Re: Process Question: Draft Mentors Onto IPMC...? [WAS: [docs] Started pre-drafting]

2008-01-16 Thread Craig L Russell
The wording in the Policy was deliberately non-procedural, as the Incubator PMC decided that policy belongs in the policy document and process belongs elsewhere. So as far as I'm concerned, this discussion is not supposed to have an answer. So Bill's analysis is as valid as anyone else's.

Re: Karma granting (RE: svn commit: r611633)

2008-01-15 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, This is the kind of thing that IMHO we need to clarify in our written doc. If a Mentor is not a PMC chair or an svnadmin, what should we suggest? If no Mentor is authorized to update the file, send email to incubator-general and request someone update the file If no Mentor is

Re: [Vote] Apache River 2.1.1 Incubating Release

2008-01-15 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 to release. I've reviewed the vote thread on the podling dev alias and the comments on the incubator alias and don't see anything to block this release. Many suggestions for improvement but no blockers. Craig On Jan 13, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Incubator PMC: The River

Re: [Vote] Apache River 2.1.1 Incubating Release

2008-01-14 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:58 AM, sebb wrote: The NOTICE files need to be updated for 2008, i.e. replace 2007 with 2007-2008 on line 3. Not a blocker for me. The hash files use a format which is difficult to use, as the hashes may be split over two lines. The common MD5 format is either

January 2008 status report for JSPWiki

2008-01-10 Thread Craig L Russell
2008-January JSPWiki Incubator status report JSPWiki has been incubating since September 2007. JSPWiki is a JSP-based wiki program. JSPWiki 2.6 LGPL was finally released just before Christmas, so the development could finally be moved to the Apache Incubation SVN. The code is expected to

January 2008 status report for Imperius

2008-01-10 Thread Craig L Russell
2008-January Imperius Incubator status report Imperius has been incubating since November 2007. Imperius is a rule-based infrastructure management tool Infrastructure has been set up. Mailing lists are operational. The repository has been set up, and the first code drop has arrived. Work is

January 2008 incubator status report for Sanselan

2008-01-10 Thread Craig L Russell
2008-January Sanselan Incubator status report Sanselan has been in incubation since September 2007. Sanselan is a pure-java image library for reading and writing a variety of image formats. The community is still small, with a few more members now compared to the beginning. The code base has

Re: [docs] Release Distribution

2008-01-07 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Matthieu, You've convinced me. +1 for www.apache.org/dist/incubator/{podling} Craig On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: On Jan 6, 2008 2:01 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2008 11:24 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] clan.net wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Bluesky Project into the Incubator

2008-01-07 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 to accept BlueSky into incubation Good luck, Craig On Jan 5, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote: Thanks to everyone who made contributions to this proposal and special thanks to Niclas and Aaron for stepping up as mentors. The project is documented here:

Re: [VOTE] publish Tika 0.1-incubating

2008-01-01 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 to release. I verified the signature and ran RAT on the artifacts. No issues. A few notes: 0. Good work for your first release at Apache. Congratulations to the team. 1. This message doesn't contain a direct link to the release being voted on. It would be good to include the link

Re: [VOTE] publish Tika 0.1-incubating

2008-01-01 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Niall, Your vote on tika-dev is a vote in favor. When the vote is tallied, your vote as a member counts. Unless you want to change your mind... ;-) Craig On Jan 1, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: +1 to the release (I already voted on tika-dev - wasn't sure whether its needed

Re: [POLICY] Streamline Setting+Up+a+New+Podling policy

2007-12-31 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On Dec 31, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ Incubation_Policy.html#Setting+Up+a+New+Podling falls somewhere between guideance and policy. given that process mistakes have been made (eg. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1341)

December incubator reports for Imperius, JSPWiki, Sanselan

2007-12-12 Thread Craig L Russell
2007-December Imperius Incubator status report Imperius has been incubating since November 2007. Imperius is a rule-based infrastructure management tool Infrastructure has been partly set up. Mailing lists for dev, commits, private, and user are operational. The repository has been set up.

