Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-12-01 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark,
Good question. I know some voices such as the Cepstral voices have a 
lexicon.txt file which you can edit with notepad in order to change 
how the cepstral voices handles various words and abbreviations. Other 
voices apparently aren't so accommodating or customizable in that way.


dark wrote:
I probably don't need to say it,  but Hal has a dictionary too 
(surprised eh?).


the only problem is as Jim's said,  where is sapi's dictionary! 
this gets on my wick extremely when I'm playing a mud, and is often 
the reason I prefer to actually use non-self-voicing If interpreters 
with hal, rather than self-voicing ones with sapi.


Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-12-01 Thread dark
Well Tom, if you knew where I could find such a dictionary for scansoft 
daniel I'd appreciate knowing,  sinse that's the voice I use for all 
sapi things, and it seems far worse at missspeaking abbreviations than any 
other voice I've heard,  which is a shame, sinse I like it's actual 
speech quality a lot.


I know where to find the dictionaries for both Sam, (hal's synth interface), 
and orphius itself,  though I've very rarely had to use them sinse both 
have good standard pronunciation,  sam's dictionary is even loaded with 
nice bits of trivia, so by default it pronounces some names like hermione 
properly.


i have no idea where either Sapi's or daniels dictionaries are though,   
even if they exist.


I don't know why Scansoft (and probably other synth manufacturers by the 
sound of it), load them down with so many pre-defined acronyms,  sinse 
their something which is so very variable!


The only ones which seem reasonable to me are mr. and mrs,  and even 
then, I've played a fair few rp games that use mr as melee rating.


Then, there are the times that you don't actually want an acronym spoken at 
all sinse everyone just uses it in the short form.


For example, take the designation hms used for British navy ships.

Yes, it officially stands for her magisty's,  but nobody in England (or 
indeed anywhere else), would actually refer to a ship as something like the 
Her magisty's victory.


Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Hi Dark,
Good question. I know some voices such as the Cepstral voices have a 
lexicon.txt file which you can edit with notepad in order to change how 
the cepstral voices handles various words and abbreviations. Other voices 
apparently aren't so accommodating or customizable in that way.


dark wrote:
I probably don't need to say it,  but Hal has a dictionary too 
(surprised eh?).


the only problem is as Jim's said,  where is sapi's dictionary! this 
gets on my wick extremely when I'm playing a mud, and is often the reason 
I prefer to actually use non-self-voicing If interpreters with hal, 
rather than self-voicing ones with sapi.


Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

Just found that Microsoft Mary, Mike and Sam all say you may playt eh markit if you 
own stock,  but you dnt!  I have to say that it is probably all my fault.  
Left out the apostrophe in don't.  I never caught that because I always buy stock.  Sure 
do miss out on allot of cash if you don't.  You know like the gold, oil and the possible 
cash made when you play the stock.

Pretty funny though about the dnt.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

Yeah, I have never been able to find sapi5 voice dictionary's.  Really haven't 
found anything but rate and volume.  Sure would be cool if they had some of the 
stuff that you can do with the DecTalk32 software version.  But truthfully I am 
just so happy that my computer can talk with a realistic sounding female voice. 
 I listened to the Accent SA for years, then the Double Talk and then the 
Eloquence female voices.  I do though use a USB Triple Talk synthesizer on my 
game development computer.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Well i usually do buy stock if I can,  but sometimes,  as happened 
with my friends, i just didn't land on the right square for that.


We've actually had far more fun out of the phrase but you daaant! than we 
could possibly have got if you'd added the apostropphy Jim,  so never 
mind,  actually, now that I play with realspeak daniel, i almost miss 
Sam,  almost but not quite!


Afterall, you might not have as much fun if you missed sam,  but you 
dnt! ;D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Hi Dark,

Just found that Microsoft Mary, Mike and Sam all say you may playt eh 
markit if you own stock,  but you dnt!  I have to say that it is 
probably all my fault.  Left out the apostrophe in don't.  I never caught 
that because I always buy stock.  Sure do miss out on allot of cash if you 
don't.  You know like the gold, oil and the possible cash made when you 
play the stock.


