at least, solutions such as
virtual machines can still be used to play older games.
On 12/12/11, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
If we must upgrade in order to play
Your post reminded me of the file I uploaded last night. For those who might
not know, the game's map editor is terribly inaccessible. Because a few people
have asked for it and seem to have some sighted friends or relatives to help
them use it, I took a few minutes to zip it up along with 2
Hi Charles.
I'm quite happy with davy jones locker :d.
Actually it would be good if there is an archive of these somewhere
publically available, sinse gma only have up to 92, and indeed I didn't
think there were more missions.
If Tom or someone else was willing to host them, I'd be very glad
And you do sort of have to run the operating system to, what was your
expression, do tasks. Smile.
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
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Wow John.
This is way more than I expected would be in the game, I knew he was making
more units and multiplayer, but the other stuff is amazing! it sounds like
time of conflict will end up as more than just a modern warfare sim, it'll
end up as a platform for all sorts of sim games too,
My point is that the main purpose of a computer is not to run the operating
system, and we should not keep having to upgrade to keep up with modern
technology in the form of a new operating system. Do you have to keep
buying new cars because the engine requires it? There was a lot of flak
Hi Dark,
That should be an easy fix, adding three digits to the mission number for
Lone Wolf is something I am sure he has been aware of.
Phil
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I haven't beaten all 17 originals, either, but the others are just as much
fun and challenging, if not more so. All of these are not available from
the GMA site.
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Guess I'll need to dust off my toc skills and ask for a key replacement
then... Wow. 2012 is looking to so totally be full of releases like PH,
zero sight, and now this thing.
On 12/12/2011 8:41 PM, dark wrote:
Wow John.
This is way more than I expected would be in the game, I knew he was
The difference between this situation and the digital TV one is that
in the case of digital TV, all transmissions had to switch from analog
to digital immediately. In the case of VB, Microsoft deprecated it
about ten years ago. And Vb games will still continue to run at least
until the version of
And certainly, yours is the only set of needs that matter.
Chris Bartlett
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Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:26 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey]
Are we also going to have an accessible map editor? I do think it'd be a
good idea, reminds me how I played around with Agrip's Quake map maker.
I even thought I lost my map which I made, only to discover it
circulating on a very busy server. Good times indeed.
On 12/12/2011 8:36 PM, Jeremy
Hi Charles.
They sound awsome though, as I said, perhaps a zip of them hosted somewhere
would be helpful, afterall, the mission files themselves are rather small.
Beware the grue!
dark.
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yeah, TOC is already amazing as is, with more coming.
It is going to not only be a great strategy game out of the box, but
the best thing in my opinion is it is going to be a killer game
construction kit for those willing to take the time.
I've already created a couple of custom setups
one thing i would also like to point out, is that the mp5, does not use
45 ammo. it uses 9 mill. put an 11.5 mill round in an mp5, and it would
jam / explode.
thats if you could even squeeze one of that size in.
all the other weapons are corect in the ammo types, just not the mp5.
dallas
On
Hardly. There are quite a few who agree.
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Should we listen in any particular order? Thanks.
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Hi Che.
I agree. I've always wanted to construct a full and detailed campeign based
around the final war of the ring, going from skirmish and delaying raides in
Ithilian, to the retreat across Osgilliath, and finally the major battles
such as the battle of the Horn berg and of course Pelenor
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Very well said, che, as always.
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Hi.
Microsoft does have a licensed virtual machine. I think you have to have
Win7 ultimate to get it though.
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On 12/12/2011 12:42 PM, dark wrote:
Hi Alex.
But if microsoft care so much about customers, why don't they have any
options to extend backwards
Hi.
Can you tell us how to get the pinball game we're used to seeing on xp
running under 7?
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On 12/12/2011 1:04 PM, john wrote:
Much of that is really easy to get though, movie maker and pinball in
particular. The windows 7 volume control is (in my
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