RE: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses

really somehow infected, but I am offline during weekends and I just get too much warnings from antivirus email filters on Monday. So, people: just get your machine offline for a while if you use Outlook and have this kind of doubt. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: C

Re: Now about JNDI

Also, there is a load of simple (mostly in-memory) open source JNDI implementations. Several others with Apache compatible licenses too. If you want to make something new, that's not it either. Good luck, Paulo Noel J. Bergman wrote: What about JNDI libs? Is it been built as part of Geronimo, or

RE: Loggers, loggers, all over the place

e that is a way of not taking responsibility for the quality of the tools and standards used in one's work - and hence the work itself; - Stupid because one ends up in bigger trouble that way. If we would all agree using whatever is pushed stronger in our direction, we would all be using Microso

RE: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

> ... and don't do the usual embrace and > extend [and extinguish] or lock up pieces with patents... Yeah... that would be a first time for M$. =;o) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr. > > .. >

RE: [OT] Servlets better for most companies!

ior. (these cost exactly $0.0)... I have seen this a lot (not at my current employer). Even when you have an Open Source solution really WORKING to show, dumb managers will still deny using it. Dilbertian logic rules on corporate live. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message

Mailing lists problem...

I am receiving no mail from any Apache mailling list for a couple of days. I am also getting no answer from the mailling list management robot. Do you know what is happening? Thanks, Paulo Gaspar - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Mailing lists problem...

I am receiving no mail from any Apache mailling list for a couple of days. I am also getting no answer from the mailling list management robot. Do you know what is happening? Thanks, Paulo Gaspar P.S.: I do not have access from my usual mail address at paulo.gaspar at krankikom.de

RE: ASPizer

Don't freak out Paul. Jon is just being his usual self. OTOH, he is the only Apache member I am aware of with this kind of "self". Have fun, Paulo http://www.krankikom.de http://www.ruhronline.de > -Original Message- > From: Paul Ilechko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday,

RE: ASPizer

of disrespect. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gulcu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ASPizer > > > > Endre, > > Although Jon might not be the most pol

RE: ASPizer

Jon, This is a nice entry for the FAQ you are talking about. It is quite reasonable and all. Copying and pasting this somewhere and putting the corresponding question before it is better than nothing and you get an URL to use next time the problem pops up. I quite like your well tempered writin

RE: ASPizer

> -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:54 PM > > I am sorry but what insult are you referring to? Calling someone's hard-worked project ".bomb", without even trying to get informed about it. Does this qualify? Have fun

RE: ASPizer

> -Original Message- > From: Paul Ilechko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:33 AM > > ... > > ... Why are you so threatened by this ? Jumping to conclusions about the motivations of someone else is a way of getting personal. That is always counterproductiv

RE: ASPizer

> -Original Message- > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:14 AM > > ... > > ...Given your defensive nature I now question even more the > ability of you and your project to thrive in this open arena. Jumping to conclusions about the persona

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

Java, Ceki is THE authority, isn't he? =:o/ Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:38 PM > > > on 12/5/01 11:27 PM, "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: Comment for Apache.org

Yes, Jon could improve the package deal a lot if he wanted (just by cutting the minus side of it) but it does not look like it is going to happen. And I still prefer having him around than the alternative. Just my 2 (Euro) cents. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- >

RE: Comment for Apache.org

Man! This is even worse then MY flame wars with Jon! =;o) Have fun, Paulo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: Comment for Apache.org

> He's busy these days, so we can all take turns proxying for > him, with the caveat that you have to work hard on Jakarta stuff like he > does to be a proxy. Who are you trying to fool? You would be never able to impersonate him!!! =;o) Paulo P.S.: And I am not talking about working hard. >

RE: Comment for Apache.org

> The list is named [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I suggest the creation of such mailing list and the creation of a "Jon" page explaining the whole "Jon issue"... linked from Jakarta's home page, of course. This way we can save the newbies and Jon can keep being... er... Jo

RE: Another Comment for Apache.org

He might have used automatic translation. I recently had to read a Japanese web page translated to English that way and it sounded just the same. Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7

RE: cvs commit: jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/site/xdocsant.xml

And this tool might help on formatting the code according to (whatever) standards you want to follow: http://jrefactory.sourceforge.net/cspretty.html Have fun, Paulo Gaspar http://www.krankikom.de http://www.ruhronline.de > -Original Message- > From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

Andrew, Jon "forgot" to send you this link: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html This is Jon by Jon (he wrote that page). This does NOT mean that Jon is wrong. It just means that he is not the most diplomatic person around. Try to get the juice from his argumentation and ignore the less