Pretty funny though about the dnt.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark

Hi Jim.

Well, i was never around in the really! early days, but remembering the 
appolo external speech box with orphius I had with Hal v3,  I sometimes 
feel I have no right to complain these days about synths!


And don't get me started on the way talking calculators or thermometres used 
to sound.


I stil remember one in a science lesson saying the air temperature was 
twenty twuuu diggennees c! ;D.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Hi Dark,

Yeah, I have never been able to find sapi5 voice dictionary's.  Really 
haven't found anything but rate and volume.  Sure would be cool if they 
had some of the stuff that you can do with the DecTalk32 software version. 
But truthfully I am just so happy that my computer can talk with a 
realistic sounding female voice.  I listened to the Accent SA for years, 
then the Double Talk and then the Eloquence female voices.  I do though 
use a USB Triple Talk synthesizer on my game development computer.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward


Hi Jim,
Yeah, ATT Charles is a pretty good voice. I also like Lorn, but haven't 
gotten around to purchasing that voice yet. Perhaps when I get Lorn I 
might begin using her in games as I think it might end some of the 
controversy over Karen.


Jim Kitchen wrote:

Hi Thomas,

I know one gentleman that says that he likes the Sam voice.  Of course 
he kind of sounds like Sam himself. grin


I like Crystal for Email, Lauren and Charles for games.  But do use 
Kate and other voices now and then.  And of course Kate is on the Book 
Sense.  But I even like Anjali now and then just for fun.


BTW One needs to be careful when programming for sapi5, I have found 
over 250 acronyms that one or more of the voices say.  You know like 
Crystal will say laughing out loud for LOL, By the way for BTW etc.  
Some will say liter for Lt. and others will say lieutenant.  Some will 
say street for ST. and others will say saint.  Just have to watch 
stuff like that. grin


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Bryan Peterson
I particularly liked how during your BG Hearts podcast it said that your 
game had been ray zumed.

Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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My most amusing sam moment was when I was in the shower in colidge,   
and my friends turned up unexpectedly early.


Not wanting to rush my shower, I then yelled instructions through the door 
for my friends to run game of life, and we played it while I showered.


I stil remember the fits of laughter we Had, when booming through the 
bathroom door loud  but not clear, over the sound of the shower spray 
was you may playt eh markit if you own stock,  but you dnt!


In fact with my friends the phrase but you daaant! became a bit of an in 
joke.


Needless to say, when my install issue for Mike and mary was fixed I was 
very pleased indeed,  and when I acquired realspeak daniel later 
on,  I was thrilled!


While I did use microsoft sam for about six months of game playing in 
2006,  I think going back to it would be a real torment!


Now you may disagree with me if you like sam,  but you dnt!

grin!

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark

Yep,  he's a mean old man,  that ray zumed!

His french son, --- onry zumed isn't particularly nice either!

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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I particularly liked how during your BG Hearts podcast it said that your 
game had been ray zumed.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?

Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


My most amusing sam moment was when I was in the shower in colidge,   
and my friends turned up unexpectedly early.


Not wanting to rush my shower, I then yelled instructions through the 
door for my friends to run game of life, and we played it while I 
showered.


I stil remember the fits of laughter we Had, when booming through the 
bathroom door loud  but not clear, over the sound of the shower spray 
was you may playt eh markit if you own stock,  but you dnt!


In fact with my friends the phrase but you daaant! became a bit of an 
in joke.


Needless to say, when my install issue for Mike and mary was fixed I was 
very pleased indeed,  and when I acquired realspeak daniel later 
on,  I was thrilled!


While I did use microsoft sam for about six months of game playing in 
2006,  I think going back to it would be a real torment!


Now you may disagree with me if you like sam,  but you dnt!

grin!