Re: [VOTE] Move Project Yoko to Apache Geronimo and Apache CXF

2007-12-11 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Dec 10, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: [ ] +1 Approve the below proposal and code migration to Apache Geronimo and CXF respectively [ ] 0 No opinion [ ] -1 Do not approve of the move (please provide rationale Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System

Re: [VOTE] Allow podling members to set up their own infra

2007-11-28 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Nov 22, 2007 6:29 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there has been no discussion, and this is a change to policy Discussion to what? I see the RAT set up thread, but there was no discussion of a general policy

Re: [VOTE] Accept Shindig for Incubation

2007-11-28 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Nov 28, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: [ ] +1 Accept Shindig for incubation [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason : Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A

Re: RAT set up [WAS Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator]

2007-11-26 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Upayavira, On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Upayavira wrote: I think that Someone needs to be responsible for these things, and I don't see that the IPMC in general or the IPMC chair specifically needs to have anything to do with them. If the podling is interested in getting its infra setup,

Mail list ppmcs@

2007-11-26 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, I recently became aware of yet another unsynchronized incubator artifact, the mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know anything about it except that it's apparently months out of date. What do we do about this? Should we add a paragraph to the graduation guide Steps outside the

Re: RAT set up [WAS Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator]

2007-11-24 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Nov 19, 2007 11:23 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert, On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Nov 18, 2007 11:44 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one question

[Withdrawn][VOTE] Allow podling members to set up their own infra

2007-11-22 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Since there has been no discussion, and this is a change to policy Discussion to what? I see the RAT set up thread, but there was no discussion of a general policy change. Robert said that infrastructure approval should probably rest

Re: [VOTE] Allow podling members to set up their own infra

2007-11-21 Thread Craig L Russell
See Robert's message earlier in which he asked if he could set up the RAT project even though he's not a Mentor on RAT. He's not a Mentor, but he has all the karma anyone would want. Craig On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Nov 21, 2007 5:03 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL

Re: [DISCUSS] Community diversity: current concerns and suggestions for improvement

2007-11-19 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, Some of the discussion here to me seems to be backward: adding constraints to the entry of a podling to the incubator. I'd hope that we could get podlings, including all of their current community, into the incubator and then actively mentor/monitor its activities to promote

Re: RAT set up [WAS Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator]

2007-11-19 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Nov 18, 2007 11:44 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one question. Why are you not a mentor for this project? I don't see anything in the rules against it, and I believe it will be easier all around

Re: RAT set up [WAS Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator]

2007-11-18 Thread Craig L Russell
robert burrell donkin (*) +1 Matthias Wessendorf +1 Niklas Gustavsson +1 Luciano Resende +1 Brett Porter (*) +1 Matthieu Riou (*) +1 Thilo Goetz +1 Richard S. Hall +1 Martijn Dashorst (*) +1 Kevan Miller (*) +1 Matt Hogstrom (*) +1 Craig L Russell (*) +1 Yoav Shapira (*) +1 Niall Pemberton +1 Stefan

Re: [VOTE] Please approve Tuscany SCA Java 1.0.1-incubating release

2007-11-18 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Nov 18, 2007, at 4:19 PM, ant elder wrote: On Nov 16, 2007 2:10 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:09 AM, Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, Kevan. Thank you for the review. We have fixed the issue and republished a RC5a at: SVN Tag:

Re: RAT doesn't recognize CHANGES file

2007-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:40 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Nov 16, 2007 2:36 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be reasonable to expect that a file called CHANGES contains implied content? I do not know what you mean by implied I meant that CHANGES can be assumed

RAT doesn't recognize CHANGES file

2007-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
I notice in the Tuscany SCA RAT report: !? 1.0.1-RC5a/distribution/src/main/release/CHANGES Would it be reasonable to expect that a file called CHANGES contains implied content? Regards, Craig Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408

