Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
On 7 Jun 2011, at 02:40, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
would then like
to see a binding committment from IBM to fund this budget -- with cash,
The ASF does not muddy the waters of open source development with cash. Our
Hi,
Le 7 juin 11 à 06:01, Ralph Goers a écrit :
It is my expectation that if we make reasonable requests and that if
those requests are within Oracle's power to fulfill those requests,
that we will obtain subsequent software grants.
Sam, for me this is the only area where I question whether
would then like
to see a binding committment from IBM to fund this budget -- with cash,
The ASF does not muddy the waters of open source development with cash. Our
sponsors do not sponsor specific projects or activities. For this reason we
cannot ask IBM or anyone else to pay for this
Hello,
I sent this to infra, but I have been told the incubator chair should
handle this.
Can the people below be added to the incubator group so they can
update the ONGL website? I have hear our inc-chair is ooo (wow, that
acronym got somehow hijiacked in this list) - do we have a deputy
For the record, I added the Education Project idea on the wiki page
(http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal).
The idea we defend since several years, is to work with High Schools and
Universities, train students, detect potential good ideas, write code
(contribute back to
On 7 June 2011 06:49, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
With OOo the company was nasty and people went away and were happy.
The company wants the project at the ASF, and some people complain
now. After all I never really heard the words I want it at the ASF
from somebody with OOo
Christian Grobmeier schreef:
We didn't balk when Geronimo was proposed, despite complaints from
JBoss.
We didn't balk when Felix (nee Oscar) was proposed. Â We didn't balk in
other
cases. Â We have never picked winners, we have incubated projects and
let the
community pick the winners. Â I
Note, I've signed up as a mentor on the proposal.
We need to convince Ian Lynch to get involved too (if he's not already),
but I'll work on him later ;-)
So far, Ian never helped us, but who knows :-)
You might remember we did talk a few months back. My problem is simply that
getting the
On 5 Jun 2011, at 23:45, Keith Curtis wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
We only benefit if the code is contributed to us, as we only accept
..
As the trees diverge, it will get harder to give code to you both.
What if some changes depend on
I thought I'd reintroduce myself. I first posted last week but over the
weekend, was a) busy with other pressing things, and b) wanted to let others,
especially new voices, speak—now is the time to shape the new community. I've
been involved with OpenOffice.org (and now the ODF) for nearly 11
Ralph Goers schreef:
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Christian Lippka c...@lippka.com wrote:
While the technical analyze here seems (should not use that word)
correct my
understanding is that missing bits could still be provided if
requested.
Noel J. Bergman wrote (07-06-11 02:03)
Michael Meeks:
I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home for
the OO.o project in the long run.
You:
I agree; you draw the same inference that I do: he means that a
non-copyleft license is the reason for (predicted eventual) failure.
Is
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
On 7 Jun 2011, at 09:22, Dirk-Willem van Gulik di...@webweaving.org wrote:
On 5 Jun 2011, at 23:45, Keith Curtis wrote:
...
LibreOffice will for a long time be using a substantial amount of
your software.
Great! Don't worry about
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote:
Note, I've signed up as a mentor on the proposal.
We need to convince Ian Lynch to get involved too (if he's not already),
but I'll work on him later ;-)
So far, Ian never helped us, but who knows :-)
You might
I have concerns about the proposal, but not with the ones you raise.
If you're right about the costs, they not going to hit from day one -
as the initial effort will be in building the community and building
something that can be released and very little needed in terms of end
users - and the ASF
Simon Brouwer wrote:
The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle
can't supply and that is very difficult to replace.
If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is yes. And
another remark: given the overall state of the code (~20 years of
sedimentation), the
Hi Thorsten,
Am 07.06.2011 11:09, schrieb Thorsten Behrens:
Simon Brouwer wrote:
The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle
can't supply and that is very difficult to replace.
If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is yes. And
another remark: given
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Behrens schreef:
Simon Brouwer wrote:
The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle
can't supply and that is very difficult to replace.
If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is yes.