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread peter Mahach

lol lol lol. and let's not forget the speak and spell...
thomas, yes, lawren is fairly decent. to be honest I'm ok with any voice 
from any company, but caren doesn't just sound like the voice I'd want to 
hear all day lol
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Hi Dark,

Yeah, I have never been able to find sapi5 voice dictionary's.  Really 
haven't found anything but rate and volume.  Sure would be cool if they 
had some of the stuff that you can do with the DecTalk32 software version. 
But truthfully I am just so happy that my computer can talk with a 
realistic sounding female voice.  I listened to the Accent SA for years, 
then the Double Talk and then the Eloquence female voices.  I do though 
use a USB Triple Talk synthesizer on my game development computer.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Dark and Jim,
Been there done that as they say. I've played several text games  and it 
drives me nuts when you get a character like Dr. Watson and it says 
Drive Watson instead of Doctor Watson. You might be playing some roll 
playing game or mud set in medieval times and it says street instead of 
saint. It is frustrating, but can be fixed in Window Eyes and Jaws by 
using the exception dictionaries.


dark wrote:
I've noticed realspeak daniel has far more trouble with that than 
orphius,  or indeed sapi does.


It's rather irritating actually to play a mud and have st read as 
street, or ms as manuscript.


I've tried to find daniel's dictionary to fix this,  but have had 
no luck so far..


That's again one reason I like orphius but as Jim said in an earlier 
post,  i am very familiar with it.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark
I probably don't need to say it,  but Hal has a dictionary too 
(surprised eh?).


the only problem is as Jim's said,  where is sapi's dictionary! this 
gets on my wick extremely when I'm playing a mud, and is often the reason I 
prefer to actually use non-self-voicing If interpreters with hal, rather 
than self-voicing ones with sapi.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
I always buy stock even if I can't.
especially if I have unlucky roles early on in the game.
At 02:54 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote:
Well i usually do buy stock if I can,  but sometimes,  as happened 
with my friends, i just didn't land on the right square for that.

We've actually had far more fun out of the phrase but you daaant! than we 
could possibly have got if you'd added the apostropphy Jim,  so never 
mind,  actually, now that I play with realspeak daniel, i almost miss Sam, 
 almost but not quite!

Afterall, you might not have as much fun if you missed sam,  but you 
dnt! ;D.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


Hi Dark,

Just found that Microsoft Mary, Mike and Sam all say you may playt eh markit 
if you own stock,  but you dnt!  I have to say that it is probably 
all my fault.  Left out the apostrophe in don't.  I never caught that because 
I always buy stock.  Sure do miss out on allot of cash if you don't.  You 
know like the gold, oil and the possible cash made when you play the stock.

Pretty funny though about the dnt.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread peter Mahach
o no not her! I just hate that voice! it has little to no intonation if you 
ask me. and no I haven't listened yet.
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Was wondering about that, just wasn't completely sure; something sounded
just slightly off.
Best regards,
Hayden

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It was Karen.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?

Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Hi Thomas,

All I can say sis.wow. That was extraordinary. Two things though. 
Firstly,
there was a sound I heard when you picked something up that sounded like 
a
weapon; is that a secret, or can you tell me what that was? Secondly, 
what

voice is that? It sound reminiscent of Karyn, but not quite.

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Hayden Presley
Grin. You don't like Karyn? Personally, I preferred Heather for MOTA.
Best Regards,
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o no not her! I just hate that voice! it has little to no intonation if you 
ask me. and no I haven't listened yet.
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 Was wondering about that, just wasn't completely sure; something sounded
 just slightly off.
 Best regards,
 Hayden

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 It was Karen.
 Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
 pizza?
 Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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 Hi Thomas,

 All I can say sis.wow. That was extraordinary. Two things though. 
 Firstly,
 there was a sound I heard when you picked something up that sounded like 
 a
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 what
 voice is that? It sound reminiscent of Karyn, but not quite.