2007-November JSPWiki Incubator status report

2007-11-09 Thread Craig L Russell
2007-November JSPWiki Incubator status report JSPWiki infrastructure has been moved over to Apache: the issue trackers and the mailing lists are now fully operational. We've also started the process of getting ICLAs and Software Grants from all the previous contributors who still hold

2007-November Sanselan Incubator status report

2007-11-09 Thread Craig L Russell
2007-November Sanselan Incubator status report The autoexport from confluence to our site has been set up (see http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan/) so documenation can be added soon. We are looking for images (with no copyright restrictions) that can be used for unit testing. Existing

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Another thing that worries me a bit is projects coming in with a large (N=more than 3 or 5?) number of committers from the same organization, especially people who have no previous Apache or open source committer experience. Do we

Re: [VOTE] Accept project Buildr for incubation

2007-10-30 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 It will be nice to see some Ruby development here. Craig On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote: Hi, Following up on the proposal discussed at [1] I'd like to call for a vote to incubate Buildr. Buildr is a simple and intuitive build system for Java projects written in

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-30 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 you go, rat-man. Craig On Oct 30, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the incubator - robert Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL

Re: ASF Web of Trust [was: Release Distribution Strategy]

2007-10-28 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, Some background on the web of trust (wot) that ASF uses for signers of code releases is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust You correctly point out that the icla is a binding document in which the party signing the document grants certain intellectual property rights to the

JIRA setup: groups or roles

2007-10-27 Thread Craig L Russell
of, related to projects that I can fix, and add or update project roles. Perhaps this would be a good thing for an incubator guide, since most jira projects now are established in the incubator. Craig On Oct 27, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 10/23/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Craig L Russell
Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... But in the end, I'll defer to the authors. Craig On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias

Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator

2007-10-22 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Good luck, Craig On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, The proposal for Composer has been drafted here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ComposerProposal As mentioned previously, both containers are heavily used, both have always lived as open source projects. Plexus

Re: Assigning issues in JIRA?

2007-10-22 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Janne, I'm copying the incubator general list for feedback from others with more experience in ICLA vs. Software Grant... On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Janne Jalkanen wrote: Perhaps you can recap the status of the code. Was most of the code written by a small number of people? Were

Re: Graduation: how do we check three or more independent committers ?

2007-10-16 Thread Craig L Russell
On Oct 16, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Simon Nash wrote: Matt Hogstrom wrote: Not to go down a rat hole but I think that clarifying the affiliations needs some refinement. On Apache Geronimo we have a few committers that work for IBM but their participation is not part of their day job.

Re: Graduation: how do we check three or more independent committers ?

2007-10-16 Thread Craig L Russell
, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: I do think it would be good to clarify the meaning of affiliations, and make it more flexible. This topic has been kicked around for a while. Is there some consensus that affiliation is project-specific, such that a committer can be independent

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-14 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 for graduation. Craig On Oct 14, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Martin Sebor wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe that we should release a project with existing copyright issues. If

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Craig L Russell
On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Martin, After reviewing http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--ready-to-graduate- tf4386148.html#a12504335 I have two issues. First: Martin Sebor wrote: Bill Rowe wrote: With a caviat - I'd expect the crew to run the next possible release

October Incubator Reports for JSPWiki

2007-10-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Here's the incubator status report for JSPWiki 2007-October JSPWiki Incubator status report The project has kicked off with some basic infrastructure now in place. Mailing lists have been set up and subscriptions from the previous mailing lists are being transferred. The svn repository is

October Incubator Reports for Sanselan

2007-10-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Here's the report for Sanselan. 2007-October Sanselan Incubator status report The project has kicked off with some basic infrastructure now in place. Mailing lists have been set up. The structure of the project has been discussed; plans are to use maven using Jackrabbit as a model. A site was

