Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 09:04:13PM -0800, Corey Shields wrote:
> On Saturday 19 November 2005 08:50 pm, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > Yeah, we defiantly could use a beefy new server for CVS/SVN. Just make
> > sure you chat with robbat2/Pylon on the specifics for the requirements.
> > I believe the main thing they wanted was lots of ram.
> As discussed before, the new dev will be a dual xeon 3.0/1M, 2GB ram, 6x146GB 
> U320 scsi.   adding more ram to this setup wouldn't be a problem. I'll cc 
> them and ask how much ram hits the sweet spot and get a new quote this week.
4Gb of RAM would enable the current CVS speedups to continue, and also
allow for keeping all of the CVS/SVN trees (2Gb of data presently) in
the memory-cached files (important for speed).

The Xeon's need to be be HT-capable (the present ones are), as that
helps spread available CPU around the tasks that do use it better.

The 6x146GB is overkill for storage, unless you have some other plans
that I'm not aware of (I'm assuming RAID5 with a hot-spare, so 4x146GB
usable). 6x72GB might be more suitable for the budget.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: enewuser/enewgroup getting their own eclass

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:06:18PM -0700, Duncan wrote:
> Fourth Thursday in November... so tomorrow...
Except in Canada, where it falls on the second Monday in October.
So Chris might to well to have a time-machine and make the change last
month.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 10:51:42PM +0100, Francesco R. wrote:
> # for i in libmysqlclient.so libmysqlclient_r.so ; do \
>  for j in "" .15 .15.0 .15.0.0 ; do \
>   echo ln -s /usr/lib/${i}.15.0.0 ${i}${j} \
>  ; done \
> ; done
ldconfig should have created these symlinks, unless something was wrong
with the .so.15.0.0.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 06:39:10PM -0500, Olivier Crete wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-06-12 at 17:04 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support:
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html
> 
> I see nothing about GPG in the GLEP.. Would those manifest files be
> signed like the current ones? Would it be possible to have "per-line"
> signing, or something like the stacked signing idea that was proposed
> last month. If we are going to change the manifest format, might as well
> do it properly.
Scope:
"It does not expand the scope of it to cover eclasses, profiles or anything 
else not already covered by the Manifest system, it also doesn't affect the 
Manifest signing efforts in any way (though the implementations of both might 
be coupled)."

I'd like to aim for doing the fragment signing in right into Manifest2 from the
start, and I've had discussions with ferringb regarding that. It makes more
sense than refitting the existing Manifest code with the new signing.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] developer keyring?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 08:10:46PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Any automation of that process would be really appreciated :-)
I've got a script that generates it from the rollcall data, as part of
the keyring signing stuff.

I'll attach it tommorrow (limited Net access at the moment, between ISPs).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTs and libraries

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:45:22PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Now I'm wondering - is there a sane way of handling this that doesn't
> forcefully remove python 2.4?
> e.g. could python modules be installed to multiple python versions? How
> do others (ruby, perl, ...) handle it? For the moment I've "solved" that
> by package.masking python 2.4, unmerging it and rebuilding all Python
> modules - less than optimal ...
See dev-python/validation-1.2.3 for another solution.
It installs itself for all versions of Python that are on the system.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTs and libraries

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:59:04PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > It installs itself for all versions of Python that are on the
> > system.
> I don't fully understand the magic how it finds all Python versions,
> but can this be applied to other packages?
It can and it is. Can't recall offhand which, but the basic premise is
N copies of the source (worst case, only 1 copy if the build system is
written correctly), each compiled slightly differently (eg for
different Python versions).

> Are there reasons for not doing this (besides increasing build time)?
None that I am aware of. Probably best to avoid doing this on any
package with a long build time, or where useless stuff is built
multiple times (eg build N binaries, build 1 set of docs only).

> Also - how does portage react to "multi-installing" packages? 
For portage's point of view, the package is installed once.
It's not strictly binpkg safe, but the python packages aren't either.
(Have just python2.N on a system, make a binpkg of a python mod,
upgrade python, remove old python, and now your binpkg is useless).

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[gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

[Robin H. Johnson]

I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a
lot of ebuilds with stuff like this:
for font in *.bdf; do
/usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > `basename $font .bdf`.pcf
done   
gzip *.pcf

For having 100 files in *bdf, this is so serial it's painful.

While this is a daunting task to accomplish, it would be worthwhile for
developers to attack poor coding like this and replace it with nicer stuff.

The above for example should be replaced with a small makefile:
%.pcf: %.bdf
bdftopcf $< -o $@
%.pcf.gz: %.pcf
gzip -9 $<
BDFFILES = # files go here
PCFFILES = $(BDFFILES:.bdf=.pcf)
PCFFILES_GZ = $(BDFFILES:.bdf=.pcf.gz)
all: $(PCFFILES_GZ)
clean:
rm -f $(PCFFILES) $(PCFFILES_GZ)

Is this really too much work to get developers to do? I don't think so.

(And no, this email wasn't prompted by one of ciaranm's diversions about SPARC 
having many CPUs).

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[gentoo-dev] FYI: earch with SLOT and masking support

[Robin H. Johnson]

For those that use the earch tool, I've written a new version that has
support for SLOTs as well as masked packages (profiles, p.mask, missing
keywords - any masking supported by portage).

http://dev.gentoo.org/~robbat2/earch-0.3

Try it on sys-devel/gcc for example, where there are presently 7 slots
in action.

It doesn't currently get the multislot stuff as used by binutils
correct, but I'm working on that still.

Be sure to read the --help output, to see some of the specific new
features (hide masked packages, display masking method, display
specific SLOT only).

Feedback welcome, please email me with it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: earch with SLOT and masking support

[Robin H. Johnson]

Newer version now:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~robbat2/earch-0.6

Changes:
- optionally include the category in the output
- new mode to list ebuilds suitable for removal from portage (however
  this only checks your current profile so far, so be careful still,
  this is work in progress).
- NOCOLOR support.
- refactoring and speedups.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: earch with SLOT and masking support

[Robin H. Johnson]

New version again.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~robbat2/earch-0.7
Changes
- Ignores /etc/portage like repoman by default, but added -f flag to revert to 
old behavior.
- Added -i flag to ignore redundant versions (those that would be listed by -r).

I've had a couple of people complain and say that earch doesn't seem to display
the flags they expect.  It's designed to show the effective status of flags for
the entire package, not all of the flags.

So for example:
# earch media-sound/xmms
xmms-1.2.10-r14[0]:
xmms-1.2.10-r15[0]:  ppc amd64 ppc64 arm sparc mips ia64 alpha hppa x86

This shows that for those stable arches, -r15 is what will get installed when
'emerge xmms' is run. This also implies that it's probably safe to clear the
-r14 ebuild out of the tree.

A more complex example.
# earch sys-devel/gcc
gcc-2.95.3-r9[2.95]: (M)  sparc alpha ppc x86
gcc-3.1.1-r2[3.1]: (M)  sparc -ppc x86
gcc-3.2.2[3.2]: (M)  -*
gcc-3.2.3-r4[3.2]: (M)  mips sparc -hppa ia64 alpha x86 ppc s390
gcc-3.3.2-r7[3.3]: (M)  alpha ia64 mips -hppa ppc64
gcc-3.3.5-r1[3.3]:  s390
gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1[3.3]:  sparc ~mips ~hppa
gcc-3.3.6[3.3]:  -* arm m68k ~sparc ~amd64 sh -ia64 ~alpha hppa x86
gcc-3.4.1-r3[3.4]:  -hppa s390
gcc-3.4.4-r1[3.4]:  arm ~sparc ppc64 amd64 alpha mips x86 ppc
gcc-3.4.5[3.4]:  -* ~ia64 ~x86 ~ppc64 ~amd64 ~ppc sparc ~arm ~s390 sh ~mips 
~hppa
gcc-4.0.2-r3[4.0]: (M)  -*
gcc-4.1.0_beta20060113[4.1]: (M)  -*

For ~x86 and x86, identify which packages would be installed for each of the
GCC slots, by default (eg emerge =sys-devel/gcc-${SLOT}* for all values of
slot).
Answer for ~x86: gcc-3.3.6, gcc-3.4.5
Answer for x86: gcc-3.3.6, gcc-3.4.4-r1

One last example:
# earch-0.7 -i net-nds/openldap
openldap-2.1.30-r2[0]: mips
openldap-2.2.28-r3[0]: arm ppc64 sparc sh x86 amd64 ia64 alpha hppa s390 ppc
openldap-2.2.28-r4[0]: ~ia64 ~ppc64 ~sparc ~alpha ~ppc ~arm ~s390 ~sh ~mips 
~hppa
openldap-2.3.17[0]: (M) ~x86 ~amd64

This shows that stable mips is way behind on openldap.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: earch with SLOT and masking support

[Robin H. Johnson]

Another new version again, with bugfixes and cosmetic output changes.
http://dev.gentoo.org/~robbat2/earch-0.8

Changes:
- keywords are sorted by the order they appear on disk, with the
  exception that '-*' will precede it if present.
- All '-arch' flags will always appear in the list if present on disk
- A trailing space in some output lines got killed.
- If a stable keyword supersedes the unstable keyword, the unstable
  keyword is no longer displayed. See example below:

Old output:
dvdauthor-0.6.10[0]: ~x86 ~sparc ~ppc64 
dvdauthor-0.6.11[0]: amd64 ppc64 ~ppc sparc x86 
New output:
dvdauthor-0.6.10[0]:
dvdauthor-0.6.11[0]: amd64 ~ppc ppc64 sparc x86

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Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:10:02AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> that depends, does your code actually have things like
> #ifdef DEBUG
>  
> #endif
And likewise your code should NOT have some logic like the following in
it's build system.
if(debug mode)
 ignore user cflags and use our own cracked out cflags

I've seen an upstream configure script where if you tell it you want
debug mode, the only thing it does is force CFLAGS to '-O -march=i386'
and not strip the binaries itself - this of course failed dismally when
you tried to enable debugging on non-x86 platforms.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:06:12PM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> A) You have commit access to gentoo-x86, AND
> B) you're comfortable with the porting process OR are adept with ebuilds
> and would like to help
I'm up for being a volunteer here.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 12:05:30PM +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote:
> To solve symlink problem I can suggest the following.
Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it
consistently, and allow users to switch when they have both csh and
tcsh installed.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] multislot mysql

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:19:18AM +, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> A good solution should be to add the "multislot" USE flag to the ebuild
> and let it to decide whenever make it slotted or not, sorry, this is not
> viable, yes it's already used by other important packages but not well
> supported by portage and should be used only in particular situations.
[snip]
> example:
> 
> mysql-4.1.16-r[0..49] Need "+multislot"
> mysql-4.1.16-r[50..99] Need "-multislot"
> mysql-5.1.18-r[0..49] Need "+multislot"
> mysql-5.1.18-r[50..99] Need "-multislot"
NAK. Do not go the route of ranged revisions for specific features.

If you go with multislot, you must make it work in ALL revisions.

One of the reasons why is that portage does not support a limited
ranged dep properly last I checked, so this is hard for everybody to
deal with.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 02:19:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Side note: if the packages in question are fetch restricted, you're
> screwed, and will not be able to add them to the tree.
Actually, there is a solution for this, and it's reasonable logical.
Don't use the same name that upstream does for the files.

Simply tell the user to download X and place it in $DISTDIR renaming it
to X-foo-bar, where's you've chosen X-foo-bar to avoid conflicts.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 04:34:00PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:05:00 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Is there any valid reason that we can't have portage do this 
> | automatically. This particular way is very user-un-friendly.
> There's exactly one set of packages affected, and they're closed source
> and non-repackagable. I doubt it's high priority...
There's more than one set of packages with this.

There is only one set in the tree that don't use a workaround of some
sort (the NX stuff).

A quick hacked up grepping indicates that the following packages use the
trick of having the user rename the file after downloading it.
dev-java/ibm-jdk-bin 
dev-java/ibm-jre-bin
dev-java/jdbc2-oracle
dev-java/jdbc3-oracle
sci-chemistry/platon
There might be others, but I'm not looking too hard at the moment.

And I know I've used it in the past when upstream has been unreliable in
naming distfiles (eg they did thank me and add the major version portion
to the filename, but not the minor version, and still changed the
download once a week).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:37:24PM +0100, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Friday 24 March 2006 20:18, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > I really can't think of much besides kernel + toolchain that can have
> > such devastating effects to the rest of the tree.  The only other
> > massive breakages would be via eclasses, which was my main target.
> glibc is a good candidate. And portage a second one.
*libc in general.
binutils
coreutils (Screwing up this is really fun, sort/xargs/tail etc.)

And a general class, the reason I've had stuff in my own overlays:
- Trying to develop clean/safe automated upgrade paths for complex
  packages.
Early versions of these tend to do nasty things to data (openldap was
esp. painful).

> > Does anyone have any ideas how we could resonably reduce problems
> > reported from things such as toolchain breakages in an overlay, yet
> > still not punish the people running the overlay by disallowing it?  I
> > surely wouldn't want to limit the toolchain maintainers from being able
> > to enjoy the use of an overlay if they wished it.
> Perhaps we could ask people who run overlays with dangerous ebuilds, to have 
> these ebuilds protected by some environment variables. (The var must be set 
> for the ebuild to work.)
Only if portage can check the variable before starting to compile any
packages.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> - lots of interest in kickstart-like features in our installer ... people 
> want 
> to throw install media into a fresh box, boot it, and come back later and 
> have it be done/usuable
The 'CLI' frontend I wrote ~9 months ago worked back then for completely
automated installs - just feed it URLs to your two profiles (client profile and
install profile) and come back later. Some wrapping is needed to
distribute the profiles nicely still (I netbooted to an env with GLI).
(Disclaimer: I changed employment, and haven't personally used it for ~8
months now).

> - we were invited to a convention mysql hosts (forgot the name)
MySQLUC perhaps?
I'll be there representing phpMyAdmin.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Having fun with compression

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 06:30:23PM +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> We have ~15k .tar.gz in distfiles. ~6500 .tar.bz2, ~2000 others.
> A short run over 477 distfiles spanning 833M gave me 586M of .tar.bz2 -
> roughly 30% more efficient!
> A comparison run with 7zip gave me 590M files, so bzip2 seems to be
> quite good.
Try rzip, esp. on the larger files, and see a serious improvement, with
the cost of one major penalty [*].

* rzip cannot handle streams, it seeks across the file multiple times
  for what it does.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] staffing needs expirations?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:51:39PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> I just had somebody ask me about whether or not we still needed LDAP
> help.  It's a good question, and I didn't know the answer, which is
> rather embarrassing since I'm the one who filed the LDAP staffing
> request.  Since then I believe that lcars had taken LDAP over, or is
> otherwise assisting robbat2 (or the LDAP team, if we have one now).
I wouldn't call us a full team, just a small group of folk that have a mail
alias (ldap-bugs), and try to handle bugs for LDAP. [robbat2, jokey, strerror].
I agree the LDAP docs need to be re-written, but that's a large undertaking.

> In any event, I doubt that I'm the only irresponsible dev who's added
> an entry to the staffing-needs page and forgot about it, so perhaps
> we need to have items expire unless explicitly renewed?  Thoughts?
I'm in favour of having expiry dates for requests yes.
And somebody can change my request for app-backup staff down a priority level
thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:15:49PM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> Comments?
I have no objections to the concept - I would however like very through
testing before it's actually committed.

Could you please submit the profile as a patch to the mailing list, 
thus allowing detractors to test cases that they believe it may break.
- If it breaks them, then something needs to be done.
- If it doesn't break them, then they have no reasonable grounds for rejecting 
the patch.

I myself have a few cases I'd like to test, on fringe cases of portage
behavior.

Backwards compatibility is the most important thing with the core
portions of the tree - new functionality must always be introduced in
such a way that the existing majority does not experience breakage -
because they'll make somebodies life hell.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

[Robin H. Johnson]

This email is a discussion on why we need to care about more than the simple
key parameters, and why - this includes things like changing the validity of an
existing key. We also need to consider: location of key (primary key vs.
subkey), expiry policies (expiries are only one element of key validity), key
signatures, and revoking elements in a key.

I've tried very hard to ensure absolutely all of the following is
completely fact, and that I have not entered any of my opinions into it,
except where I've explictly marked it as such.

On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:45:17PM +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Key policies
> 
> To make signing relevant and verifiable all devs should use the same
> parameters - key length, key type, validity.
No, the simple parameters of the have little bearing on how they are used.
While we do care about them in terms of managing file signatures, some
understanding is needed first.

Introduction

The following is an introduction into some of the OpenPGP standard, with a
focus on how it affects file signing, key signing, management of keys (for
the complex style listed), and revocation.

It's important as to what attacks against a key can lead to what results.

Breakdown of what is a 'key' is
---
A 'key' under PGP/GnuPG (OpenPGP) consists of several important entities:
1. *actual cryptographic primary keys and secondary keys (subkeys) [pub/sub]
2. *user ids - one uid per email address [uid]
3. signatures, each attached to one uid [sig]
4. revocations of any of the above items [rev]
I've included the packet type name in the [] at the end.
The first two items marked with a * are the core entities, and items are
associated with only one element of them.
There are a few more packet types, but they aren't important to our
discussion.

After this point, I will use the term 'cryptokey' to refer to the actual
cryptographic keys, and the generic term 'key' to refer to the collection of
above items.

To see the various elements of the above, try this:
"gpg --list-sig [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
If you look at my key, it goes on for a few pages (but isn't quite as
long as the Paludis thread).

The first column has the information type, and you'll see the types I
mentioned above.

