The wording in the Policy was deliberately non-procedural, as the
Incubator PMC decided that policy belongs in the policy document and
process belongs elsewhere. So as far as I'm concerned, this discussion
is not supposed to have an answer.
So Bill's analysis is as valid as anyone else's.
Hi Noel,
This is the kind of thing that IMHO we need to clarify in our written
doc.
If a Mentor is not a PMC chair or an svnadmin, what should we suggest?
If no Mentor is authorized to update the file, send email to
incubator-general and request someone update the file
If no Mentor is
+1 to release.
I've reviewed the vote thread on the podling dev alias and the
comments on the incubator alias and don't see anything to block this
release. Many suggestions for improvement but no blockers.
Craig
On Jan 13, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
Incubator PMC:
The River
On Jan 14, 2008, at 2:58 AM, sebb wrote:
The NOTICE files need to be updated for 2008, i.e. replace 2007 with
2007-2008 on line 3.
Not a blocker for me.
The hash files use a format which is difficult to use, as the hashes
may be split over two lines.
The common MD5 format is either
2008-January JSPWiki Incubator status report
JSPWiki has been incubating since September 2007.
JSPWiki is a JSP-based wiki program.
JSPWiki 2.6 LGPL was finally released just before Christmas, so the
development
could finally be moved to the Apache Incubation SVN. The code is
expected
to
2008-January Imperius Incubator status report
Imperius has been incubating since November 2007.
Imperius is a rule-based infrastructure management tool
Infrastructure has been set up. Mailing lists are operational.
The repository has been set up, and the first code drop has arrived.
Work is
2008-January Sanselan Incubator status report
Sanselan has been in incubation since September 2007.
Sanselan is a pure-java image library for reading and writing
a variety of image formats.
The community is still small, with a few more members now compared
to the beginning.
The code base has
Hi Matthieu,
You've convinced me.
+1 for www.apache.org/dist/incubator/{podling}
Craig
On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
On Jan 6, 2008 2:01 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Jan 2, 2008 11:24 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
clan.net wrote:
+1 to accept BlueSky into incubation
Good luck,
Craig
On Jan 5, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote:
Thanks to everyone who made contributions to this proposal and
special thanks to Niclas and Aaron for stepping up as mentors. The
project is documented here:
+1 to release.
I verified the signature and ran RAT on the artifacts. No issues.
A few notes:
0. Good work for your first release at Apache. Congratulations to the
team.
1. This message doesn't contain a direct link to the release being
voted on. It would be good to include the link
Hi Niall,
Your vote on tika-dev is a vote in favor. When the vote is tallied,
your vote as a member counts.
Unless you want to change your mind... ;-)
Craig
On Jan 1, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
+1 to the release (I already voted on tika-dev - wasn't sure whether
its needed
Hi,
On Dec 31, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/
Incubation_Policy.html#Setting+Up+a+New+Podling
falls somewhere between guideance and policy. given that process
mistakes have been made (eg.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1341)
2007-December Imperius Incubator status report
Imperius has been incubating since November 2007.
Imperius is a rule-based infrastructure management tool
Infrastructure has been partly set up. Mailing lists for dev, commits,
private, and user are operational. The repository has been set up.
+1
Craig
On Dec 10, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
[ ] +1 Approve the below proposal and code migration to Apache
Geronimo and CXF respectively
[ ] 0 No opinion
[ ] -1 Do not approve of the move (please provide rationale
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System
On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007 6:29 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since there has been no discussion, and this is a change to policy
Discussion to what? I see the RAT set up thread, but there was no
discussion of a general policy
+1
Craig
On Nov 28, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Brian McCallister wrote:
[ ] +1 Accept Shindig for incubation
[ ] 0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Reject for the following reason :
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A
Hi Upayavira,
On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:28 AM, Upayavira wrote:
I think that Someone needs to be responsible for these things, and I
don't see that the IPMC in general or the IPMC chair specifically
needs to have anything to do with them.
If the podling is interested in getting its infra setup,
Hi,
I recently became aware of yet another unsynchronized incubator
artifact, the mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know anything
about it except that it's apparently months out of date.
What do we do about this? Should we add a paragraph to the graduation
guide Steps outside the
Hi Robert,
On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On Nov 19, 2007 11:23 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Robert,
On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On Nov 18, 2007 11:44 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just one question
On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Since there has been no discussion, and this is a change to policy
Discussion to what? I see the RAT set up thread, but there was no
discussion of a general policy change. Robert said that
infrastructure
approval should probably rest
See Robert's message earlier in which he asked if he could set up the
RAT project even though he's not a Mentor on RAT.