Re: [VOTE] Let Ivy Graduate as an Ant Subproject

2007-10-08 Thread Craig L Russell
On Oct 8, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: Should Ivy be allowed to graduate as an Ant Subproject? [ X] Yes Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! smime.p7s Description:

Re: Soliciting mentors for Imperius project ... [VOTE] Accept project Imperius into the Incubator

2007-10-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, I'm currently mentoring two other projects, so it's not clear how much time I can put in. With that disclaimer, I'm happy to volunteer as a mentor. Craig On Oct 8, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote: Thanks Filip. Would like one more mentor... anyone? Bill Filip at Apache

Re: [VOTE][policy] Release Distribution Directory

2007-10-08 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: infrastructure asks that all official releases are distributed from subdirectories of /www.apache.org/dist. this means that infrastructure team can gaurantee the availability and security of releases. podling releases are

Re: [VOTE][POLICY] (Re)Move Post Graduation Check List

2007-10-04 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 While reviewing the patch again I noticed a typo in the material that refers to the new guides/graduation. I don't think a new vote is needed... Gradation Guide should be Graduation Guide Craig On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: ATM the policy document ()

Re: RAT^H^H^H Proposal

2007-10-03 Thread Craig L Russell
Nothing wrong with a Rat as an apache project. Craig On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the way: the name. i quite like the name RAT

Re: [VOTE] Accept project Imperius into the Incubator

2007-10-02 Thread Craig L Russell
On Oct 2, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 10/1/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/30/07, Bill Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Nominated Mentors -Bill Stoddard([EMAIL PROTECTED])... Are we willing to accept a podling with just one mentor?

Software-grant form is missing fax/mail address

2007-10-02 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, This probably belongs on a different list, but incubator seems to be a good place to get the answer. The software grant form http://www.apache.org/licenses/software- grant.txt does not have a fax number or address built in, unlike the ICLA form http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt

Re: [VOTE] Accept project Imperius into the Incubator

2007-09-30 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote: Greetings from North Carolina on a bright, beautiful, sunny fall day! Thank You to all those who gave comments on the proposal. I made one small tweak; Tomcat, rather than Geronimo, should be one of the first bindings. Please

Re: Effects on corporate backing withdrawals [was: Incubator Proposal: Pig]

2007-09-25 Thread Craig L Russell
On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: One of the purpose of the incubator is to ensure that there is a sustainable developer community, so I don't see failure of incubating projects as a real problem. +1. If we knew for sure that a project would be able to attract a

Re: [VOTE] accept Pig into Incubator

2007-09-25 Thread Craig L Russell
On 9/25/07, Doug Cutting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to call the Incubator PMC to vote to incubate the proposed Pig project. Discussion on this list evidenced broad interest in this project, which bodes well for its ability to build a diverse developer community.

Re: Incubator Proposal: Pig

2007-09-24 Thread Craig L Russell
Speaking just for myself, I find the name unusual but not offensive or even provocative. The fact that you wouldn't eat an animal doesn't mean you deny its existence... Of course, I thought the language was officially called igpay atinlay. Craig On Sep 24, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Doug Cutting

Re: Imperius (was SPL) Incubator Proposal

2007-09-21 Thread Craig L Russell
I think Imperius is a great Apache project name. And it's good that you included references to the IP policy. Craig On Sep 21, 2007, at 6:56 PM, David L Kaminsky wrote: All, I updated the proposal to include the new proposed project name. Imperius seems to be cleaner than the

Re: Incubator Proposal: Pig

2007-09-18 Thread Craig L Russell
On Sep 18, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: (if anything it seems like a new TLP associated with hadoop and generic distributed computing tools like pig that are built on top of hadoop seems like it would make more sense than just a pig TLP), Yes, I agree. But

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi David, Thanks for the clarifications. On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote: On the standard itself, not surprisingly, the DMTF encourages implementations, and at submission, the DMTF requires this text: Permission to copy, display, perform, modify and distribute the

