On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:25:49PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
I wonder when and why the terminology of hardcoding a keybinding was
introduced into this discussion. I simply don't understand it's
meaning. If you think about having two different keybindings bound to
a single menu entry,
Calum Benson wrote:
Whimsical muse: since there are almost no other gtk/GNOME apps that use
Redo (and the only one I can think of doesn't use Ctrl-Shift-Z either),
it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that we might end up changing
the HIG to whatever you decide anyway :)
Well, thanks for
Hi,
I wonder when and why the terminology of hardcoding a keybinding was
introduced into this discussion. I simply don't understand it's
meaning. If you think about having two different keybindings bound to
a single menu entry, this is AFAIK not possible with GTK+-2.x. And I
can't think of any
Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many of these mails have been written by the 99% of the users
who do not use the GIMP more than once per week (or month)? Yes,
Do I count?
When I have to redo in an app that I don't use frequently, I use the Edit
menu to see how it's done. That was
David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marc A. Lehmann wrote:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:39:44PM +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure that ergonomy was considered for Photoshop when they
chose Ctrl-Shift-Z for Redo... I do think it's overstating our
importance somewhat to
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:22:05 +0200, Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In the current situation, I think it's reasonable to fit in with
what others do in the general case, which dynamic shortcuts
provide a way to revert to the old behaviour. When
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Marc A. Lehmann wrote:
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:39:44PM +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure that ergonomy was considered for Photoshop when they
chose Ctrl-Shift-Z for Redo... I do think it's overstating our
importance somewhat to say that what's good for a large
I believe we could hard-code two keybindings to work as the
default, couldn't we?
Technically possible, but extremely horrible, since the user has to be
educated about it. And since the only argument in favour of the less
ergonomic C-S-Z is easier to learn, that sounds even worse than leaving
it
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 20:08:02 +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the current situation, I think it's reasonable to fit in with
what others do in the general case, which dynamic shortcuts
provide a way to revert to the old behaviour. When the others are
everyone using a Mac, plus
updates) at the moment :(
Phil.
From: Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CC: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED], Branko Collin [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gimp
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Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Redo shortcut (was: Undo shortcut)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:50:58
Nathan Carl Summers wrote:
I agree. Gimp's undo and redo feature differs from many other programs in
that when comparing subtle changes it is useful to switch rapidly between
the before and after views, while for a program such as a word
processor, that is probably not a useful thing to do.
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:
Ack. IMHO the new keybinding (David changed it already) is really
akward to use compared to the old one. And actually Ctrl-Shift-Z
should better be left available so we can bind it to group undos later
when this feature is implemented. (A group undo would allow to undo
/me returns from the hurricane, finally able to catch up on several days
worth of email.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However I *love* the Ctrl-R binding, especially because it lets me quickly
compare the done and undone versions of an image using a single hand with
very
Branko Collin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
BTW, I read in the Windows HIG that several shortcuts per function
are supported, for reasons of backward compatibility. Would it be
possible to have something similar in the GIMP?
YES, please!!
I fully agree that Shift-Ctrl-Z is The Right Thing
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However I *love* the Ctrl-R binding, especially because it lets me quickly
compare the done and undone versions of an image using a single hand with
very little effort. Try to do it with Ctrl-Z/Shift-Ctrl-Z and you'll find
that you need either very good
Hi,
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
Why not Ctrl-Z, which is faster and which almost everybody knows already?
Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
adopting some or all of the GNOME HIG in this regard. So - to
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
Why not Ctrl-Z, which is faster and which almost everybody knows
already?
Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
adopting some
Branko Collin wrote:
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
adopting some or all of the GNOME HIG in this regard. So - to
correct myself - I'd like to change
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:51, Branko Collin wrote:
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
Why not Ctrl-Z, which is faster and which almost everybody knows
already?
Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
currently Ctrl-R. Most
On 21 Sep 2003, at 15:46, David Neary wrote:
Branko Collin wrote:
On 21 Sep 2003, at 14:12, David Neary wrote:
Excuse me - the shortcut I'd like to change is Redo, which is
currently Ctrl-R. Most apps in the Linux desktop space are now
adopting some or all of the GNOME HIG in this
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