He's not a Mentor, but he has all the karma anyone would want.
Craig
On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Nov 21, 2007 5:03 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL
Hi,
Some of the discussion here to me seems to be backward: adding
constraints to the entry of a podling to the incubator.
I'd hope that we could get podlings, including all of their current
community, into the incubator and then actively mentor/monitor its
activities to promote
Hi Robert,
On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:14 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On Nov 18, 2007 11:44 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just one question. Why are you not a mentor for this project? I don't
see anything in the rules against it, and I believe it will be easier
all around
robert burrell donkin (*)
+1 Matthias Wessendorf
+1 Niklas Gustavsson
+1 Luciano Resende
+1 Brett Porter (*)
+1 Matthieu Riou (*)
+1 Thilo Goetz
+1 Richard S. Hall
+1 Martijn Dashorst (*)
+1 Kevan Miller (*)
+1 Matt Hogstrom (*)
+1 Craig L Russell (*)
+1 Yoav Shapira (*)
+1 Niall Pemberton
+1 Stefan
+1
Craig
On Nov 18, 2007, at 4:19 PM, ant elder wrote:
On Nov 16, 2007 2:10 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:09 AM, Raymond Feng wrote:
Hi, Kevan.
Thank you for the review. We have fixed the issue and republished a
RC5a at:
SVN Tag:
On Nov 16, 2007, at 5:40 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Nov 16, 2007 2:36 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Would it be reasonable to expect that a file called CHANGES contains
implied content?
I do not know what you mean by implied
I meant that CHANGES can be assumed
I notice in the Tuscany SCA RAT report:
!? 1.0.1-RC5a/distribution/src/main/release/CHANGES
Would it be reasonable to expect that a file called CHANGES contains
implied content?
Regards,
Craig
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408
2007-November JSPWiki Incubator status report
JSPWiki infrastructure has been moved over to Apache: the issue trackers
and the mailing lists are now fully operational. We've also started
the process
of getting ICLAs and Software Grants from all the previous
contributors who still
hold
2007-November Sanselan Incubator status report
The autoexport from confluence to our site has been set up (see
http://incubator.apache.org/sanselan/) so documenation
can be added soon.
We are looking for images (with no copyright restrictions) that
can be used for unit testing. Existing
Hi,
On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Another thing that worries me a bit is projects coming in with a large
(N=more than 3 or 5?) number of committers from the same organization,
especially people who have no previous Apache or open source committer
experience. Do we
+1
It will be nice to see some Ruby development here.
Craig
On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:29 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Hi,
Following up on the proposal discussed at [1] I'd like to call for
a vote to
incubate Buildr. Buildr is a simple and intuitive build system for
Java
projects written in
+1
you go, rat-man.
Craig
On Oct 30, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into
the incubator
- robert
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL
Hi,
Some background on the web of trust (wot) that ASF uses for signers
of code releases is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust
You correctly point out that the icla is a binding document in which
the party signing the document grants certain intellectual property
rights to the
of, related to
projects that I can fix, and add or update project roles.
Perhaps this would be a good thing for an incubator guide, since most
jira projects now are established in the incubator.
Craig
On Oct 27, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On 10/23/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL
Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the
capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination...
But in the end, I'll defer to the authors.
Craig
On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool!
-- dims
On 10/25/07, Matthias
+1
Good luck,
Craig
On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Hi,
The proposal for Composer has been drafted here:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ComposerProposal
As mentioned previously, both containers are heavily used, both
have always lived as open source projects. Plexus
Hi Janne,
I'm copying the incubator general list for feedback from others with
more experience in ICLA vs. Software Grant...
On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:47 AM, Janne Jalkanen wrote:
Perhaps you can recap the status of the code. Was most of the code
written by a small number of people? Were
On Oct 16, 2007, at 4:05 PM, Simon Nash wrote:
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
Not to go down a rat hole but I think that clarifying the
affiliations needs some refinement. On Apache Geronimo we have a
few committers that work for IBM but their participation is not
part of their day job.
, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
I do think it would be good to clarify the meaning of
affiliations, and make it more flexible.
This topic has been kicked around for a while. Is there some
consensus that affiliation is project-specific, such that a
committer can be independent
+1 for graduation.
Craig
On Oct 14, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Martin Sebor wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't
believe
that we should release a project with existing copyright
issues. If
On Oct 13, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Martin,
After reviewing
http://www.nabble.com/-VOTE--ready-to-graduate-
tf4386148.html#a12504335
I have two issues. First:
Martin Sebor wrote:
Bill Rowe wrote:
With a caviat - I'd expect the crew to run the next possible release
Here's the incubator status report for JSPWiki
2007-October JSPWiki Incubator status report
The project has kicked off with some basic infrastructure now in place.