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

popular document formats! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:16 PM > > > On 1/3/02 8:21 AM, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

You are right. I agree 100% with what you say here. My remark is no argument. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:35 PM > > > on 1/3/02 10:15 AM, "Paulo Gaspar&quo

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

support the indexing of specific document formats... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Code conventions

In the process Hitler and his gang played a surprisingly high number of dirty tricks. Surprising at least for a non German, since we only get an overview of the WW2 history. Since I work in Germany I have the benefit of the many documentaries about the Nazi era played on TV (history is not forgot

RE: Code conventions

I am sure Gerhard can give a better answer, but IMHO he abused a lot the system. The truth is that it can happen anywhere if people are not very alert and ready to fight for their rights. It could even happen in the USA and it is quite dangerous to think otherwise (because then you are not alert

RE: Jakarta Status [was Code conventions]

commitment and support for it. (IMO Stefano record looks great. It only makes it better that he knows how and to whom to delegate responsibilities.) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:14 PM &g

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

finding out how much server side POI really is!!! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 3:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

This is obvious from the "jakarta-commons" growing activity. More when you compare it with "xml-commons". Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:35 PM > > ... > > My feeling is that communities need a critica

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

interests on the 4.x side. Either way, the main focus is on 4.x now and I do not see any ongoing flame wars on the Tomcat lists. Everybody wants its success. IMO it is better to stop feeding the flaming and let it die. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott S

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

cy is the worst form of Government except all those others that have been. ) Relax and have fun, organic growing works or we wouldn't be here! Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:01 AM &g

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI@apache]

Answer inline > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:53 AM > > > ... > > > >I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported by > >this article: > >http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398 > > >

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

vergence of > the proposal of multiple client side projects when java on the client side > is becoming a much more interesting space to work. I had that opinion, but when I started imagining what I would use it for I found that I had LESS client side uses for it than for Velocity! =;o) > > ... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

ce that has not Word or Excel installed??? And AFAIK, if you have Word and Excel, you have at least some Basic scripting... but maybe you do not have Java. > ... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Again... > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:14 PM > > On 1/6/02 12:11 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... Lots of "is it server or is it client" t

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

documents in a CLIENT device??? However, of course that I want to write such formats on a SERVER device without any MS stuff (Linux), so that clients WITH MS software installed can read them. Your examples represent rare needs. Not impossible, but quite improbable. > ... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> Or maybe "we" should just recognize that use of those terms is relatively > arbitrary for many (most?) of the jakarta projects and throw it away > completely? That is exactly what I think. Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, Ja

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:09 PM > > ... > > When do you decide to actually step up and try to make a change? I hope > it's *before* the outside perception of Jakarta changes from that > of a place of hig

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> I was just using it as a platform for the topic I really want to discuss. Go for the topic. =:o) I think that we are already discussing that topic but POI is now becoming more of a distraction than an example. Name the topic and I will try not to get distracted. =;o) Have fun, Paulo > ---

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

> -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:55 PM > > > On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > > If you start at the top of the thread,

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

are big blocks of indivisible code. Maybe the way to go is just to move such components to the Commons. Why not moving Intake now? Maybe this issue needs regulation, but this kind of think tends to work better if you use the carrot before applying the whip. =;o) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

I would still prefer having both around. There are users and committers for each that are not willing to move to the other. IMO, community rules. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002

RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache]

it is written in the first person only helps. To ease the task of searching for it, I am just attaching it. Maybe Ted and others can use it as an historic source. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, J

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

; promotes reuse. Conscientious objectors notwithstanding, they plow > relentlessly ahead, continuing to make incremental and enduring progress. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

> Being PMC chair isn't going to help solve any problems because of > our system of checks and balances. I just love "checks and balances". It is the least perfect system except for all the others already tried. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- &

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

an be convinced, cajoled or > gently pressured. Peer pressure is extremely effective but > requires consensus. Consensus about the community's will, not > your or my will, but the larger group's will, can be achieved as > a result of a vote. > > In short: We vote.

