On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Richard Frovarp rfrov...@apache.org wrote:
A lot of wind was taken out of the sails in the fights to get the IPMC votes
necessary to finish a release. We had two votes, but needed
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org
wrote:
...Including the patch below...
Sorry to come in late but
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:16 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12 Jul 2014, at 8:05, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
That's actually the part of the thread that I have a lot of interest in.
Is there
to see what happens and from that
find what sort of rule might work?
...ant
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:01 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Right, and thats why i don't think a rule like that would be useful.
I
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014, at 04:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
Hi!
Sorry for a belated reply -- at first I was following Doug's rule
and then I got
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
Hi!
Sorry for a belated reply -- at first I was following Doug's rule
and then I got distracted ;-)
That said -- I really would like to drive us to some kind
consensus (even if we have to do the vote) because
the
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 24 Jun 2014, at 21:27, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
On 24 Jun 2014, at 7:24, Roman
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
FWIW as far as I am concerned, you can 'conditionally' sign off on a
report, that is, with comments, if there's things you need to say.
Upayavira
+1 to that. And its still over a week till the baord meeting and lots of
+1
Looks ok to me
...ant
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Klevenz, Stephan
stephan.klev...@sap.comwrote:
No progress on Olingo's release vote. Still one binding vote is missing.
What else can we do to get it done?
Regards,
Stephan
On 06.02.14 23:01, Marvin Humphrey
Also, why doesn't Olingo go for graduation? I had a little look around the
project and don't see anything holding it up.
...ant
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:35 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Looks ok to me
...ant
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Klevenz, Stephan
Obviously +1 from me on doing experiments, and -1 for the silly policy
update stuff.
...ant
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
Greetings,
As the next step in our ongoing efforts to reform the release voting
process,
I propose that we run an
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
wrote:
So...
* Ant likes the voting rule change, but is opposed to the checklist.
I'm also opposed to updating the policy document, so will
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:18 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm also opposed to updating the policy document, so will be voting against
this just for that. Its just an experiment so you don't need to be making a
permanent change to the policy page to try
The N word wasn't particularly helpful or constructive, sorry. I do think
the policy page should be kept simple and generic though, so isn't the
place to be describing this experiment.
...ant
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:39 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Well sorry but IMHO thats
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
For a release tagged with the incubating
label and disclaimer, filing bugs rather than blocking seems reasonable.
I may have edited away more than you like but yes - filing bugs rather
than blocking is the approach
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:34 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I know you're passionate about this Marvin but as it stands I'll be
voting against this proposal.
I plan to propose this as an experiment
Well
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
If we deleted every
release from the main Foundation distro area that had some divergence
from some policy, no matter how tiny, my suspicion is that the distro
area would become rather sparse.
Yes quite. And
releases it would make a massive improvement to
everyones experience of the Incubator.
...ant
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
All the stuff required to be checked when voting
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
...2) Podlings should normally graduate after the first release (and we
should more proactively do that) not stay to do more...
I
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:38 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 December 2013 10:37, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com
I'm in favour of trying this. And its just experiment remember so not
a change for ever for all podlings so please people try to support it
or at least not try to block it.
...ant
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
The possibility of an experiment
Do these sort of experiments really need consensus? The Incubator PMC
is so big and diverse now it makes getting consensus on some things
all most impossible, after the change a little while back we don't
even need consensus for voting in new Incubator PMC members now.
...ant
On Sat, Nov 23,
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:33 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
I think this is getting too hung up on vetting releases
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
Still, this isn't the hill I want to die on. I think that starting with an
empty PPMC is good policy for a variety of reasons, but I'm willing to be
flexible for the sake of building consensus on how to address the
, at 4:34 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
The reason it might be dis-empowering is that currently one of the main
roles of the PPMC is voting in new committers so if the PPMC is initially
just the mentors then the other podling members wont be involved in that.
It might still
The reason it might be dis-empowering is that currently one of the main
roles of the PPMC is voting in new committers so if the PPMC is initially
just the mentors then the other podling members wont be involved in that.
It might still be worth trying the approach as an experiment if a willing
Hi Benson,
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
If the board were offering us another structural approach, this would
be a different discussion. But, unless I've gotten lost in the torrent
of email, the board isn't offering an alternative.