Now let's focus on a single key for a moment:

# gpg --edit-key [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
pub  1024D/34884E85  created: 2002-08-27  expires: 2008-03-09  usage: CS  
 trust: ultimate  validity: ultimate
sub  2048g/CA05A397  created: 2002-08-27  expires: 2008-03-09  usage: E   
sub  2048g/67592A1F  created: 2003-04-12  expires: 2008-03-09  usage: E   
This key was revoked on 2004-09-09 by DSA key 34884E85 Robin Hugh Johnson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sub  1024D/FB33B3A4  created: 2002-08-27  revoked: 2004-09-09  usage: SA  
This key was revoked on 2004-09-09 by DSA key 34884E85 Robin Hugh Johnson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
sub  2048g/CC772FC3  created: 2002-08-27  revoked: 2004-09-09  usage: E   
sub  1024D/3233C22C  created: 2004-08-29  expires: 2008-03-09  usage: S   
[ultimate] (1). Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ revoked] (2)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ultimate] (3)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ultimate] (4)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ revoked] (5)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ revoked] (6)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ revoked] (7)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ revoked] (8)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ revoked] (9)  Robin Hugh Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The important bit here is the 'usage:' bit at the end of the cryptokeys.
There are 4 letters that will appear here:
C - Certify
S - Sign
E - Encrypt
A - Authenticate

We are interested in two of these only: Certify and Sign.
We aren't dealing with encrypted data at the moment, and usage of authenticate
is not implemented in gpg-1.4.

'Certify' is the terminology used for signing uids.
'Sign' is the terminology used for digitally signing files/data.

If you attend a keysigning event, you are certifying that a uid does indeed
belong to a person (more on this in a moment, in how we can gain from it).

From this point forward, I will use 'certify' to indicate signing of a
key, and signing to indicate other data signing.

Only the primary cryptokey [pub] will ever be marked with Certify.
The primary cryptokey is used for all uid signatures made with your key.
It also protects your key itself from some modifications by attackers.

Having multiple UIDs allows a person to go over several email addresses
over time, without having to invalidate old correspondence, or identify
themselves to any given third party more than once.

Choice of Length/Type:
--
Any of the cryptokeys marked with Sign will be used in signing Manifest/digest
data.
We have a few choices for these - I'm limiting this to what is implemented in
upstream GnuPG, and not anything added by external patches.
CryptoKey types: DSA, RSA.
CryptoKey len

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:08:08AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> > Also, git-sources *should* use this eclass once it is in the tree since
> > people using it will save _lots_ of bandwidth and disk space.
> Yes, I'll convert it over once you feel it is ready, just let me know.
I'd like to voice an objection to converting git-sources using a
git.eclass and performing live fetching.

This takes away the ability to use to existing git snapshots when there
is no or minimal network connectivity.

I don't object to it being in addition to the existing snapshot mode,
but please don't take the snapshot mode away.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 02:32:13PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:08:08AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> >>> Also, git-sources *should* use this eclass once it is in the tree since
> >>> people using it will save _lots_ of bandwidth and disk space.
> >> Yes, I'll convert it over once you feel it is ready, just let me know.
> > I'd like to voice an objection to converting git-sources using a
> > git.eclass and performing live fetching.
> > 
> > This takes away the ability to use to existing git snapshots when there
> > is no or minimal network connectivity.
> 
> I'm not sure I understand. If you have enough connectivity to get a
> snapshot to the machine, why wouldn't you have enough to get a .git/ to it?
Simple case - consider a disconnected machine, that you use sneakernet
to get files to - I've had a few in the past where the hardware was new
enough that networking was broken or not supported yet, and I had to try
a few patches and snapshots before actually getting it to work.

Another case might be a machine where HTTP/FTP access is allowed out via
a filter proxy, but not anything else (I've had a few cases like this in
doing Gentoo consulting).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cvsutils

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:22:25PM -0400, Mark Loeser wrote:
> This package is currently without a maintainer and has open QA issues;
> bug #123708.  It was marked as testing on every arch without being
> tested and could really use someone to clean it up.  It will be booted
> in 30 days if no one wants to keep it around.
I'll try to get to it soon.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Jan Kundr?t wrote:
> I don't know much about cryptography, but could you please elaborate on
> why is using one subkey for all the stuff considered a Bad Thing?
The basic form of it, is a vulnerability towards a class of attacks that
require a large supply of signed/encrypted material.
For a primer on various modes of using block ciphers, see 
Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/bbcmf

It's conceivable that (and this is the absolute worst case), under this
class of attack, a lot of signing may ultimately reveal bits of your
key, because the attacker has both the plaintext and ciphertext, and can
ultimately compute it - this can either be brute-force, or
mathematically (consider it solving algebra).

> Off-topic question - I've already met Alice, verified her identity,
> signed her keys and now she wants me to sign her new subkey with same
> name, e-mail etc because the old one has expired. Alice lives in Canada
> so I can't meet her easily. Should I sign it again with the same level
> of "trust"?
I think you missed something in my original email, namely that you don't
sign subkeys, you sign uids.

Since uids don't expire that part is irrelevant, but they can be revoked 
- then this becomes the same as bob's case below.

Note:
Unless you are using the 'tsign' command under GnuPG, the trust question
it asks you is only for it's local database, and is NOT included with
the exported keys that are sent to keyservers or other users. So let's
assume you are using tsign as well.

> Another situation - Bob, Alice's boyfriend, lives in Canada. I've met
> him before, verified his identity and signed his subkey for
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now he wants my signature for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should I
> sign it?
Actual answer:
You'll need to rely on your discretion a bit, but you can narrow down
the possibilities for attacks by following a specific process (and there
is a package that makes this much easier, but it's only available in
Debian's SVN at the moment http://tinyurl.com/ggueq).
0. Bob sends you a request about his new uid, signed with his key that
   you can verify.
1. Sign the new uid, and export the uid signature to a file.
2. Delete the signature from your keyring, you don't want it trusted yet
   (you can avoid this is you have a temp clone of your keyring).
3. Send Bob an encrypted email, with the uid signature file attached.
4. Bob needs to be able to decrypt the email using his GnuPG - thus
   associating the email address listed in his key with his key - if she
   can't decrypt the email - she's an imposter that has taken over the
   email account.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Signing everything, for fun and for profit

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 06:54:44AM -0400, Peter wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:45:17 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> 
> >The problem, in short, is how to handle the checksumming and signing of
> >gentoo-provided files so that manipulation by external entities becomes
> >difficult.
> all snip...
> 
> PMFJI, but as a user, not a security expert, I had a few thoughts that I'd
> like to throw in. Thanks to Patrick, he helped me to drill down some of
> the ideas and I present them for consideration. It's just a framework, so
> I will be brief.
Even larger snip.

I was actually looking at something similar to this, for the 'simple'
portion of Patrick's plan. You have most of the major ideas down, but
missed a few holes, and sticking points.

I'll try to get a writeup of it out later tonight, got a double-date
first ;-).

Thanks for the good writeup of Slackware as well, it's one I didn't
elaborate much on when I previously described the processes of
RPM-distros and Debian.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 11:02:22PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote:
> ferringb took the time to write a parser and setup a cronjob 
> (every 4 hours at the half hour) to parse over our GLSA's and see what 
> pkgs remain in the tree and have nothing but newer versions stable. I
[snip]

Just because old versions exist, doesn't strictly mean that they are
safe to remove - some of them may be in the tree because other packages
block the newer versions.

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites for sys-libs/ldetect{,-lst}

[Robin H. Johnson]

While digging in the tree, I found this pair.

1. sys-apps/ldetect-lst has been broken for the last 9 months since
   perl-MDK-Common was removed from the tree.
2. Both of them are live CVS ebuilds, there are no fixed versions
   available (upstream does have outdated SRPMs).
3. The ONLY bug ever filed for either of them was a recent one because
   the upstream homepage changed (cvs.Mandrake moved to cvs.Mandriva).
4. Nothing in the tree depends on them.

So if there are no objections, I'll mask them in a week, and remove them
in a month.

If there is a demand for them, I've got a non-CVS ebuild for the base
sys-libs/ldetect, but ldetect-lst is a lost cause (the perl module needs
to come back for starters).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:20:55PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote:
> Package: net-nds/openldap Herd: ldap Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We will be keeping the most recent version of each of the major
releases, as there are still people using them for interoperability with
other systems.

> Package: sys-auth/nss_ldap Herd: no-herd Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Package: sys-auth/pam_ldap Herd: pam Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could I ask that nobody touch these two for a moment.
There's a few odd bugs that only seem to bite some people, some of the
time, and it's an ongoing process tracing them still.

> Package: app-text/pdftohtml Herd: printing Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removed entire package.
Was hardmasked since January for security reasons, poppler is the replacement.

> Package: app-text/unrtf Herd: no-herd Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cleaned up two old versions - in 1 month, the latest series can go to
stable, and the other two ebuilds in here can get cleaned up.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 07:30:25PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
> So we created this awesome alias to put ebuilds that need a maintainer.
>  Good idea at the time, decent idea still.  The problem?  We have nearly
> 2000 open bugs assigned to maintainer-wanted[1].  I would like to
> discuss policy on these.  Do we keep them, do we get a group of people
> to slowly review and discard them?  Do we mind having a ton of things
> open like this (a quasi-ebuild db of sorts).  Is bugs the right place
> FOR THIs sort of thing, or can we improve somewhere/how?
Could we establish policies for closing them or leaving them to sit
open?

- Upstream dead, previously submitted URLs no longer functional (yes,
  there are actually some like this!).
- No ebuild included.
- Upstream says obsolete in favour of another package.
- Dev notes obsolete in favour of another package - suggest it to the
  submitter, and see what they say.
- Major unresolved security issues.
- Excessive complexity / unsuitable for ebuild installs (eg apps that
  are meant to be built and run from the same directory).

I'm in favour of leaving stuff sitting there, until a developer with a
need comes along (I wouldn't use an untrusted tree even if there was
one).

At the same time, existing developers and teams should be encouraged to
look at those under maintainer-wanted, and consider stuff there.
I try to keep an eye out for app-backup and other fields that I'm
involved in.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] mii-tool single distribution

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:06:33PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
> JFYI: I've made an mii-tool single distribution, which is 
> independent from the rest of the net-tools stuff. 
> http://www.metux.de/articles/oss/mii-tool-1_9_1_1
> This is especially interesting for embedded systems with plenty
> of space.
What functionality is there in mii-diag that has not been moved to
ethtool's -s option?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] mii-tool single distribution

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:36:07PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:06:33PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > > JFYI: I've made an mii-tool single distribution, which is 
> > > independent from the rest of the net-tools stuff. 
> > > http://www.metux.de/articles/oss/mii-tool-1_9_1_1
> > > This is especially interesting for embedded systems with plenty
> > > of space.
> > What functionality is there in mii-diag that has not been moved to
> > ethtool's -s option?
> 
> Actually, I didn't check that. 
> This small mii-tool is for embedded systems, where space really
> matters and ethtool already might be too big.
I get a 40k binary for ethtool, vs. a 15k one for mii-tool.
They could probably both be smaller with the use of uclibc/dietlibc, since
ethtool does a lot of string comparison.

ethtool, being more actively maintained than mii-tool, also supports more PHY
hardware, gigabit, and other things that mii-tool doesn't.

ethtool -s DEVNAME \
[ speed 10|100|1000 ] \
[ duplex half|full ]\
[ port tp|aui|bnc|mii|fibre ] \
[ autoneg on|off ] \
[ phyad %d ] \
[ xcvr internal|external ] \
[ wol p|u|m|b|a|g|s|d... ] \
[ sopass %x:%x:%x:%x:%x:%x ] \
[ msglvl %d ] 

# mii-tool eth0
SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported
# ethtool eth0
Settings for eth0:
Supported ports: [ MII ]
...

Probably worthwhile just to push a rewrite of ethtool into busybox, with
optional disabling of some of it's portions of code, to get the best size
benefit out of it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] maybe im wrong here but nsswitch and udev

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 10:48:51AM +0100, J?rgen Schinker wrote:
> actually my x86 maschine makes at boot when it starts udev
> an ldap request and waits 6 ...  8   ...16 sec
> so at this time ldap is not running
> 
> so what wants udev at this early stage ?
> 
> my nsswitch.conf
> 
> hosts  files dns ldap
> 
> and all users,groups,DNS,DHCP are stored in ldap
Please search for bugs next time.

A search string of 'nss udev' to bugzilla, would take you to bug 99564.

The udev/nss_ldap thing has been brewing for a while, and we're still trying to
get upstream udev to fix the issue.
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99564#c44

In that comment I list the proper solution that upstream needs to undertake
(make udev not lookup nss entries unless it is actually creating device nodes
that need the entries), and some other workarounds.

There's one additional workaround, that makes the new nss_ldap retry behavior
closer to the old behavior (1 retry, 1 second gap, not configurable):

For the timeouts, add these three lines to /etc/ldap.conf on affected machines:
nss_reconnect_tries 0
nss_reconnect_sleeptime 1
nss_reconnect_maxconntries 4

That won't remove the problem, but it will greatly reduce the waiting.

Also FYI, if you have an /etc/ldap.conf line that continues 'ssl on', change it
to 'ssl start_tls'.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:58:46PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
> Xmms will be removed soon... Lot's of users still use xmms mostly
> because it has many plugins that others don't. Xmms is still stable but
> the upstream is dead so it won't take our patchset. In the end of this
> year i would like to remove xmms and all plugins but before i need to
> prepare users for this changes and clean some maintainer-wanted bugs for
> plugins.
Provide migration options for the plugins - some of the code is out
there, it's not in the tree yet, three that I actively use are xosd (the
XMMS plugin is with the xosd package), xmms-realrandom and
xmms-morestate.

There are SUSE rpms for audacious-xosd, but I haven't found the SRPM or
other source anywhere.

In the past, the base xmms plugins were all split to be seperate
packages, could something similar happen with audacious?

It is possible to reduce some of the memory overhead? Comparing a clean
start of xmms to a clean start of audacious with my playlist takes twice
as much virt space, and 50% more resident memory - long term the numbers
look even worse for audacious.

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[gentoo-dev] parallel fun in src_install - going beyond the serial monotony of 'make install'

[Robin H. Johnson]

In the present devmanual, for src_install, it notes that 
make install DESTDIR="${D}"
is the preferred way to fire off the install, and to not use emake, for
fear of parallel issues.

This has four nasty side effects:
- Global assumption that make is GNU Make (Hi flameeyes).
- Doesn't pass MAKEOPTS for options other than -jX.
- Removes ability to use EXTRA_EMAKE.
- Large package installs are make very slow.

I did a bit of checking of a random selection of packages (looking at
the Makefile and internal dependancy trees, as well as a test with -j7
on my 4-way box), and found very few problems with the concept of
parallel installs.

For a start, practically all Makefiles generated by a recent version
(newer than 2001 for definite) are parallel safe. There are a few minor
cases I saw where this wasn't true, but those packages also had other
parallel build problems.

For packages that are definitely aren't parallel-install safe, we should
use 'emake -j1', just like the src_compile phase.

I'm not saying we should change the entire existing tree, but for new
packages, please consider emake for your src_install phase.

A nice use for EXTRA_EMAKE while debugging is being able to pass in
--debug=basic to make, and have it tell you why it rebuilt a target in
src_install, since src_install should not be compiling things ;-).

To forestall one question I expect, I'd like to point a basic fact about
how Makefiles work:
Multiple commands in a single target will always be executed in series,
and not parallel - so this target will work fine:
install:
   mkdir -p $(DESTDIR)/bin
   cp -f bar $(DESTDIR)/bin

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Re: [gentoo-dev] parallel fun in src_install - going beyond the serial monotony of 'make install'

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:58:07AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> For a start, practically all Makefiles generated by a recent version
> (newer than 2001 for definite) are parallel safe. There are a few minor
> cases I saw where this wasn't true, but those packages also had other
> parallel build problems.
Typo here, I left out the word 'autotools'.

Corrected version:
For a start, practically all Makefiles generated by a recent version of
autotools (newer than 2001 for definite) are parallel safe. There are a
few minor cases I saw where this wasn't true, but those packages also
had other parallel build problems.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] backups: remove Portage cruft?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:41:56PM -0500, Mike Doty wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Molle Bestefich wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Portage takes up a lot of space and time when doing server backups.
> > 
> > How much of Portage needs to be backup up?
> > Any large parts of the tree that I can just dump?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > CC appreciated :).
> anything in /usr/portage can be regenerated by syncing.  /var/tmp can be
> dumped too.
> 
> That should be most of the space portage takes
You should also be able to ditch /var/cache/edb/dep/ safely.
Do make sure you back up the base /var/cache/edb/ and /var/lib/portage/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] backups: remove Portage cruft?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 01:15:05AM +0200, Joerg Plate wrote:
> > Do make sure you back up the base /var/cache/edb/
> Why? Anything in /var/cache doesn't need to be in a backup,
> because it can be generated when necessary (in theory...)
The counter file is important if you intend to keep /var/log/portage.
If you blow it away, and keep /var/log/portage, portage will start log
file numbers from zero again, and it becomes a pain to figure out the
real order when debugging stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 12:00:43AM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> My current idea is to draw up a formal specification of what ebuilds
> are allowed to do, and what to assume about the environment in which
> they run, as well as defining the formats of everything under
> profiles/, metadata.xml files, and other auxiliary information in the
> tree. I would envision the first version of this document to more or
> less codify existing practise, perhaps excluding some dubious tricks
> that are known to break in some cases. Generally, it should be possible
> to make the tree conform to the first version of the specification by
> changes no more significant than currently have QA bugs filed for them.
+1 from my side.

I'd like to be involved in the Manifest side, and something I'm
presently working on I should hopefully post in 2-3 days will I hope
clarify a few items at once, mainly revolving around signing - please
don't comment now, wait until I post said rough proposals.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] nss_* and system users

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 11:03:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > However, in consultation with some 
> > folks, it seems that what may be more desirable is to just add
> > users/groups to the local files/compat backends instead, and not make
> > any changes to the remote databases.
> you mean update only /etc/passwd and /etc/groups ?  modifying those files 
> directly should only happen as a fallback when all other methods fail
Spanky: the POSIX utilities in Linux are not capable of adding new
entries to non-files sources. Such is the entire reason I wrote the
'diradm' application - to provide as much as a I could of the POSIX
utils that worked against an LDAP backend. I don't know of any similar
utilities that work against some of the other sources, and indeed - some
of them are read-only - no incremental adding possible.