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread peter Mahach
nods, me too. anything is better than caren. heck  I can even cope with sam 
rofl
though if I were thomas I'd either stick to heather or use another voice 
like neospeech kate just like in the old days.
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Grin. You don't like Karyn? Personally, I preferred Heather for MOTA.
Best Regards,
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o no not her! I just hate that voice! it has little to no intonation if 
you

ask me. and no I haven't listened yet.
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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
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Was wondering about that, just wasn't completely sure; something sounded
just slightly off.
Best regards,
Hayden

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It was Karen.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Hi Thomas,

All I can say sis.wow. That was extraordinary. Two things though.
Firstly,
there was a sound I heard when you picked something up that sounded like
a
weapon; is that a secret, or can you tell me what that was? Secondly,
what
voice is that? It sound reminiscent of Karyn, but not quite.

Best Regards,

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Peter,
Personally, I have always felt that Scansoft Karen is the best voice for 
the Windows operating system that is currently available. It is based on 
a well known singer and voice actress, Karen Jacobson, who has become 
world famous for her voice. Obviously the TTS Engine falls short of her 
actual voice, but the TTS Engine is close enough for her fans. Since I 
could not realistically hire her for the game using the TTS Engine is 
the next best thing.
I would challenge you to find a better female voice for the game. i've 
tried several voices ATT Crystal, Neospeech Kate, various Cepstral 
voices, and none lived up to my expectations. ATT Lorn isn't bad, but I 
don't actually own it thus can't use it.


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o no not her! I just hate that voice! it has little to no intonation 
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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Peter,
You have got to be kidding me. Microsoft Sam is like the absolute worst 
voice I've heard for the computer. If I was going to have my customers 
suffer through the torment of listening to it I might have just put Sapi 
5 support into the Genesis Engine, and be done with it.
As far as why I actually switched from Heather to Karen it is a simple 
matter of the fact Heather has a bad problem with pronunciation. I can 
give her a word like centaur and Heather totally screws it up, and then 
I have to fiddle around with the spelling until Heather comes remotely 
close to saying it correctly. It's not just uncommon words either. I've 
had Heather say a word like control or enter correctly one minute and 
then  in the next say it completely different. I think you could 
understand why and how that would drive me completely mad.
As far as my selection of game voice goes nothing I choose will please 
everybody. The only solution would be to add Sapi support into the 
Genesis Engine. However, not only is it somewhat problematic you have to 
consider the fact it could take a couple of solid weeks to rewrite all 
of the speech functions etc to completely convert it over to Sapi.
So if you have a better option than Karen please let me know. I have 
Neospeech Kate, but I'd rather not use it for this game. So how about 
some options?


peter Mahach wrote:
nods, me too. anything is better than caren. heck  I can even cope 
with sam rofl
though if I were thomas I'd either stick to heather or use another 
voice like neospeech kate just like in the old days.



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once created 
a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo of the Dectalk 
synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide and blew up the 
computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an announcement along the lines 
of Sam went nuts and killed himself and the computer and now you're screwed. 
Then Dectalk sang Taps in a rudementary doo doo doo fashion. So no, I 
wouldn't use Sam in games.

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Hi Peter,
You have got to be kidding me. Microsoft Sam is like the absolute worst 
voice I've heard for the computer. If I was going to have my customers 
suffer through the torment of listening to it I might have just put Sapi 5 
support into the Genesis Engine, and be done with it.
As far as why I actually switched from Heather to Karen it is a simple 
matter of the fact Heather has a bad problem with pronunciation. I can 
give her a word like centaur and Heather totally screws it up, and then I 
have to fiddle around with the spelling until Heather comes remotely close 
to saying it correctly. It's not just uncommon words either. I've had 
Heather say a word like control or enter correctly one minute and then  in 
the next say it completely different. I think you could understand why and 
how that would drive me completely mad.
As far as my selection of game voice goes nothing I choose will please 
everybody. The only solution would be to add Sapi support into the Genesis 
Engine. However, not only is it somewhat problematic you have to consider 
the fact it could take a couple of solid weeks to rewrite all of the 
speech functions etc to completely convert it over to Sapi.
So if you have a better option than Karen please let me know. I have 
Neospeech Kate, but I'd rather not use it for this game. So how about some 
options?


peter Mahach wrote:
nods, me too. anything is better than caren. heck  I can even cope with 
sam rofl
though if I were thomas I'd either stick to heather or use another voice 
like neospeech kate just like in the old days.



