Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Marius Mauch
Grant Goodyear schrieb: Some questions that need to be answered: * Can the repo be converted while maintaining the history? * How long does a full checkout take? * How much disk space does a full checkout require? * Is there a viewcvs equivalent available? * Others that I can't think of right

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Google Summer of Code and Gentoo

2006-04-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:39:14 -0400 Thomas Cort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > > >always portage portage portage. :) Can't you people think of another > >project to pick on^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H that needs help? > > > > > What about a Gentoo stats? Hmm, maybe the server component

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:38:48 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dont get me wrong, i hate documenting common sense as much as the > next sane guy, but it seems Gentoo has come to the point where this > needs to be done > > many thanks to the Ubuntu guys and to solar for doing the re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:02:06 + Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 07:59:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Alec Warner > wrote: > > I believe the Infrastructure team also doesn't want to change the > > layout, but I'll leave it up to them to comment on their own > > policy

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:29:58 -0300 "Marcelo Góes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am basically mailing this new draft on behalf of Ciaran, I just > ok'd it :-). Please read and comment. general comment: Maybe this is an imlementation thing, but it would be good to list the actual DTD fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on VMWare - few ideas

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:32:55 +0900 Kalin KOZHUHAROV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it worth: > For windoze people it will be a great way to experience/play > with Gentoo Where is the big difference to booting a livecd in vmware? Ok, you can write to the disk (image), but I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:05:35 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 05:20:06 +0000 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | "* Portage must extend portageq to implement a command which > | returns whether or not the profile u

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-03 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 00:19:47 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Attached is the final draft. No substantial changes since last time, > just wording cleanups and a few clarifications. You'll be able to see > it here in an hour or three (check the dates!): > > http://www.gentoo.org/p

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

2006-02-28 Thread Marius Mauch
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2006 22:29, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 02:19:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Side note: if the packages in question are fetch restricted, you're screwed, and will not be able to add them to the tree. Actually, there is a so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:49:55 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > IIRC the idea behind duplication was not to use a flag for different > > purposes, but have a generic description in use.desc (like "doc: > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:49:26 +0100 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R Hill wrote: > > a global USE flag duplicated in use.local.desc could be used to > > give specific information about exactly what effect the flag has on > > a certain package, or if for some reason it does differ sligh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for Comment

2006-02-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Klaus-J. Wolf wrote: Hi, I am new to this list, but I am not new to Gentoo. Would you please discuss a GLEP draft, which I believe it might improve the usability of Gentoo? Text at: http://www.seismic.de/gentoo/gentoo_mask_proposal.html Technical details still missing... Ignoring the hug

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2006-02-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:27:56 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > > http://www.gentoo.org/p

Re: [gentoo-dev] bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:23:20 +0100 Sven Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'd like to see, that bootstrap.sh unmerges any old gcc > >> (emerge -C \<${gcc package that we just compiled}) > > > > that's a bad idea imo > > > > let the user decide which gcc they wish to have > > But doesn't bo

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] making the tree depend on portage

2006-01-25 Thread Marius Mauch
Sent this to -portage-dev [1] last month with little feedback on the idea itself, so starting another try. From: Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] making the tree dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:32:00 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Loeser wrote: > >>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported > >>> ebuild pull in all of modular X (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of auto-use in portage-2.0.54

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:12:45 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > As I said earlier, we'd like to get rid of the nasty auto-use > feature, including the support for the USE_ORDER variable. Right now > we intend this for 2.0.54 (might not be the fina

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:12:38 +0900 Kalin KOZHUHAROV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. > > During the last many months, more than once an idea occured in my > mind, so I decided to share it. > > > 2006-01-25T01:34 kalin $ dd if=/dev/brain of=gentoo-dev bs=1 > count=3292 > > Do you think it w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds and USE flags

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:27:35 +0100 Rene Zbinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am writing an ebuild for a program written in perl. This program > has the dependency of gnuplot but with the png flag enabled. What is > the gentoo way to enable this USE Flag for gnuplot when I emerge my > program. i

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:45:40 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was attempting to be helpful and filter out valid packages from the > list. I could have been an ass and been like "Yo I think > package.mask is bloated go clean it" and not given a list at all, but > that is not very

