On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 19:18 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> In terms of finding homes, I wonder if we should have a root directory under
> which we have inactive codebases. One problem would be that no PMC would be
> responsible. Or we could create a sort of reverse incubator: a curatorship,
> wh
In terms of finding homes, I wonder if we should have a root directory under
which we have inactive codebases. One problem would be that no PMC would be
responsible. Or we could create a sort of reverse incubator: a curatorship,
where no active development takes place, but where oversight exists.
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 23:07 +0100, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would
> > point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to foster
> > intra-project involvement.
>
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 22:20 +0100, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> As a side note, perhaps this is an opportunity to evaluate if there
> are better homes for some of the components ? E.g.
> betwixt/digester/jxpath could benefit from going to XML commons,
xml tends to be about nuts and bolts. not really
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Henri Yandell wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 3/12/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Asking the question on commons-dev should initiate discussion with those
who care about Digester - ideally asking it here would too but they might
not
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote:
On 3/12/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Asking the question on commons-dev should initiate discussion with those
who care about Digester - ideally asking it here would too but they might
not be paying attention I guess. Waiting for every
Martin Cooper wrote:
I think this whole thing is putting the cart before the horse. You're in the
process of destroying Commons, not just dismantling it, and for no good
reason that I can see. The people involved with Digester should be the ones
to initiate a discussion about whether or not they
On 3/12/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
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> > DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP
> would
> > point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to
> >>> foster intra-project involv
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would
point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to
foster intra-project involvement.
Betwixt, Digester and JXPath strike me as a bit more to swallow and XML
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 12:38 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> Yes, Struts uses Digester. It also uses BeanUtils, Chain, FileUpload, IO,
> Logging and Validator.
>
> I think this whole thing is putting the cart before the horse. You're in the
>
DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would
point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to
foster intra-project involvement.
Betwixt, Digester and JXPath strike me as a bit more to swallow and XML
might not want to taking such bites. You want to go
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
>
> > On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would
> >> point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but t
Thomas Dudziak wrote:
On 3/7/06, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thomas Dudziak wrote:
Could you elaborate a bit on what the physical / visual-to-users
differences to the current commons, well, Jakarta sub-project will be
? Will this be a new Jakarta sub-project (and the
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
Thomas Dudziak wrote:
Could you elaborate a bit on what the physical / visual-to-users
differences to the current commons, well, Jakarta sub-project will be
? Will this be a new Jakarta sub-project (and the other commons
components will remain in
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Definitely in favour of turning things like Velocity, POI, Turbine into
> groupings if at all possible. Less likely with POI I suspect. I'd hope
> that this would mean:
>
> SVN Auth - everyone in Jakarta has write permissions
> SVN structure -
Definitely in favour of turning things like Velocity, POI, Turbine into
groupings if at all possible. Less likely with POI I suspect. I'd hope
that this would mean:
SVN Auth - everyone in Jakarta has write permissions
SVN structure - jakarta/dvsl, jakarta/velocity/, jakarta/anakia (not sure
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would
point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to foster
intra-project involvement.
Betwixt, Digester and JXP
>From the Velocity perspective, this sounds a little like our subproject.
We've discussed this and aren't ready to move to TLP status. (we're not a
framework!). But there are a couple of different efforts under the Velocity
umbrella, specifically "Velocity Engine", "Velocity Tools", "DVSL". Mayb
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would
> point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to foster
> intra-project involvement.
>
> Betwixt, Digester and JXPath strike me as a bit more to swallow
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As a side note, perhaps this is an opportunity to evaluate if there
are better homes for some of the components ? E.g.
betwixt/digester/jxpath could benefit from going to XML commons, dbcp
and dbuti
On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a side note, perhaps this is an opportunity to evaluate if there
> > are better homes for some of the components ? E.g.
> > betwixt/digester/jxpath could benefit from going to XML commons, dbcp
> > and dbutils from going to DB etc. ?
>
> +
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Thomas Dudziak wrote:
On 3/7/06, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thomas Dudziak wrote:
Could you elaborate a bit on what the physical / visual-to-users
differences to the current commons, well, Jakarta sub-project will be
? Will this be a new Jakarta sub-pr
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
Thomas Dudziak wrote:
Could you elaborate a bit on what the physical / visual-to-users
differences to the current commons, well, Jakarta sub-project will be
? Will this be a new Jakarta sub-project (and the other commons
components will remain in
On 3/7/06, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thomas Dudziak wrote:
> > Could you elaborate a bit on what the physical / visual-to-users
> > differences to the current commons, well, Jakarta sub-project will be
> > ? Will this be a new Jakarta sub-project (and the other commons
> > co
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