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

with this process. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:54 PM > > > At 10:33 07.01.2002 -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > >on 1/7/02 10:29 AM, "Jim Scott" <[EMA

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

Which projects are those? Can you really compare them - and their community - with Jakarta? I just want to know more. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:16 PM > > ... >

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

ore constructive and efficient to me than occasional bursts of flames. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:17 PM > > Jon Stevens wrote: > > > > There were no documents like that befo

RE: Cross-pollination

large community and how easy is to fail when everybody does not read everything. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cross-pollination

RE: crushed

> I would encourage people (esp. Jon, Ceki, Peter) to read Linus' emails > on design: > > "The problem with "singlemindedness and strict control" (or "design") > is that it sure gets you from point A to point B in a much straighter > line, and with less expenditure of energy, but how the HE

RE: crushed

ment on it. Jon, I see you crying a lot over this but no POSITIVE initiative. Sam already suggested performing an automated check and NAG the trespassers. Do you see a better alternative? I believe you already slapped me around a few times for complaining instead of acting. Your turn to a

RE: Questions

> If we were to elect a new PMC Chair tomorrow, who would you like to see > elected? Why is that question important??? Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:07 AM > > > on 1/7/02 1:36 PM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

s like Tomcat or Velocity. Give me a better case and/or concrete reasons, please. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:25 AM > > on 1/7/02 4:26 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EM

RE: Cultural homogeneity

> So, that's my $0.00 this time around (that's about 10,000 Turkish > Lira today). I would give at least 2 Euros for this one! =:o) Couldn't say it better... or I would have done it before! =:o) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From:

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

Answer inline, > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:18 AM > > > on 1/7/02 5:18 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Jboss's success seem

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

be. Things tend not to work according to our high expectations. I am comparing it with what I see elsewhere. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:36 AM > > > The JBoss guys ar

RE: crushed

keeping their indexes on Apache up to date (the new home page is indexed) and they have a free solution: http://www.google.com/services/free.html So, I think there are already a few solutions for the most immediate problems. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message-

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

What about just a version of this form: http://search.apache.org/ or a link to it??? Take a look at my previous posting (the "crushed" thread) for more details. It can be made (hidden fields I love you) to search any sub-domain just by changing its HTML. Have fun, Pa

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

8, 2002 5:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed) > > > on 1/7/02 7:59 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What about just a version of this form: > > http://search.apache.org/ > >

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

COOL! =:o) > -Original Message- > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:03 AM > > > On 1/8/02 12:05 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No karma, no clue on how to change a

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

e: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed) > > > on 1/7/02 9:05 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No karma > > Submit a patch. > > >, no clue on how to change a Jakarta web page! > > RTFM > > <http://jakarta.

RE: crushed

to be but I still believe there is enough of it around here. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:12 PM > > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:02, Jeff Turner wrote: > > I would encou

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

Turbine and Avalon serve very distinct purposes, uses and users. They just have a load of components trying to do the same thing. Those could be shared and unified by placing them in the commons. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

I was not demanding karma, just stating what I thought were obstacles. Now I have some clues and it looks like I can help even without karma. =:o) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:54 AM &

RE: Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

> My guess then is that you have not read down the page far enough then. No > demands required. Wrong guess. =;o) I am noisy but not a committer in any Apache projects. Just posted a few patches on a couple of projects. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > Fr

RE: Volunteer Wanted

LOL I am willing to help but I will not stop being a pain in your ass when I find it necessary. Please remember that I do not systematicaly disagree with you. I just disagree when I can not agree. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:

RE: Volunteer Wanted

Ok Ted, At the moment I do not have enough time to assume the responsibility for the whole thing but I am willing to help. (I also do not have the time for flaming days like yesterday.) One more making some of the work must be of some help. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Mess

RE: Code conventions

LOL! Are you taking these guys seriously? =;o) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Carlos Alonso Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:31 PM > To: Jakarta General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Code conventions > > > > Tim Vernum wrote:

RE: [OT] Code conventions

What about at leat a clue ("[OT]") that this is completely out of topic? =;o) (Yeah! I should have done this before myself.) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Armin Zeltner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:31 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Su

RE: Mission ...

"Production quality" sounds MUCH better to me! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:31 AM > To: general at jakarta > Subject: Re: Mission ... > > > Pe

RE: More abuse of coding styles...

with local vars due to similar spellings and misspellings and so. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:26 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: More abuse of coding

FAQ-o-matic down at least since yesterday...