Both? That was only one question, and
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote:
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Christian Lippka c...@lippka.com wrote:
While the technical analyze here seems (should not use that word) correct my
understanding is
Mathias Bauer wrote:
I don't think that this is really necessary *now*, as we can do that
even better and more efficiently when we actually work on the code
from the svn repository. It was promised that the needed files will
be provided once they are known. I'm confident that this will work
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote:
If there was still too much concern about that, I could work on an improved
list from a technical perspective and provide this list in a few days. I
don't claim to reach perfection, but the result should be much closer
Am 07.06.2011 07:49, schrieb Christian Grobmeier:
...
With OOo the company was nasty and people went away and were happy.
The company wants the project at the ASF, and some people complain
now.
I think it's far more complex and dates back very long. (see below)
After all I never really
On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:
I wish the Apache org was more useful to me than just providing my HTTP
server.
It is official: Keith is a troll.
We
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote:
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On 7 Jun 2011, at 09:22, Dirk-Willem van Gulik di...@webweaving.org
wrote:
On 5 Jun 2011, at 23:45, Keith Curtis wrote:
...
LibreOffice will for a long time be
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.13:
Good to see the list... Not knowing things for sure, but I
would guess that Oracle had issues with #3, which gave away
(what I would expect to be) huge chunks of h/w infrastructure,
esp to
So code is one thing. Open office does also come with quite a need for build
farms, automated test and so on.
It would be good to understand this early - and understand wether this matters.
I.e. Can normal development continue with the basics (svn, bug tracking,
mailing lists, archives and a
Hello Jim,
Le Tue, 7 Jun 2011 07:50:42 -0400,
Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com a écrit :
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi,
Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.13:
Good to see the list... Not knowing things for sure, but I
would guess that Oracle had issues
On 7 Jun 2011, at 13:06, Michael Stahl wrote:
On 07/06/11 11:42, Christian Lippka wrote:
Am 07.06.2011 11:09, schrieb Thorsten Behrens:
If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is yes. And
another remark: given the overall state of the code (~20 years of
sedimentation), the full
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.netwrote:
On 07.06.2011 12:37, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
Mathias Bauer wrote:
I don't think that this is really necessary *now*, as we can do that
even better and more efficiently when we actually work on the code
from the svn
On 07.06.2011 13:00, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mathias Bauermathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote:
If there was still too much concern about that, I could work on an improved
list from a technical perspective and provide this list in a few days. I
don't claim to reach
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
It seems entirely reasonable, though, to expect Oracle
to provide a firm commitment that they will relicense any and all files in
the repository that they own, including CWS. Sam, does the current
commitment from Apache
On 06/02/2011 03:40 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Florian Effenbergerflo...@documentfoundation.org wrote on 06/02/2011
06:39:12 AM:
This would not only be about reinventing the wheel, but also about
splitting the community, leading to disadvantages for end-users,
contributors, and
On 06/02/2011 04:31 PM, Donald Whytock wrote:
The butler did it.
yeah, the new butler, jenkins, killed the old one, hudson as hudson was
getting too noise for a staff member of the household.
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail:
On 06/03/2011 03:58 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:24 PM,robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Corporate assignments are notorious at the ASF for disappearing
communities. Sometimes, there is momentum to keep going, often
times there is not. Communities are based on individuals.
Steve,
In the interest of completeness, please point out that folks from IBM
did join and work on Axis2 which was a complete rewrite from scratch,
got that integrated into other Apache projects like Geronimo.
thanks,
dims
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Steve Loughran ste...@apache.org wrote:
Hi Steve,
Am 07.06.2011 15:27, schrieb Steve Loughran:
[...]
The issue with corporate reassignments is that everyone just
vanishes. They get reassigned, and go away. In OSS, individuals tend
to drift off, go onto what else interests them, or whatever. The
turnover/year may be the same,
Hi Steve,
Am 07.06.2011 15:27, schrieb Steve Loughran:
[...]
The issue with corporate reassignments is that everyone just
vanishes. They get reassigned, and go away. In OSS, individuals tend
to drift off, go onto what else interests them, or whatever. The
turnover/year may be the same,
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Steve Loughran ste...@apache.org wrote:
On 06/02/2011 04:31 PM, Donald Whytock wrote:
The butler did it.
yeah, the new butler, jenkins, killed the old one, hudson as hudson was
getting too noise for a staff member of the household.