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Bryan,

Lol! That would have been a riet to hear. Do you sstill have it?

Bryan Peterson wrote:
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once 
created a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo 
of the Dectalk synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide 
and blew up the computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an 
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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Hayden Presley
That'd be funny at the least, and insanely hilarious at best.

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Hi Bryan,

Lol! That would have been a riet to hear. Do you sstill have it?

Bryan Peterson wrote:
 LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once 
 created a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo 
 of the Dectalk synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide 
 and blew up the computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an 
 announcement along the lines of Sam went nuts and killed himself and 
 the computer and now you're screwed. Then Dectalk sang Taps in a 
 rudementary doo doo doo fashion. So no, I wouldn't use Sam in games.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
Regrettably no since I forgot to retrieve it before my old laptop died, but 
a close friend of mine featured it on her podcast so I could still download 
it. That's one reason I'd like to start my own web site but can't afford to 
buy a domaine and I'm not really knowledgeable enough yet to start that sort 
of project since for one thing I don't know html.

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Hi Bryan,

Lol! That would have been a riet to hear. Do you sstill have it?

Bryan Peterson wrote:
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once 
created a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo of 
the Dectalk synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide and blew 
up the computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an announcement along 
the lines of Sam went nuts and killed himself and the computer and now 
you're screwed. Then Dectalk sang Taps in a rudementary doo doo doo 
fashion. So no, I wouldn't use Sam in games.



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Hayden Presley
If I had to use Sam, I'd die. Plus, MOTA would come off of my games to buy
list. grin
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:20 PM
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Hi Peter,
You have got to be kidding me. Microsoft Sam is like the absolute worst 
voice I've heard for the computer. If I was going to have my customers 
suffer through the torment of listening to it I might have just put Sapi 
5 support into the Genesis Engine, and be done with it.
As far as why I actually switched from Heather to Karen it is a simple 
matter of the fact Heather has a bad problem with pronunciation. I can 
give her a word like centaur and Heather totally screws it up, and then 
I have to fiddle around with the spelling until Heather comes remotely 
close to saying it correctly. It's not just uncommon words either. I've 
had Heather say a word like control or enter correctly one minute and 
then  in the next say it completely different. I think you could 
understand why and how that would drive me completely mad.
As far as my selection of game voice goes nothing I choose will please 
everybody. The only solution would be to add Sapi support into the 
Genesis Engine. However, not only is it somewhat problematic you have to 
consider the fact it could take a couple of solid weeks to rewrite all 
of the speech functions etc to completely convert it over to Sapi.
So if you have a better option than Karen please let me know. I have 
Neospeech Kate, but I'd rather not use it for this game. So how about 
some options?

peter Mahach wrote:
 nods, me too. anything is better than caren. heck  I can even cope 
 with sam rofl
 though if I were thomas I'd either stick to heather or use another 
 voice like neospeech kate just like in the old days.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread shaun everiss
brian you are going to have to send that,.
actually I think you are on the pkb group if you have any funny synth stuff 
shove it on the dropbox.
At 11:03 a.m. 30/11/2009, you wrote:
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once created a 
skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo of the Dectalk 
synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide and blew up the computer 
in the process. Then ATT Mike made an announcement along the lines of Sam 
went nuts and killed himself and the computer and now you're screwed. Then 
Dectalk sang Taps in a rudementary doo doo doo fashion. So no, I wouldn't use 
Sam in games.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