> > Does anyone have any strong notion of any cases where it would be
> > excessively bad for the package manager to try adding to, say, the
> > nss_nis backend in addition to the nss_files backend, or cases where
> > that would be a strongly desired behavior?
> users should be added via the normal system utilities so you dont have to 
> care 
> about the underlying storage
I believe that his concern was that POSIX implementation packaged with
sys-apps/shadow is only capable of writing to files.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] variable quoting, setting optional variables to "", and depending on virtual/libc

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 11:02:27PM -0700, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> Thomas Cort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What is the proper quoting style for using epatch? In the tree there
> > are about 3 different styles...
> 
> > What is the proper quoting style for defining the S variable? In the
> > tree there are about 3 different styles...
> It might be prudent to quote the variables, in case somebody, for
> whatever reason, has strange characters in assorted paths.
> 
> > What is the purpose of setting DEPEND and RDEPEND to "" if DEPEND and
> > RDEPEND are optional[1][2]? Isn't that just a waste of disk space /
> > bandwidth? DEPEND="virtual/libc" seems like a waste too as it is an
> > implicit system dependency[3], any reason for using it?
> > 
> > DEPEND="" # used by 1479 ebuilds
> > RDEPEND=""# used by 884 ebuilds
> These two are probably not necessary, but some devs might prefer to use
> them in their ebuilds for the sake of explicitly stating the implied.
> 
> > DEPEND="virtual/libc" # used by 809 ebuilds
> There are opinions on both sides of this subject, but I think that most
> devs are starting to see the value in this. If a package requires some
> other package, say so. It may be a bit more work (twelve keystrokes),
> but it's worth the extra effort (twelve keystrokes) to be complete.
If I have a package that produces a dynamic (non-static) binary, and it
has no other deps, then I throw in virtual/libc.

If it produces a static binary only, or no binary, then it gets "".

What I would like to see at some point, is a real way of differencing
packages that really have no runtime dependencies - not even anything in
the system packages. As to what the best way to go about it, I'm not
certain, but I do think specifying a few packages: virtual/compiler,
virtual/libc and a few limited things from system packages should be ok.
Or maybe even virtual/system (with the compiler removed from that
virtual).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:00:41PM -0700, infowolfe wrote:
> >Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi
> >mentioned.  `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't build
> >for a kernel other than the one you're running.
> Which only applies to kernel modules, not things like gnupg that don't
> REALLY need kernel sources in order to function.
Gnupg builds it's secure memory functionality differently based on what
is available from the kernel. All of the possible APIs are available in
the headers, but depending on what the kernel is configured as, affects
which of the APIs provide secure memory blocks.

With GnuPG, it happens that on older LiveCDs, the kernel that is running
from the LiveCD doesn't offer what it wants, but the one that you would
be rebooting to does.

Could upstream have handled it better? Yes, most definitely. Did they?
No, not yet. We're stuck picking up the pieces.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 08:49:41PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
> > Could upstream have handled it better? Yes, most definitely. Did they?
> > No, not yet. We're stuck picking up the pieces.
> What does upstream have to do with the decision to "chmod u+s,go-r
> /usr/bin/gpg" or not?
If using a kernel older than 2.6.9, and capabilities support is in the
kernel, using capabilities is only way to avoid needing to grant full
setuid to the binary. For kernels newer than 2.6.9, there is another
API as well.

By handling it better, I mean that the code should at runtime try both
interfaces, rather than pick one to compile into the binary.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:24:23AM +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> media-libs/x264-svn -> dev-lang/yasm
> dev-libs/lzo -> dev-lang/nasm
I responded to you on IRC about these two, please see my message there,
as from everything I can see, the DEPs are actually correct.
(The config.log for lzo-1 indicates other reasons that it isn't using
nasm, which should probably get fixed for both x86 and amd64).

> sys-apps/attr -> sys-devel/autoconf
autoconf is in the DEPEND already.
Do you want it not there?

Not reviewing the rest right now, I'm going to bed instead (03h26 here).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 01:53:34PM +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> Hi Robin,
> first of all.
> What I need is _basic_ respect on #gentoo-dev
> You here seem all polite, but there you like playing me.
> This is not a good start.
Excuse me? I have never spoken to you on the #gentoo-dev IRC channel,
and thus I cannot be 'playing you' there.

The only places I have thus communicated with you are this mailing list,
and a private IRC discussion.

You still haven't responded either to the private IRC, or here, as to
what you see about media-libs/x264-svn, dev-libs/lzo or sys-apps/attr is
wrong, and I'd really like to know.

P.S. Please don't top post.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 05:43:35PM +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> What I just need is respect.
> I might found around 150-200 bugs on (R)DEPEND. Take 200 on about 6500
> packages we have in our repository, if I take 5 minutes each, I'd end
> up to take 16 hours.
As the others said, you can either group them together, or as I noted
previously, you can use Bugzilla templates. I think the templates are
going to be a better option for you, based on not being able to see what
you meant about lzo, x264-svn and attr.

Hopefully this URL won't break, as I'm deliberately not shortening it to
show you a template:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux&version=2007.0&component=Applications&rep_platform=All&op_sys=Linux&priority=P2&bug_severity=normal&bug_status=NEW&alias=&bug_file_loc=&short_desc=Please%20stabilize%20&comment=Target%20keywords%3A%20%0D%0A%0D%0ATest%20procedure%3A%20FEATURES%3Dtest%20emerge%20%0D%0A%0D%0ATest%20procedure%3A%20FEATURES%3D-test%20emerge%0D%0A%28compile-test%20only%29&commentprivacy=0&keywords=STABLEREQ&dependson=&blocked=&maketemplate=Remember%20values%20as%20bookmarkable%20template&form_name=enter_bug&assigned_to=robbat2%40gentoo.org

From the advanced bug filing page, write in a lot of the content that
you want, and then use the button on the button 'Remember values as
bookmarkable template'.

If it takes you 5 minutes to file a bunch of near identical bugs,
something is wrong. The above is my core URL for filing stable bugs.
With a little bit of magic, you can pre-populate every field (eg look at
the KEYWORDS+metadata and work out 'CC' automatically), and then just
fill in a little bit of unique description if needed for each one.
The only time it takes me more than 30 seconds to file a bug requesting
stabilization on one of my packages is if I want to write a detailed
testplan.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-03-16 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-03-16 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
x11-misc/ASFiles2008-03-10 12:17:16 voyageur
app-portage/gatt-svn2008-03-11 18:39:22 opfer
x11-plugins/gkrellm-bfm 2008-03-11 19:03:38 lack
sys-apps/list   2008-03-11 20:08:08 genstef
sys-apps/mindi-kernel   2008-03-13 11:04:03 wschlich

Additions:
kde-base/kinfocenter2008-03-10 23:41:07 philantrop
app-portage/gatt2008-03-11 18:35:43 opfer
sci-physics/bullet  2008-03-11 19:10:20 bicatali
sys-apps/mindi-busybox  2008-03-13 11:04:02 wschlich
app-dicts/sword-ab  2008-03-14 01:32:53 beandog
app-dicts/sword-weymouth2008-03-14 01:34:09 beandog
app-dicts/sword-web 2008-03-14 01:36:01 beandog
app-dicts/sword-ukjv2008-03-14 01:37:10 beandog
app-dicts/sword-tyndale 2008-03-14 01:48:48 beandog
app-dicts/sword-twenty  2008-03-14 01:50:11 beandog
app-dicts/sword-strongshebrew   2008-03-14 01:51:26 beandog
app-dicts/sword-rwebster2008-03-14 01:53:43 beandog
app-dicts/sword-rnkjv   2008-03-14 01:54:49 beandog
app-dicts/sword-rkjnt   2008-03-14 01:55:28 beandog
app-dicts/sword-murdock 2008-03-14 01:56:15 beandog
app-dicts/sword-montgomery  2008-03-14 01:57:00 beandog
app-dicts/sword-mkjv2008-03-14 01:57:44 beandog
app-dicts/sword-litv2008-03-14 01:59:21 beandog
app-dicts/sword-jubilee2000 2008-03-14 02:04:04 beandog
app-dicts/sword-isv 2008-03-14 02:06:09 beandog
app-dicts/sword-hnv 2008-03-14 02:08:29 beandog
app-dicts/sword-geneva1599  2008-03-14 02:10:04 beandog
app-dicts/sword-drc 2008-03-14 02:11:38 beandog
app-dicts/sword-darby   2008-03-14 02:12:35 beandog
app-dicts/sword-bwe 2008-03-14 02:13:17 beandog
app-dicts/sword-bbe 2008-03-14 02:13:59 beandog
app-dicts/sword-asv 2008-03-14 02:14:57 beandog
app-dicts/sword-acv 2008-03-14 02:16:04 beandog
media-sound/codecgraph  2008-03-14 12:08:53 chainsaw
app-dicts/sword-afr1953 2008-03-14 13:40:18 beandog
app-dicts/sword-arasvd  2008-03-14 13:40:54 beandog
app-dicts/sword-bulcarigradnt   2008-03-14 13:41:47 beandog
app-dicts/sword-bulveren2008-03-14 13:42:08 beandog
app-dicts/sword-chamorro2008-03-14 13:42:29 beandog
app-dicts/sword-czebkr  2008-03-14 13:42:51 beandog
app-dicts/sword-czecep  2008-03-14 13:43:12 beandog
app-dicts/sword-czekms  2008-03-14 13:43:34 beandog
app-dicts/sword-czenkb  2008-03-14 13:43:55 beandog
app-dicts/sword-dan 2008-03-14 13:44:16 beandog
app-dicts/sword-esperanto   2008-03-14 13:44:38 beandog
app-dicts/sword-gerelb1905  2008-03-14 13:44:59 beandog
app-dicts/sword-umgreek 2008-03-14 13:45:21 beandog
app-dicts/sword-wycliffe2008-03-14 13:45:42 beandog
net-misc/nxcl   2008-03-14 14:33:09 voyageur
net-misc/qtnx   2008-03-14 14:37:37 voyageur
x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome   2008-03-15 00:51:18 dberkholz
net-voip/telepathy-haze 2008-03-15 19:14:13 coldwind
dev-python/werkzeug 2008-03-15 21:39:35 hoffie

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Removed Packages:
x11-misc/ASFiles,removed,voyageur,2008-03-10 12:17:16
app-portage/gatt-svn,removed,opfer,2008-03-11 18:39:22
x11-plugins/gkrellm-bfm,removed,lack,2008-03-11 19:03:38
sys-apps/list,removed,genstef,2008-03-11 20:08:08
sys-apps/mindi-kernel,removed,wschlich,2008-03-13 11:04:03
Added Packages:
kde-base/kinfocenter,added,philantrop,2008-03-10 23:41:07
app-portage/gatt,added,opfer,2008-03-11 18:35:43
sci-physics/bullet,added,bicatali,2008-03-11 19:10:20
sys-apps/mindi-busybox,added,wschlich,2008-03-13 11:04:02
app-dicts/sword-ab,added,beandog,2008-03-14 01:32:53
app-dicts/sword-weymouth,added,beandog,2008-03-14 01:34:09
app-dicts/sword-web,added,beandog,2008-03-14 01:36:01
app-dicts/sword-ukjv,added,beandog,2008-03-14 01:37:10
app-dicts/sword-tyndale,added,beandog,2008-03-14 01:48:48
app-dicts/sword-twenty,added,beandog,2008-03-14 01:50:11
app-dicts/sword-strong

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Bugzilla enhancements wrt AT work

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 05:37:15PM +0100, Torsten Rehn wrote:
> <+jakub> scel: basically... instead of KEYWORDREQ/STABLEREQ
> <+jakub> create keywording and stabilization components
> <+jakub> and use flags accordingly there
> <+jakub> bugzilla already has the features, why not use them
> <+jakub> also, nuke things like TESTED and STABLE
As the Bugzilla admin, this sounds reasonable, and it plays into some of
my plans wrt to Bugzilla3. In that, depending on some bits with Bugzie3,
I'd like to consider a radical re-arrangement of Products and
Components, to help users find the right place to file stuff, and also
reduce some of the needless complexity that we have.

As a short-list quickly on products:
- Demote the 'Bugzilla' product down to a component under the
  'Infrastructure' product.
- Demote 'Mirrors' to a component under 'Infrastructure'.
- Promote the components under 'Gentoo Hosted Projects' to Products of
  their own, to enable them to have their own components (I can see
  several of them benefiting from this).
- Merge the Admin product to the Infrastructure product.

Beyond the product stuff, I have a tracker bug here for the Bugzilla3
migration:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213782
If you have a feature request, open a bug, and link it to the tracker.

The bugstest.g.o side will go up soon either with Bugzilla3.0.3 or a CVS
snapshot of 3.2 (which was supposed to have a release candidate already,
but isn't available yet).

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[gentoo-dev] Escaping+Quoting notes for linux-mod.eclass

[Robin H. Johnson]

Hi folks,

Just a quick note about Escaping+Quoting stuff relevant to the usage of
linux-mod.eclass.

Up until recently, linux-mod.eclass had a bug where if you passed
variables inside the $BUILD_PARAMS variable, AND those inner variables
contained spaces, they would not be passed to Make correctly. This would
manifest itself as Make trying to compile strange targets (words from
contents of the inner variable).

After fixing this in linux-mod, alonbl pointed out to me that it was
causing some other breakages, for usages of BUILD_PARAMS that did not
have correct quoting - and thus the eclass fix now passed some newline
characters from the ebuilds to the Make, which also caused failures.

Here's the change blob from bestcrypt, as it illustrates how to fix the
issue very nicely:
> @@ -40,10 +40,10 @@ pkg_setup() {
>   BUILD_TARGETS="all"
> - BUILD_PARAMS="
> - CPP=\"$(tc-getCXX)\"
> - KERNEL_DIR=\"${KV_DIR}\"
> - VER=${KV_MAJOR}.${KV_MINOR}
> + BUILD_PARAMS=" \
> + CPP=\"$(tc-getCXX)\" \
> + KERNEL_DIR=\"${KV_DIR}\" \
> + VER=${KV_MAJOR}.${KV_MINOR} \
>   KEXT=${KV_OBJ}"

I have fixed the following builds in the tree, but there may be others
in overlays out there:
app-crypt/bestcrypt
app-emulation/mol
sys-fs/redirfs
sys-fs/fuse

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers and sys-fs/loop-aes were already safe.

If your BUILD_PARAMS does not span multiple lines you won't have issues
with the newlines, however you should probably check it anyway, test it
by having a KV_DIR that contains a space in the pathname.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-03-23 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-03-23 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
games-kids/tuxtype2 2008-03-17 03:04:02 mr_bones_
games-fps/quake3-wop2008-03-17 23:23:28 nyhm

Additions:
dev-perl/Net-SMTP-SSL   2008-03-17 08:14:16 robbat2
app-text/rtf2html   2008-03-17 10:57:23 s4t4n
dev-php/PEAR-HTML_CSS   2008-03-17 12:45:06 jokey
dev-php/PEAR-MDB2_Driver_ibase  2008-03-17 12:45:53 jokey
dev-php/PEAR-PHP_Debug  2008-03-17 12:49:34 jokey
dev-php/PEAR-Services_TinyURL   2008-03-17 12:49:49 jokey
dev-php/PEAR-Services_W3C_CSSValidator  2008-03-17 12:50:03 jokey
dev-php/PEAR-Services_W3C_HTMLValidator 2008-03-17 12:50:17 jokey
dev-php/PEAR-Text_CAPTCHA_Numeral   2008-03-17 12:50:31 jokey
dev-perl/IO-BufferedSelect  2008-03-17 15:38:48 jokey
sys-cluster/cman-lib2008-03-17 16:24:34 xmerlin
sys-cluster/dlm-lib 2008-03-17 16:26:21 xmerlin
x11-drivers/xf86-input-virtualbox   2008-03-18 22:04:03 jokey
x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox   2008-03-18 22:06:33 jokey
media-sound/kenvy24gui  2008-03-19 18:55:19 flameeyes
net-libs/xulrunner-bin  2008-03-19 20:06:06 armin76
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ast  2008-03-19 20:32:18 dberkholz
dev-php/PEAR-Net_LDAP2  2008-03-19 20:57:14 jokey
dev-perl/Lucene 2008-03-19 21:44:11 robbat2
dev-perl/Filesys-Df 2008-03-20 15:29:15 jokey
mail-filter/MailScanner 2008-03-20 15:34:14 jokey
sci-chemistry/gelemental2008-03-20 19:38:20 drac
media-libs/quesoglc 2008-03-20 19:45:32 nyhm
dev-python/pyelemental  2008-03-20 19:57:38 drac
media-sound/line6usb2008-03-21 03:41:47 nerdboy
net-zope/plone4artistssite  2008-03-21 06:37:15 tupone
virtual/pager   2008-03-21 11:16:02 opfer
app-emacs/browse-kill-ring  2008-03-21 21:38:09 ulm
app-crypt/pdfcrack  2008-03-22 03:04:07 vapier
media-plugins/vdr-xxvautotimer  2008-03-22 18:27:10 hd_brummy
net-libs/libopkele  2008-03-22 19:19:10 hollow
www-apache/mod_auth_openid  2008-03-22 19:20:30 hollow
dev-php/PEAR-DB_DataObject_FormBuilder  2008-03-22 20:15:19 hollow
dev-php/PEAR-Net_Traceroute 2008-03-22 20:18:08 hollow
media-plugins/vdr-scheduler 2008-03-22 22:20:50 hd_brummy
sys-apps/openrc 2008-03-23 00:03:21 vapier
dev-tex/herm-pic2008-03-23 00:22:33 aballier
app-emacs/emhacks   2008-03-23 02:21:53 ulm
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon2008-03-23 11:13:22 eva
dev-libs/tvmet  2008-03-23 12:09:45 dev-zero
media-fonts/stix-fonts  2008-03-23 19:25:11 dirtyepic
net-misc/vinagre2008-03-23 23:04:46 eva
media-video/cheese  2008-03-23 23:45:22 eva
dev-libs/totem-pl-parser2008-03-23 23:59:22 eva

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Removed Packages:
games-kids/tuxtype2,removed,mr_bones_,2008-03-17 03:04:02
games-fps/quake3-wop,removed,nyhm,2008-03-17 23:23:28
Added Packages:
dev-perl/Net-SMTP-SSL,added,robbat2,2008-03-17 08:14:16
app-text/rtf2html,added,s4t4n,2008-03-17 10:57:23
dev-php/PEAR-HTML_CSS,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:45:06
dev-php/PEAR-MDB2_Driver_ibase,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:45:53
dev-php/PEAR-PHP_Debug,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:49:34
dev-php/PEAR-Services_TinyURL,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:49:49
dev-php/PEAR-Services_W3C_CSSValidator,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:50:03
dev-php/PEAR-Services_W3C_HTMLValidator,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:50:17
dev-php/PEAR-Text_CAPTCHA_Numeral,added,jokey,2008-03-17 12:50:31
dev-perl/IO-BufferedSelect,added,jokey,2008-03-17 15:38:48
sys-cluster/cman-lib,added,xmerlin,2008-03-17 16:24:34
sys-cluster/dlm-lib,added,xmerlin,2008-03-17 16:26:21
x11-drivers/xf86-input-virtualbox,added,jokey,2008-03-18 22:04:03
x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox,added,jokey,2008-03-18 22:06:33
media-sound/kenvy24gui,added,flameeyes,2008-03-19 18:55:19
net-libs/xulrunner-bin,added,armin76,2008-03-19 20:06:06
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ast,added,dberkholz,2008-03-19 20:32:18
dev-php/PEAR-Net_LDAP2,added,jokey,2008-03-19 20:57:14
dev-perl/Lucene,added,robbat2,2008-03-19 21:44:11
dev-perl/Filesys-Df,added,jokey,2008-03-20 15:29:15
mail-filter/MailScanner,added,jokey,2008-03-20 15:34:14
sci-chemistry/gelemental,added,drac,2008-03-20 19:38:20
media-libs/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Ahmed Ammar (b33fc0d3)

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:41:49PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote:
> Joining us from the land of the pyramids, we have Ahmed "b33fc0d3" Ammar. 
> Although originally from Egypt, nowadays he lives in UK and studies 
> Computer Engineering there. He will be joining us to help with Gnome and 
> all sorts of miscellaneous packages. He says he enjoys a good debate so I 
> think he will make a fine addition to our mailing lists.
As nobody else has welcomed you yet, I'll be the first.