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a > really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask > entries were really referen

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2006-01-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html > > This will NOT be voted upon the next council meeting on thursday ;) Ok, made

Re: [gentoo-dev] pdf use flags

2006-01-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:54:49 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So unless there are any objections to this I'll make the change this > weekend. Done. -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, &#

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:45:34 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 21 January 2006 23:12, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:11, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > - we add an em

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:11, Mike Frysinger wrote: - we add an emerge flag (say '--debug-build') which adds "debug-build" to FEATURES IMO this is pointless and redundant. But otherwise the proposal looks good. Marius -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] pdf use flags

2006-01-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:54:49 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Checking for pdf use flags I just found that there are currently at > least three different flags for pdf stuff in the tree: > - pdflib (global) > - cpdflib (global) > - pdf (several local ones) Jus

[gentoo-dev] sqlite3 use flags

2006-01-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On a similar matter as the pdf use flags, just noticed that there are six local sqlite3 use flags, all with the same meaning. So instead of adding another one I'll make this a global one later today. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothi

[gentoo-dev] pdf use flags

2006-01-16 Thread Marius Mauch
Checking for pdf use flags I just found that there are currently at least three different flags for pdf stuff in the tree: - pdflib (global) - cpdflib (global) - pdf (several local ones) All of them mean basically the same (one exception, see below). I suggest we unify them to one single global "p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:17:06 -0600 Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Lance Albertson wrote: > > | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of > > course, that | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I > > like the idea of using | RST,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:59:40 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I originally thought of putting it on my devspace, but using GuideXML > there is a bit tricky, at least for me (as xsltproc seems to refuse > working on the pure xml directly). > > So I was thinking if we h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Marius Mauch
Lance Albertson wrote: I never meant that each subproject can't have their own goals. They need to have those of course! I was more directed that there isn't a person in charge of all the subprojects just to keep track of them (Not governing them). i.e. if subproject foo is working on adding feat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2005-12-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:43:19 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Will those new tags support the "restrict" attribute? Is restrict something that's in use and working, or did it never get off the drawing board? Well, it's list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2005-12-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Marcelo Góes wrote: Fellow Gentooers, Here is a draft of an enhancement proposal that should allow upstream information to be included in metadata.xml: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vanquirius/glep-0099.txt It is authored by ciaranm and me (vanquirius). Please comment :-). Will those new tags su

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml (GLEP 46)

2005-12-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Stefan Schweizer wrote: That will increase the sync time for all of our users - can we please keep this info out of the sync-tree? I do not see why this is necessary to be in the tree - we can do fine with a webbased database for that. The additional time is not significant as this will be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:19:01 +0200 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:48:52PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote: > > > >>/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:xml - Check/Support flag for XML > >>library (version 1) > >> > >>I think the xml use

Re: [gentoo-dev] December 15th Meeting Summary

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:45:04 -0500 solar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you do that please set it as a blocker for the .54 release. > Reintroducing ChangeLog/metadata.xml to Manifests would be a undesired > regression. Nothing in the portage as of <=.53 make direct use of > those two files and t

Re: [gentoo-dev] December 15th Meeting Summary

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:21 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this months meeting wasnt too eventful, kind of quiet ... on the > agenda: > > - Marius: decision on multi-hash for Manifest1 > there was a bit of hearsay about why the council was asked to > review/decide on this issu

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-18 Thread Marius Mauch
Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 06:23:55AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:50:47 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | You haven't stated how the 'package manager' will trigger the user's | reader of choice for these targets. Should also extend this to al

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an earier -dev thread). Oh, the tree signing stuff. Got it. Sorry. Nope, not the signing stuff ;) But some update on that would be nice

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:56:37AM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: current agenda: decision on multi-hash for Manifest1 You mean the Manifest2 GLEP, or did I miss something? No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an earier -dev thread

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is your [belated] reminder of the December council meeting. > future reminders will not be late anymore ... we've proven that we > cant remember it so i've gone ahead and crontab-ed future reminders > to go out on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is your [belated] reminder of the December council meeting. > future reminders will not be late anymore ... we've proven that we > cant remember it so i've gone ahead and crontab-ed future reminders > to go out on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:15:49 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2005 04:04, Marius Mauch wrote: > > As stated in the GLEP, gpg is outside the scope of this. As for the > > questions, per entry sigs would invert one of the main goals (siz