Hi Peter,
You have got to be kidding me. Microsoft Sam is like the absolute worst voice 
I've heard for the computer. If I was going to have my customers suffer 
through the torment of listening to it I might have just put Sapi 5 support 
into the Genesis Engine, and be done with it.
As far as why I actually switched from Heather to Karen it is a simple matter 
of the fact Heather has a bad problem with pronunciation. I can give her a 
word like centaur and Heather totally screws it up, and then I have to fiddle 
around with the spelling until Heather comes remotely close to saying it 
correctly. It's not just uncommon words either. I've had Heather say a word 
like control or enter correctly one minute and then  in the next say it 
completely different. I think you could understand why and how that would 
drive me completely mad.
As far as my selection of game voice goes nothing I choose will please 
everybody. The only solution would be to add Sapi support into the Genesis 
Engine. However, not only is it somewhat problematic you have to consider the 
fact it could take a couple of solid weeks to rewrite all of the speech 
functions etc to completely convert it over to Sapi.
So if you have a better option than Karen please let me know. I have 
Neospeech Kate, but I'd rather not use it for this game. So how about some 
options?

peter Mahach wrote:
nods, me too. anything is better than caren. heck  I can even cope with sam 
rofl
though if I were thomas I'd either stick to heather or use another voice 
like neospeech kate just like in the old days.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Bryan Peterson

I don't think so. At least that doesn't ring a bell.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...



brian you are going to have to send that,.
actually I think you are on the pkb group if you have any funny synth 
stuff shove it on the dropbox.

At 11:03 a.m. 30/11/2009, you wrote:
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once 
created a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo of 
the Dectalk synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide and blew 
up the computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an announcement along 
the lines of Sam went nuts and killed himself and the computer and now 
you're screwed. Then Dectalk sang Taps in a rudementary doo doo doo 
fashion. So no, I wouldn't use Sam in games.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?

Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward 
thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...



Hi Peter,
You have got to be kidding me. Microsoft Sam is like the absolute worst 
voice I've heard for the computer. If I was going to have my customers 
suffer through the torment of listening to it I might have just put Sapi 
5 support into the Genesis Engine, and be done with it.
As far as why I actually switched from Heather to Karen it is a simple 
matter of the fact Heather has a bad problem with pronunciation. I can 
give her a word like centaur and Heather totally screws it up, and then I 
have to fiddle around with the spelling until Heather comes remotely 
close to saying it correctly. It's not just uncommon words either. I've 
had Heather say a word like control or enter correctly one minute and 
then  in the next say it completely different. I think you could 
understand why and how that would drive me completely mad.
As far as my selection of game voice goes nothing I choose will please 
everybody. The only solution would be to add Sapi support into the 
Genesis Engine. However, not only is it somewhat problematic you have to 
consider the fact it could take a couple of solid weeks to rewrite all of 
the speech functions etc to completely convert it over to Sapi.
So if you have a better option than Karen please let me know. I have 
Neospeech Kate, but I'd rather not use it for this game. So how about 
some options?


peter Mahach wrote:
nods, me too. anything is better than caren. heck  I can even cope with 
sam rofl
though if I were thomas I'd either stick to heather or use another voice 
like neospeech kate just like in the old days.



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Haden,

You and me both. I couldn't even play the game if I had to use Sam. I 
think I could put up with ESpeak, which sounds like crap, before Sam. At 
least ESpeak I am use to since it is the default TTS Engine on Linux, 
and I use it daily. So have gotten use to hearing ESpeak, but Sam 
definitely is never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, 
never, never, never, never, never going to b used in my games.


Hayden Presley wrote:

If I had to use Sam, I'd die. Plus, MOTA would come off of my games to buy
list. grin
Best Regards,
Hayden
  



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Tom

  Just a guess here but I'm getting the feeling you don't like the Sam 
voice? *lol*

Ron

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


Hi Haden,

You and me both. I couldn't even play the game if I had to use Sam. I
think I could put up with ESpeak, which sounds like crap, before Sam. At
least ESpeak I am use to since it is the default TTS Engine on Linux,
and I use it daily. So have gotten use to hearing ESpeak, but Sam
definitely is never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,
never, never, never, never, never going to b used in my games.

Hayden Presley wrote:
 If I had to use Sam, I'd die. Plus, MOTA would come off of my games to 
 buy
 list. grin
 Best Regards,
 Hayden



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Ron,

That's wight wabbit.