Just don't make code out of Larry, and you'll do fine here.
I think he might object to being b33fc0d3'd.

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[gentoo-dev] =sys-boot/grub-0.97-r5 testers wanted

[Robin H. Johnson]

Hi folks,

The new -r5 of Grub provides a LOT of functionality and workings over
the previous -r3 and -r4, however I would like more testers than I
previously had.

Specific functionality for testing:
- GPT partition tables (bug 178586, 211584)
- Large kernels (bug 160801)
- * Long command lines (bug 183443)
- * Ext3 partitions w/ larger inodes (bug 214563)
- *^ Xen memory detection (bug 188312)
- *^ CCISS arrays (bug 153393)

If you do undertake to test these, I strongly recommend having a LiveCD
on hand in case it goes awry.

The GPT support I've tested myself enough, but further testing on
other GPT layouts would be useful (esp. those created with partitioning
tools other than parted). It does contain some definite fixes over the
r4 codebase.

The large kernel (>3Mb) support I am concerned about side effects with,
esp.  when the configurable value is turned up high - I tested it
briefly, but not in-depth.

Items marked with a "*" were not tested by me personally, but I did get
some feedback. Items marked with a "^" I have not had any feedback
whatsoever on.

Please file problems via Bugzilla (file to base-system, I'll see it),
and success reports off-list to me.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-03-30 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-03-30 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
dev-java/cryptix2008-03-24 22:00:11 caster
dev-java/cryptix-asn1-bin   2008-03-24 22:00:12 caster
dev-java/cryptix-jce-bin2008-03-24 22:00:13 caster
dev-java/javamake-bin   2008-03-24 22:05:36 caster
dev-java/minml2 2008-03-24 22:08:53 caster
dev-java/jasmin-sable   2008-03-24 22:12:00 caster
www-servers/orion   2008-03-24 22:35:10 betelgeuse
dev-java/jsx2008-03-24 22:36:28 betelgeuse
app-laptop/smcinit  2008-03-25 12:58:32 s4t4n
sys-apps/tcb2008-03-27 14:44:47 flameeyes
sys-apps/baselayout-lite2008-03-30 15:04:45 vapier

Additions:
gnome-base/gvfs 2008-03-24 00:13:44 leio
dev-libs/libgweather2008-03-24 00:22:10 eva
media-plugins/vdr-atscepg   2008-03-24 09:55:01 hd_brummy
dev-util/gtk-doc-am 2008-03-24 15:34:57 dang
sys-cluster/pypvm   2008-03-24 22:20:30 dberkholz
sys-cluster/pbs-python  2008-03-24 22:22:04 dberkholz
media-fonts/proggy-fonts2008-03-24 23:06:12 yngwin
media-fonts/webby-fonts 2008-03-24 23:08:44 yngwin
sci-mathematics/lybniz  2008-03-25 00:04:02 bicatali
sys-boot/mbr-gpt2008-03-25 08:40:43 robbat2
x11-libs/openmotif-compat   2008-03-25 15:23:28 ulm
net-p2p/frostwire   2008-03-25 17:43:16 wltjr
dev-python/rdflib   2008-03-25 20:02:32 pythonhead
app-misc/iguanaIR   2008-03-26 17:04:17 hd_brummy
gnome-extra/mousetweaks 2008-03-26 22:45:13 eva
sys-auth/tcb2008-03-27 14:45:01 flameeyes
net-misc/mediatomb  2008-03-27 17:32:57 flameeyes
sci-libs/parmetis   2008-03-27 19:01:47 bicatali
app-emacs/grep-edit 2008-03-27 19:24:20 ulm
media-plugins/vdr-extb  2008-03-27 22:17:38 hd_brummy
dev-java/jazzy  2008-03-28 14:23:03 betelgeuse
net-analyzer/centreon   2008-03-28 18:38:06 hollow
dev-libs/ossp-uuid  2008-03-28 23:45:48 dev-zero
media-sound/miniaudicle 2008-03-29 23:21:04 cedk
media-sound/audicle 2008-03-30 00:20:06 cedk
media-sound/sndpeek 2008-03-30 00:30:05 cedk
media-sound/tapestrea   2008-03-30 00:52:47 cedk

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Removed Packages:
dev-java/cryptix,removed,caster,2008-03-24 22:00:11
dev-java/cryptix-asn1-bin,removed,caster,2008-03-24 22:00:12
dev-java/cryptix-jce-bin,removed,caster,2008-03-24 22:00:13
dev-java/javamake-bin,removed,caster,2008-03-24 22:05:36
dev-java/minml2,removed,caster,2008-03-24 22:08:53
dev-java/jasmin-sable,removed,caster,2008-03-24 22:12:00
www-servers/orion,removed,betelgeuse,2008-03-24 22:35:10
dev-java/jsx,removed,betelgeuse,2008-03-24 22:36:28
app-laptop/smcinit,removed,s4t4n,2008-03-25 12:58:32
sys-apps/tcb,removed,flameeyes,2008-03-27 14:44:47
sys-apps/baselayout-lite,removed,vapier,2008-03-30 15:04:45
Added Packages:
gnome-base/gvfs,added,leio,2008-03-24 00:13:44
dev-libs/libgweather,added,eva,2008-03-24 00:22:10
media-plugins/vdr-atscepg,added,hd_brummy,2008-03-24 09:55:01
dev-util/gtk-doc-am,added,dang,2008-03-24 15:34:57
sys-cluster/pypvm,added,dberkholz,2008-03-24 22:20:30
sys-cluster/pbs-python,added,dberkholz,2008-03-24 22:22:04
media-fonts/proggy-fonts,added,yngwin,2008-03-24 23:06:12
media-fonts/webby-fonts,added,yngwin,2008-03-24 23:08:44
sci-mathematics/lybniz,added,bicatali,2008-03-25 00:04:02
sys-boot/mbr-gpt,added,robbat2,2008-03-25 08:40:43
x11-libs/openmotif-compat,added,ulm,2008-03-25 15:23:28
net-p2p/frostwire,added,wltjr,2008-03-25 17:43:16
dev-python/rdflib,added,pythonhead,2008-03-25 20:02:32
app-misc/iguanaIR,added,hd_brummy,2008-03-26 17:04:17
gnome-extra/mousetweaks,added,eva,2008-03-26 22:45:13
sys-auth/tcb,added,flameeyes,2008-03-27 14:45:01
net-misc/mediatomb,added,flameeyes,2008-03-27 17:32:57
sci-libs/parmetis,added,bicatali,2008-03-27 19:01:47
app-emacs/grep-edit,added,ulm,2008-03-27 19:24:20
media-plugins/vdr-extb,added,hd_brummy,2008-03-27 22:17:38
dev-java/jazzy,added,betelgeuse,2008-03-28 14:23:03
net-analyzer/centreon,added,hollow,2008-03-28 18:38:06
dev-libs/ossp-uuid,added,dev-zero,2008-03-28 23:45:48
media-sound/miniaudicle,added,cedk,2008-03-29 23:21:04
media-sound/audicle,added,cedk,2008-03-30 00:20:06
media-sound/sndpeek,added,cedk,2008-03-30 00:30:05
media-sound/tapestrea,added,cedk,2008-03-30 00:52:47

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: =sys-boot/grub-0.97-r5 testers wanted

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:33:54PM +, Duncan wrote:
> "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on 
> Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:37:13 -0700:
> > The new -r5 of Grub provides a LOT of functionality and workings over
> > the previous -r3 and -r4, however I would like more testers than I
> > previously had.
> Is there a grub-static to test, for those of us on ~amd64 no-multilib?
The one amd64 guy I asked said you should be able to use the normal
sys-boot/grub. If that's not the case, file a bug please.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] =sys-boot/grub-0.97-r5 testers wanted

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:37:13PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> The new -r5 of Grub provides a LOT of functionality and workings over
> the previous -r3 and -r4, however I would like more testers than I
> previously had.
The new grub is now out of package.mask, thanks to those that tested.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-04-06 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-04-06 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
x11-themes/gtk-engines-mist 2008-03-31 06:09:41 remi
dev-libs/tinyq  2008-03-31 09:44:49 armin76
net-ftp/gtkfxp  2008-03-31 09:45:31 armin76
net-libs/libhttpd-persistent2008-03-31 09:46:11 armin76
app-admin/ctcs  2008-03-31 09:47:05 armin76
net-ftp/swiftfxp2008-03-31 09:47:45 armin76
x11-misc/xnview 2008-04-01 15:49:28 drac
mail-client/ciphire-mail2008-04-04 09:22:06 tove
media-gfx/gimp-print2008-04-05 13:51:00 genstef
app-vim/ant 2008-04-06 14:58:26 hawking

Additions:
dev-ruby/revolution 2008-03-31 18:42:42 graaff
xfce-extra/xfmpc2008-04-01 01:44:41 angelos
app-office/homebank 2008-04-01 12:24:09 calchan
profiles/arch/alpha 2008-04-01 17:39:52 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/amd64 2008-04-01 17:39:53 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/arm   2008-04-01 17:39:55 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/hppa  2008-04-01 17:39:55 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/ia64  2008-04-01 17:39:56 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/m68k  2008-04-01 17:39:57 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/mips  2008-04-01 17:39:57 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/powerpc   2008-04-01 17:39:59 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/s390  2008-04-01 17:40:02 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/sh2008-04-01 17:40:02 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/sparc 2008-04-01 17:40:03 wolf31o2
profiles/arch/x86   2008-04-01 17:40:04 wolf31o2
profiles/features   2008-04-01 17:41:05 wolf31o2
dev-java/dsiutils   2008-04-02 07:54:41 ali_bush
app-vim/vim-spell-el2008-04-02 12:46:13 agorf
dev-ruby/osmlib-base2008-04-02 21:00:28 hanno
dev-python/virtualenv   2008-04-03 00:24:53 pythonhead
dev-util/gitosis-gentoo 2008-04-04 07:22:43 robbat2
net-print/gutenprint2008-04-05 13:30:55 genstef
kde-misc/kgrab  2008-04-05 16:50:27 philantrop
kde-misc/kgraphviewer   2008-04-05 16:50:50 philantrop
kde-misc/kio_gopher 2008-04-05 16:51:14 philantrop
kde-misc/libksane   2008-04-05 16:51:37 philantrop
dev-ruby/mkrf   2008-04-06 08:20:20 graaff
app-text/xournal2008-04-06 12:30:42 rbu
app-vim/ant_menu2008-04-06 14:53:47 hawking

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Removed Packages:
x11-themes/gtk-engines-mist,removed,remi,2008-03-31 06:09:41
dev-libs/tinyq,removed,armin76,2008-03-31 09:44:49
net-ftp/gtkfxp,removed,armin76,2008-03-31 09:45:31
net-libs/libhttpd-persistent,removed,armin76,2008-03-31 09:46:11
app-admin/ctcs,removed,armin76,2008-03-31 09:47:05
net-ftp/swiftfxp,removed,armin76,2008-03-31 09:47:45
x11-misc/xnview,removed,drac,2008-04-01 15:49:28
mail-client/ciphire-mail,removed,tove,2008-04-04 09:22:06
media-gfx/gimp-print,removed,genstef,2008-04-05 13:51:00
app-vim/ant,removed,hawking,2008-04-06 14:58:26
Added Packages:
dev-ruby/revolution,added,graaff,2008-03-31 18:42:42
xfce-extra/xfmpc,added,angelos,2008-04-01 01:44:41
app-office/homebank,added,calchan,2008-04-01 12:24:09
profiles/arch/alpha,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:52
profiles/arch/amd64,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:53
profiles/arch/arm,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:55
profiles/arch/hppa,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:55
profiles/arch/ia64,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:56
profiles/arch/m68k,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:57
profiles/arch/mips,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:57
profiles/arch/powerpc,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:39:59
profiles/arch/s390,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:40:02
profiles/arch/sh,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:40:02
profiles/arch/sparc,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:40:03
profiles/arch/x86,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:40:04
profiles/features,added,wolf31o2,2008-04-01 17:41:05
dev-java/dsiutils,added,ali_bush,2008-04-02 07:54:41
app-vim/vim-spell-el,added,agorf,2008-04-02 12:46:13
dev-ruby/osmlib-base,added,hanno,2008-04-02 21:00:28
dev-python/virtualenv,added,pythonhead,2008-04-03 00:24:53
dev-util/gitosis-gentoo,added,robbat2,2008-04-04 07:22:43
net-print/gutenprint,added,genstef,2008-04-05 13:30:55
kde-misc/kgrab,added,philantrop,2008-04-05 16:50:27
kde-misc/kgraphviewer,added,philantrop,2008-04-05 16:50:50
kde-misc/kio_gopher,added,philantrop,2008-04-05 16:51:14
kde-misc/libksane,added,philantrop,2008-04-05 16:51:37
dev-ruby/mkrf,added,graaff,2008-04-06 08:20:20
app-text/xournal,added,rbu,2008-04-06 12:30:42
app-vim/ant_menu,added,hawking,2008-04-06 14:53:47

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:10:03AM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote:
> Guess I wasn't clear enough. There is no filtering in that list based on 
> the developer role in Gentoo. It's all Gentoo developers marked as active 
> in LDAP. We first need to add the LDAP attributes before we can add the 
> filter to the script. Might as well attach the script too.
Furthermore, to clarify, while it includes all CVS add/remove/modify
commits, it doesn't include any SVN operations.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 06:30:17PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> That's worrying, I'm not supposed to have commit access to the tree.
> trustees docs, yes but that's the limit. To my knowledge, I've never 
> made a commit there either.
That's for ALL of CVS. Not just gentoo-x86.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:50:52PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>   Ways to track commit stats of various sorts came up, such as cia.vc 
>   and ohloh. cia seems to have too much downtime to rely on. ciaranm 
>   talked with ohloh people already. ohloh would require some 
>   modifications to ohcount to recognize ebuilds and eclasses, and a 
>   full copy of the cvs repository to start, but it seems worth 
>   exploring. Betelgeuse said he would tar up a copy of the gentoo-x86 
>   repo.
Having OhLoh would be nice, but over the course of the last year,
they've found that their system is not really capable of handling the
scope of the gentoo-x86 CVS tree.

Their system tries to get the full history every time, which is a design
issue. See the constant failures here:
http://www.ohloh.net/projects/gentoo/enlistments?query=gentoo-x86&sort=module_name&commit=Update

I did get in touch with them a year ago:
http://www.ohloh.net/forums/11/topics/183
This moved to private email, and I suggested some changes to how they
were doing it, as well as telling them how to fetch the gentoo-x86 tree
with rsync - but they (Robin Luckey) never got back to me beyond that.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:28:43AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:21:20 -0700
> "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Having OhLoh would be nice, but over the course of the last year,
> > they've found that their system is not really capable of handling the
> > scope of the gentoo-x86 CVS tree.
> As I understand it, they need a full history to start off. But once
> they have that, it's just a case of pulling every commit, which they
> should be able to handle. Jason Allen said today that a tarball of the
> repo should probably be enough to get it working.
That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they never
got back to me on that, nor used it ever.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:41:09AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:37:31 -0700
> "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's why I setup them up with the ability to rsync it, and they
> > never got back to me on that, nor used it ever.
> Hrm, curious. They seem interested and alive currently. Perhaps it's
> worth another shot...
Get Robin Lackey @ OhLoh to mail me again then. I'm busy the next week
as I'm at the MySQL conference in Santa Clara, but it's just a matter of
giving him the access details again.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 27

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:35:36PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> How does everyone feel about the proposed layout and syntaxes of GLEP 27?
> Do we want to revisit this GLEP with an updated GLEP or status quo?
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html
I'm strongly in favour of moving forward with it.

Way back in the past of Gentoo, a stab was made at keeping a single
static file, but nobody bothered with it, since it wasn't in the
gentoo-x86 tree.

For GLEP27, I believe there was a SoC some years ago implementing it, I
don't know what became of that code.

