Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages needing new maintainers, redux

2008-01-14 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Jan 14, 2008 4:12 AM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Networking, admin tool for some networked printers and JetDirect-style > > adapter > > boxes: > > net-print/npadmin > printing herd, can you take this? Sure, but as long as none of us as such hardware we can only do basic ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: scm eclasses/ebuilds and revision logging

2008-01-14 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
I did now try this for a while and it works quite good, it only has one problem. If the package gets unmerged, for whatever reason, then the file will be unmerged. I know, that it is possible to keep dirs, but is it possible to keep files (without touching them manually outside portage)? Bernd Ry

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2008-01-14 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Santiago M. Mola wrote: But stuff like "aac needs encode" and "cdio conflicts with cdparanoia" should be something separate from USE flag documentation. Well, at least until it's handled at ebuild level, local USE flag documentation can be used to explain the implications to the user beforeh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages needing new maintainers, redux

2008-01-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:03:22AM +0100, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Jan 14, 2008 4:12 AM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Networking, admin tool for some networked printers and JetDirect-style > > > adapter > > > boxes: > > > net-print/npadmin > > printing herd, can you take thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag documentation

2008-01-14 Thread Vlastimil Babka
Ryan Hill wrote: What do people think of this? a) Keep use.desc as it is: a list of common flags and a short general description of their meaning. Good. b) Keep use.local.desc as it is: a list of per-package flags that are specific to one to a few ebuilds (i think 5 is the number though i

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary 20080110

2008-01-14 Thread Markus Ullmann
Hi all, here is the summary from last week's council meeting. The complete log can be found at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ Thanks, Markus Roll call - (here, proxy [by whom] or slacker?) amnehere betelgeuse here dberkholz proxy [musikc] flameeyes here lu_zero

[gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for questions to put on a new user survey. For style of questions, multiple choice (both pick-one and pick-many) or simple integers would be best. However some freeform questions are probably going to end up in there anyway. 'Prefer

[gentoo-dev] Beyond the users, doing a developer census

2008-01-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
While we can't get every single Gentoo user out there to participate in a survey, we should be able to get much better results out of taking a census of the developers (and hopefully some of the ex-developers as well). To that end, beyond the user survey questions thread, I'd like to hear suggesti

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2008-01-14 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Monday 14 of January 2008 02:24:53 Mark Loeser wrote: > Here is a newer revision of the GLEP. I still have multiple methods of > solving this problem (mostly because I want and *need* input from people > as to what they would prefer). Please tell me what you would want to > use so I can come u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Rémi Cardona
Robin H. Johnson a écrit : Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for questions to put on a new user survey. [snip] Your survey summed up pretty well all the questions we came up with this morning. Thanks for putting it all in ink :) Cheers, Rémi -- gentoo-dev@lis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2008-01-14 Thread Stefaan
> - media-libs/libdc1394 > - media-video/coriander I'm picking up these two at least... Stefaan -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Jan 14, 2008 1:33 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for > questions to put on a new user survey. An interesting question would be "Which package manager do you use?". -- Santiago M. Mola Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Monday, 14. January 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for > questions to put on a new user survey. > > For style of questions, multiple choice (both pick-one and pick-many) or > simple integers would be best. However some freeform qu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Richard Freeman
Santiago M. Mola wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 1:33 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for questions to put on a new user survey. An interesting question would be "Which package manager do you use?". Along those lines I'

[gentoo-dev] app-misc/beagle (temporary?) maintainer wanted

2008-01-14 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, I'm the current beagle maintainer but am struggling to find the time needed for the simple maintenance efforts required. Is anyone interested in taking over here? A prospective developer (bheekling) would be interested in maintaining this package in future, but right now he does not have

[gentoo-dev] www-apps/b2evolution maintainer wanted

2008-01-14 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Is anyone interested in taking the b2evolution blog engine webapp off my back? Steve Dibb has been doing almost all of the planet maintenance for the last eon, and I don't really have an easy environment to test new ebuilds etc. Thanks, Daniel -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 04:33 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Release-related questions: > - Should CD media be released at a different rate than stage tarballs? > - Desired release frequency for minimal/livecd/GRP/stages (annual, > bi-annual, quarterly, monthly, weekly?) > - Do you use the instal

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Loeser
Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Tbh, I don't have any issues with the current solution, but I may be missing > something. "Rationale" doesn't seem to help though, afaics it is just saying > that the current behaviour needs to be documented and fwiw PMS draft covers > this already:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag documentation