Yep you
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:08 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
What i'd like to try is more similar to the pTLP approach previously
talked about. So take some existing podling, eg Stratos and/or
VXQuery
. Lets give it a try.
What do you say?
...ant
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
On Nov 13, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:58 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
So, we _can_ let podlings
of the full committee,
not any one member of it.
On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2013, at 1:04 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
How about simply changing the rules for Incubator releases so that
they don't require at least three binding
0.2 passes after more
than 72 hours with 3 +1 votes of IPMC members (Jochen Wiedmann, Ant Elder,
Marvin Humphrey) and no 0 or -1 votes.
The vote thread on vxquery-dev can be found here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-vxquery-dev/201310.mbox/%3C511917E5-9FC9-4B6C-9DE3
How about simply changing the rules for Incubator releases so that
they don't require at least three binding votes, but instead make it
at least three votes only one of which must be binding. That would
mean there would still be the element of oversight that a mentor vote
gives but avoids all the
to be a decision of the full committee,
not any one member of it.
On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Nov 10, 2013, at 1:04 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
How about simply changing the rules for Incubator releases so that
they don't require at least
Ha ha ha ha. Does the same also apply to maintaining the records, for
clutch, the vote monitoring and other tools, signing reports, writing
reports for that matter, and all the other aspects of the incubator -
all of that might get done eventually one day if people can ever find
the time, don't
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to
reward merit earned by individual podling contributors.
Idea: Allow for
:
HI Ant,
On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:03 AM, ant elder wrote:
Dave/Vinayak,
My understanding is that the ODC-BY license only needs to be run by ASF
legal if there is a concern about it, I've read the license when voting
on
this and AFAICT its fine (and the package is not being modified so
/**dist/release/incubator/**vxquery/KEYShttps://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/vxquery/KEYS
The vote on vxquery-dev passed [1] with
+1 (binding)
Vinayak Borkar
Cezar Andrei
Jochen Wiedmann (IPMC)
Ant Elder (IPMC)
-1
none
Please vote
[ ] +1 release this package as apache
Hi Vinayak, I offered to help mentor if necessary when VXQuery came up a
few weeks ago so i can help with this. I'll go have a look at whats going
on and help.
...ant
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Vinayak Borkar vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Incubator,
The VXQuery podling is
I closed LEGAL-178 with the resolution Not A Problem, which is quite
different to a resolution of Fixed or Resolved or Answered.
From my investigation, things like the text of the AL and various posts in
the mailing lists over the years answered the question to my satisfaction.
I doubt everyone
of the
Apache Chukwa Project:
* Ahmed Fathalla (afathalla)
* Alan D. Cabrera (adc)
* Ant Elder (antelder)
* Ariel Rabkin (asrabkin)
* Bill Graham (billgraham)
* Eric Yang (eyang)
* Grace Huang (grace.huang)
* Ivy Tang (ivytang
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote:
As Tim and Luciano have already stated, artifacts which were not voted on
by
the IPMC cannot continue to be distributed though our channels.
Is that actually the case? AIUI the ASF only releases open source code.
:19 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Tim, one of the things we're trying to teach podlings is how to handle
disputes and resolve problems in a happy respectful manner. You've out
of the blue come on to their dev list without introducing yourself
demanding that something that happened
william...@gmail.com wrote:
Moving this[1] to general@
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:55 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, September 14, 2013, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Eric,
I've included references inline for your convenience. I'll once again
[strongly
...@rectangular.com
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:42 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org
wrote:
ant elder wrote:
Hi Marvin, I had a look, that README being pointed to is just build
instructions on how to build the svn trunk isn't it, so not to some
released artifacts. Thats allowed isn't
it in less than a day, so all
credit to them for keeping on trying.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:46 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for doing that so promptly Till.
...ant
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Till Westmann t...@westmann.org wrote:
Just for the record: The website
to be a mentor to help try to keep them alive if they
want to keep trying.
...ant
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 2:01 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
To me VXQuery looks like an example of a project being let down
Hi Marvin, I had a look, that README being pointed to is just build
instructions on how to build the svn trunk isn't it, so not to some
released artifacts. Thats allowed isn't it, i'm pretty sure other projects
and podlings have done something similar anyway. Is it that the website
describes it as
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:24 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been away so a little slow in finishing this but i have just now made
an update to the guide, see
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view
I've been away so a little slow in finishing this but i have just now made
an update to the guide, see
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1508433
This does not include anything yet for the request from Bertrand to still
require at least one mentor vote but instead goes more
process they
deem appropriate. Case in point is the Subversion process,
which essentially promotes new committers through lazy
consensus alone.