My specific interest in it is for having a sane UID/GIDs that are
identical between a set of machines, regardless of the order packages
are emerged in.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-04-13 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-04-13 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
media-video/x264-svn-encoder2008-04-07 22:46:11 yngwin
media-libs/x264-svn 2008-04-07 22:47:24 yngwin
dev-lang/smalltalkx 2008-04-09 13:30:23 araujo
media-sound/opmixer 2008-04-09 14:01:34 drac
app-misc/pastemecli 2008-04-09 14:11:57 armin76
sys-kernel/suspend2-sources 2008-04-12 19:59:55 nelchael
sys-apps/suspend2-userui2008-04-12 20:01:20 nelchael
media-fonts/skinenigmang-fonts  2008-04-13 16:28:50 zzam

Additions:
media-fonts/skinenigmang-fonts  2008-04-07 16:24:29 zzam
dev-tex/mh  2008-04-07 17:53:23 aballier
dev-libs/librelp2008-04-07 21:14:10 dev-zero
app-admin/eselect-unison2008-04-07 21:29:17 aballier
app-admin/rsyslog   2008-04-07 21:30:00 dev-zero
media-libs/x264 2008-04-07 21:43:23 yngwin
media-video/x264-encoder2008-04-07 21:50:34 yngwin
x11-themes/pekwm-themes-hewphoria   2008-04-08 13:53:00 yngwin
rox-base/rox-launch 2008-04-08 16:07:05 lack
dev-util/debhelper  2008-04-09 03:18:27 vapier
sys-apps/edac-utils 2008-04-09 20:53:08 dev-zero
x11-misc/xnots  2008-04-10 08:55:51 nelchael
x11-plugins/wmtime  2008-04-11 09:44:24 s4t4n
dev-tcltk/tkimg 2008-04-11 11:26:20 bicatali
sci-astronomy/skycat2008-04-11 11:29:58 bicatali
media-video/ksubtitleripper 2008-04-11 20:16:51 yngwin
media-sound/lastfmproxy 2008-04-11 23:39:07 yngwin
dev-java/sblim-cim-client   2008-04-12 01:54:04 ali_bush
app-laptop/kthinkbat2008-04-12 18:36:16 dirtyepic
net-analyzer/pnp4nagios 2008-04-12 18:42:37 caleb
net-analyzer/nagircbot  2008-04-12 19:22:14 caleb
media-fonts/pigiarniq   2008-04-13 00:20:27 yngwin
games-server/greenhouse 2008-04-13 07:26:38 jmglov
media-fonts/vdrsymbols-ttf  2008-04-13 15:59:58 zzam

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Removed Packages:
media-video/x264-svn-encoder,removed,yngwin,2008-04-07 22:46:11
media-libs/x264-svn,removed,yngwin,2008-04-07 22:47:24
dev-lang/smalltalkx,removed,araujo,2008-04-09 13:30:23
media-sound/opmixer,removed,drac,2008-04-09 14:01:34
app-misc/pastemecli,removed,armin76,2008-04-09 14:11:57
sys-kernel/suspend2-sources,removed,nelchael,2008-04-12 19:59:55
sys-apps/suspend2-userui,removed,nelchael,2008-04-12 20:01:20
media-fonts/skinenigmang-fonts,removed,zzam,2008-04-13 16:28:50
Added Packages:
media-fonts/skinenigmang-fonts,added,zzam,2008-04-07 16:24:29
dev-tex/mh,added,aballier,2008-04-07 17:53:23
dev-libs/librelp,added,dev-zero,2008-04-07 21:14:10
app-admin/eselect-unison,added,aballier,2008-04-07 21:29:17
app-admin/rsyslog,added,dev-zero,2008-04-07 21:30:00
media-libs/x264,added,yngwin,2008-04-07 21:43:23
media-video/x264-encoder,added,yngwin,2008-04-07 21:50:34
x11-themes/pekwm-themes-hewphoria,added,yngwin,2008-04-08 13:53:00
rox-base/rox-launch,added,lack,2008-04-08 16:07:05
dev-util/debhelper,added,vapier,2008-04-09 03:18:27
sys-apps/edac-utils,added,dev-zero,2008-04-09 20:53:08
x11-misc/xnots,added,nelchael,2008-04-10 08:55:51
x11-plugins/wmtime,added,s4t4n,2008-04-11 09:44:24
dev-tcltk/tkimg,added,bicatali,2008-04-11 11:26:20
sci-astronomy/skycat,added,bicatali,2008-04-11 11:29:58
media-video/ksubtitleripper,added,yngwin,2008-04-11 20:16:51
media-sound/lastfmproxy,added,yngwin,2008-04-11 23:39:07
dev-java/sblim-cim-client,added,ali_bush,2008-04-12 01:54:04
app-laptop/kthinkbat,added,dirtyepic,2008-04-12 18:36:16
net-analyzer/pnp4nagios,added,caleb,2008-04-12 18:42:37
net-analyzer/nagircbot,added,caleb,2008-04-12 19:22:14
media-fonts/pigiarniq,added,yngwin,2008-04-13 00:20:27
games-server/greenhouse,added,jmglov,2008-04-13 07:26:38
media-fonts/vdrsymbols-ttf,added,zzam,2008-04-13 15:59:58

Done.

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-04-20 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-04-20 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks  2008-04-14 18:58:17 cardoe
dev-scheme/mit-scheme   2008-04-14 21:19:26 hkbst
dev-lisp/gcl-cvs2008-04-14 21:28:00 hkbst
virtual/postgresql-libs 2008-04-15 09:21:43 dev-zero

Additions:
net-misc/ethercard-diag 2008-04-14 05:59:50 vapier
media-sound/aqualung2008-04-15 03:05:05 yngwin
app-admin/eselect-postgresql2008-04-15 08:37:36 dev-zero
dev-java/sux4j  2008-04-15 09:02:22 ali_bush
dev-db/postgresql-docs  2008-04-15 09:12:20 dev-zero
dev-db/postgresql-base  2008-04-15 09:23:34 dev-zero
dev-db/postgresql-server2008-04-15 09:29:54 dev-zero
virtual/postgresql-base 2008-04-15 09:41:07 dev-zero
dev-util/guilt  2008-04-16 19:35:46 ingmar
net-dns/fpdns   2008-04-16 21:20:20 wschlich
sci-libs/xylib  2008-04-18 08:50:58 bicatali
app-forensics/zzuf  2008-04-19 00:37:48 flameeyes
media-gfx/icns2png  2008-04-19 12:28:00 drac
dev-perl/File-SearchPath2008-04-19 18:46:06 robbat2
dev-perl/Sphinx-Config  2008-04-19 18:47:33 robbat2
dev-perl/Sphinx-Search  2008-04-19 18:49:34 robbat2
app-accessibility/speakup   2008-04-19 21:20:18 williamh
dev-embedded/openocd2008-04-20 01:33:54 vapier
dev-java/json-simple2008-04-20 14:33:15 betelgeuse
net-misc/twitux 2008-04-20 14:36:03 welp
app-crypt/elettra   2008-04-20 19:42:48 lu_zero

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Removed Packages:
sys-fs/cryptsetup-luks,removed,cardoe,2008-04-14 18:58:17
dev-scheme/mit-scheme,removed,hkbst,2008-04-14 21:19:26
dev-lisp/gcl-cvs,removed,hkbst,2008-04-14 21:28:00
virtual/postgresql-libs,removed,dev-zero,2008-04-15 09:21:43
Added Packages:
net-misc/ethercard-diag,added,vapier,2008-04-14 05:59:50
media-sound/aqualung,added,yngwin,2008-04-15 03:05:05
app-admin/eselect-postgresql,added,dev-zero,2008-04-15 08:37:36
dev-java/sux4j,added,ali_bush,2008-04-15 09:02:22
dev-db/postgresql-docs,added,dev-zero,2008-04-15 09:12:20
dev-db/postgresql-base,added,dev-zero,2008-04-15 09:23:34
dev-db/postgresql-server,added,dev-zero,2008-04-15 09:29:54
virtual/postgresql-base,added,dev-zero,2008-04-15 09:41:07
dev-util/guilt,added,ingmar,2008-04-16 19:35:46
net-dns/fpdns,added,wschlich,2008-04-16 21:20:20
sci-libs/xylib,added,bicatali,2008-04-18 08:50:58
app-forensics/zzuf,added,flameeyes,2008-04-19 00:37:48
media-gfx/icns2png,added,drac,2008-04-19 12:28:00
dev-perl/File-SearchPath,added,robbat2,2008-04-19 18:46:06
dev-perl/Sphinx-Config,added,robbat2,2008-04-19 18:47:33
dev-perl/Sphinx-Search,added,robbat2,2008-04-19 18:49:34
app-accessibility/speakup,added,williamh,2008-04-19 21:20:18
dev-embedded/openocd,added,vapier,2008-04-20 01:33:54
dev-java/json-simple,added,betelgeuse,2008-04-20 14:33:15
net-misc/twitux,added,welp,2008-04-20 14:36:03
app-crypt/elettra,added,lu_zero,2008-04-20 19:42:48

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Putting edac and ipmi (and other server-related) packages in a herd

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:52:01PM +0400, Peter Volkov wrote:
> sys-apps/ipmitool
> sys-apps/ipmiutil
> sys-libs/freeipmi
> sys-libs/openipmi
> sys-apps/edac-utils
> 
> and most of them are maintained by robbat2. So Robin, please,
> comment! :)
Please don't CC me since I am actually on the list.

If you paid attention to my previous pleas looking for maintainers,
you'd see that _all_ o the IPMI stuff is up for grabs, because I don't
personally have any access to IPMI hardware anymore. (iSCSI stuff is up
too).

Thusly, as I've said several times, if you have the hardware, take the
bugs, and put yourself in the metadata.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:21:27PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
> OK, it seems that hard lines in multipart configs seem to be an issue, so I'm 
> doing this now.
> 
> For a summary of why we're using hard lines you can read this thread
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/45756/focus=45765

Do you plan to reimplement parsing of the complete ip syntax for
addresses and routes?

See my attached example from work, we use a lot of the various options
on stuff.

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# Prefer iproute2 over ifconfig
modules=( "iproute2" )

ext="AAA.BBB.CCC" #REMOVED-FOR-PRIVACY
oob="DDD.EEE.FFF" #REMOVED-FOR-PRIVACY
int="GGG.HHH.III" #REMOVED-FOR-PRIVACY

RC_NEED_bond0="net.eth2 net.eth3"

# Primary IP must come first
config_bond0=( "${int}.51/24" "${int}.22/24" "${int}.23/24" )
slaves_bond0="eth2 eth3"
mtu_bond0="9000"
#slaves_bond0="eth3"

config_eth0=( "${oob}.145/27" )
config_eth1=(
"${ext}.51/24" # REMOVED
"${ext}.20/24" # REMOVED
"${ext}.21/24" # REMOVED
"${ext}.22/24" # REMOVED
"${ext}.23/24" # REMOVED
"${ext}.37/24" # REMOVED
"${ext}.71/24" # REMOVED
)
mtu_eth1="9000"
config_eth2=( "null" ) 
#config_eth2=( "${ext}.51/24" )
config_eth3=( "null" )

config_lo=(
"${ext}.30/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.31/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.32/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.33/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.34/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.35/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.36/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.37/32 broadcast - scope host"
"${ext}.38/32 broadcast - scope host"
)


# Routing
routes_eth0=(
"${oob}.128/27 dev eth0 table oob scope link" 
"default via ${oob}.129 table oob"
)

routes_eth1=( # was eth1
"${ext}.0/24 dev eth1 table external scope link"
"default via ${ext}.10 dev eth1"
)

routes_bond0=(
"${int}.0/8 dev bond0 table internal scope link"
"${int}.192/27 dev bond0 mtu 1500 table internal scope link"
"default via ${int}.2 bond0 table internal"
)

rules_bond0=(
"from ${int}.0/24 table internal priority 700 dev bond0"
"to ${int}.0/24 table internal priority 750 dev bond0"
)

rules_eth0=( 
"from ${oob}.128/27 table oob priority 500" 
"to ${oob}.128/27 table oob priority 550" 
)

rules_eth1=( # was eth1
"from ${ext}.0/24 table external priority 400"
"to ${ext}.0/24 table external priority 450"
)

# Now some fun functionality.
# This flushes the Linux route cache
# It is important on failover to do this
# otherwise traffic might try an old route for a while.
flush_route_cache() {
ebegin "Flushing route cache for ${IFACE}"
ip route flush cache dev ${IFACE}
ret=$?
eend $ret
return $ret
}

# This will take a rules array, and process it.
ip_rule_runner() {
cmd="$1"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
rules=( "${!rules_iface}" )
max=$(([EMAIL PROTECTED] - 1))
cmd="ip rule ${cmd}"
for ln in `seq 0 $max`; do
ebegin "   ${cmd} ${rules[$ln]}"
${cmd} ${rules[$ln]}
eend $?
done
}

postup() {
einfo "Adding rules"
ip_rule_runner add
flush_route_cache
}
predown() {
einfo "Removing rules"
ip_rule_runner del
flush_route_cache
}

check_link() {
ethtool "${IFACE}" | grep -q 'Link detected: yes'
}
preup() {
case $IFACE in
ppp*|ippp*|isdn*|plip*|lo*|irda*|dummy*|ipsec*|tun*|tap*)
;;
bond*)
;;
eth*)
# Try to force link up first, for e1000 special case
i=0
while [ $i -lt 5 ] && ! check_link; do
[ $i -gt 0 ] && sleep 0.2
ip link set ${IFACE} up
i=$(($i+1))
done
if ! check_link; then
ewarn "No link on ${IFACE}, aborting configuration"
ip link set $IFACE down
# commented out for the moment, we need to check if we 
are in a bond
#return 1
fi
;;
esac
return 0
}

# Do not use the metric calculation code
# It is slow with lots of routes.
metric=0
metric_eth0=0
metric_eth1=0
metric_eth2=0
metric_eth3=0
metric_eth4=0
metric_eth5=0
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Re: [gentoo-dev] config_eth0 deprecated - new name?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:04:38PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 April 2008 21:46:18 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 04:21:27PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
> > > OK, it seems that hard lines in multipart configs seem to be an issue, so
> > > I'm doing this now.
> > >
> > > For a summary of why we're using hard lines you can read this thread
> > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/45756/focus=45765
> >
> > Do you plan to reimplement parsing of the complete ip syntax for
> > addresses and routes?
> 
> Not at all. If I did then we're back to using newlines.
> Basically we need something like
> ipaddrs=address1 address2 address3
> for addresses, and
> routes=dest gateway dest gateway dest gateway
> or
> routes=route1 route2 route3
> route1=dest gateway
> route2=dest gateway
> route3=dest gateway
> for routes
The problem in this is that you cannot set the properties for each
address or route. Please don't take us back to the stoneage of writing
the advanced networking configuration manually.

As an example of an ip address line with properties:
${ext}.30/32 broadcast - scope host

An an example of a route with properties:
${int}.192/27 dev bond0 mtu 1500 table internal scope link
(my normal mtu on the internal link is 9k, but part of the subnet runs
at 1500 for netbooting on dumb cards)

Doing these in {pre,post}{up,down} means we basically end up
reimplementing the baselayout1 array-based config manually in the
blocks. I already do that for the ip_rule_runner block.

> No, we won't support that. However, we will bring back ip ranges for the last 
> ocet like so
> 1.2.3.4-10/24
I care about the address ranges far less than the additional properties.

> After seeing that I take it you'ed vote for the BSD named routing style?
I'm ambivalent about the naming scheme - I do care greatly about the
easy of configuration for the properties.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Prioritising contact information in metadata.xml

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:05:35PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> All in all I guess we need to make the rules up as we go and decide
> policy later. I suggest the first herd/address in the list should be
> the primary contact. If you don't agree with that, please consult
> metadata.xml for the package or reassign to bug-wranglers with an
> explanation (and perhaps a promise to quickly change metadata.xml. :)
Review the posts I made on the list last year about how to do assignment
in a sane fashion. I'll link them tonight when I'm back from the party
I'm hitting up.

