Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Robert L Krawitz
From: Lourens Veen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:12:27 +0100 Last thingy, about professional use of Gimp, isn't this a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing? I can't imagine anyone using a program that doesn't do CMYK, serious halftoning and easy font work (with the

[Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all. Branko's talk of a bug week got me thinking recently, and I just noticed that one of the few mails which got left in my gimp-developer mailbox (usually RFCs followups, but not in this case) was a mail that Sven sent to the list in June with a list of active 1.2 bugs (the thread was 1.2

[Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all. Branko's talk of a bug week got me thinking recently, and I just noticed that one of the few mails which got left in my gimp-developer mailbox (usually RFCs followups, but not in this case) was a mail that Sven sent to the list in June with a list of active 1.2 bugs (the thread was 1.2

Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list

2001-11-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Branko's talk of a bug week got me thinking recently, and I just noticed that one of the few mails which got left in my gimp-developer mailbox (usually RFCs followups, but not in this case) was a mail that Sven sent to the list in June with a list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Professional use of Gimp (was: Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?))

2001-11-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 13:10, Robert L Krawitz wrote: snip I can imagine professional use of a program without any of these things these days (the font stuff is most likely to be an issue). A lot of printers that get professional use have Mac/Windows drivers that take exclusively RGB

Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug week like thing for GIMP?

2001-11-27 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
While we're at it -- why does GIMP 1.3 suddenly have a lot of new tools (Select by color, Adjust brightness, etc.) that you can find in the other menus too, sometimes just as easy? (The icons look a lot like the same for me, and IMHO they're mostly clutter :-) ) Is there any way to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Seth Burgess
I think the problem we have here is that there's quite a big difference between the developers and the users of the program. The people who make open source racing games probably do that because they like to play racing games as well. The average Gimp developer seems to do it because they

[Gimp-developer] Thoughts on CMYK, and getting it without implementing it.

2001-11-27 Thread pcg
Sorry that it took so long, Simon ;) Anyways, I had some conversation with two graphics designers about CMYK problems and the Gimp at the Systems, and I think it might be worthwhile to read the following sometimes true observations. Remember, they are hearsay ;) 1. colour matching for photos

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Seth Burgess
Mitch, Sven.. when you have time.. Can you make a to do for developers that want to help? Already done. See TODO.xml Seth __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thoughts on CMYK, and getting it without implementing it.

2001-11-27 Thread Austin Donnelly
On Tuesday, 27 Nov 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: Anyways, I had some conversation with two graphics designers about CMYK problems and the Gimp at the Systems, and I think it might be worthwhile to read the following sometimes true observations. Remember, they are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Rebecca J. Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mitch, Sven.. when you have time.. Can you make a to do for developers that want to help? http://developer.gimp.org/gimp-todo.html it's generated from TODO.xml as found in the source tree. Doesn't cover everything that needs to be done, but it

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thoughts on CMYK, and getting it without implementing it.

2001-11-27 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
Hmm .. this is a pretty cool writeup. :) On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 03:10:15PM +0100, Marc A. Lehmann wrote: [...] CONCLUSIONS - THE 60% WAY TO CMYK If one were so bold as to draw some conclusions, they would probably be very similar to these: [...] 3. Educate users about channels

Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list

2001-11-27 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally it got me lookign at bugzilla (a habit that has since lapsed), and looking at the thread it seemed to lead to the resolution of a fair few bugs. Do people think that doing this on a regular (say

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thingfor GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 15:30, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Rebecca J. Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mitch, Sven.. when you have time.. Can you make a to do for developers that want to help? http://developer.gimp.org/gimp-todo.html it's generated from TODO.xml as found in the source

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Lourens Veen
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 14:50, Seth Burgess wrote: snip Allow me to correct some impressions... Very little has happened recently in the way of scripts or filters; saying that gimp developers concentrate on that is ridiculous. Sorry, my bad. Jargon problem it seems. In Gimp, scripts and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Professional use of Gimp (was: Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?))

2001-11-27 Thread Kelly Martin
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:33:22PM +0100, Lourens Veen wrote: Yes, but then we're still talking about printers here. The colour posters I designed were printed as well (on a digital press as they called it, which from what I gather is just an industrial strength printer), but that only

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thingfor GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
Okay, so I misjudged the state of development Gimp is in. I remember trying to find out some time ago how hard it would be to contribute things to Gimp, but I gave up pretty soon. In another thread Rebecca Walter suggested creating a TODO for developers that want to help. I'd like to

[Gimp-developer] Speaking of: what happened to GIMP News and Kernel Cousin GIMP?