Sincerely,
Elmer Fud

Ron Schamerhorn wrote:

Hi Tom

  Just a guess here but I'm getting the feeling you don't like the Sam 
voice? *lol*
  



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Hayden Presley
Grin.

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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:51 PM
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Hi Ron,

That's wight wabbit.

Sincerely,
Elmer Fud

Ron Schamerhorn wrote:
 Hi Tom

   Just a guess here but I'm getting the feeling you don't like the Sam 
 voice? *lol*
   


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Charles Rivard
How strange.  I got that same impression.  Maybe it was because of some 
slight indication he sent?  Nah!  That couldn't have been it!  Never!
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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:40 PM
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Hi Tom

  Just a guess here but I'm getting the feeling you don't like the Sam
voice? *lol*

Ron

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


Hi Haden,

You and me both. I couldn't even play the game if I had to use Sam. I
think I could put up with ESpeak, which sounds like crap, before Sam. At
least ESpeak I am use to since it is the default TTS Engine on Linux,
and I use it daily. So have gotten use to hearing ESpeak, but Sam
definitely is never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,
never, never, never, never, never going to b used in my games.

Hayden Presley wrote:
 If I had to use Sam, I'd die. Plus, MOTA would come off of my games to
 buy
 list. grin
 Best Regards,
 Hayden



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
I'm not sure exactly what it was but there was a slight feeling of negative 
energy. *l*
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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:53 PM
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How strange.  I got that same impression.  Maybe it was because of some
slight indication he sent?  Nah!  That couldn't have been it!  Never!
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Hi Tom

  Just a guess here but I'm getting the feeling you don't like the Sam
voice? *lol*

Ron

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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


Hi Haden,

You and me both. I couldn't even play the game if I had to use Sam. I
think I could put up with ESpeak, which sounds like crap, before Sam. At
least ESpeak I am use to since it is the default TTS Engine on Linux,
and I use it daily. So have gotten use to hearing ESpeak, but Sam
definitely is never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never,
never, never, never, never, never going to b used in my games.

Hayden Presley wrote:
 If I had to use Sam, I'd die. Plus, MOTA would come off of my games to
 buy
 list. grin
 Best Regards,
 Hayden



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi,

Perhaps it was the dark side of the force you feel?  Lol!

Ron Schamerhorn wrote:
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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread shaun everiss
well if you can get that file off your friend that would really rock.
At 12:10 p.m. 30/11/2009, you wrote:
Regrettably no since I forgot to retrieve it before my old laptop died, but a 
close friend of mine featured it on her podcast so I could still download it. 
That's one reason I'd like to start my own web site but can't afford to buy a 
domaine and I'm not really knowledgeable enough yet to start that sort of 
project since for one thing I don't know html.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Hi Bryan,

Lol! That would have been a riet to hear. Do you sstill have it?

Bryan Peterson wrote:
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once created 
a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo of the Dectalk 
synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide and blew up the 
computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an announcement along the lines 
of Sam went nuts and killed himself and the computer and now you're screwed. 
Then Dectalk sang Taps in a rudementary doo doo doo fashion. So no, I 
wouldn't use Sam in games.


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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Thomas,

I know one gentleman that says that he likes the Sam voice.  Of course he kind of 
sounds like Sam himself. grin

I like Crystal for Email, Lauren and Charles for games.  But do use Kate and 
other voices now and then.  And of course Kate is on the Book Sense.  But I 
even like Anjali now and then just for fun.

BTW One needs to be careful when programming for sapi5, I have found over 250 
acronyms that one or more of the voices say.  You know like Crystal will say laughing 
out loud for LOL, By the way for BTW etc.  Some will say liter for Lt. and others 
will say lieutenant.  Some will say street for ST. and others will say saint.  Just 
have to watch stuff like that. grin

BFN

Jim

Down with TLAs! (three letter acronyms)

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well I have it. But it's not just the file. It also contains her own 
personal introduction. The original file as I said was lost with my old 
laptop.

Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 6:53 PM
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well if you can get that file off your friend that would really rock.
At 12:10 p.m. 30/11/2009, you wrote:
Regrettably no since I forgot to retrieve it before my old laptop died, 
but a close friend of mine featured it on her podcast so I could still 
download it. That's one reason I'd like to start my own web site but can't 
afford to buy a domaine and I'm not really knowledgeable enough yet to 
start that sort of project since for one thing I don't know html.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of 
pizza?

Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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thomasward1...@gmail.com

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Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:39 PM
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Hi Bryan,

Lol! That would have been a riet to hear. Do you sstill have it?

Bryan Peterson wrote:
LOL. I always thought Microsoft Sam sounded suicidal. In fact I once 
created a skit using Text Aloud, Sound Recorder, Gold Wave and a demo of 
the Dectalk synthesizer in which Microsoft Sam committed suicide and 
blew up the computer in the process. Then ATT Mike made an announcement 
along the lines of Sam went nuts and killed himself and the computer and 
now you're screwed. Then Dectalk sang Taps in a rudementary doo doo doo 
fashion. So no, I wouldn't use Sam in games.



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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread dark
My most amusing sam moment was when I was in the shower in colidge,  and 
my friends turned up unexpectedly early.


Not wanting to rush my shower, I then yelled instructions through the door 
for my friends to run game of life, and we played it while I showered.


I stil remember the fits of laughter we Had, when booming through the 
bathroom door loud  but not clear, over the sound of the shower spray 
was you may playt eh markit if you own stock,  but you dnt!


In fact with my friends the phrase but you daaant! became a bit of an in 
joke.


Needless to say, when my install issue for Mike and mary was fixed I was 
very pleased indeed,  and when I acquired realspeak daniel later 
on,  I was thrilled!


While I did use microsoft sam for about six months of game playing in 
2006,  I think going back to it would be a real torment!


Now you may disagree with me if you like sam,  but you dnt!

grin!

Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-29 Thread dark
I've noticed realspeak daniel has far more trouble with that than 
orphius,  or indeed sapi does.


It's rather irritating actually to play a mud and have st read as street, or 
ms as manuscript.


I've tried to find daniel's dictionary to fix this,  but have had no 
luck so far..


That's again one reason I like orphius but as Jim said in an earlier 
post,  i am very familiar with it.


Beware the grue!¬

Dark.
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To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...



Hi Thomas,

I know one gentleman that says that he likes the Sam voice.  Of course he 
kind of sounds like Sam himself. grin


I like Crystal for Email, Lauren and Charles for games.  But do use Kate 
and other voices now and then.  And of course Kate is on the Book Sense. 
But I even like Anjali now and then just for fun.


BTW One needs to be careful when programming for sapi5, I have found over 
250 acronyms that one or more of the voices say.  You know like Crystal 
will say laughing out loud for LOL, By the way for BTW etc.  Some will say 
liter for Lt. and others will say lieutenant.  Some will say street for 
ST. and others will say saint.  Just have to watch stuff like that. grin


BFN

Jim

Down with TLAs! (three letter acronyms)

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-28 Thread Bryan Peterson

It was Karen.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:33 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...



Hi Thomas,

All I can say sis.wow. That was extraordinary. Two things though. Firstly,
there was a sound I heard when you picked something up that sounded like a
weapon; is that a secret, or can you tell me what that was? Secondly, what
voice is that? It sound reminiscent of Karyn, but not quite.

Best Regards,

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Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-28 Thread Hayden Presley
Was wondering about that, just wasn't completely sure; something sounded
just slightly off.
Best regards,
Hayden

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It was Karen.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 4:33 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...


 Hi Thomas,

 All I can say sis.wow. That was extraordinary. Two things though. Firstly,
 there was a sound I heard when you picked something up that sounded like a
 weapon; is that a secret, or can you tell me what that was? Secondly, what
 voice is that? It sound reminiscent of Karyn, but not quite.

 Best Regards,

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