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-17 Thread Craig L Russell
://www.dmtf.org/about/policies/patent-10-18-01.pdf The DMTF does not have any IP in any of its specs and unless DMTF is explicitly notified of such, neither do any of the members. -- mark Craig L Russell wrote: Hi David, Thanks for the clarifications. On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote

Re: [VOTE] JSPWiki Incubation

2007-09-17 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Dave, On Sep 17, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Dave wrote: I will go ahead and submit the mailing list and subversion space requests to the Infrastructure JIRA. I'll take a look at the latest Incubator docs first and Roller's old request as an example before I do that. What else should we be doing now

Re: Incubator Proposal: SPL

2007-09-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, A few comments on this proposal. On Sep 14, 2007, at 11:11 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote: The design of SPL, a Preliminary DMTF standard, is inspired by existing policy languages and models including PDL (policy definition language) from Bell Laboratories, the Ponder policy language from

Does Incubator PMC chair need to update authorizations for Mentors?

2007-09-12 Thread Craig L Russell
In the projects/incubation-status-template.xml Interim responsibility, I find this bit of setup. projects/incubation-status-template.xml Give all Mentors access to the incubator SVN repository. (to be done by PMC chair) /projects/incubation-status-template.xml Seems to me that this is a

Re: Does Incubator PMC chair need to update authorizations for Mentors?

2007-09-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Craig Russell asked: projects/incubation-status-template.xml Give all Mentors access to the incubator SVN repository. (to be done by PMC chair) /projects/incubation-status-template.xml That ought to mean adding them to the

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-11 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 for incubation. It's clear to me from the discussion here that the prospective project is aware of most of the IP, licensing, and third party issues that we deal with at Apache, and I welcome the opportunity to have them continue work in Apache. I'll even volunteer to help mentor if

Re: [PROPOSAL] JSPWiki

2007-09-11 Thread Craig L Russell
I'd count Snoop Dave Johnson as a binding vote, being Incubator PMC. Time's up. Go for't. Craig On Sep 11, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Dave wrote: The proposal was posted Aug. 29, we're up to 4 or 5 binding +1 votes now and no -1 vote have been cast. Binding: +1 Craig Russell +1 Noel Bergman +1

Re: svn commit: r574186 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/sanselan.xml

2007-09-10 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, I read the page [1] and it says that this is for existing projects. Is there a different page describing the process for incubating projects? I couldn't find it in Policy, Roles, Process, or Guides. Thanks, Craig On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: cziegeler

Re: svn commit: r574186 - /incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/sanselan.xml

2007-09-10 Thread Craig L Russell
On Sep 10, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Craig.Russell wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: cziegeler committed: URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=574186view=rev Log: Add ip-clearance document for sanselan. [1] See also: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html My

Re: Request to accept the Sling project for Incubation

2007-09-02 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Sep 2, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, As described in [1], please acknowledge this request to enter the Sling project into incubation. The Jackrabbit PMC has voted (see the vote request [2] and results [3]) to approve the Sling project (see the proposal [4]) for

Re: [Vote] Accept Sanselan for incubation

2007-08-22 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept this project into the incubator [ ] -1 No, because Thanks Carsten Proposal Draft -- = Sanselan, a Pure-Java Image Library = Craig Russell DB PMC, OpenJPA

Re: Signing Java Jars, versus Apache Signing of distributed artifacts

2007-08-20 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Marshall, When I looked into Java signing and found it to be too burdensome. There are two basic issues with it that made me think that it wasn't suitable for use with Apache projects: 1. The certificates are the keys to the kingdom. Whoever has the ability to use the certificates

Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Tuscany SDO Java 1.0-incubating (release candidate 4)

2007-08-09 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Aug 9, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote: +1 On 8/8/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/6/07, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tuscany project requests permission of the IPMC to release the SDO Java 1.0-incubating release. The vote

