RE: calendar splitting (was Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??)

> I think the best thing to do would be to have a standalone calendar > backend, communicating with James as transport, As a James commiter I can see this as being a sensible route, James exposes the Mailet API which would provide hooks into the mail system for icalendar, or indeed any other ma

calendar splitting (was Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??)

Jeff Prickett wrote: >Scott Sanders wrote: > >>Calendar is much more apropos in JAMES IMHO. I think that JAMES could >>become an Exchange killer :) >> > >Good point, I would accept that place as a home for the back end >objects. Possibly split >iCalendar between JAMES and Jetspeed or make it its

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tures to potential users is the same old job it ever was. d. > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > o

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+1 James is (amongst other things) a platform, get on it. > -Original Message- > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:09 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > So

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Go Jon! +1 for innovation over duplication, but I also think that a bit of a competitive challenge could be just what James needs to increase its profile. We want to lead, not follow, but sometimes you have to overtake people to get into the lead. d. > Why would anyone want to create an OSS com

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No worries. Scott > -Original Message- > From: Sven Ewert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:47 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: AW: AW: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > sorry guys, > ive not followed all thre

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> with calendaring: > http://www.ximian.com/products/ximian_evolution/ Shared, server-based calendaring? With ACL's? And native client support? Having kept a hopeful eye out for server-based, native-client, open source groupware projects for about a year, color me skeptical. For some reason

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I`ll greetz you ¸.·´¯)¸.·´¯) -> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- -> Von: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2002 22:33 -> An: Jakarta General List -> Betreff: Re: AW: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? -> -> -> Dude, these are all clients. We

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side. -Andy On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 16:34, Sven Ewert wrote: > -> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > -> Von: lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > -> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2002 22:19 > -> An: Jakarta General List > -> Betreff: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta

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D]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:34 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: AW: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > -> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > -> Von: lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > -> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2002 22:19 > -&

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-> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- -> Von: lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2002 22:19 -> An: Jakarta General List -> Betreff: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? -> -> -> -> > If your goal is to target other developers, t

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> If your goal is to target other developers, then why use Exchange at all > when there are better solutions out there? Such as...? With calendaring support? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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> > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote: > >> Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor. > > > > Yes yes yes yes yes. > > Why would anyone want to create an OSS competitor of a piece of sh*t? > > Let's innovate, not duplicate. A competitor doesn't have to be

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On 29 Jan 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: | I'll subscribe. | | (Hey you Endre ...see what just happened) Yes! And it's all my fault! ;-] heh-heh! ,) Endre -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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t; > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:43 PM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > > Oh and don't forget Lotu

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st > Subject: RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > Oh and don't forget Lotus notes. Notes seems to be somewhat > of a deprecation, but had some app development features that > are still used in a lot of places. Modernize these and make > them more web-i

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y, January 29, 2002 12:44 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > > on 1/29/02 12:29 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My goal is NOT to target other devel

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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:44, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 1/29/02 12:29 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My goal is NOT to target other developers. My goal is to target users > > that *HAVE* to have exchange because they: > > 1) *HAVE* to use Outlook. > > 2) *HAVE* to have r

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; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > on 1/29/02 12:29 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My goal is NOT to target other developers. My goal is to > target users > > that *HAVE* to have

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on 1/29/02 12:29 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My goal is NOT to target other developers. My goal is to target users > that *HAVE* to have exchange because they: > 1) *HAVE* to use Outlook. > 2) *HAVE* to have real groupware capabilities (calendaring, etc.) > 3) Refuse to give

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on 1/29/02 12:18 PM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not view me as an outsider, trying to use your cool stuff, not finding > my way around, wading through small and big projects alike.. My point is that there is no such thing as an 'outsider'. You can become just as involved a

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> > Scot > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:27 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > >

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vens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:26 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > > on 1/29/02 12:07 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

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: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > on 1/29/02 12:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My issue is the places I > > typically work if I could s

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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:27, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 1/29/02 12:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My issue is the places I > > typically work if I could sell a drop in replacement for Exchange...heck > > yeah cause then I wouldn't be forced to use that spamming viru

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x27;t know that the change happened. Then things like Evolution and other clients can plug into an OSS impl. Scott > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: R

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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:26, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 1/29/02 12:07 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Innovation is necessary. But duplication is also necessary for the > > purpose of adoption. The only way to beat Exchange is to look like > > Exchange. The innovation w