IOW +1 to roll back to pre-May 1, 2007.
- Original Message -
From: ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc
Ok seems everyone so far is ok with changing this, so how far can this go...
In the experiment Joe commented ...basically rolling back the clock
to May 1, 2007 on guides/ppmc.html which is this change
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/guides/ppmc.xml?r1=517024r2=542806
Looking at the Voting in a new committer section at
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html i see that its been
updated since i last looked and now says the Incubator PMC should be
notified twice when a podling is voting in a new committer, once at
the start of the vote and again with the
+1
...ant
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
juanpa...@apache.org wrote:
Hi all,
The Apache JSPWiki podling is a project which holds a feature-rich and
extensible WikiWiki engine, built around the standard Java EE components
Java, Servlets, and Java Server
Yay, well done!
Almost 6 years, must be well incubated by now.
...ant
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
juanpablo.san...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
a quick email to inform that we've just started the community graduation
vote at jspwiki-dev :-)
br,
juan
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:
He said majority, not everybody ant. Try a little harder to
understand the written words instead of needing to interject
your dissonant 2 cents and things will improve around here.
Don't be so abrasive Joe, I'm a
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
It seems clear that the majority of IPMC members believe this change
on a vote in progress is not acceptable.
Don't assume its that clear, i think at least some agree with you that this
is just ISSUE3 and kept
+1
...ant
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1].
I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter
the incubator as a standard podling under the existing
I'm also +1 (and excited!) on trying out this as a probationary TLPs, and
with doing that using the approaches outlined by Ross and others in other
emails on this thread (which is basically having a vote now to accept this
as a podling so we can get started and then working up a probationary TLP
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hey Alan,
Great question if there is an official policy here. My read is
that no it's based on tribal knowledge and informal assumption.
There is an official policy which is documented on the
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple as that.
If only.
This is the old what goes in the NOTICE file debate that has
probably caused more emails and confusion than any other topic here.
My understanding of the current thinking on this is to only include
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 4, 2013 4:22 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple as that.
If only.
This is the old what goes in the NOTICE file debate that has
[
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13672933#comment-13672933
]
ant elder commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-33:
The Incubator podling
that.
...ant
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:36 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term
retired is reasonably well understood now and mentioned
I think a lot of the poddling occurrences might be down to me and my
atrocious spelling and getting it wrong so often i don't even notice it
looks wrong now. I'll try to proofread more closely.
...ant
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:32 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
I keep seeing the word
From the subject line I thought this was going to be another attempt to
sort out the incubator :-/
...ant
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.comwrote:
Dear ASF members,
We would like to propose MetaModel for the incubator.
Matt Franklin will be the
I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term
retired is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various places
in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is?
Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really
Its good that we can help keep BeanShell going by bring it to the ASF, but
my vote here is -1.
There was some discussion on this proposal back in April and one of the
last emails there was this one saying:
If the intention is to have Beanshell become a part of Apache Commons then
the IPMC feels
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 5:46 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote:
I'll be the first to admit that I haven't been following along with the
progress of this project at all, but I happened to notice that, according
to the incubator projects page, this project has been in incubation for
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Eric Johnson e...@tibco.com wrote:
If this was a software project, and the appropriate answer was unknown, they
you might apply a lean startup approach, and figure out how to run tests
to see which way works best.
Given the number of incubating projects,
at 2:39 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Eric Johnson e...@tibco.com wrote:
If this was a software project, and the appropriate answer was unknown,
they
you might apply a lean startup approach, and figure out how to run tests
to see which way works
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
If you think it's clear in either direction, call a VOTE. I think that's
the only demonstrable way to suggest what's clear and what's not.
Please see several emails from Greg and others on the board@ list
recently
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt.
In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if
those
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt.
In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if
those discussions drove some of us to distraction.
A bit before the wiki crashed,
Come back after being away its a bit hard to tell where this vote is but i
think its still open and you're wondering what to do.
+1 on the release from me.
I see the issues being discussed about the legal docs and i see on you're
addressing them as much as you can workout and nothing looks like
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
On 3 April 2013 14:41, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored?