Re: policy on incubating artifacts

2007-07-31 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Steve, There is plenty of information on the incubator web site. I suggest reading http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html (not normative) http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ Incubation_Policy.html#Releases (normative) The references below are more discussions on

Re: All licenses in a single file [WAS: Re: [VOTE] Publish the Woden M7b release]

2007-07-31 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Matthieu, On Jul 31, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: I'd rather have all the specific licenses each in there file reproduced side by side with the library the license is applied on (with similar namings, i.e. dom4j-1.3.LICENSE) and a simple pointer in the main LICENSE file (licenses

Re: New Incubator Proposal: Sanselan - a java image library

2007-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, I'll be happy to mentor this project. I've added my name to the wiki. Regards, Craig On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:42 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Hi, together with Charles M. Chen I came up with a proposal to move the great open source java image library, Sanselan, to Apache. You'll find all

Re: Software Grant through Intellectual Property Clearance in MyFaces

2007-07-26 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jul 26, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 7/26/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi *, we have a situation over at the MyFaces project which is a pretty straightforward code-grant. Oracle wants to donate the code of a JSF-portlet-bridge which would fit well

Re: [VOTE][doc] Promote http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html

2007-07-24 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 This page is really good and should be promoted. Craig On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: +1 On 7/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html is marked DRAFT but it seems good enough to be promoted to a

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project (2nd thread)

2007-07-17 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Guillaume, In my opinion, there is no real damage done. You can fix the problem by forwarding the ServiceMix graduation request message to general at incubator and to the dev ServiceMix alias. I'd assume that there are very few people who will be surprised to get the message. ;-) In

Re: [proposal] Create new guide: first steps outside the incubator

2007-07-17 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martijn, On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On 7/16/07, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's an argument that this material would be better in the main apache site. i recommend checking with community. Hmm, the transferring resources and establishing

Re: JIRA Karma Request

2007-07-11 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Niclas, I gave you jira-administrator permissions. Use the force wisely. Craig On Jul 11, 2007, at 1:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Can I be granted Karma to resolve and close issues? Thanks -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here;

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ODE to a Top Level Project

2007-07-10 Thread Craig L Russell
; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator ODE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter discharged. On 7/9/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one question: Who is John Smith and what are his qualifications

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ODE to a Top Level Project

2007-07-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Just one question: Who is John Smith and what are his qualifications to be PMC chair? Craig On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote: Hi all, This is a vote to recommend Apache ODE for graduation as a top level project to the Apache Board. Since the first days of our graduation

Re: [doc] [VOTE] Promote http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html

2007-07-08 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 It's ready. Craig On Jul 8, 2007, at 8:40 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: we've been working on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html for a while now and i think it's good enough now to be promoted from draft status and added to the documentation indexes. status doesn't

Re: [VOTE] Retire the Graffito project

2007-07-07 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Jul 6, 2007, at 1:02 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, The previously mentioned [1] Graffito community vote to retire the project due to lack of activity has ended with a recommendation to retire the project [2]. I would like to call the Incubator PMC to ratify this decision. Please

Re: Incubator new committer redux

2007-07-02 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On Jul 2, 2007, at 2:10 AM, J Aaron Farr wrote: Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The thread has died down with no consensus, so I'm going to try again. I apologize for being absent from these threads for the last month. Life got busy and one of the things that got dropped

Incubator new committer redux

2007-06-30 Thread Craig L Russell
The thread has died down with no consensus, so I'm going to try again. Regarding how a Podling can get a new to Apache committer. First, the rules: 1. Only the Incubator PMC can vote in a new committer, with three +1 and no -1 votes recorded. 2. All Incubator PMC members should be able

Re: Incubator new committer redux

2007-06-30 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martijn, On Jun 30, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: On 6/30/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have I missed any? Not according to me, perhaps only that adding a PPMC member should follow the same procedure. No, the PPMC is a different beast entirely