They do describe all the cases that people came up with, including where
herds are too-specific or too broad.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-04-27 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-04-27 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
net-firewall/conntrack  2008-04-21 05:33:28 jer
sci-electronics/lard2008-04-21 17:13:26 calchan
sci-libs/libgdgeda  2008-04-21 17:19:06 calchan
sys-fs/fuse-python  2008-04-21 19:49:32 jokey

Additions:
dev-python/fuse-python  2008-04-21 19:47:01 jokey
media-plugins/vdr-suspendoutput 2008-04-22 10:04:43 zzam
app-emacs/scheme-complete   2008-04-22 11:45:47 ulm
dev-python/vobject  2008-04-22 16:03:02 dev-zero
dev-cpp/libmcpp 2008-04-23 14:01:51 caleb
dev-ruby/imagesize  2008-04-23 18:10:43 graaff
app-xemacs/sun  2008-04-23 19:02:06 graaff
app-xemacs/xemacs-packages-all  2008-04-23 19:12:19 graaff
media-gfx/pngcheck  2008-04-23 19:22:41 drac
sys-block/megarc2008-04-23 21:32:43 wschlich
sys-block/megamgr   2008-04-24 08:39:39 wschlich
net-libs/gupnp-av   2008-04-24 15:29:11 drac
dev-perl/Readonly   2008-04-24 16:34:49 yuval
games-emulation/sdlmame 2008-04-24 20:26:29 joker
gnome-extra/tasks   2008-04-24 22:21:01 eva
net-analyzer/portbunny  2008-04-25 10:45:14 wschlich
www-apache/passenger2008-04-25 10:56:33 hollow
app-arch/libpar22008-04-25 22:58:21 yngwin
media-sound/playspc 2008-04-27 04:49:09 drac
sys-libs/hardened-glibc 2008-04-27 22:29:48 pappy

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Removed Packages:
net-firewall/conntrack,removed,jer,2008-04-21 05:33:28
sci-electronics/lard,removed,calchan,2008-04-21 17:13:26
sci-libs/libgdgeda,removed,calchan,2008-04-21 17:19:06
sys-fs/fuse-python,removed,jokey,2008-04-21 19:49:32
Added Packages:
dev-python/fuse-python,added,jokey,2008-04-21 19:47:01
media-plugins/vdr-suspendoutput,added,zzam,2008-04-22 10:04:43
app-emacs/scheme-complete,added,ulm,2008-04-22 11:45:47
dev-python/vobject,added,dev-zero,2008-04-22 16:03:02
dev-cpp/libmcpp,added,caleb,2008-04-23 14:01:51
dev-ruby/imagesize,added,graaff,2008-04-23 18:10:43
app-xemacs/sun,added,graaff,2008-04-23 19:02:06
app-xemacs/xemacs-packages-all,added,graaff,2008-04-23 19:12:19
media-gfx/pngcheck,added,drac,2008-04-23 19:22:41
sys-block/megarc,added,wschlich,2008-04-23 21:32:43
sys-block/megamgr,added,wschlich,2008-04-24 08:39:39
net-libs/gupnp-av,added,drac,2008-04-24 15:29:11
dev-perl/Readonly,added,yuval,2008-04-24 16:34:49
games-emulation/sdlmame,added,joker,2008-04-24 20:26:29
gnome-extra/tasks,added,eva,2008-04-24 22:21:01
net-analyzer/portbunny,added,wschlich,2008-04-25 10:45:14
www-apache/passenger,added,hollow,2008-04-25 10:56:33
app-arch/libpar2,added,yngwin,2008-04-25 22:58:21
media-sound/playspc,added,drac,2008-04-27 04:49:09
sys-libs/hardened-glibc,added,pappy,2008-04-27 22:29:48

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Prioritising contact information in metadata.xml

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 07:34:51AM +0200, Tiziano M?ller wrote:
> Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> > All in all I guess we need to make the rules up as we go and decide
> > policy later. I suggest the first herd/address in the list should be
> > the primary contact. If you don't agree with that, please consult
> > metadata.xml for the package or reassign to bug-wranglers with an
> > explanation (and perhaps a promise to quickly change metadata.xml. :)
> We're using XML 1.0 and as far as I know (please correct me if I'm wrong)
> does the specification not guarantee element order. And because of this I
> don't understand why we're not introducing a new attribute (let's call
> it "primary_maintainer") which can be set to "true" for the primary
> herd/maintainer (and which is being interpreted as "false" if not present).
> Then it's clear which address has to be put in Bugzilla's "Assigned To:"
> field...
Here was the original discussion and proposal on how to handle this:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48485

Why didn't it happen? No time to implement it basically.

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[gentoo-dev] Upcoming infra work - Bugzilla, CVS/SVN/Git

[Robin H. Johnson]

Hi folks,

Hopefully sometime THIS weekend, I'll be moving Bugzilla as well at our
VCS services (CVS/SVN/Git on stork.gentoo.org) to new machines.

I don't have a more accurate time estimate of when yet, but downtimes
are going to be minimal, as the flips will be near-live.

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[gentoo-dev] Bugzilla migration 20h30 - 21h30 UTC TODAY

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:02:47AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> Hopefully sometime THIS weekend, I'll be moving Bugzilla as well at our
> VCS services (CVS/SVN/Git on stork.gentoo.org) to new machines.
> 
> I don't have a more accurate time estimate of when yet, but downtimes
> are going to be minimal, as the flips will be near-live.
I'm moving bugzilla in <30 minutes.
Starting at 20h30 UTC.

Should take less than 1 hour.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla migration DONE

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:09:34PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > I don't have a more accurate time estimate of when yet, but downtimes
> > are going to be minimal, as the flips will be near-live.
> I'm moving bugzilla in <30 minutes.
> Starting at 20h30 UTC.

Migration is done.

Please see bug 220283 for any outstanding issues.

Partial list of stuff for folks to be aware of:
- TLS for outgoing mail
- Bug dependency graphs are broken in SOME places only
- Jeeves needs to move

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-05-04 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-05-04 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
app-admin/dirvish   2008-04-28 20:11:59 ramereth
sys-libs/hardened-glibc 2008-04-29 01:05:44 pappy
sys-devel/hardened-gcc  2008-04-29 01:06:35 pappy
dev-util/fenris 2008-04-30 13:48:03 drac
dev-libs/log4c  2008-05-02 23:29:14 dragonheart

Additions:
java-virtuals/jaf   2008-04-28 00:56:42 betelgeuse
java-virtuals/jmx   2008-04-28 01:31:59 betelgeuse
dev-python/shm  2008-04-28 02:40:42 chtekk
x11-plugins/wmfrog  2008-04-28 15:41:44 drac
app-backup/dirvish  2008-04-28 21:03:40 ramereth
sys-devel/hardened-gcc  2008-04-29 00:42:14 pappy
dev-perl/File-chmod 2008-04-29 14:24:40 tove
dev-perl/Test-Script2008-04-29 14:32:21 tove
net-libs/serf   2008-04-30 19:12:06 hollow
dev-libs/libbrahe   2008-05-01 00:30:01 dev-zero
dev-python/decorator2008-05-02 04:47:32 pythonhead
app-i18n/scim-wijesekera2008-05-02 15:41:33 matsuu
dev-scheme/sigscheme2008-05-02 16:59:21 hkbst
java-virtuals/saaj-api  2008-05-03 16:51:30 betelgeuse
sci-visualization/extrema   2008-05-03 18:08:28 grozin
x11-wm/stumpwm  2008-05-04 01:32:30 jmglov
java-virtuals/sun-jdk   2008-05-04 12:25:45 betelgeuse

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Removed Packages:
app-admin/dirvish,removed,ramereth,2008-04-28 20:11:59
sys-libs/hardened-glibc,removed,pappy,2008-04-29 01:05:44
sys-devel/hardened-gcc,removed,pappy,2008-04-29 01:06:35
dev-util/fenris,removed,drac,2008-04-30 13:48:03
dev-libs/log4c,removed,dragonheart,2008-05-02 23:29:14
Added Packages:
java-virtuals/jaf,added,betelgeuse,2008-04-28 00:56:42
java-virtuals/jmx,added,betelgeuse,2008-04-28 01:31:59
dev-python/shm,added,chtekk,2008-04-28 02:40:42
x11-plugins/wmfrog,added,drac,2008-04-28 15:41:44
app-backup/dirvish,added,ramereth,2008-04-28 21:03:40
sys-devel/hardened-gcc,added,pappy,2008-04-29 00:42:14
dev-perl/File-chmod,added,tove,2008-04-29 14:24:40
dev-perl/Test-Script,added,tove,2008-04-29 14:32:21
net-libs/serf,added,hollow,2008-04-30 19:12:06
dev-libs/libbrahe,added,dev-zero,2008-05-01 00:30:01
dev-python/decorator,added,pythonhead,2008-05-02 04:47:32
app-i18n/scim-wijesekera,added,matsuu,2008-05-02 15:41:33
dev-scheme/sigscheme,added,hkbst,2008-05-02 16:59:21
java-virtuals/saaj-api,added,betelgeuse,2008-05-03 16:51:30
sci-visualization/extrema,added,grozin,2008-05-03 18:08:28
x11-wm/stumpwm,added,jmglov,2008-05-04 01:32:30
java-virtuals/sun-jdk,added,betelgeuse,2008-05-04 12:25:45

Done.

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-05-11 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-05-11 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
java-virtuals/sun-jdk   2008-05-05 00:35:28 betelgeuse
x11-misc/grpn   2008-05-10 00:12:32 drac
xfce-extra/squeeze  2008-05-10 02:38:32 drac
x11-drivers/xf86-video-amd  2008-05-10 19:34:15 leio
x11-misc/perlpanel  2008-05-11 09:33:55 tove
app-admin/skey  2008-05-11 13:33:20 ulm
app-admin/otpcalc   2008-05-11 13:33:46 ulm
xfce-extra/xarchiver2008-05-11 14:11:12 drac
gnome-extra/zim 2008-05-11 14:25:49 drac
xfce-extra/xfmedia  2008-05-11 15:01:52 drac
x11-libs/motif-config   2008-05-11 16:19:55 ulm

Additions:
java-virtuals/jdk-with-com-sun  2008-05-05 00:34:30 betelgeuse
sys-apps/microcode-data 2008-05-05 04:04:15 vapier
dev-python/ssl-py26 2008-05-05 17:19:35 chtekk
media-fonts/fgdc-emergency  2008-05-08 03:21:18 dirtyepic
media-sound/lingot  2008-05-08 11:10:51 drac
games-action/openastromenace2008-05-08 14:15:03 nyhm
x11-drivers/xf86-video-geode2008-05-09 19:28:25 leio
sci-calculators/grpn2008-05-10 00:11:32 drac
app-arch/squeeze2008-05-10 02:36:46 drac
sys-apps/moreutils  2008-05-10 05:39:50 gregkh
x11-libs/tslib  2008-05-11 05:58:26 solar
sys-auth/skey   2008-05-11 12:36:09 ulm
sys-auth/otpcalc2008-05-11 12:37:37 ulm
app-arch/xarchiver  2008-05-11 14:07:16 drac
x11-misc/zim2008-05-11 14:24:35 drac
media-video/xfmedia 2008-05-11 15:00:17 drac

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Removed Packages:
java-virtuals/sun-jdk,removed,betelgeuse,2008-05-05 00:35:28
x11-misc/grpn,removed,drac,2008-05-10 00:12:32
xfce-extra/squeeze,removed,drac,2008-05-10 02:38:32
x11-drivers/xf86-video-amd,removed,leio,2008-05-10 19:34:15
x11-misc/perlpanel,removed,tove,2008-05-11 09:33:55
app-admin/skey,removed,ulm,2008-05-11 13:33:20
app-admin/otpcalc,removed,ulm,2008-05-11 13:33:46
xfce-extra/xarchiver,removed,drac,2008-05-11 14:11:12
gnome-extra/zim,removed,drac,2008-05-11 14:25:49
xfce-extra/xfmedia,removed,drac,2008-05-11 15:01:52
x11-libs/motif-config,removed,ulm,2008-05-11 16:19:55
Added Packages:
java-virtuals/jdk-with-com-sun,added,betelgeuse,2008-05-05 00:34:30
sys-apps/microcode-data,added,vapier,2008-05-05 04:04:15
dev-python/ssl-py26,added,chtekk,2008-05-05 17:19:35
media-fonts/fgdc-emergency,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-08 03:21:18
media-sound/lingot,added,drac,2008-05-08 11:10:51
games-action/openastromenace,added,nyhm,2008-05-08 14:15:03
x11-drivers/xf86-video-geode,added,leio,2008-05-09 19:28:25
sci-calculators/grpn,added,drac,2008-05-10 00:11:32
app-arch/squeeze,added,drac,2008-05-10 02:36:46
sys-apps/moreutils,added,gregkh,2008-05-10 05:39:50
x11-libs/tslib,added,solar,2008-05-11 05:58:26
sys-auth/skey,added,ulm,2008-05-11 12:36:09
sys-auth/otpcalc,added,ulm,2008-05-11 12:37:37
app-arch/xarchiver,added,drac,2008-05-11 14:07:16
x11-misc/zim,added,drac,2008-05-11 14:24:35
media-video/xfmedia,added,drac,2008-05-11 15:00:17

Done.

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-05-18 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-05-18 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
profiles/selinux/alpha  2008-05-13 01:54:13 pebenito
profiles/selinux/sparc  2008-05-13 01:54:20 pebenito
media-video/freej   2008-05-13 05:45:25 drac
app-doc/kchmviewer  2008-05-13 12:25:44 pva
app-doc/chmlib  2008-05-13 12:32:44 pva
dev-libs/libsigcx   2008-05-14 11:43:18 uid2153
net-proxy/junkbuster2008-05-14 21:35:26 mrness
net-dialup/gprs-easy-connect2008-05-14 21:38:05 mrness
net-misc/lsh2008-05-14 22:37:12 flameeyes
net-misc/zsync  2008-05-15 10:20:11 drac
app-emulation/basiliskII2008-05-15 10:52:39 drac
app-shells/ash  2008-05-15 11:06:18 drac
dev-libs/libvc  2008-05-15 11:18:40 drac
app-misc/rolo   2008-05-15 11:19:28 drac
mail-client/mutt-vc-query   2008-05-15 11:20:07 drac
net-wireless/rt2x00 2008-05-15 11:33:32 drac
www-servers/yaws2008-05-15 13:01:08 drac
app-emulation/x86-chroot2008-05-15 14:31:11 drac
net-ftp/nvemftp 2008-05-15 14:39:31 drac
mail-filter/dovecot-dspam   2008-05-15 14:42:20 drac
app-mobilephone/bemused 2008-05-15 14:44:39 drac
media-plugins/audacious-plugins-ugly2008-05-15 14:53:13 drac
sys-fs/python-fuse  2008-05-15 14:55:45 drac
dev-libs/swl2008-05-15 15:02:23 drac
app-admin/hpasm 2008-05-15 15:09:22 drac
app-admin/modlogan  2008-05-15 15:09:23 drac
sys-fs/amiga-fdisk  2008-05-15 15:30:49 drac
dev-libs/libol  2008-05-15 15:36:55 drac
media-video/konverter   2008-05-15 15:58:42 drac
kde-base/qtsharp2008-05-15 16:03:45 drac
kde-base/xparts 2008-05-15 16:03:46 drac
app-cdr/konqburn2008-05-15 16:07:59 drac
app-i18n/scim-cvs   2008-05-15 16:23:18 drac
app-laptop/omnibook-svn 2008-05-15 16:50:52 nelchael
media-fonts/artwiz-fonts2008-05-16 02:40:04 dirtyepic
dev-db/monetdb  2008-05-17 07:43:36 drac
x11-plugins/desklet-hypertail   2008-05-17 08:03:44 drac
media-plugins/digikamimageplugins   2008-05-17 15:54:32 carlo
profiles/gxs2008-05-17 19:35:15 halcy0n
sys-libs/gxslibc2008-05-17 19:36:36 halcy0n
media-video/dxr3player  2008-05-18 15:13:49 drac

Additions:
app-text/calibre2008-05-12 11:17:11 flameeyes
dev-libs/chmlib 2008-05-13 07:41:34 pva
app-text/kchmviewer 2008-05-13 10:17:40 pva
app-crypt/kstart2008-05-13 12:35:37 mueli
dev-util/confix-wrapper 2008-05-13 14:40:06 haubi
dev-util/confix 2008-05-13 14:44:10 haubi
media-libs/libmp3splt   2008-05-13 19:47:12 drac
media-sound/mp3splt-gtk 2008-05-13 20:07:14 drac
app-dicts/sword-alb 2008-05-13 21:23:47 beandog
app-dicts/sword-aleppo  2008-05-13 21:24:10 beandog
app-dicts/sword-byz 2008-05-13 21:24:33 beandog
app-dicts/sword-cro 2008-05-13 21:24:56 beandog
app-dicts/sword-dutsvv  2008-05-13 21:25:19 beandog
app-dicts/sword-est 2008-05-13 21:25:42 beandog
app-dicts/sword-farsiopv2008-05-13 21:26:05 beandog
app-dicts/sword-finbiblia   2008-05-13 21:26:28 beandog
app-dicts/sword-finpr   2008-05-13 21:26:51 beandog
app-dicts/sword-frecrl  2008-05-13 21:27:14 beandog
app-dicts/sword-hebmodern   2008-05-13 21:27:37 beandog
app-dicts/sword-hunkar  2008-05-13 21:28:00 beandog
app-dicts/sword-hunuj   2008-05-13 21:28:23 beandog
app-dicts/sword-icelandic   2008-05-13 21:28:46 beandog
app-dicts/sword-itadio  2008-05-13 21:29:09 beandog
app-dicts/sword-kekchi  2008-05-13 21:29:32 beandog
app-dicts/sword-korean  2008-05-13 21:29:55 beandog
app-dicts/sword-latvian 2008-05-13 21:30:18 beandog
app-dicts/sword-manxgaelic  2008-05-13 21:30:46 beandog
app-dicts/sword-maori   2008-05-13 21:31:09

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About herds and their non-existant use

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:18:16AM +0200, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
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> Tiziano ??? wrote:
> | Marius Mauch wrote:
> |>> - only have one location where members of a given team are listed,
> |>> currently it's possible and quite likely that herds.xml and the mail
> |>> alias files get out of sync
> | Well, we need one location where the name of the team is mapped to the
> | actual mail-alias. But I don't get what you're trying to say...
>
> While we're changing things around, perhaps we can then also standardize 
> the mail alias to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The sole reason that isn't possible is that some teams would have names
that conflict with system accounts. While it's possible to override
those in the Gentoo mail server setup, the system account versions DO
receive a _LOT_ of spam because they are so common (eg mysql@, ldap@).