2008-01-14 Thread Mark Loeser
Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > a) Keep use.desc as it is: a list of common flags and a short general > description of their meaning. Sounds good. > b) Keep use.local.desc as it is: a list of per-package flags that are > specific to one to a few ebuilds (i think 5 is the number though i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:33 Mon 14 Jan , Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for > questions to put on a new user survey. > > For style of questions, multiple choice (both pick-one and pick-many) or > simple integers would be best. However some freeform ques

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey; releng related

2008-01-14 Thread Brent Baude
If the topic of frequent releases is put onto the survey, I would like to know what users anticipate as part of the new releases because new releases are based on the tree itself. It has been a while since I have used a binary distribution, but when I did, I looked forward to new releases beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread likewhoa
Here are some questions I would like answered. Do you use gentoo at home or office? > Home > Office > Both > I don't use gentoo What percentage of your business is running gentoo? > 10% > 25% > 50% > 75% > 100% > none of the above or 0% How often would you like releases? > every six months > eve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 likewhoa wrote: > Here are some questions I would like answered. > > Do you use gentoo at home or office? >> Home >> Office >> Both >> I don't use gentoo > > What percentage of your business is running gentoo? >> 10% >> 25% >> 50% >> 75% >> 100% >> n

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-misc/beagle (temporary?) maintainer wanted

2008-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Daniel Drake kirjoitti: Hi, I'm the current beagle maintainer but am struggling to find the time needed for the simple maintenance efforts required. Is anyone interested in taking over here? A prospective developer (bheekling) would be interested in maintaining this package in future, but r

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even better would be to get rid of sqlite2 but that probably doesn't happen any time soon. R

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 14 January 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Ok, so per the one discussion in #-dev this evening, I'm looking for > questions to put on a new user survey. *cough* -project *cough* -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 22:53 +, likewhoa wrote: > Which DE/WM would you prefer for the gentoo livecd instead of the one > provided? > > Kde > > Xfce > > Fluxbox > > E16 > > Fvwm > > Gnome > > Other Can I suggest that we not ask anything that we likely won't change? I have a strong feeling t

[gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Duncan
likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:38 +: > How often do you update your system & world packages? >> every day >> once a week >> once a month >> every six months >> none of the above Make these time based ones "once or more", so t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread likewhoa
yea I didn't mean to send HTML but i agree on the "once or more" suggestion :) thanks, Fernando On Jan 15, 2008 12:05 AM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:38 +: > > > How often do you u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread likewhoa
On Jan 15, 2008 12:16 AM, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 22:53 +, likewhoa wrote: > > Which DE/WM would you prefer for the gentoo livecd instead of the one > > provided? > > > Kde > > > Xfce > > > Fluxbox > > > E16 > > > Fvwm > > > Gnome > > > Other > > Ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Beyond the users, doing a developer census

2008-01-14 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 04:49 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > - How much time do you spend working on Gentoo? Is that "using", "developing for", or "developing with"? -- Iain Buchanan Bower's Law: Talent goes where the action is. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey; releng related

2008-01-14 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 16:30 -0600, Brent Baude wrote: > If the topic of frequent releases is put onto the survey, I would like > to know what users anticipate as part of the new releases because new > releases are based on the tree itself. It has been a while since I have > used a binary distr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 00:34 +, likewhoa wrote: > > > Do you think commercial packages should be part of the main tree? > > > > Yes > > > > No > > > > Why not > > > > Never! > > > > in unofficial overlay > > > > Dunno > > > > Is this something that we really even want to ask? I mean, if we're a

Re: [gentoo-dev] sqlite/sqlite3 useflag inconsistency

2008-01-14 Thread Alin Năstac
Petteri Räty wrote: Benedikt Morbach kirjoitti: In my humble opinion it would be nice to have a greater degree of control by separating this into two useflags, sqlite2 and sqlite3, just like e.g. qt3 and qt4 Probably. Even better would be to get rid of sqlite2 but that probably doesn't happ

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-misc/beagle (temporary?) maintainer wanted

2008-01-14 Thread Shaochun Wang
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 04:53:49PM +, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > I'm the current beagle maintainer but am struggling to find the time needed > for the simple maintenance efforts required. Is anyone interested in taking I am interested in maintaining this package. -- Shaochun Wang <[EMAI

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/zaptel: ChangeLog zaptel-1.2.22.1-r1.ebuild

2008-01-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:34 Tue 15 Jan , Rajiv Aaron Manglani (rajiv) wrote: > 1.1 net-misc/zaptel/zaptel-1.2.22.1-r1.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/zaptel/zaptel-1.2.22.1-r1.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.p