Re: [Vote] Accept JRS project for incubation

2007-06-29 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: I have changed the proposal to indicate that initial source will not be made available until the software grant is executed. Other than that, the proposal is unchanged from the original submission. Full text is attached below. Votes,

Re: How to update projects.apache.org

2007-06-27 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:19 AM, David Reid wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: On Jun 27, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Does such a thing as a what to do now you're a tlp faq exist? Yes, it's called http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ graduation.html and updates to the section http

Re: [Proposal] Java Resource Simulator (JRS)

2007-06-24 Thread Craig L Russell
My only concern is with the name, which is surprisingly and unfortunately similar to JSR. When I saw the acronym I immediately thought you were proposing a new Java TM Specification Request. Actually, if you google java jrs you find things like this: This project consists in a java JRS-168

Re: Podling Committer policy

2007-06-20 Thread Craig L Russell
Getting back to my original comment, I don't see how the IPMC can meaningfully participate in a discussion or vote held on the PPMC private mailing list. I don't think it's reasonable for an IPMC member who is exercising oversight in the specific case of a new committer to be required to

Re: Incubator reports

2007-06-20 Thread Craig L Russell
I notice that we already have a place where we can put structured information. Each project has a project.xml file where the status is recorded. This file gets transformed into the project.html file for the site. All we need to do is to decide on an xml tag that identifies the reporting

Re: Podling Committer policy

2007-06-20 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Upayavira, On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Upayavira wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Getting back to my original comment, I don't see how the IPMC can meaningfully participate in a discussion or vote held on the PPMC private mailing list. I don't think it's reasonable for an IPMC member

Re: Expansion of the Ode PPMC

2007-06-19 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Niclas, It's great that you were able to get this organized and back on track. There is a file that tracks PPMC membership at committers/board/ incubator-info.txt that should also be updated. Regards, Craig On Jun 19, 2007, at 7:48 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: FYI, The ODE PPMC has been

Re: Podling Committer policy

2007-06-19 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:37 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/7/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All very good suggestions. ant elder wrote: How about changing it so; (1) incubator-private is notified that discussion of a new committer is starting on the poddling's

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:29 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/9/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: We subsequently changed the bootstrap process. I'd have to go back to the archives, but late October 2006, I

Re: Missing reports

2007-06-15 Thread Craig L Russell
By the way, one of the things we've recently added to the graduation guide is to clean out remnants of the graduated podling from e.g. reporting schedules. When the graduated project adds itself to the board schedule it should remove itself from the incubator schedule. Craig On Jun 15,

Re: [proposal] new and improved graduation guide

2007-06-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martijn, 1. Several of the links are broken; not sure if these are because of your edits or because they're not relative. But they should be double- checked. 2. Some of the details on removing the podling from incubation have been removed in your proposal. For one thing, I'd like to

Re: [vote] Jeff Genender as a Committer on CXF

2007-06-09 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Dan Diephouse wrote: Hiya, We started this vote (and another one for Christopher Moesel which I just sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a while back on CXF-dev, and we've been unable to gain the necessary number of IPMC votes necessary to close the votes.

Re: [vote] Christopher Moesel as committer on CXF

2007-06-09 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:25 PM, Dan Diephouse wrote: Hiya, We started this vote (and a second one for Jeff Genender which I will forward in a moment) a while back on CXF-dev, and we've been unable to gain the necessary number of IPMC votes necessary to close the votes. Right now we

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:24 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Cool :) So should we have a vote on ode-dev then? shrug Sometimes I think that we get a bit vote happy. Is this really something that is in need of a vote? E.g., is this a policy decision, karma grant or code release? Does

Re: To vote or not to vote

2007-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
hard to claim consensus if there is only one voice. So I suggested that the project get a new Mentor in order to get the PPMC to work. Which brought us to this point where there is (still) no defined process to get a new Mentor on a podling. Craig [1] On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Craig L

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