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> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:08 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > > > > > on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >

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on 1/29/02 12:06 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My issue is the places I > typically work if I could sell a drop in replacement for Exchange...heck > yeah cause then I wouldn't be forced to use that spamming virus ridden > security hole and would be able to pick my own email

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on 1/29/02 12:07 PM, "Scott Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Innovation is necessary. But duplication is also necessary for the > purpose of adoption. The only way to beat Exchange is to look like > Exchange. The innovation will then help, but only after the user thinks > that it *is* Exc

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Scott Sanders wrote: > > Again, why don't you send a patch with the pages that you would > like to see, and then we could discuss that? What we are saying > is that we do not really know how a jakarta user wants to see it. > You do. So post some HTML and lets talk about it., +1. It doesn't eve

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> -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:14 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:13, Scott Sanders wrote: > >

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with doesn't mean you have to suck too. ;-) > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:06 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? >

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> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > > on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

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6 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:08, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott S

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > | What would you like to see happen? Should we wipe the site with | > | something that has no activity? Should Jserv die because the last | > | release was forever ago? I thin

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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:08, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote: > >> Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor. > > > > Yes yes yes yes yes. > > Why would anyone want t

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So then start the base code in the commons, and create impls in Jetspeed and James that use the base. Scott > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Prickett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:10 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: EC

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tevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Sco

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- > From: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:54 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > | > As a complement to this: how is the "deprecating" system > of Jakarta?

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On 29 Jan 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: | On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote: | > Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor. I can | > plug in WebDAV support and then right some plugins for Outlook and | > voila, the user would never know the difference. | >

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Scott Sanders wrote: > > Calendar is much more apropos in JAMES IMHO. I think that JAMES could > become an Exchange killer :) > Good point, I would accept that place as a home for the back end objects. Possibly split iCalendar between JAMES and Jetspeed or make it its own module that plugs in

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on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote: >> Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor. > > Yes yes yes yes yes. Why would anyone want to create an OSS competitor of a piece of sh*t? Let's innovate, not du

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on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | What would you like to see happen? Should we wipe the site with > | something that has no activity? Should Jserv die because the last > | release was forever ago? I think not. Jserv is a production server > | that lives in m

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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:54, Endre Stølsvik wrote: > > | > As a complement to this: how is the "deprecating" system of > | > Jakarta? If a project "dies", that nobody seems to update it, > | > the list dies or something like this, does it die away from > | > Jakarta too? > | > | What would you li

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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote: > Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor. Yes yes yes yes yes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

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| > As a complement to this: how is the "deprecating" system of | > Jakarta? If a project "dies", that nobody seems to update it, | > the list dies or something like this, does it die away from | > Jakarta too? | | What would you like to see happen? Should we wipe the site with | something that

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n a few doc changes she's basically ready to go. Thanks, Andy > Scott > > > -Original Message- > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:16 AM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: RE: ECS??

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Unix thing (BIFF4 back in 1992!), I respect what you have done! Scott > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:16 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? >

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. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:26 AM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > > > On 1/22/02 9:02 AM, "Jeff Prickett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

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+1 On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:07, Scott Sanders wrote: > Comments inline... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:02 AM > > To: Jakarta General List > > Subject: Re:

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Calendar is much more apropos in JAMES IMHO. I think that JAMES could become an Exchange killer :) > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:26 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ l

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Just my two cents worth. .. don't freeze your vision. Have one (we have a very general one for POI plus some very specific ones for each release), but you have to allow people to come in and say "I want this by 2.0" even if its a 4.0 for you. For example we landed a very talented developer fo

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Comments inline... > -Original Message- > From: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:02 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta?? > > > > | What's the point? > | >

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Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > In your opinion, what are the key factors in nurturing a developer > community? > I know what does not nuture a development environment. 1. Working in a vacuum and hoping someone magically finds out. 2. Mispresenting (Intentionally or Unintentionally) the status of the pro

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | Endre, you clearly have a personal bias against me. If you would like to | continue to express it, you are free to do so. However, your complete lack | of contributions around here, other than expressing your bias against me, is | making you look li

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on 1/29/02 8:52 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sometimes the reasons an implementation is lousy (or at least, not > appropriate for the task at hand) are non-technical. Freemarker was a > wonderful idea with a GPL implementation. Hence velocity was born. Just to be clear... s