Mailing lists have been set up and subscriptions from the previous
mailing
lists are being transferred.
The svn repository is
Here's the report for Sanselan.
2007-October Sanselan Incubator status report
The project has kicked off with some basic infrastructure now in place.
Mailing lists have been set up. The structure of the project has been
discussed; plans are to use maven using Jackrabbit as a model.
A site was
On Oct 8, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
Should Ivy be allowed to graduate as an Ant Subproject?
[ X] Yes
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
smime.p7s
Description:
Hi,
I'm currently mentoring two other projects, so it's not clear how
much time I can put in.
With that disclaimer, I'm happy to volunteer as a mentor.
Craig
On Oct 8, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote:
Thanks Filip. Would like one more mentor... anyone?
Bill
Filip at Apache
+1
Craig
On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
infrastructure asks that all official releases are distributed from
subdirectories of /www.apache.org/dist. this means that infrastructure
team can gaurantee the availability and security of releases. podling
releases are
+1
While reviewing the patch again I noticed a typo in the material that
refers to the new guides/graduation. I don't think a new vote is
needed...
Gradation Guide
should be
Graduation Guide
Craig
On Oct 4, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
ATM the policy document ()
Nothing wrong with a Rat as an apache project.
Craig
On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
i'm preparing http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal but i
thought i'd get the most controvercial and difficult aspect out of the
way: the name.
i quite like the name RAT
On Oct 2, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On 10/1/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/30/07, Bill Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...Nominated Mentors
-Bill Stoddard([EMAIL PROTECTED])...
Are we willing to accept a podling with just one mentor?
Hi,
This probably belongs on a different list, but incubator seems to be
a good place to get the answer.
The software grant form http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-
grant.txt does not have a fax number or address built in, unlike the
ICLA form http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
+1
Craig
On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Bill Stoddard wrote:
Greetings from North Carolina on a bright, beautiful, sunny fall day!
Thank You to all those who gave comments on the proposal. I made
one small tweak; Tomcat, rather than Geronimo, should be one of the
first bindings.
Please
On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:28 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
One of the purpose of the incubator is to ensure that there is a
sustainable developer community, so I don't see failure of incubating
projects as a real problem.
+1.
If we knew for sure that a project would be able to attract a
On 9/25/07, Doug Cutting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to call the Incubator PMC to vote to incubate the
proposed
Pig project. Discussion on this list evidenced broad interest in this
project, which bodes well for its ability to build a diverse developer
community.
Speaking just for myself, I find the name unusual but not offensive
or even provocative. The fact that you wouldn't eat an animal doesn't
mean you deny its existence...
Of course, I thought the language was officially called igpay atinlay.
Craig
On Sep 24, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Doug Cutting
I think Imperius is a great Apache project name.
And it's good that you included references to the IP policy.
Craig
On Sep 21, 2007, at 6:56 PM, David L Kaminsky wrote:
All,
I updated the proposal to include the new proposed project name.
Imperius
seems
to be cleaner than the
On Sep 18, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:
Garrett Rooney wrote:
(if anything it seems like a new TLP
associated with hadoop and generic distributed computing tools like
pig that are built on top of hadoop seems like it would make more
sense than just a pig TLP),
Yes, I agree. But
Hi David,
Thanks for the clarifications.
On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote:
On the standard itself, not surprisingly, the DMTF encourages
implementations, and at submission, the DMTF requires this text:
Permission to copy, display, perform, modify and distribute the
://www.dmtf.org/about/policies/patent-10-18-01.pdf
The DMTF does not have any IP in any of its specs and
unless DMTF is explicitly notified of such, neither do any of
the members.
-- mark
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi David,
Thanks for the clarifications.
On Sep 17, 2007, at 5:57 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote
Hi Dave,
On Sep 17, 2007, at 1:53 PM, Dave wrote:
I will go ahead and submit the mailing list and subversion space
requests to the Infrastructure JIRA. I'll take a look at the latest
Incubator docs first and Roller's old request as an example before I
do that.
What else should we be doing now
Hi,
A few comments on this proposal.