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:39:10 -0500 Olivier Crete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-06-12 at 17:04 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html > > I see nothing about GP

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 22:58:06 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html > &

[gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html This will NOT be voted upon the next council meeting on thursday ;) Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-3.4 migration guide

2005-12-03 Thread Marius Mauch
Matthias Langer wrote: 2.) emerge -e world on a system with lot of packages will most likley fail somewhere during the process for various reasons. Fixig the problem (for example by unmerging the package which causes it) and restarting the process is not an option, as this may cost you lot's of t

[gentoo-dev] Removal of auto-use in portage-2.0.54

2005-11-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, As I said earlier, we'd like to get rid of the nasty auto-use feature, including the support for the USE_ORDER variable. Right now we intend this for 2.0.54 (might not be the final version number) unless there are major objections to it. Marius -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests and > Manifests with the result of a short and mid-term larger portage tree > (in the long term the format will be phased out hopefully) o

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that | we can make it a sort of rule). | How should manpages that are generated be managed? | | The common sense and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:33:34 +0100 Marc Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > [..] > > So much for background information, now to the actual question: > > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests > > and Manifests

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:49:20 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2005 09:32, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 > > > > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok I have three modific

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok I have three modifications that are pending to go into portage: > - The first simply enables creation of SHA1 checksums (and others if > implemented like with the second mod), if you want to try it you

[gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
So, along with the gpg signing stuff came along again the question to have multiple hash formats in digests and manifests. Current status is that portage only generates MD5 checksums and can verify both MD5 and SHA1 checksums. Creation of SHA1 is also possible but has so far been disabled as older

Re: [gentoo-dev] Around 425 non-existent packages in p.mask?

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:26:03 +0200 Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > >>If not, i *personally* could go slowly removing the entries, along > >>with other people willing to help, or any other _better_ suggestion > >>to deal w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible solution: email subdomain

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:39:08 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the proposal again. If there's an issue with it, shoot it > down, but from here, it certainly seems to fit the bill. Again, > I'd /love/ to say I was the one that came up with it, but I wasn't. > =8^) > > * give [AH]T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Around 425 non-existent packages in p.mask?

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:18:26 -0400 "Luis F. Araujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, i wrote a script to try to get a list of those orphaned entries, > and it looks like there are more than 400 packages/ebuilds which are > still listed in p.m but that don't exist in the tree anymore. > (A bunch of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:19:17 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 18 November 2005 18:09, Homer Parker wrote: > > Now that GLEP 41 (AT/HT) has passed, we need to designate a > > subdomain for their email. This will cover AT/HT's as well as forum > > help, so needs to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:32:55 +1100 Ben Skeggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, the most important reason for the GLEP (IMO) is giving AT's > r/o access to CVS. When working on bugs, it's always fun to find out > that the problem has already been resolved and just hasn't made it to > your loca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:09:57 -0800 Corey Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (apologies for the messed up time in my last message) > > On Friday 18 November 2005 06:53 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > We've seen why this won't work in the past... Too few users know > > how to do proper testing. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 00:06:38 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:23:19 +0100 > "Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote: > > > > > For users who do like the functionality jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need Help: Creating a new third party package

2005-11-16 Thread Marius Mauch
Dan Meltzer wrote: On 11/16/05, Zou, Yixiong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am trying to create a gentoo package for some internal software. I followed several Howtos online and created the ebuild file for my package. But somehow ebuild always return me the same error over and over again:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need Help: Creating a new third party package

2005-11-16 Thread Marius Mauch
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 16/11/2005-15:43:25(-0800): Zou, Yixiong types I read it somewhere that the category name "mycat" has to be an entry listed in /usr/portage/profiles/categories. I added "mycat" into the categories, still the same result. Plus, this doesn't make sense because th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:50:47 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 03:30 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:54:01 -0500 > > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2005-11-15

