Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 15:00 -0400, Paka wrote: > * Sven Neumann [08-19-09 14:49]: > > > > Integrating PhotoPrint into GIMP is just a matter of a tiny plug-in that > > can be distributed along-side PhotoPrint. > > > > Is this being perused or in the planning stages? It is certainly not som

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-19 Thread Paka
* Sven Neumann [08-19-09 14:49]: > > Integrating PhotoPrint into GIMP is just a matter of a tiny plug-in that > can be distributed along-side PhotoPrint. > Is this being perused or in the planning stages? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 11:34 -0700, Hal V. Engel wrote: > > I no longer use either the GutenPrint GIMP plug-in or the GTK+ UI in GIMP as > I > exclusively use PhotoPrint now. Having this directly integrated into GIMP > would be a plus for me. Integrating PhotoPrint into GIMP is just a ma

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-19 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 04:44:29 pm Robert Krawitz wrote: > What might be really nice is if PhotoPrint could be used as a print > plugin for GIMP -- it supports everything in Gutenprint except curves, > and the UI is much nicer in many ways than the Gutenprint plugin > (which I've had to maintain

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-19 Thread gg
Robert Krawitz wrote: >Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:26:55 -0500 >From: Erik Lotspeich > >Thank you for the perspective. It seems that the printing part of Gimp >is a second-class citizen that doesn't have the refinement of the rest >of Gimp. > >I have always seen Gimp as a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 01:32 -0500, Erik Lotspeich wrote: > > It is in GTK+, not in GIMP. You are complaining to the wrong people. We > > are just using the portable Print API and expect things to work on all > > platforms. If that is not the case, then someone needs to fix the > > platform-sp

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:26:55 -0500 From: Erik Lotspeich Thank you for the perspective. It seems that the printing part of Gimp is a second-class citizen that doesn't have the refinement of the rest of Gimp. I have always seen Gimp as a Photoshop competitor, so I'm thinking

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:03 -0500, Erik Lotspeich wrote: > Not only > that, but it didn't have the "use original image size" button to > auto-fit the image. Actually the dialog is supposed to come up with the image in the original size (provided that this size does not exceed the printable a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:26 -0500, Erik Lotspeich wrote: > Thank you for the perspective. It seems that the printing part of Gimp > is a second-class citizen that doesn't have the refinement of the rest > of Gimp. You misunderstood that. The Windows platform is the second-class citizen here

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:03 -0500, Erik Lotspeich wrote: > I posted a detailed report of the issues that I was having to the > gimp-user mailing list. The response from everyone was that it was > common knowledge that native Gimp printing was problematic and to use > Gutenprint. Not a singl

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:15 -0500, Erik Lotspeich wrote: > One of the most common applications for Gimp is to print photos. If the > Gnome print functionality is not up to this task, maybe it should not > have been chosen. Pretty please, check your terms. gnome-print is a framework that has

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Erik Lotspeich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Thank you for the perspective. It seems that the printing part of Gimp is a second-class citizen that doesn't have the refinement of the rest of Gimp. I have always seen Gimp as a Photoshop competitor, so I'm thinking what if my mother-in-law (o

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > Yes, it is well known that GTK+ printing (and thus GIMP printing) on > Windows doesn't really work that well. My advice is always to use some > other application to print images then instead, And just in case, there is now an experimental bu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> I have tried all possible permutations of paper size between Gimp and the > Windows driver.  Since this setup works great for all other applications > (e.g. Word, IE, Firefox, etc.), I don't see how the problem could lie > anywhere else than Gimp. (The problem is in GTK+ more likely, but that G

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Erik Lotspeich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robert, > As Sven said, it was decided to decouple GIMP and Gutenprint quite a > while ago. I (as Gutenprint project lead) agree with that decision. > It also gives us opportunities to do things that would be more > difficult if we were tied to th

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Erik Lotspeich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sven, Thanks for your reponse. > It works nicely for me and for most other users. If it doesn't work for > you, then there appears to be a bug or some misconfiguration on your > system. Perhaps you should try to isolate the problem and open a bug

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Robert Krawitz
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:47:57 -0500 From: Erik Lotspeich The native printing does not appear to work properly either on Windows or Linux. Are there plans to improve this? Can Gutenprint be made to be a dependency? Are there efforts to add CUPS support directly to Gutenprint?

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 22:47 -0500, Erik Lotspeich wrote: > It seems as though there are now two options to print with Gimp: the > gutenprint plugin and the native printing. > > The native printing does not appear to work properly either on Windows > or Linux. Are there plans to improve this

[Gimp-developer] Gimp printing future direction

2009-08-17 Thread Erik Lotspeich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I guess I created a fuss on the gimp-users mailing list a couple of weeks ago. Now, I want to ask some questions about the state of Gimp printing and its future direction. It seems as though there are now two options to print with Gimp: the gute