On Sep 14, 2007, at 11:11 AM, David L Kaminsky wrote:
The design of SPL, a Preliminary DMTF standard, is inspired by
existing policy languages and models including PDL (policy definition
language) from Bell Laboratories, the Ponder policy language from
In the projects/incubation-status-template.xml Interim
responsibility, I find this bit of setup.
projects/incubation-status-template.xml
Give all Mentors access to the incubator SVN repository. (to be done
by PMC chair)
/projects/incubation-status-template.xml
Seems to me that this is a
Hi Noel,
On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Craig Russell asked:
projects/incubation-status-template.xml
Give all Mentors access to the incubator SVN repository.
(to be done by PMC chair)
/projects/incubation-status-template.xml
That ought to mean adding them to the
+1 for incubation.
It's clear to me from the discussion here that the prospective
project is aware of most of the IP, licensing, and third party issues
that we deal with at Apache, and I welcome the opportunity to have
them continue work in Apache.
I'll even volunteer to help mentor if
I'd count Snoop Dave Johnson as a binding vote, being Incubator PMC.
Time's up. Go for't.
Craig
On Sep 11, 2007, at 7:41 PM, Dave wrote:
The proposal was posted Aug. 29, we're up to 4 or 5 binding +1 votes
now and no -1 vote have been cast.
Binding:
+1 Craig Russell
+1 Noel Bergman
+1
Hi Noel,
I read the page [1] and it says that this is for existing projects.
Is there a different page describing the process for incubating
projects? I couldn't find it in Policy, Roles, Process, or Guides.
Thanks,
Craig
On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
cziegeler
On Sep 10, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Craig.Russell wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
cziegeler committed:
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=574186view=rev
Log: Add ip-clearance document for sanselan.
[1] See also: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
My
+1
Craig
On Sep 2, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
As described in [1], please acknowledge this request to enter the
Sling project into incubation. The Jackrabbit PMC has voted (see the
vote request [2] and results [3]) to approve the Sling project (see
the proposal [4]) for
+1
Craig
On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Please cast your votes:
[ ] +1 Accept this project into the incubator
[ ] -1 No, because
Thanks
Carsten
Proposal Draft
--
= Sanselan, a Pure-Java Image Library =
Craig Russell
DB PMC, OpenJPA
Hi Marshall,
When I looked into Java signing and found it to be too burdensome.
There are two basic issues with it that made me think that it wasn't
suitable for use with Apache projects:
1. The certificates are the keys to the kingdom. Whoever has the
ability to use the certificates
+1
Craig
On Aug 9, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote:
+1
On 8/8/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 8/6/07, kelvin goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Tuscany project requests permission of the IPMC to release
the SDO
Java 1.0-incubating release. The vote
Hi Steve,
There is plenty of information on the incubator web site. I suggest
reading
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html (not
normative)
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/
Incubation_Policy.html#Releases (normative)
The references below are more discussions on
Hi Matthieu,
On Jul 31, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
I'd rather have all the specific licenses each
in there file reproduced side by side with the library the license is
applied on (with similar namings, i.e. dom4j-1.3.LICENSE) and a simple
pointer in the main LICENSE file (licenses
Hi,
I'll be happy to mentor this project. I've added my name to the wiki.
Regards,
Craig
On Jul 26, 2007, at 11:42 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Hi,
together with Charles M. Chen I came up with a proposal to move the
great open source java image library, Sanselan, to Apache.
You'll find all
On Jul 26, 2007, at 9:27 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
On 7/26/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi *,
we have a situation over at the MyFaces project which is a pretty
straightforward code-grant.
Oracle wants to donate the code of a JSF-portlet-bridge which would
fit well
+1
This page is really good and should be promoted.
Craig
On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:38 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
+1
On 7/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html is marked DRAFT but
it seems good enough to be promoted to a
Hi Guillaume,
In my opinion, there is no real damage done. You can fix the problem
by forwarding the ServiceMix graduation request message to general at
incubator and to the dev ServiceMix alias. I'd assume that there are
very few people who will be surprised to get the message. ;-)
In
Hi Martijn,
On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
On 7/16/07, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
there's an argument that this material would be better in the main
apache site. i recommend checking with community.
Hmm, the transferring resources and establishing
Hi Niclas,
I gave you jira-administrator permissions. Use the force wisely.
Craig
On Jul 11, 2007, at 1:37 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Can I be granted Karma to resolve and close issues?
Thanks
--
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er
I work here;
; and be it further
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator ODE podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
PMC are hereafter discharged.
On 7/9/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just one question: Who is John Smith and what are his
qualifications
Just one question: Who is John Smith and what are his qualifications
to be PMC chair?
Craig
On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote:
Hi all,
This is a vote to recommend Apache ODE for graduation as a top
level project to the Apache Board.
Since the first days of our graduation
+1
It's ready.