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:52:28 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:19 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Was just about to finally commit the elog related config stuff into > > make.conf just to notice (a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:54:01 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:26 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 November 2005 20:19, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > From my POV those vars should be set in the p

[gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-15 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, Was just about to finally commit the elog related config stuff into make.conf just to notice (again) that there are 14 (in words: fourteen) different make.conf files there, with almost all of them just differing in CFLAGS and CHOST (only exception is make.conf.mac which isn't used anymore in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Agenda for Council meeting, Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC

2005-11-14 Thread Marius Mauch
> Voting > - GLEP 41 (requested by Homer Parker) > > Discussion > - Portage Tree signing status (requested by Marius Mauch) > - Q&A session Ehm, I didn't request anything. Grant did ;) Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:25:33 +0100 Thierry Carrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:37:15 + Stuart Herbert > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | For example, there's no real reason why GLSA's couldn't been > > delivered | via this at some point (alth

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:58:14 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feedback from people who have something useful to say would be very > much welcomed, assuming of course that they've read the GLEP. Things that I think are generally ok as is: - news item format - news item distributio

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10-11-2005 21:33:48 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't > > do that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at > > once. We have to launch *one

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:50:42 +0100 Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 04 of November 2005 02:50 Lance Albertson wrote: > > After reading through the heated thread, I have yet to see your > > valid point of pushing xml for such a simple task. All I have seen > > is two 3rd grade kids

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-04 Thread Marius Mauch
Thierry Carrez wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: Oh god help. This also points to another reason why this is not such a good idea. Writing guideXML is a lot more work than writing an e-mail format file (ciaran's proposed format for those who didn't recognize it). Also having double files contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Petteri Räty wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: Gentoo being about choice the new package.use should come before anything user set. I do not see any problem with this if it works in the same way as package.mask already works. Please, enlighten me. Because package.use is implemented in a very

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Petteri Räty wrote: Every once in a while I see people wanting to use nosomething use flags. Why don't we have a package.use like we already have a package.mask file? This would make it possible for developers to turn on use flags by default in a way that would not cruft the base profiles for eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Just another portage enhancement idea...

2005-10-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:00:56 + Alec Joseph Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI elog is implemented in CVS ( 2.1 ). When it will be released is > anyone's guess. 2.1? probably never, but elog will almost certainly be backported to the 2.0 branch. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting Thursday October 13th

2005-10-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Jakub Moc wrote: 11.10.2005, 10:52:35, Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday 11 of October 2005 10:47 Jakub Moc wrote: Bleh, what's wrong w/ the idea to create gentoo-dev-annouce or whatever it would be called? Many people gave up on reading -core due to the constant flames... Nothing, of course.

Re: [gentoo-dev] first council meeting

2005-09-27 Thread Marius Mauch
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 12:01 am, Andrew Muraco wrote: 1) would ?arch become the old ~arch, if it was implemented? 2) would people actually try to run a full ?arch system? 3) #2, would it be possible without breakage? if we went with a testing mask it'd mean that us

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:51:16 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically, we just add "commercial" to LICENSE in the ebuild, and (if > wanted or necessary) add "check_license > $licese_required_to_be_accepted" to pkg_setup on the ebuild. While > this will break completely intera

Re: [gentoo-dev] linux-info.eclass and $CONFIG_CHECK

2005-09-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:42:49 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can only think of a couple of solution: > > - Remove these unnecessary checks completely: Follow the example of > all other distributions and do not depend on anything kernel-ish for > such packages. A recompilation

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/30/05 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 01:03 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 03:42:25AM -0500, Brian Harring wrote: > > > Hola all. > > > > > > Straight to the point, I'm proposing that the following files- > > > arch.list > > > categories > > > use.d

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/29/05 Brian Harring wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 09:57:37AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On 08/29/05 Brian Harring wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 08:17:39AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > > Don't mind moving them, BUT > > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/29/05 Brian Harring wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 08:17:39AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Don't mind moving them, BUT > > - metadata is a stupid location for them for several reasons > being? > metadata already holds global repository information, time of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] gtk/gtk2 USE flag annoyances

2005-08-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/29/05 Brian Harring wrote: > That said, it won't work anyways; the aliasing has to occur within the > python side else it'll screw up the depgraph (realized that just a few > > seconds ago) :) > > So... back to making a lot of noise, or some python side support for > aliasing use flags.