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-05-25 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-05-25 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
media-fonts/ttf-sil-charis  2008-05-19 00:55:31 dirtyepic
media-fonts/ttf-sil-arabicfonts 2008-05-19 02:28:05 dirtyepic
media-fonts/ttf-sil-ezra2008-05-19 03:09:09 dirtyepic
media-fonts/ttf-gentium 2008-05-19 04:50:40 dirtyepic
x11-misc/xchm   2008-05-19 13:22:17 pva
media-fonts/ttf-sil-abyssinica  2008-05-19 18:53:09 dirtyepic
media-fonts/ttf-sil-doulos  2008-05-19 19:39:26 dirtyepic
media-fonts/ttf-sil-padauk  2008-05-19 20:07:59 dirtyepic
media-fonts/ttf-sil-galatia 2008-05-19 20:59:17 dirtyepic
xfce-extra/xfmpc2008-05-21 11:21:30 drac

Additions:
media-fonts/sil-charis  2008-05-19 00:50:41 dirtyepic
media-fonts/sil-arabicfonts 2008-05-19 02:24:37 dirtyepic
media-fonts/sil-ezra2008-05-19 03:06:32 dirtyepic
media-fonts/sil-gentium 2008-05-19 04:46:05 dirtyepic
app-text/ssddiff2008-05-19 10:22:30 flameeyes
app-text/libxmlpatch2008-05-19 10:26:03 flameeyes
app-text/xchm   2008-05-19 13:14:26 pva
dev-cpp/gtksourceviewmm 2008-05-19 14:25:15 remi
media-fonts/sil-abyssinica  2008-05-19 18:46:05 dirtyepic
media-fonts/sil-doulos  2008-05-19 19:22:05 dirtyepic
media-fonts/sil-padauk  2008-05-19 20:05:29 dirtyepic
media-fonts/sil-galatia 2008-05-19 20:56:53 dirtyepic
media-fonts/mgopen  2008-05-19 23:18:40 dirtyepic
app-vim/exheres-syntax  2008-05-20 00:08:07 coldwind
dev-libs/libmirage  2008-05-20 02:09:35 vanquirius
sys-fs/vhba 2008-05-20 02:18:52 vanquirius
app-cdr/cdemud  2008-05-20 02:24:03 vanquirius
app-cdr/gcdemu  2008-05-20 02:30:06 vanquirius
dev-ada/qtada   2008-05-20 09:32:07 george
media-libs/libprojectm-qt   2008-05-20 14:27:13 drac
media-sound/jack-smf-utils  2008-05-20 20:53:04 aballier
media-sound/xfmpc   2008-05-21 11:15:38 drac
sci-visualization/gle   2008-05-21 21:13:42 grozin
sys-cluster/wulfware2008-05-22 14:40:51 drac
x11-misc/gbdfed 2008-05-23 03:07:50 dirtyepic
dev-libs/xqilla 2008-05-23 06:09:55 dev-zero
www-client/jd   2008-05-23 15:51:46 matsuu
sci-biology/gmap2008-05-23 16:20:53 weaver
sci-biology/blat2008-05-23 17:28:35 weaver
sci-biology/mummer  2008-05-24 04:10:30 weaver
sys-block/afacli2008-05-24 10:41:57 wschlich
x11-misc/fracplanet 2008-05-24 12:48:20 drac
sys-fs/btrfs2008-05-24 19:49:32 lavajoe
sys-fs/btrfs-progs  2008-05-24 19:50:05 lavajoe
media-fonts/khmer   2008-05-25 02:55:16 dirtyepic
media-fonts/wqy-zenhei  2008-05-25 03:17:48 dirtyepic
games-rpg/rain-slick2008-05-25 03:42:54 vapier
media-sound/projectm-jack   2008-05-25 08:31:17 aballier
media-sound/quasar  2008-05-25 13:24:47 loki_val
x11-libs/qt-demo2008-05-25 14:22:26 ingmar
dev-python/python-fastcgi   2008-05-25 16:32:09 chtekk

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Gentoo Linux Developer
E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Removed Packages:
media-fonts/ttf-sil-charis,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 00:55:31
media-fonts/ttf-sil-arabicfonts,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 02:28:05
media-fonts/ttf-sil-ezra,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 03:09:09
media-fonts/ttf-gentium,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 04:50:40
x11-misc/xchm,removed,pva,2008-05-19 13:22:17
media-fonts/ttf-sil-abyssinica,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 18:53:09
media-fonts/ttf-sil-doulos,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 19:39:26
media-fonts/ttf-sil-padauk,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 20:07:59
media-fonts/ttf-sil-galatia,removed,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 20:59:17
xfce-extra/xfmpc,removed,drac,2008-05-21 11:21:30
Added Packages:
media-fonts/sil-charis,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 00:50:41
media-fonts/sil-arabicfonts,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 02:24:37
media-fonts/sil-ezra,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 03:06:32
media-fonts/sil-gentium,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 04:46:05
app-text/ssddiff,added,flameeyes,2008-05-19 10:22:30
app-text/libxmlpatch,added,flameeyes,2008-05-19 10:26:03
app-text/xchm,added,pva,2008-05-19 13:14:26
dev-cpp/gtksourceviewmm,added,remi,2008-05-19 14:25:15
media-fonts/sil-abyssinica,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 18:46:05
media-fonts/sil-doulos,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 19:22:05
media-fonts/sil-padauk,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 20:05:29
media-fonts/sil-galatia,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 20:56:53
media-fonts/mgopen,added,dirtyepic,2008-05-19 23:18:40
app-vim/exheres-

[gentoo-dev] VCS repository overview for Gentoo

[Robin H. Johnson]

This is more of a reminder email than anything else, in my capacity as
the VCS administrator for Gentoo.

Recently, some folk have wondered if we can come up with a better name
than 'overlays', as a lot of the newer repositories aren't actually
overlays of the tree, but rather independent development for Gentoo.

CVS.gentoo.org:
No new repositories on offer.
Access for developers only.
May contain private repositories.
Public read-only: http://anoncvs.gentoo.org/
Browser: http://sources.gentoo.org/

SVN.gentoo.org:
New repositories available on demand (request on bug #95277)
Access for developers only.
May contain private repositories.
Public read-only: http://anonsvn.gentoo.org/
Browser: http://sources.gentoo.org/

GIT.gentoo.org:
New repositories available on demand (request on bug #196025)
Access for developers only.
May contain private repositories.
Public read-only: http://anongit.gentoo.org/
Browser: http://sources.gentoo.org/gitweb/

GIT.overlays.gentoo.org:
New repositories available on demand (see webpage)
External and developer access.
All repositories public.
URL: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/
Browser: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/

SVN.overlays.gentoo.org:
(formerly known just as overlays.gentoo.org)
New repositories on hold, pending migration to new hardware.
External and developer access.
All repositories public.
URL: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/
Browser: http://overlays.gentoo.org/

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-06-01 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-06-01 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
media-sound/gtkguitune  2008-05-27 12:52:48 drac
media-sound/playspc_gtk 2008-05-27 12:52:49 drac
media-sound/yconsole2008-05-27 12:52:49 drac
media-gfx/iv2008-05-27 12:53:32 drac
media-video/gqcam   2008-05-27 12:54:22 drac
sys-apps/systrace   2008-05-27 12:55:13 drac
net-fs/coda-kernel  2008-05-27 12:56:00 drac
app-arch/debhelper  2008-05-29 15:37:02 yvasilev
dev-lang/ezm3   2008-05-31 04:40:00 vapier
dev-util/cvsup  2008-05-31 04:40:21 vapier
media-fonts/fireflysung 2008-05-31 07:21:57 loki_val
app-portage/portage-manpages2008-05-31 18:05:27 vapier
media-plugins/libao-pulse   2008-05-31 18:16:47 drac
gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs2008-06-01 21:39:54 remi

Additions:
media-fonts/tibetan-machine-font2008-05-26 10:43:24 loki_val
sci-biology/amos2008-05-26 14:47:52 weaver
media-fonts/thaifonts-scalable  2008-05-28 06:07:52 loki_val
app-i18n/unicode-data   2008-05-28 17:16:34 loki_val
media-libs/raul 2008-05-29 08:24:48 aballier
x11-libs/flowcanvas 2008-05-29 08:43:51 aballier
media-sound/patchage2008-05-29 08:46:53 aballier
app-emulation/fuse-utils2008-05-30 01:56:01 darkside
x11-terms/sakura2008-05-30 07:39:36 jmglov
media-fonts/opendesktop-fonts   2008-05-30 08:10:37 loki_val
dev-tex/translator  2008-05-30 13:10:37 aballier
media-fonts/cardo   2008-05-30 20:48:44 swegener
media-sound/qtscrobbler 2008-05-31 01:04:34 yngwin
net-misc/openssh-blacklist  2008-05-31 09:47:51 vapier
www-client/ck4up2008-05-31 19:16:37 bangert
dev-scheme/ikarus   2008-05-31 21:17:57 pchrist
x11-misc/lsw2008-05-31 22:40:25 coldwind
dev-scheme/stalin   2008-06-01 17:37:27 pchrist
x11-terms/evilvte   2008-06-01 19:10:34 drac
dev-perl/Font-TTF   2008-06-01 19:33:42 loki_val
gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs 2008-06-01 20:45:26 remi

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Removed Packages:
media-sound/gtkguitune,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:52:48
media-sound/playspc_gtk,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:52:49
media-sound/yconsole,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:52:49
media-gfx/iv,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:53:32
media-video/gqcam,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:54:22
sys-apps/systrace,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:55:13
net-fs/coda-kernel,removed,drac,2008-05-27 12:56:00
app-arch/debhelper,removed,yvasilev,2008-05-29 15:37:02
dev-lang/ezm3,removed,vapier,2008-05-31 04:40:00
dev-util/cvsup,removed,vapier,2008-05-31 04:40:21
media-fonts/fireflysung,removed,loki_val,2008-05-31 07:21:57
app-portage/portage-manpages,removed,vapier,2008-05-31 18:05:27
media-plugins/libao-pulse,removed,drac,2008-05-31 18:16:47
gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs,removed,remi,2008-06-01 21:39:54
Added Packages:
media-fonts/tibetan-machine-font,added,loki_val,2008-05-26 10:43:24
sci-biology/amos,added,weaver,2008-05-26 14:47:52
media-fonts/thaifonts-scalable,added,loki_val,2008-05-28 06:07:52
app-i18n/unicode-data,added,loki_val,2008-05-28 17:16:34
media-libs/raul,added,aballier,2008-05-29 08:24:48
x11-libs/flowcanvas,added,aballier,2008-05-29 08:43:51
media-sound/patchage,added,aballier,2008-05-29 08:46:53
app-emulation/fuse-utils,added,darkside,2008-05-30 01:56:01
x11-terms/sakura,added,jmglov,2008-05-30 07:39:36
media-fonts/opendesktop-fonts,added,loki_val,2008-05-30 08:10:37
dev-tex/translator,added,aballier,2008-05-30 13:10:37
media-fonts/cardo,added,swegener,2008-05-30 20:48:44
media-sound/qtscrobbler,added,yngwin,2008-05-31 01:04:34
net-misc/openssh-blacklist,added,vapier,2008-05-31 09:47:51
www-client/ck4up,added,bangert,2008-05-31 19:16:37
dev-scheme/ikarus,added,pchrist,2008-05-31 21:17:57
x11-misc/lsw,added,coldwind,2008-05-31 22:40:25
dev-scheme/stalin,added,pchrist,2008-06-01 17:37:27
x11-terms/evilvte,added,drac,2008-06-01 19:10:34
dev-perl/Font-TTF,added,loki_val,2008-06-01 19:33:42
gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs,added,remi,2008-06-01 20:45:26

Done.

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-06-08 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-06-08 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
dev-util/larch  2008-06-03 02:23:20 mr_bones_
app-text/docbook-to-man 2008-06-04 16:15:57 loki_val
games-fps/americas-army 2008-06-05 20:02:36 wolf31o2
gnome-base/control-center   2008-06-06 15:15:16 remi
gnome-extra/shermans-aquarium   2008-06-08 18:03:21 eva
net-libs/webkitgtk  2008-06-08 19:29:40 jokey

Additions:
games-util/wiiload  2008-06-02 08:29:20 vapier
app-text/docbook-to-man 2008-06-02 21:09:29 loki_val
dev-scheme/sisc 2008-06-02 21:28:25 pchrist
app-editors/juffed  2008-06-04 12:05:23 yngwin
www-client/arora2008-06-04 13:36:01 yngwin
sci-mathematics/dataplot2008-06-04 16:31:40 bicatali
media-gfx/dpic  2008-06-04 20:08:55 aballier
dev-tex/dot2texi2008-06-04 21:42:55 aballier
app-portage/gpytage 2008-06-05 02:55:18 ken69267
media-fonts/pothana2k   2008-06-05 11:13:24 loki_val
gnome-base/gnome-control-center 2008-06-05 11:21:09 remi
media-fonts/ekushey-bangla-fonts2008-06-05 14:00:42 loki_val
x11-misc/google-gadgets 2008-06-06 16:51:12 loki_val
sci-physics/clhep   2008-06-06 19:17:37 bicatali
media-gfx/dawn  2008-06-06 19:26:12 bicatali
app-cdr/burn-cd 2008-06-06 21:38:03 drac
app-cdr/iat 2008-06-06 21:48:29 drac
app-cdr/binflash2008-06-06 22:26:15 drac
dev-python/jinja2008-06-07 08:29:52 dev-zero
dev-python/sphinx   2008-06-07 08:46:31 dev-zero
app-cdr/cdcover 2008-06-07 09:23:27 drac
profiles/default/linux/hppa 2008-06-07 15:22:59 jer
gnome-extra/file-browser-applet 2008-06-08 17:31:02 serkan
net-libs/webkitgtk  2008-06-08 18:19:41 jokey
www-client/midori   2008-06-08 18:20:13 jokey
media-sound/christine   2008-06-08 18:45:59 drac
net-libs/webkit-gtk 2008-06-08 19:28:44 jokey
media-video/qdvdauthor-templates2008-06-08 23:09:02 sbriesen

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Removed Packages:
dev-util/larch,removed,mr_bones_,2008-06-03 02:23:20
app-text/docbook-to-man,removed,loki_val,2008-06-04 16:15:57
games-fps/americas-army,removed,wolf31o2,2008-06-05 20:02:36
gnome-base/control-center,removed,remi,2008-06-06 15:15:16
gnome-extra/shermans-aquarium,removed,eva,2008-06-08 18:03:21
net-libs/webkitgtk,removed,jokey,2008-06-08 19:29:40
Added Packages:
games-util/wiiload,added,vapier,2008-06-02 08:29:20
app-text/docbook-to-man,added,loki_val,2008-06-02 21:09:29
dev-scheme/sisc,added,pchrist,2008-06-02 21:28:25
app-editors/juffed,added,yngwin,2008-06-04 12:05:23
www-client/arora,added,yngwin,2008-06-04 13:36:01
sci-mathematics/dataplot,added,bicatali,2008-06-04 16:31:40
media-gfx/dpic,added,aballier,2008-06-04 20:08:55
dev-tex/dot2texi,added,aballier,2008-06-04 21:42:55
app-portage/gpytage,added,ken69267,2008-06-05 02:55:18
media-fonts/pothana2k,added,loki_val,2008-06-05 11:13:24
gnome-base/gnome-control-center,added,remi,2008-06-05 11:21:09
media-fonts/ekushey-bangla-fonts,added,loki_val,2008-06-05 14:00:42
x11-misc/google-gadgets,added,loki_val,2008-06-06 16:51:12
sci-physics/clhep,added,bicatali,2008-06-06 19:17:37
media-gfx/dawn,added,bicatali,2008-06-06 19:26:12
app-cdr/burn-cd,added,drac,2008-06-06 21:38:03
app-cdr/iat,added,drac,2008-06-06 21:48:29
app-cdr/binflash,added,drac,2008-06-06 22:26:15
dev-python/jinja,added,dev-zero,2008-06-07 08:29:52
dev-python/sphinx,added,dev-zero,2008-06-07 08:46:31
app-cdr/cdcover,added,drac,2008-06-07 09:23:27
profiles/default/linux/hppa,added,jer,2008-06-07 15:22:59
gnome-extra/file-browser-applet,added,serkan,2008-06-08 17:31:02
net-libs/webkitgtk,added,jokey,2008-06-08 18:19:41
www-client/midori,added,jokey,2008-06-08 18:20:13
media-sound/christine,added,drac,2008-06-08 18:45:59
net-libs/webkit-gtk,added,jokey,2008-06-08 19:28:44
media-video/qdvdauthor-templates,added,sbriesen,2008-06-08 23:09:02

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.8 / gcc-4.3 build failures

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:19:21PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > I love aliasing :)
> Any pybugz lovers, this patch will allow use of aliases.
For anybody that wants nicer bugzilla URLS, you can use these:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/${NUMERIC}
http://bugs.gentoo.org/alias/${NUMERIC}
http://bugs.gentoo.org/alias/${ALIAS}


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Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do for better support?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 05:20:47PM +0900, Takashi Yoshii wrote:
> I want sh to be supported more, and to be released officially in future.
> Currently, it doesn't have stable profile, and no 2008.0 release
> (not even as an experimental), though.
Seeing your employer's domain, can you offer pointers to
reasonably-priced and useful SH boards/systems?

The ARM world has recently seen the TinCan 'Nail' board, which is pretty
damn good (both solar and I have one). Embedded PPC has the Efika.
Embedded MIPS I'm less certain of, I know I have a MyCable XXS1500
(Au1500 core), but I don't know beyond that.

There's a really low-memory SH box available for developer access:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/dev-machines.xml
However, I don't really know if it's sufficient for building releases or
doing more testing (I suspect not).

