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contain their own POM, you can fully resolve the
> dependencies (transitive closure).
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Nope, that's what I'm doing to create avalon runtimes.
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you would need a
> standard installation and launch mechanism. I suppose something based
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> this, but I don't think it exists yet. Interesting idea though.
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> >I ask because I have an essay to present and I would like to run for the
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> Pete Kazmier wrote:
> > I believe you have omitted an individual from this list. Jason Van
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> > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTE
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> > The second I feel that the environment here at Apache has eroded to
> > the point where this is not possible I will not hesitate to propose
> > movement of the code to an e
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 10:40, Jason van Zyl wrote:
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> > Jason van Zyl wrote:
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> > >>and can't or won't comply with Apache
> > >>policies,
> > >
> > > I started removing the
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> >>and can't or won't comply with Apache
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On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 15:39, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> I'm moving this to PMC.
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> Jason van Zyl wrote, On 06/02/2003 19.15:
> > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 12:53, Costin Manolache wrote:
> ...
> > I'm not stopping anyone from participating. Nicola jumps out of
cause you're getting involved now please don't presume to know what we
have planned or what we have implemented. To toss out the -1, even
though not binding, without much backgroud information is shows heavy
bias. And that's fine, just be honest about it.
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> > member: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
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In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to
d to partecipate in the effort :-)
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about intensely and implemented. Do you ever wonder why we as Maven
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the dependency resolution code in Maven.
> Ted
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.. But can
> you build this into maven rather than in parallel?
The stuff in Maven can certainly be split out. As I said to Nick, it can
already handle generation changes, evolution and the dependency
mechanism in Maven already deals with non-JAR artifacts like WAR files,
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> > The Sun Binary Code License issue I am looking into personally and will
> > either 1) add a click through license handler 2) Add the
> > non-distributable JARs feature back in or 3) remove th
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 12:30, Jason van Zyl wrote:
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> > This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it.
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> > In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to
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I was poking around looking for the Jakarta Charter, is it kicking
around somewhere. I couldn't find it on the site and I want to use it as
a template for the db.apache.org charter.
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that we are predominantly going to
> > use an instance of the turbine based Scarab issue tracking system (from
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all a new version of Scarab so that it's available for
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On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 18:14, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
> I understood there wasn't any issue data in there anyway..
There are modules there that I didn't add so I'm just checking.
> Mvgr,
> Martin
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Hi,
Does anyone have anything critical they want saved in the old Scarab
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I'm ready to install a new version of Scarab so that it's available for
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we can dump it pretty easily. There is a #scarab chatroom on
irc.whichever.com:6667 if you want to chat about the details. Dan is
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Maven is going strong! 15 developers, 114 unit tests, and a staggering
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> > Hi,
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> > I am assuming that the formation of db.apache.org may still happen but
> > for appears that this will take a b
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> your choice, but I think it would be good if various database related
> proposals and technologies share the same top level porject
I would like to see that too.
> You have my +1 on the proposal anyway.
Cool :-)
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o An XML Schema and validation mechanism have been added.
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> > > CLI Collections Concurrent
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> > > That way we can easily navigate the site, and drill down quickly to
> > > the actual information we need.
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> > >
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&g
line would be the parent level, and the second line
> would be the current line. That way we can have something like
> this at the root level:
>
> Alexandria Avalon BCEL ...
>
> And at the sub-project level, we would be able to have something
> like this:
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> Jakar
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> I have created one with Pier's help just today, s
ere is a category
for BCEL.
-> Enter New Bug Report
-> BCEL (it is down the left column listed with the other components,
you might have missed it because there are so many components.
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> Ant isn't doing too many things that could take advantage of
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> >someone else replied. I would have taken it out. (as I just did.)
> >
> >and claim you can do better than
> > > these teams at creating this monumental amount of complex code
> >
> >No. I use a good amount of clear code.
> >
> > yet y
Hi,
Did someone get that list together of JARs that we can't distribute?
I removed the JAF jar from turbine's projects and David Taylor did it for
Jetspeed. Is it correct that the JDBC jar can't be distributed via CVS as
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>
> I would like to nominate Jason Van Zyl for the PMC. Jason is a current
> PMC member, is a (very) active Turbine developer, founded the Velocity
> project, has participated in any number o
the bug here for now.
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> version 1.0 - 17 Jan 2002
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Here's a summary of the PMC voting with respect to moving BCEL
to Jakarta:
[+1] Peter Donald
[+1] Pierpaolo Fumagalli
[+1]Ted Husted
[ ] Ceki Gülcü
[+1] Geir Magnusson Jr.
[ ] Vincent Massol
[+1] Craig McClanahan
[+1] Sam Ruby
[+1] Daniel Savarese
[+1] Jon Stevens
[+1] Jason va
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>> I want to distribute the JSSE jars with the Turbine Development Kit but I'm
>> not entirely sure if it&#
se only?
Here's the lic:
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>> It works fine, but there is a problem with the imports being placed in the
>> wrong place when there is text r
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
>
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Tom Copeland to fix this for me and he said he would get to it today. It
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Hi,
I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here:
http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta-bcel
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> There wasn't one for Lucene, but I'd like to get back on track. My
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> http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg00626.html
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Markus has just informed me that he has remove
pretty good. I volunteer to help with any of the bits
that might still need to be done.
> Cheers
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already made a first pass at organizing the source in a Jakarta
like format and I have offered to help with the rest of work if we agree to
accept the package into Jakarta.
So, for the movement of BCEL to apache I would like to vote
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On 10/1/01 11:31 AM, "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 10/1/01 7:56 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Many months ago I asked Markus Dahm whether or not he would be interested in
>> BCEL (Byte
On 10/1/01 11:50 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
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>> Many months ago I asked Markus Dahm whether or not he would be interested in
>> BCEL (Byte Code Engineering tool) being a Jakarta project as I was using and
>> th
On 10/1/01 11:13 AM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi Jason,
>
> You should perhaps include a link to BCEL (http://bcel.sourceforge.net/)
Good idea! Thanks Ceki :-)
> Regards, Ceki
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Markus has approached me now stating that he would be interested in BCEL
becoming a Jakarta project so I thought I would see what others thought.
BCEL has many applications including compilers, analysis tools and who knows
what else.
Thoughts?
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On 9/11/01 11:17 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> I will join the lucene mailing list and we can work together from there to
>> move down the list of things to get done. Hopefully we can encourage the
>> existing develop
loper's list. I'll send a quick note to
the list (if you haven't already) asking if any progress has been made on
the initial list Jon made.
> Just proceed down your list from the Lucene mailing list?
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work together from there to
move down the list of things to get done. Hopefully we can encourage the
existing developers to pitch in some time too to move things along.
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pache.org have any feedback on this proposal
>> one way or the other?
>>
>> Ted
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>> Sent: Thursda
On 7/6/01 1:08 PM, "Ted Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One caveat. Let the XML PMC have it's vote on this. I'm sending the vote
> request in 2 minutes.
I'm a positive thinker :-)
> Ted
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On 7/5/01 9:09 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
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>> Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that
>> the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes
>> and the
he rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org than
we can discuss the possible integration with Axis.
Does this sound reasonable?
> Ted Leung
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I would like to try this avenue first as it's what the author wants.
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e XML-RPC package being an independent
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On 7/3/01 8:56 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is
>> interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in
>> XML-RPC? I honestly don't
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