ROFL :-)
Robert
Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos)
On 7 Jun 2011, at 08:58, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
For the record, I added the Education Project idea on the wiki page
(http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal).
The idea we defend since several years, is
All,
we have discussed a lots about everything the past days. Now it seems
everything goes settled. We don't need to discuss more about the sense
and nonsense of licensing. I also think there is no need to convince
people or do marketing.
As of now, we have more than 50 committers listed in the
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
All,
Please list your questions in short sentences. Avoid discussions about
licensing. Please don't refer to open discussion on TDF/ASF community
- we all know we want to collaborate. If this all really happens
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought I'd reintroduce myself.
Welcome Louis :-)
I first posted last week but over the weekend, was a) busy with other
pressing things, and b) wanted to let others, especially new voices,
speak—now is the time to
Hi Robert,
2011/6/7 Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote:
Tomorrow, the OpenOffice.org Community Council will hold a meeting to
discuss What Now? It's not going to be our last meeting. I don't know what
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
The only thing I really don't have read anything about is, if we can
handle this project from infra-resourcing.
Joe Schaefer added himself as a mentor, so we can consider that covered.
--
Capitalism is the
Some of you know I was closely involved in the original open-sourcing of
StarDivision code as OpenOffice.org. I'm also an Apache Member. Thought some
of the current discussions could benefit from a tiny bit of (no axe to grind)
history.
This information is offered in the spirit of trying to
On 7 June 2011 16:08, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Robert,
2011/6/7 Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com
wrote:
Tomorrow, the OpenOffice.org Community Council will hold a meeting to
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote:
4) most customers use OOo on Windows
Last time I checked, the percentage of Windows users was still in the high
90s percentile. But it builds on the various Linux distros, as well as
MacOSX and a bunch of other
Hi Ian,
2011/6/7 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com:
On 7 June 2011 16:08, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Robert,
2011/6/7 Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com
wrote:
Tomorrow, the
The only thing I really don't have read anything about is, if we can
handle this project from infra-resourcing.
Joe Schaefer added himself as a mentor, so we can consider that covered.
agreed
--
Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men
will do the most
On 7 June 2011 16:27, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ian,
2011/6/7 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com:
On 7 June 2011 16:08, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Robert,
2011/6/7 Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at
Danese,
3) LOTS of people download OOo
Like maybe 10% of the human population of the planet. And its a big file.
Initially we engaged Akamai, but it quickly became too expensive. Serving up
downloads of OOo was pretty intense. I know Apache has all that web server
download traffic and
2011/6/7 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com:
On 7 June 2011 16:27, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Ian,
2011/6/7 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com:
On 7 June 2011 16:08, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Robert,
2011/6/7 Robert Burrell Donkin
Hi all,
2011/6/7 Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com:
Some of you know I was closely involved in the original open-sourcing of
StarDivision code as OpenOffice.org. I'm also an Apache Member. Thought
some of the current discussions could benefit from a tiny bit of (no axe to
grind) history.
On 6/7/2011 10:23 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
One question about the comment above though: Are you advocating that Apache
OOo stick to source-only releases, and avoid
building and delivering binaries altogether? Or is your idea that Apache
OOo would deliver builds, but that they be Vanilla
Hi,
2011/6/7 Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com:
3) LOTS of people download OOo
Like maybe 10% of the human population of the planet. And its a big file.
Initially we engaged Akamai, but it quickly became too expensive. Serving up
downloads of OOo was pretty intense. I know Apache has
Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote on 06/07/2011 11:08:26 AM:
Hi Robert,
2011/6/7 Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com
wrote:
Tomorrow, the OpenOffice.org Community Council will hold a
Have a look at http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html
Maybe a bit outdated and actually there is no release date in the
displayed time. The old load balancer (bouncer) usually failed totally
when a new version was announced, therefore OOo switched to Suse's
Mirrorbrain.
Rob,
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote on 2011-06-07 17.56:
Oh, let's not go down that path again, or else someone could equally point
out that the TDF Steering Committee has not been elected yet either. I
see no value from debating whose election is bigger.
can you please stop these insulting
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote:
Hi all,
Hi Christoph
I hope you don't mind that another new face appears on this mailing
list. I followed some of the discussion during the last days and like to
add that I'm generally happy to see the
The only thing I really don't have read anything about is, if we can
handle this project from infra-resourcing.