2001-11-27 Thread Branko Collin
As the subject says: what happened to GIMP News and Kernel Cousin GIMP? These were great (if somewhat irregular) sources of information. What happened to them? I prefer reading through Kernel Cousins to reading through mailing list archives. -- branko collin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Avi Bercovich
Lourens Veen wrote: Last thingy, about professional use of Gimp, isn't this a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing? I can't imagine anyone using a program that doesn't do CMYK, serious halftoning and easy font work (with the added note that my X server crashes regularly on TrueType fonts rendered

[Fwd: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list]

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Neary
Hi all, Apologies - I accidentally took this off-list for a couple of mails. Returning to the list now. Cheers, Dave. Dave Neary wrote: Raphael Quinet wrote: Well, the easiest way to do that is to use one of the existing queries for open bugs and click on the Sev or Pri column

[Gimp-developer] Re: Speaking of: what happened to GIMP News and Kernel Cousin GIMP?

2001-11-27 Thread Carol Spears
Hello Branko, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-11-27 at 1640.22 +0100): As the subject says: what happened to GIMP News and Kernel Cousin GIMP? These were great (if somewhat irregular) sources of information. What happened to them? I prefer reading through Kernel Cousins to reading through

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Kelly Martin
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:10:47PM +0100, Avi Bercovich wrote: CMYK, halftoning etc. would be nice indeed, but possibly a Photoshop xcf plugin might be easier? I don't know of any GIMP developer willing to spend the $$$ to get the SDK for Photoshop. -- I love

Re: [Fwd: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list]

2001-11-27 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Dave Neary wrote: By mailing the 10/15 most critical bugs on a monthly basis to the list, I think people will be more likely to fix them. I know that I was when Sven last posted his trawl through outstanding bugs. It also has the benefit of connecting the very

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Avi Bercovich wrote: eh I work as a webdesigner in an Amsterdam based 'top tier' New Media company. I do little in the way of print graphics thus this may be a bit off-topic... But, all my work is done in GNU/Linux in GIMP, whilst my co-workers use Macs and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Branko Collin
On 27 Nov 2001, at 10:39, Kelly Martin wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:10:47PM +0100, Avi Bercovich wrote: CMYK, halftoning etc. would be nice indeed, but possibly a Photoshop xcf plugin might be easier? I don't know of any GIMP developer willing to spend the $$$ to get the SDK for

Re: [Fwd: [Gimp-developer] Suggestion: Active bug list]

2001-11-27 Thread Dave Neary
Raphael Quinet wrote: I see... But unfortunately it would be difficult to mail the top 10 bugs to this list every month. The first problem is technical: I don't have the time to set up such a thing. The second problem is related to the information that would be sent: some bugs have a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Avi Bercovich
Kelly Martin wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:10:47PM +0100, Avi Bercovich wrote: CMYK, halftoning etc. would be nice indeed, but possibly a Photoshop xcf plugin might be easier? I don't know of any GIMP developer willing to spend the $$$ to get the SDK for Photoshop. what $$$ are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thoughts on CMYK, and getting it without implementing it.

2001-11-27 Thread Jens Ch. Restemeier
Hi, 2. Associate sRGB or any other colourspace with the saved data in tiff/eps. It doesn't matter wether it's true or not, just give programs something to depend on. Well, actually this would be true. sRGB is defined using the phosphors standartised for HDTV and used for

[Gimp-developer] XCF support added to ImageMagick

2001-11-27 Thread Leonard Rosenthol
I just thought I'd let you folks know that I just checked support for reading (writing will come later) XCF files to the ImageMagick library (http://www.imagemagick.org). Right now you'd need to get it via CVS, BUT it will be part of the standard 5.4.1 distribution due on Friday. Leonard

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developers and users (was: Bug week like thing for GIMP?)

2001-11-27 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Branko Collin writes: Maybe I am mistaken about this, but it would seem that Adobe offers the Photoshop SDK and the Photoshop file format specifications for free download at http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/gapsdk/PhotoshopSDK.html. Yep. Except that they don't document the

[Gimp-developer] Gimp 2?

2001-11-27 Thread Laramie Leavitt
So... Is anyone actively working on GIMP 2? ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2?

2001-11-27 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 22:48, Laramie Leavitt wrote: So... Is anyone actively working on GIMP 2? Well.. YES. Since 1.3 is the path to GIMP 2 and a lot of people are working there butts off on 1.3.. I would say that is a BIG HUGE YES! No one can even think about GIMP 2 until GIMP 1.3 is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2?

2001-11-27 Thread Kelly Martin
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:48:33PM -0700, Laramie Leavitt wrote: Is anyone actively working on GIMP 2? Insofar as there is activity on GIMP 1.4, yes. Kelly ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp 2?

2001-11-27 Thread Laramie Leavitt
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Kelly Martin wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 02:48:33PM -0700, Laramie Leavitt wrote: Is anyone actively working on GIMP 2? Insofar as there is activity on GIMP 1.4, yes. Kelly Is anyone working on it insofar as it relates to GEGL and all that? If I understand this