Whenever I
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
Just a thought.
Chris' solution says 'make mentors the initial PMC'. They vote in other
project team members as appropriate to be peers. This creates a positive
egalitarian setup which mirrors that of a PMC, which is a good
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:
Having said that, here's an idea that builds on your proposal. There is
already the opportunity to name the board as the sponsoring organisation.
Why not say where the board is willing to sponsor the project it can
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote:
As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem
is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach. (Primarily, I
understand, in relation to releases.)
Hi Noah, i suggested that one of
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ant. Is the documentation ignored? Whenever I
look through it, it seems like the problem is that it is incomplete and
confusing. It's hardly a wonder people disagree. ;) (This is just a bit of
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
Chris,
What I was trying to do with this particular thread is to identify the
problems the incubator has before deciding on solutions. If we can get a
common agreement on that, specific solutions will be much easier for us
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
As Doug points out, votes are structured away
from the status quo- we don't ever vote to
continue on with previously agreed to issues
just to circumvent the voting process.
Ok thanks Joe and Doug. So to be
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Matthias Friedrich m...@mafr.de wrote:
As someone who is relatively new to the ASF and who's first behind the
scenes contact with Apache was the incubation process, I can tell that
this is absolutely true. Podlings find themselves in a kafkaesque
world where
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
It appears to me that we have a consensus here on using a majority system
with a 3/4 supermajority. I'd like to establish the existence of this
consensus with a minimum of fuss, and begin to stop wasting everyone's
the window.
Please stop with all of these exaggerations and try to
self-moderate- half of the volume in these debates is all
you talking to yourself.
On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:18 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
No more so than they already had.
It does Joe, let me give you a more clear example.
Lets imagine i've done something that you deem shows i'm a terrible
incubator mentor, and its not the first time.
There's a big
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:52 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
Your second suggestion sounds like the thing to do to me - separating
IPMC-ship and Mentor-ship - that would solve several of the problems
we've being having including this one, it would open up a much bigger
pool
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Or it might 'work', but some might feel that this large,
diffuse, group, operating by majority rules is either inconsistent with
Apache policy or a bad example for the podlings.
Thats more how i see it. Using
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 27 March 2013 15:54, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Benson Margulies
bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, i propose we have an experiment [1] where we try having a mentor
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
following a thread on private@, I would like to bring the discussion
on how we vote on nominated IPMC members.
We had the case were one person was nominated and received three +1.
Another voter had concerns
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Matthias Friedrich m...@mafr.de wrote:
On Monday, 2013-03-25, Alex Karasulu wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
[...]
IMO it's the podlings who need to make sure they have enough mentor
energy available
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:
Now, you might argue that mentoring is a lot more than voting, but we
could create another bottleneck in getting release votes through,
requiring votes from incubator PMC members who are not particularly
focused on the
Please find that the MRQL mailing lists have been created and are
ready to be used for further discussion:
d...@mrql.incubator.apache.org
u...@mrql.incubator.apache.org
priv...@mrql.incubator.apache.org
Would everyone named on the proposal please go subscribe to them, and
happy MRQL'ing.
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.orgwrote:
We're also missing Ant Elder from the Nominated
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.orgwrote:
The required action has been taken, so let me close this thread again.
I apologize again for my mistake.
The Sponsors are changed as following:
== Champion ==
* Alex Karasulu akarasulu AT apache DOT org
==
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.orgwrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org
wrote:
could you please close the Create MRQL tasks in the Infra Jira until
the situation has been cleared up. Whenever this all has been
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:01 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org
wrote:
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Edward J. Yoon
edwardy
+1
...ant
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org
wrote:
Hi,
The EasyAnt community would like to graduate as an subproject of Ant.
The Ant PMC has just accepted:
I've already voted +1 for this on the easyant list but +1 again to bring
the vote up again. Still need one more vote please anyone...
...ant
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org
wrote:
This is a call for a vote of the release of EasyAnt
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
wrote:
On Wednesday, November 28, 2012, Greg Reddin wrote:
...What difference does it make to
the ASF if a project is very small or very slow?...
IMO, as long as there's three or more active PMC members who react
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:
I have only one point of discomfort with Ross' writing here.
Ross's position, in this and other messages, seems to me to be that it
a podling can persist indefinitely, so long as (a) it has involved
mentors, and
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