Joe Schaefer added himself as a mentor, so we can consider that covered.
I just have learned OOo delivers 53.000 gigs of data each day.
300.000 downloads/day * 180 MB = 5400 MB
Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote on 06/07/2011 11:13:45 AM:
3) LOTS of people download OOo
Like maybe 10% of the human population of the planet. And its a big
file.
Initially we engaged Akamai, but it quickly became too expensive.
Serving up downloads of OOo was pretty intense.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
On 6/7/2011 10:23 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
One question about the comment above though: Are you advocating that Apache
OOo stick to source-only releases, and avoid
building and delivering binaries altogether? Or
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
The only thing I really don't have read anything about is, if we can
handle this project from infra-resourcing.
Joe Schaefer added himself as a mentor, so we can consider that covered.
I just have learned OOo
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote on 06/07/2011
12:01:55 PM:
Rob,
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote on 2011-06-07 17.56:
Oh, let's not go down that path again, or else someone could equally
point
out that the TDF Steering Committee has not been elected yet either. I
Hi Rob,
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote on 2011-06-07 18.17:
Florian, I stated a relevant fact to rebut an attempt to dismiss the input
from the OOo Community Council. You do not dispute the facts. I
apologize if you find this offensive. That was far from my intent.
I think our collaboration
On 6/7/2011 11:11 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
wrote:
Just to clarify, only source code is released by the ASF. Yes, there may
I don't believe this is true - we have to release the source, but
anything we distribute is
Hi Flo,
2011/6/7 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org:
Hi Rob,
robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote on 2011-06-07 18.17:
[...]
let's forget about it.
I'm not made out of sugar, as we have a saying in Germany.
an another one:
Der Klügere gibt nach.
But, please,
everyone, let's
On 6/7/11 12:31, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 6/7/2011 11:11 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
Just to clarify, only source code is released by the ASF. Yes, there may
I don't believe this is true - we have to release
and another one:
Der Klügere gibt nach.
But, please,
everyone, let's not focus on the past, and let's not get personal or
insulting. It simply doesn't help anyone.
Peace,
Gut gemacht. ;-)
Vorwärts und aufwärts
(Hope that translated ok, if not I'll stick to guten morgen and
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:31 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote:
On 6/7/2011 11:11 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net
wrote:
Just to clarify, only source code is released by the ASF. Yes, there may
I don't
On 06/07/2011 05:00 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Have a look at http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html
Maybe a bit outdated and actually there is no release date in the
displayed time. The old load balancer (bouncer) usually failed totally
when a new version was announced,
I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee (Paris,
October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space for a meeting.
S.
just to check the . there for i18n issues, you mean about 52TB? That
translates to about 1.5PB/month, which is equivalent to the CERN LHC data
rate once it's ramped up to full luminosity and event rate.
Yes, I can imagine people's concerns.
Its 30 downloads with 180 MB each (rounded).
30 downloads per day or per month?
52TB per month is still a lot...
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: A little OOo history
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Tuesday, June 7,
It is Oracle's intent to provide to ASF the files needed to build OOo,
taking into account licensing and ownership issues.
This includes binary artifacts such as the OOo artwork and translation
databases. I am following the discussions here closely,
and I am collected all of the lists that are
By my count we have now have over 60 individuals listed on as proposed
committers for the Apache OpenOffice project. I think this is a
respectable start, though obviously the project will need to have a strong
commitment to recruiting additional developers and growing the project
further,
Le Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:59:21 +0100,
Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com a écrit :
I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee
(Paris, October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space
for a meeting.
S.
Kiss the cook! (/points at himself)...
--
Charles-H. Schulz
That's very helpful, thanks Andrew. Will Oracle also be providing the
work-in-progress CWS[1] please?
Thanks
S.
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1792694/cws.ods
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote:
It is Oracle's intent to provide to ASF the files needed to
Hi,
Am 07.06.2011 17:51, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter:
In Switzerland, there is the brand name Open Office as well. - So be
careful. ;-)
Last time I checked (~2 years ago) it was not registered anymore.
The name itself is still in use. The current BACHER EDV Beratung (in
Liechtenstein) took
30 downloads per day or per month?