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed shift of files in the tree of non profiles files into seperate dir

2005-08-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/27/05 Brian Harring wrote: > Hola all. > > Straight to the point, I'm proposing that the following files- > arch.list > categories > use.desc > use.local.desc > package.mask > updates > > be moved out of the profiles directory in the tree, and into the > existing metadata directory perso

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI

2005-08-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/26/05 Kristian Benoit wrote: > On the EAPI subject Brian just brought back, I had this idea that we > could use the same approch XML took with HTML. > > The ebuild could define which EAPI to use, but instead beiing a > version, the EAPI would be an ebuild API definition. The equivalent to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] gtk/gtk2 USE flag annoyances

2005-08-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/26/05 Brian Harring wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:44:44AM -0400, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > Hows the upgrade path RE: end-user useflag changes? Will everyone > > that has gtk in their make.conf die a horrible death if they don't > > see the upgrade notice? when will they see the upgrade n

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo on the Lab

2005-08-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/23/05 Ricardo Loureiro wrote: > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:41:35 +0100 > Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > portage-ng is dead. There is a rewrite going on, but it'll take a > > while > > to get anywhere near usable. > > I searched a bit to find information about portage-ng but

Re: [gentoo-dev] download problem in ebuild

2005-08-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/23/05 Nick Rout wrote: > I am not sure how to deal with this problem. > > Lost Labyrinth is a game I am trying to write an ebuild for. I am > stuck on downloading, which isn't very encouraging. > > The URL to download the gane is: > > http://laby.toybox.de/download15/ > > which redirect

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo on the Lab

2005-08-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On 08/22/05 Ricardo Loureiro wrote: > 1- Can I RSYNC_EXCLUDE everything except profiles and have an usable > system? Define "usable". As only portage uses the tree it would be the only thing that might break. > 2- There was a portagesql effort, is it dead? As far as I know, yes. But it wasn't

[gentoo-dev] portage-2.1_alpha20050718 out

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, For all those drooling over their keyboards after reading this topic, please also read the rest of this mail. So yes, finally a portage-2.1 pre-pre-pre-alpha version is out and in the tree (p.masked). However, it's not the 2.1 that some of you might expect as it doesn't have a new dep resolver

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:03:13 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:40 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > > If you read it again you'll notice the {pre,post} part ;) > > IIRC that's already in HEAD for /etc/portage/bashrc, so extendi

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:26:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > With noman and the like, how's the following for a solution? A lot > > of the ebuild functions contained within portage will be moving > > into the tree once

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Carlos Silva wrote: I know that portage team is closed for new features :) but this just came to my mind just 5 minutes ago and seemed good enought to try. Let's just think that portage handles 5 version of package foo and foo has "http://www.foo.org"; and homepage, "GPL-v2" license and "foo jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Release files/portage snapshots auxiliary files naming scheme

2005-08-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Hi, Currently the files that accompany our release files (ISO images, stages) are named in the following scheme: *.asc for GPG signatures *.md5 for MD5 sums while the files that accompany our portage snapshots are named: *.gpgsig for GPG signatur

Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/profile.d/

2005-07-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:22:29 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 16 July 2005 01:03 pm, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:34:09 -0400 > > > > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > we could care less

Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

2005-07-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:05:09 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 16 July 2005 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather > > than per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ? > Don't thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/profile.d/

2005-07-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:34:09 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we could care less what users do with /etc/profile.d ... the point is > that *only* users should use /etc/profile.d ... we dont want random > Gentoo developer Foo installing some Bar.sh into /etc/profile.d with > packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:21:35 +0100 Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce the following security policy for web-based > apps. If there are no objections, every new web-based app will have > to conform to the policy before it can be added to the tree. Every > ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: qt.eclass

2005-07-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 00:00:38 +0300 Dan Armak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 01 July 2005 23:19, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > It also makes any attempts to parse ebuilds without using bash (our > > current strategy) a lot harder (actually causing bash > > reimplementation) > You mean you're act

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