4 complains and counting! Can someone take care of this? Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: FAQs web page > > > It seems that th

FW: Web site error

> -Original Message- > From: Allen Chesley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Web site error > > > The URL > > > http://nagoya.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/Turbine/screen/DisplayFaqs/ > action/SetAll/project_id/2 > > which

FW: Faq-o-matic down

> -Original Message- > From: Doug Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Faq-o-matic down > > > Hello, > > When I clicked the link "Official Jakarta Faq-o-matic" on > the page "http://jakarta.apache.org/site/faqs.html

RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

Sometimes I (argh!) love Jon! =;o) Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:07 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] > > > Why is that? > > > -Original

FW: Error on site-internal link

> -Original Message- > From: Rolf Heckemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Rolf Heckemann > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Error on site-internal link > > > Hi > > The page > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/faqs.html > > contains

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

I think that the key bit is: > and it is a mistake to try to program > as though a > remote call had the same characteristics as a local one. Your app will always be more robust if you do NOT ignore the specific issues of a remote call. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Orig

Another complain... FW: Jakarta FAQ-o-matic broken

-Original Message- From: Jonathan Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:42 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Jakarta FAQ-o-matic broken I cannot get the Jakarta FAQ-o-matic to work correctly. http://nagoya.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/Turbine/screen/DisplayF

RE: Another complain... FW: Jakarta FAQ-o-matic broken

his works, but obviously noone wants to fix it > either. > > Why don't we take it offline until it's fixed? > > Paulo Gaspar wrote: > > >-Original Message- > >From: Jonathan Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 20

RE: J2EE considered harmful

ut the DynaBeans stuff. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: J2EE considered harmful > > ... > > Well, if EJB (or other

RE: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

LOL Sam as an ego! Have fun, Paulo P.S.: I would vote on all these guys if I could. Scott, Sam, Stefano and Jon. > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:49 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: PMC Nomination

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

Now I am speechless! (Never happened before as you well know!) Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:56 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar > > > Pa

RE: PMC Nomination - Paulo Gaspar

I accept. I want to see the end of the movie. =;o) And I believe I will (would) survive if the lower probability result happens. I am already too involved anyway. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, J

RE: J2EE considered harmful

A bit more of OT inline: =;o) > -Original Message- > From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:50 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: J2EE considered harmful > > > At 09:11 PM 1/31/2002 +0100, Paulo Gaspar w

RE: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders

Ok, it seems that now I can do this: +1 Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination - Scott Sanders > > > I would like to nomin

RE: PMC Nomination

...and this: +1 Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Bojan Smojver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:31 AM > To: Jakarta General > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination > > > I would like to nominate Geir Magnusson Jr. for the PMC. > > G

RE: PMC Nomination

...and this for both Sam and Jon: +1 Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:28 PM > To: Apache Jakarta > Subject: PMC Nomination > > > I would like to nominate > > - Jon Stevens > - Sam Ruby > >

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

1, 2002 7:03 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful > > > Albeit at the expense of scalability > > On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 09:51, Paulo Gaspar wrote: > > I think that the key bit is: > > > and it is a mistake to try to progr

RE: [OT] J2EE considered harmful

Paul just answered to what I meant in a better way than I would be able to do. BTW Paul, you know JAspect and Dynamic Proxies don't you? Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hammant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:44 PM

RE: J2EE considered harmful

facto standard Pascal language in a couple of years. All Pascal language related products wanted to be compatible with it and not with whatever was the standard Pascal. All the big dogs had to run away. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAI

RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

... Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:19 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful > > > So what if you need to move an object tha

RE: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan

+1 to Craig! > -Original Message- > From: Morgan Delagrange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:17 PM > To: General Jakarta > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PMC Nomination - Craig McClanahan > > > I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to t

RE: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

At least it seems that your are in for serious fun! Hard to imagine a better reason to quit the PMC. I hope you enjoy it and thanks for making things happen. All the best, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday,

AltRMI chat (was: [OT] J2EE considered harmful)

the presence of some Runtime support classes. Anyway, with pnuts you can generate/compile code in memory. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: Paul Hammant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:33 PM > To: Jakarta General List > S

RE: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

Cool! That was what I understood but the tone of some remarks left me wondering. Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 8:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

RE: PMC Nomination - Costin Manolache

I second that nomination. Have fun, Paulo Gaspar > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of jean-frederic clere > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PM

To jvote or not to jvote

>From the PMC nomination postings, some are going to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and some not. Why? What are the rules? If they all should, then a lot are missing! Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: To jvote or not to jvote

ent to "jvote". - Peter Donald Nothing went to "jvote". - Paulo Gaspar Nothing went to "jvote". - Morgan Delagranje Only his acceptance went to "jvote". - Geir Magnusson Enough votes went to "jvote". - Diane Holt

RE: To jvote or not to jvote

ent to "jvote". - Peter Donald Nothing went to "jvote". - Paulo Gaspar Nothing went to "jvote". - Morgan Delagranje Only his acceptance went to "jvote". - Geir Magnusson Enough votes went to "jvote". - Diane Holt

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