52TB per month is still a lot...
per day.
Look at this chart:
http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html
And please correct me if i am wrong. :-)
Cheers
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Phil,
IMHO we would have to roll vanilla builds just to make sure it still builds
when we declare a version. It used to take some iterations and tweaks per
version to get a valid build (imagine that's still true). ASF should at least
validate buildability as part of servicing the codebase,
Hi André, *,
Am 7. Juni 2011 19:32 schrieb André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net:
Hi,
Am 07.06.2011 17:51, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter:
In Switzerland, there is the brand name Open Office as well. - So be
careful. ;-)
Last time I checked (~2 years ago) it was not registered anymore.
The
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Of course, this is not necessarily a problem for Apache. Think of it this
way. It would be perfectly possible, and actually quite easy for someone
to host the files with a scalable cloud storage provider, e.g., Amazon,
and
Hmmm. I'd have thought it a bit difficult to build a developer community for an
end user product if theres effectively no way for an end user to get it from
that community (or to get direct feedback from users)... while you want
downstream distributors as well, I'd expect the podling to want to
Just have to say...I have often been quoted saying the advent of OpenOffice.org
was a rare case of corporate greed aligning with human need. Safe to assume a
high percentage of downloaders don't have $.99. I know we're all excited by the
commercial potential of an unencumbered codebase, but
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
30 downloads per day or per month?
52TB per month is still a lot...
per day.
Look at this chart:
http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html
TL;DR: these bandwidth numbers are not actually that
We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in the OOo
repositories.
A.
On 6/7/2011 10:14 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
That's very helpful, thanks Andrew. Will Oracle also be providing the
work-in-progress CWS[1] please?
Thanks
S.
[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1792694/cws.ods
On
Good to know, many thanks.
S.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote:
We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in the OOo
repositories.
A.
On 6/7/2011 10:14 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
That's very helpful, thanks Andrew. Will Oracle also
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following
37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in
2010:
Based on the volume here over the last week, how many of those lists
got
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Since this is a large download, I wonder whether the quoted numbers are
impacted at all by timeouts, abandoned downloads attempts, etc. In other
words, is it counting the HTTP GET's? Or the successful downloads? That
may
Hi,
Am 07.06.2011 20:30, schrieb Donald Whytock:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Jukka Zittingjukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
According to Markmail (http://openoffice.markmail.org/) the following
37 openoffice.org mailing lists received more than 365 messages in
2010:
Based on the volume
Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote on 06/07/2011 02:19:38 PM:
Just have to say...I have often been quoted saying the advent of
OpenOffice.org was a rare case of corporate greed aligning with
human need. Safe to assume a high percentage of downloaders don't
have $.99. I know we're all
Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote on 06/07/2011 02:40:01 PM:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Since this is a large download, I wonder whether the quoted numbers
are
impacted at all by timeouts, abandoned downloads attempts, etc. In
other
words, is it
Simon Phipps wrote:
unless either the Apache project or the LibreOffice project do extremely
substantial refactoring very fast, both projects will be using the same
code for a long time. If we all do things right, this will be in the
context of actual shared repositories.
That sounds like a
Leo Simons wrote:
You know, there is this large and interesting community of maintainers
of mirrors of open source software.
A fair share of them are your typical beard stroking [1] uber
experienced unix [2] system administrators who maintain a local mirror
for their company / campus / ISP
It seems Apache will have a destination of value in OpenOffice.org. There
should be a way to monetize this, similar to how Mozilla monetized their
default search engine choice with Google.
That'll spawn a whole other set of debates.
For example, ASF could take bids and award a contracts to
Hi all,
I'm Carl Marcum. Independent Java developer. Lately I have been doing custom
OOo installations and extensions for a client. I look forward to helping out
with the project where ever I can.
Best regards,
Carl
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
Simon Phipps wrote:
unless either the Apache project or the LibreOffice project do extremely
substantial refactoring very fast, both projects will
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com
wrote:
Simon Phipps wrote:
unless either the Apache project or the LibreOffice
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
Guys, if we are going to argue over the mistakes of the pasts
and the slights of the past, quite frankly, we aren't going to
get very far.
This is supposed to be a happy occasion; let's not bicker
and argue about
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