> I wonder what should I do. After reading docs, I've found most of all
> I (as a non-gentoo-developer) can do is testing and sending bug to
> Bugzilla or so.
Pretty much all of your suggestions are good, plus seeing about more
hardware maybe.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-06-15 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-06-15 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
x11-plugins/gai-pager   2008-06-09 16:36:41 drac
x11-plugins/gai-pal 2008-06-09 16:36:42 drac
x11-libs/gai2008-06-09 16:37:19 drac
sys-process/daemontools-scripts 2008-06-09 16:43:15 drac
dev-util/rhide  2008-06-14 14:50:42 drac
sys-cluster/wulfstat2008-06-14 14:52:13 drac
sys-cluster/xmlsysd 2008-06-14 14:52:14 drac
net-dialup/linesrv  2008-06-15 14:31:40 mrness
net-dialup/mclient  2008-06-15 14:31:41 mrness
net-dialup/mserver  2008-06-15 14:31:42 mrness
net-dialup/xlc  2008-06-15 14:31:43 mrness

Additions:
x11-libs/libpciaccess   2008-06-10 07:03:32 dberkholz
x11-proto/dri2proto 2008-06-10 07:16:06 dberkholz
net-libs/udns   2008-06-10 21:34:09 nelchael
sys-apps/fakechroot 2008-06-10 22:42:10 spock
games-simulation/micropolis 2008-06-11 15:11:49 hanno
app-cdr/uif2iso 2008-06-12 12:34:30 flameeyes
app-doc/pms 2008-06-13 01:02:43 ingmar
media-video/subtitlecomposer2008-06-14 00:28:42 yngwin
media-sound/xineadump   2008-06-14 02:35:05 yngwin
net-im/kouchat  2008-06-14 09:03:53 serkan
net-mail/signature  2008-06-15 12:38:27 dertobi123

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Removed Packages:
x11-plugins/gai-pager,removed,drac,2008-06-09 16:36:41
x11-plugins/gai-pal,removed,drac,2008-06-09 16:36:42
x11-libs/gai,removed,drac,2008-06-09 16:37:19
sys-process/daemontools-scripts,removed,drac,2008-06-09 16:43:15
dev-util/rhide,removed,drac,2008-06-14 14:50:42
sys-cluster/wulfstat,removed,drac,2008-06-14 14:52:13
sys-cluster/xmlsysd,removed,drac,2008-06-14 14:52:14
net-dialup/linesrv,removed,mrness,2008-06-15 14:31:40
net-dialup/mclient,removed,mrness,2008-06-15 14:31:41
net-dialup/mserver,removed,mrness,2008-06-15 14:31:42
net-dialup/xlc,removed,mrness,2008-06-15 14:31:43
Added Packages:
x11-libs/libpciaccess,added,dberkholz,2008-06-10 07:03:32
x11-proto/dri2proto,added,dberkholz,2008-06-10 07:16:06
net-libs/udns,added,nelchael,2008-06-10 21:34:09
sys-apps/fakechroot,added,spock,2008-06-10 22:42:10
games-simulation/micropolis,added,hanno,2008-06-11 15:11:49
app-cdr/uif2iso,added,flameeyes,2008-06-12 12:34:30
app-doc/pms,added,ingmar,2008-06-13 01:02:43
media-video/subtitlecomposer,added,yngwin,2008-06-14 00:28:42
media-sound/xineadump,added,yngwin,2008-06-14 02:35:05
net-im/kouchat,added,serkan,2008-06-14 09:03:53
net-mail/signature,added,dertobi123,2008-06-15 12:38:27

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 Nominations end TODAY 23:59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:50:01AM +0200, ??ukasz Damentko wrote:
>   Robin H. Johnsonrobbat2 
Nope, I won't be running this time around.

I've got a lot more done in the past year that I wasn't a council member
than the preceding year when I was.

I think tsunam and kingtaco are the same, but I'll wait for them to make
those statements themselves.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:56:51AM +0200, Albert Zeyer wrote:
> > Thus whenever you change anything in arch profile, or in base or
> > features subdirectory use relevant ChangeLog. For other changes like
> > local USE flags documentation, masking/unmasking/updating masks (not
> > comments :)) use /usr/portage/profiles/ChangeLog.
> Perhaps install a script which automatically takes the CVS comment when
> some of these files is changed and adds this comment automatically to
> the ChangeLog?
echangelog works perfectly AFAIK.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Gentoo Bugzilla going live on CACert certificates

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 04:00:18PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> In a couple of minutes, bugs.gentoo.org should flip over to using
> CACert-issued SSL certificates. The actual key is the same as before,
> just a certificate and new CA chain in place.
For anybody with issues with their browser not using root certificates
from /etc/ssl/, you can manually add the CACert root certificates.

Actual certs: http://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=3
Browser HOWTO: http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/BrowserClients

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-06-22 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-06-22 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
app-pda/syncekonnector  2008-06-19 01:22:03 darkside
dev-util/lincvs 2008-06-19 12:47:53 mpagano
x11-wm/aquamarine   2008-06-21 03:41:25 mr_bones_
x11-wm/heliodor 2008-06-21 03:41:26 mr_bones_
kde-base/ksync  2008-06-22 18:11:28 keytoaster
xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme 2008-06-22 20:15:55 drac
xfce-extra/ristretto2008-06-22 20:51:36 drac
xfce-extra/terminal 2008-06-22 21:26:29 drac
xfce-extra/xfburn   2008-06-22 22:01:10 drac
xfce-extra/mousepad 2008-06-22 22:15:03 drac
xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes 2008-06-22 22:33:10 drac
xfce-base/xfprint   2008-06-22 22:54:33 drac
xfce-base/orage 2008-06-22 23:21:34 drac

Additions:
dev-db/pg_top   2008-06-16 10:51:27 cedk
dev-ruby/eventmachine   2008-06-16 19:25:52 robbat2
dev-ruby/rack   2008-06-16 19:29:39 robbat2
www-servers/thin2008-06-16 19:32:57 robbat2
x11-misc/gdevilspie 2008-06-16 21:19:26 drac
kde-misc/kio_perldoc2008-06-16 23:58:34 ingmar
sys-apps/man-pages-posix2008-06-17 12:02:11 vapier
app-cdr/cddetect2008-06-17 13:45:09 drac
dev-libs/libev  2008-06-17 23:44:29 matsuu
media-libs/opencv   2008-06-18 05:24:34 jmglov
dev-python/PyQrcodec2008-06-18 06:28:34 jmglov
media-plugins/vdr-streamdev 2008-06-18 16:36:36 zzam
dev-util/smem   2008-06-18 17:07:55 flameeyes
net-misc/openrdate  2008-06-18 21:55:25 robbat2
app-doc/linuxfromscratch2008-06-19 04:45:34 dirtyepic
app-emacs/edit-list 2008-06-19 12:12:08 ulm
app-emacs/dropdown-list 2008-06-19 12:13:25 ulm
app-emacs/yasnippet 2008-06-19 12:14:11 ulm
app-crypt/openvpn-blacklist 2008-06-19 15:26:37 hanno
sci-biology/kalign  2008-06-20 20:13:05 weaver
x11-themes/echo-icon-theme  2008-06-20 21:35:46 cardoe
net-misc/ntpclient  2008-06-22 06:36:02 solar
media-gfx/ristretto 2008-06-22 20:49:18 drac
x11-terms/terminal  2008-06-22 21:27:24 drac
app-cdr/xfburn  2008-06-22 21:55:36 drac
x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme 2008-06-22 22:22:38 drac
x11-themes/xfwm4-themes 2008-06-22 22:32:34 drac
net-print/xfprint   2008-06-22 22:55:02 drac
app-office/orage2008-06-22 23:21:36 drac
app-editors/mousepad2008-06-22 23:43:07 drac
dev-util/xfce4-dev-tools2008-06-22 23:56:03 drac

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Removed Packages:
app-pda/syncekonnector,removed,darkside,2008-06-19 01:22:03
dev-util/lincvs,removed,mpagano,2008-06-19 12:47:53
x11-wm/aquamarine,removed,mr_bones_,2008-06-21 03:41:25
x11-wm/heliodor,removed,mr_bones_,2008-06-21 03:41:26
kde-base/ksync,removed,keytoaster,2008-06-22 18:11:28
xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme,removed,drac,2008-06-22 20:15:55
xfce-extra/ristretto,removed,drac,2008-06-22 20:51:36
xfce-extra/terminal,removed,drac,2008-06-22 21:26:29
xfce-extra/xfburn,removed,drac,2008-06-22 22:01:10
xfce-extra/mousepad,removed,drac,2008-06-22 22:15:03
xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes,removed,drac,2008-06-22 22:33:10
xfce-base/xfprint,removed,drac,2008-06-22 22:54:33
xfce-base/orage,removed,drac,2008-06-22 23:21:34
Added Packages:
dev-db/pg_top,added,cedk,2008-06-16 10:51:27
dev-ruby/eventmachine,added,robbat2,2008-06-16 19:25:52
dev-ruby/rack,added,robbat2,2008-06-16 19:29:39
www-servers/thin,added,robbat2,2008-06-16 19:32:57
x11-misc/gdevilspie,added,drac,2008-06-16 21:19:26
kde-misc/kio_perldoc,added,ingmar,2008-06-16 23:58:34
sys-apps/man-pages-posix,added,vapier,2008-06-17 12:02:11
app-cdr/cddetect,added,drac,2008-06-17 13:45:09
dev-libs/libev,added,matsuu,2008-06-17 23:44:29
media-libs/opencv,added,jmglov,2008-06-18 05:24:34
dev-python/PyQrcodec,added,jmglov,2008-06-18 06:28:34
media-plugins/vdr-streamdev,added,zzam,2008-06-18 16:36:36
dev-util/smem,added,flameeyes,2008-06-18 17:07:55
net-misc/openrdate,added,robbat2,2008-06-18 21:55:25
app-doc/linuxfromscratch,added,dirtyepic,2008-06-19 04:45:34
app-emacs/edit-list,added,ulm,2008-06-19 12:12:08
app-emacs/dropdown-list,added,ulm,2008-06-19 12:13:25
app-emacs/yasnippet,added,ulm,2008-06-19 12:14:11
app-crypt/openvpn-blacklist,added,hanno,2008-06-19 15:26:37
sci-biology/kalign,added,weaver,2008-06-20 20:13:05
x11-themes/echo-icon-theme,added,cardoe,2008-06-20 21:35:46
net-misc/ntpclient,added,solar,2008-06-22 06:36:02
media-gfx/ristretto,added,drac,2008-06-22 20:49:18
x11-terms/t

[gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev fortune submissions

[Robin H. Johnson]

Have some good Gentoo laughs?

This is a reminder that I collect input for the Gentoo-dev fortunes
database. If you have some to submit, please email them to me,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], with some combination of 'fortune' and 'gentoo-dev'
in the subject line. Should be formatted per the existing entries, and
it may help to include to clarification as to where and when the quote
came from as an attribution.

While the fortune db is called 'gentoo-dev', I will take quotes from any
Gentoo IRC channel.

I'd like to spin a new release later this afternoon since I've got a
dozen pending submissions, so bring it on folks.

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[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-06-29 23h59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-06-29 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
xfce-extra/notification-daemon-xfce 2008-06-23 02:16:35 drac
xfce-extra/xfkc 2008-06-23 03:44:30 drac
xfce-extra/xfce4-dev-tools  2008-06-23 12:37:44 drac
media-video/cinelerra-cvs   2008-06-24 12:24:44 hanno

Additions:
x11-misc/notification-daemon-xfce   2008-06-23 02:00:17 drac
x11-misc/xfkc   2008-06-23 03:43:59 drac
media-video/cinelerra   2008-06-24 12:23:17 hanno
sci-geosciences/viking  2008-06-24 12:46:28 hanno
dev-python/optcomplete  2008-06-25 11:40:55 hawking
sys-process/iotop   2008-06-26 17:19:20 dberkholz
x11-drivers/xf86-video-r128 2008-06-27 05:14:29 dberkholz
media-gfx/pdf2svg   2008-06-27 13:05:44 drac
net-analyzer/snips  2008-06-27 15:25:00 chainsaw
media-sound/alsamixer-app   2008-06-28 05:46:35 drac
x11-plugins/wmmand  2008-06-28 06:10:23 drac
sys-auth/pam_radius 2008-06-28 06:51:40 mrness
x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64   2008-06-28 12:18:57 swegener
dev-libs/dbxml  2008-06-28 19:27:42 dev-zero
dev-libs/poco   2008-06-29 01:20:59 dev-zero
media-sound/milkytracker2008-06-29 11:25:35 drac
app-misc/slashtime  2008-06-29 17:18:15 ken69267

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Removed Packages:
xfce-extra/notification-daemon-xfce,removed,drac,2008-06-23 02:16:35
xfce-extra/xfkc,removed,drac,2008-06-23 03:44:30
xfce-extra/xfce4-dev-tools,removed,drac,2008-06-23 12:37:44
media-video/cinelerra-cvs,removed,hanno,2008-06-24 12:24:44
Added Packages:
x11-misc/notification-daemon-xfce,added,drac,2008-06-23 02:00:17
x11-misc/xfkc,added,drac,2008-06-23 03:43:59
media-video/cinelerra,added,hanno,2008-06-24 12:23:17
sci-geosciences/viking,added,hanno,2008-06-24 12:46:28
dev-python/optcomplete,added,hawking,2008-06-25 11:40:55
sys-process/iotop,added,dberkholz,2008-06-26 17:19:20
x11-drivers/xf86-video-r128,added,dberkholz,2008-06-27 05:14:29
media-gfx/pdf2svg,added,drac,2008-06-27 13:05:44
net-analyzer/snips,added,chainsaw,2008-06-27 15:25:00
media-sound/alsamixer-app,added,drac,2008-06-28 05:46:35
x11-plugins/wmmand,added,drac,2008-06-28 06:10:23
sys-auth/pam_radius,added,mrness,2008-06-28 06:51:40
x11-drivers/xf86-video-mach64,added,swegener,2008-06-28 12:18:57
dev-libs/dbxml,added,dev-zero,2008-06-28 19:27:42
dev-libs/poco,added,dev-zero,2008-06-29 01:20:59
media-sound/milkytracker,added,drac,2008-06-29 11:25:35
app-misc/slashtime,added,ken69267,2008-06-29 17:18:15

Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:04:31PM +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote:
> PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly
> is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to
> assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}.
The same goes for developers doing their own assignment. I missed a few
bugs on dev-utils/git because they got assigned to only ferdy, and I
wasn't on the CC list at all.

I'm going to do a followup email to the past threads on auto-assignment
later this afternoon.

The last content post on it was:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/49601
and I didn't integrate bangert's questions yet.

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[gentoo-dev] [v3] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

[Robin H. Johnson]

So this is now the third revision of this proposal. 

The first two editions are available here.
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48485
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/49601

Comments are welcome, as are offers to implement it.

Implementations should be a small python or perl script that take a
single CP atom an resolve it to an assignee, along with one or more CC
entries. They may assume that an rsync tree exists at $PORTDIR (not
/usr/portage, but $PORTDIR). Additional data files are welcome as well
for special assignment rules.

This is mostly the same as the v2 proposal, with just further changes
from bangert.

Assignment process, triggering:

Auto-assignment will be be applied/available in the following cases:
1. New bugs created with the guided process, having a Product equal to
   'Gentoo Linux' and a component not equal to 'Eclasses and Profiles'.
2. Open bugs will have a new action available: 'Reassign by metadata',
   with a text input field. The text field will be auto-filled with a
   package atom $CAT/$PN by parsing the summary line. Using the action
   will provide the package atom to the next stage.
3. If multiple package atoms are present in a summary line, the first
   one wins.
4. If we have a valid category name, but no valid package atoms (this may be a
   new or misspelt package), try to figure out which team might want it. Use
   the category-level metadata.xml file.
5. A developer may also enter an atom manually on the text input field
   for doing a re-assignment.

Assignment process:


Step 1 - Summary line processing

1. If the summary line contains a package atom for a package that
   exists, use the metadata.xml for that package. Stop after the first
   atom.
2. If the summary line contains a package atom for a package that does
   not exist, but a category that does exist, use the metadata.xml for
   that category.

Step 2 - Metadata.xml contains only a herd
--
1. Take the herd element, and look up the herd in herds.xml to convert
   to an email address. This email address must be a valid bugzilla
   account.
2. This email is treated as an implicit maintainer element after this
   point. "${HERD_EMAIL}"
[See notes]

Step 3 -  element
-
1. Add the maintainer element to an ordered list, in the order they are
   present in the file.
2. If an element appears more than once, the later element overrides the
   earlier element. (This provides a route when the herd is assigned,
   but does not wish to receive email for a specific package).
3. If a maintainer element contains the non-default 'ignoreauto=1' 
   attribute AND a non-empty role element (describing why this maintainer 
   should not be contacted), delete it from the list.

Step 4 - Assignment
---
1. Use the first email in the ordered list as the assignee.
2. Place all remaining emails in the CC list.
3. Include a short comment about the reassignment processing results.

Notes:
--
1. For handling no-herd, we should add an entry into herds.xml to
   catch it ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Every herd listed in an ebuild MUST be in
   herds.xml.
2. Herds that do not wish to be contacted for specific bugs should add an
   maintainer element stating that (and use 'ignoreauto' on the element).
   This case however should be very rare, as the package probably doesn't
   belong in the herd if the herd doesn't care about it.
3. If you want the default assignment to go to a maintainer, and NOT the herd, 
   move the  element further down in the metadata.xml!

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: ChangeLog reversion.patch drscheme-4.0.1.ebuild drscheme-0.372-r1.ebuild

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 04:53:06PM +, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote:
> hkbst   08/06/28 16:53:06
> 
>   Modified: ChangeLog
>   Added:reversion.patch drscheme-4.0.1.ebuild
> drscheme-0.372-r1.ebuild
>   Log:
>   add new major version 4.0.1 and reversion latest ~
>   (Portage version: 2.2_rc1/cvs/Linux 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 x86_64)
...
> 1.1  dev-scheme/drscheme/reversion.patch
> file : 
> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-scheme/drscheme/reversion.patch?rev=1.1&view=markup
> plain: 
> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-scheme/drscheme/reversion.patch?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain
Why was reversion.patch committed directly to dev-scheme/drscheme
instead of files/?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] b.g.o down?

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 08:08:38AM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> I'm getting "Connection refused" when trying to connect to 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org. Is this intentional?
Yeah, read the -dev topic.
I broke it, and I'm working on it.


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[gentoo-dev] Bugzilla muckup

[Robin H. Johnson]

Ok, my bad. I screwed up. I changed something in cfengine, then rushed
off to a family dinner, and caused a couple of hours of bugzilla
badness because I didn't fully review my change.

Approximately:
2008/07/03 02h38 till 05h06.

The following bugs may have duplicate comments, or the various other
fields might not be the correct final versions:
124383
208016
219283
229067
229431
230131
230231
230417
230597
230598
230599
230600
230601
230602
230603
230605
230607

I also lost a single attachment on bug #229431. I can't recover it at
all, it was a binary blob, and it's mucked to hell.

Everything should be back online in about 15 minutes.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:26:13AM +0100, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote:
> Just an idea:
> How about a metadata.xml tag that indicates whether early bump requests are 
> welcome?
> It's more of an individual developer preference, but that seems the right 
> place for it.
If used, what about including and reviving the project that scraped
Freshmeat and other spots looking for new releases automatically?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [2 GLEPs] metadata improvements

[Robin H. Johnson]

On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 04:22:02PM +0200, Tiziano M?ller wrote:
> And this is where the second GLEP comes in:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~dev-zero/glep/glep-xsd.html
Don't remove the DTD DOCTYPE line. Leave it there.
Let simple tools be able to use the DTD to validate the well-formedness,
then upgrade to the XSD to check the actual semantics of the file.

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