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on 1/29/02 4:42 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Example? Stefano pushed to get POI in, and there was *huge* pushback. > > At least heavy from Jon, as I remember it. I wasn't about to accept a half assed proposal. Is there anything wrong with that? The POI team took our fee

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Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > In your opinion, what are the key factors in nurturing a developer > community? To paraphrase Stefano Mazzocchi (only because I can't locate the exact words via Google at the moment) - a wonderful idea with a lousy implementation. Any other permutations of those two don't s

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In your opinion, what are the key factors in nurturing a developer community? -- Ceki > It is very easy to monday-morning quaterback and second guess the > decisions that were made in the distant past with perfect 20-20 > hindsight. Some might even find it amusing to single out some of the >

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Jeff Prickett wrote: > > One reason calendar died is because, there is no community around it. It > was just me contributing to jetspeed. One of my first goals as a > developer with calendar this time is to get more people involved. It is > not that easy. +1 It is very easy to monday-morning qua

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On 1/22/02 9:02 AM, "Jeff Prickett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As we speak I am trying to restart the calendar effort. I think that I > have a point to > make here in this forum. First a lot of these sub-projects are spun off > from other projects iCalendar originally started in Jetspeed. Th

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"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: > > On 1/29/02 7:02 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > | What's the point? > > | > > | They will still always be separate communities in separate CVS repositories. > > | > > | Let me put it another way : what problem are we trying to solve? > >

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Just my opinion. If you have an ax to grind, lets see some patches. Now that the front page has the pretty table with categories I understand it a lot better and think you're issue is yesterday's issue. Writing good project websites is inherently hard. Its hard for POI...it should be 10x harde

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I'm not sure what to make of this discussion, except this, why would anyone expect a loose OS project like jakarta to be well organised, methodical and fair? Life's not fair, and bearing in mind that everyone involved has to do "something else" to earn a crust and spare time when they can for jaka

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You soon got me cornered here now..! | > | > 2) If a guy that's already within Jakarta decides that he'll make a nice, | > | > thight, _small_ little library, it seems like getting it into Jakarta just | > | > takes a cvs commit. Even top level. | > | | > | No way. I'm a guy in Jakarta. I have

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On 1/29/02 7:02 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | What's the point? > | > | They will still always be separate communities in separate CVS repositories. > | > | Let me put it another way : what problem are we trying to solve? > > Me coming to the front page and trying to und

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| What's the point? | | They will still always be separate communities in separate CVS repositories. | | Let me put it another way : what problem are we trying to solve? Me coming to the front page and trying to understand what Jakarta is all about. "Browsing" it.. Reading about all the cool tec

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On 1/29/02 6:32 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A bit to flame-baitish, yes yes.. > > > But there are two things in that mail: > > 1) Why not do some grouping of the projects in Jakarta? > > ( 1b) Maybe not all projects in Jakarta are of the identical importance? Well, not

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | on 1/29/02 12:31 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be | > at the top level of Jakarta? | > | > Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. | > | > WHY are there so m

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on 1/29/02 2:41 AM, "Stephane Bailliez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While we are at it, if some committers to regexp read this. I submitted a > patch to make iterator works (they never did) more than a year ago and they > never get in > > cc to regexp-dev > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ja

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on 1/29/02 12:31 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be > at the top level of Jakarta? > > Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. > > WHY are there so many small, little tiny projects at the top of Jakarta? > Eve

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> -Original Message- > From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] > I think that > especially the Jakarta Regexp package would be a good > candidate for migrating > into Jakarta-Commons, considering its size and common use > across many projects. > I'm neither a contribu

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Endre Stølsvik wrote: >How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be >at the top level of Jakarta? > >Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. > >WHY are there so many small, little tiny projects at the top of Jakarta? >Ever heard of "grouping", "trees" and things like thi

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29.01.2002 09:31:16, Endre Stølsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be >at the top level of Jakarta? > >Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. > >WHY are there so many small, little tiny projects at the top of Jakarta? >Ever heard of

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On 1/29/02 3:31 AM, "Endre Stølsvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be > at the top level of Jakarta? > > Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. > > WHY are there so many small, little tiny projects at the top of Jakarta? > Ever

ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

How is it possible that such a small, little, tiny project happens to be at the top level of Jakarta? Ahh.. Jon Stevens.. There we have it. WHY are there so many small, little tiny projects at the top of Jakarta? Ever heard of "grouping", "trees" and things like this? Could be useful.. Really w