Craig
On Jul 8, 2007, at 8:40 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
we've been working on
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html for a while now and
i think it's good enough now to be promoted from draft status and
added to the documentation indexes. status doesn't
+1
Craig
On Jul 6, 2007, at 1:02 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
Hi,
The previously mentioned [1] Graffito community vote to retire the
project due to lack of activity has ended with a recommendation to
retire the project [2]. I would like to call the Incubator PMC to
ratify this decision. Please
Hi,
On Jul 2, 2007, at 2:10 AM, J Aaron Farr wrote:
Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The thread has died down with no consensus, so I'm going to try
again.
I apologize for being absent from these threads for the last month.
Life got busy and one of the things that got dropped
The thread has died down with no consensus, so I'm going to try again.
Regarding how a Podling can get a new to Apache committer. First,
the rules:
1. Only the Incubator PMC can vote in a new committer, with three +1
and no -1 votes recorded.
2. All Incubator PMC members should be able
Hi Martijn,
On Jun 30, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
On 6/30/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have I missed any?
Not according to me, perhaps only that adding a PPMC member should
follow the same procedure.
No, the PPMC is a different beast entirely
+1
Craig
On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:15 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
I have changed the proposal to indicate that initial source will not
be made available until the software grant is executed. Other than
that, the proposal is unchanged from the original submission. Full
text is attached below.
Votes,
On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:19 AM, David Reid wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
On Jun 27, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Does such a thing as a what to do now you're a tlp faq exist?
Yes, it's called http://incubator.apache.org/guides/
graduation.html and
updates to the section
http
My only concern is with the name, which is surprisingly and
unfortunately similar to JSR. When I saw the acronym I immediately
thought you were proposing a new Java TM Specification Request.
Actually, if you google java jrs you find things like this: This
project consists in a java JRS-168
Getting back to my original comment, I don't see how the IPMC can
meaningfully participate in a discussion or vote held on the PPMC
private mailing list. I don't think it's reasonable for an IPMC
member who is exercising oversight in the specific case of a new
committer to be required to
I notice that we already have a place where we can put structured
information. Each project has a project.xml file where the status
is recorded. This file gets transformed into the project.html file
for the site.
All we need to do is to decide on an xml tag that identifies the
reporting
Hi Upayavira,
On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Upayavira wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
Getting back to my original comment, I don't see how the IPMC can
meaningfully participate in a discussion or vote held on the PPMC
private mailing list. I don't think it's reasonable for an IPMC
member
Hi Niclas,
It's great that you were able to get this organized and back on track.
There is a file that tracks PPMC membership at committers/board/
incubator-info.txt that should also be updated.
Regards,
Craig
On Jun 19, 2007, at 7:48 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
FYI,
The ODE PPMC has been
On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:37 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 6/7/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All very good suggestions.
ant elder wrote:
How about changing it so;
(1) incubator-private is notified that discussion of a new
committer is
starting on the poddling's
Hi Robert,
On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:29 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 6/9/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:16 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We subsequently changed the bootstrap process. I'd have to go back
to the
archives, but late October 2006, I
By the way, one of the things we've recently added to the graduation
guide is to clean out remnants of the graduated podling from e.g.
reporting schedules. When the graduated project adds itself to the
board schedule it should remove itself from the incubator schedule.
Craig
On Jun 15,
Hi Martijn,
1. Several of the links are broken; not sure if these are because of
your edits or because they're not relative. But they should be double-
checked.
2. Some of the details on removing the podling from incubation have
been removed in your proposal. For one thing, I'd like to
+1
Craig
On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Dan Diephouse wrote:
Hiya,
We started this vote (and another one for Christopher Moesel which
I just
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) a while back on CXF-dev, and we've been
unable to
gain the necessary number of IPMC votes necessary to close the
votes.
+1
Craig
On Jun 8, 2007, at 12:25 PM, Dan Diephouse wrote:
Hiya,
We started this vote (and a second one for Jeff Genender which I will
forward in a moment) a while back on CXF-dev, and we've been unable
to gain
the necessary number of IPMC votes necessary to close the votes.
Right now
we
Hi Noel,
On Jun 7, 2007, at 10:24 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Cool :) So should we have a vote on ode-dev then?
shrug
Sometimes I think that we get a bit vote happy. Is this really
something
that is in need of a vote? E.g., is this a policy decision, karma
grant or
code release? Does
hard to claim consensus if there is only one voice.
So I suggested that the project get a new Mentor in order to get the
PPMC to work. Which brought us to this point where there is (still)
no defined process to get a new Mentor on a podling.
Craig
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