Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-12-03 Thread Ramón Miranda
HI I am not really agree with that, for example photoshop is a Photo manipulation program, but most of CG painters use PS to paint sketches and final pieces . Film industry and game industry knows that. Lot of people use only PS to paint ,so the purpose of the program is irrelevant at certain

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-12-02 Thread Patrick Horgan
Alexia Death wrote: There already is such a set. Inkscape for vector, Gimp for photomanipulation, MyPaint for painting. People keep referring to Gimp as being a photo manipulation tool. It's an image manipulation tool. Works just fine on hand drawn images as well. Patrick

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-12-01 Thread Alexia Death
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Markus Koskimies mkos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, First a possible bug report: I have Xubuntu (9.10) and Wacom Intuos4 L graphics tablet. I have problems with both GIMP and MyPaint dialogs (load/save/settings), they frequently jam so that they do not accept mouse

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-12-01 Thread Markus Koskimies
I examined a little that jamming with mypaint, and it seems that in some circumstances, the mouse and tablet events are somehow discarded or something (they are not received to dialog message handler). Keyboard events are still received in msg handler, and e.g. X works correctly, and both xev and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-12-01 Thread Alexia Death
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Markus Koskimies mkos...@gmail.com wrote: I examined a little that jamming with mypaint, ..snip X works correctly, and both xev and xidump receive events normally. Since I have a feeling that it is somehow related to GTK, I think that my findings holds for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-12-01 Thread Markus Koskimies
Dialog jamming: I know for certain it is a GTK issue. You may downgrading GTK in use for mypaint(GIMP from trunk must have newer, or it wont build) to something before 2.17.1 I think. GIMP 2.7 was so fascinating that I would not like to go back to 2.6. So no question about downgrading GTK,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Alexia Death
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Olivier oleca...@gmail.com wrote: Of course! But since I'm writing a book about GIMP, I'm trying to get as close as possible to what will be finally published. When speaking about documentation, I was thinking to the NEWS file. Interesting point. When I was

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Markus Koskimies
Hi, First a possible bug report: I have Xubuntu (9.10) and Wacom Intuos4 L graphics tablet. I have problems with both GIMP and MyPaint dialogs (load/save/settings), they frequently jam so that they do not accept mouse (nor pen) clicks. Some dialogs work nicely all the time (like brush selections

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Markus Koskimies wrote: I would appreciate a seamless integration of graphics software together. There is no need for one-fit-for-all programs, photographers definitely need totally different kind of tools for images than painters. git clone

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Markus Koskimies
Already has that :) Anyways, about that brush dynamics, I heard that MyPaint and GIMP has different approach to brushes, so that they are not interchangeable. But take a look to MyPaint brush values, if you have time: basically, it has curves for all the variables brush has, so that you can put

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Markus Koskimies wrote: Furthermore, why GIMP has separate pen, brush and airbrush? With Pen you mean Pencil? Well, it's mistery to me :) Users I've spoken to want Pencil to draw rough, not smoothed lines 1px or 2px large by default and Brush - to draw smooth

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Markus Koskimies mkos...@gmail.com wrote: with Python, it's much quicker and easier :) Why use python? Use ruby it is a lot more beautiful ;) GEGL have bindings for both languages and more for various sketching or photo-filtering apps that potentially could be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 07:38 +0100, Olivier wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/09, Olivier wrote: OK and thanks! Was it documented somewhere and escaped me? Dear

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: Of course! But since I'm writing a book about GIMP, I'm trying to get as close as possible to what will be finally published. When speaking about documentation, I was thinking to the NEWS file. If you are writing a book, then you should

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Olivier
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: Of course! But since I'm writing a book about GIMP, I'm trying to get as close as possible to what will be finally published. When speaking

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Markus Koskimies
Yes, I mean Pencil :) And Øyvind, although I have never used ruby, I think it's still better for doing UI than plain C... Or even worse, C imitating C++ (i.e. long function names, structs and many explicit type casts). On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Sven Neumann
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 10:38 +0200, Alexia Death wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Olivier oleca...@gmail.com wrote: Of course! But since I'm writing a book about GIMP, I'm trying to get as close as possible to what will be finally published. When speaking about documentation, I was

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 19:42 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 07:38 +0100, Olivier wrote: Of course! But since I'm writing a book about GIMP, I'm trying to get as close as possible to what will be finally published. When speaking about documentation, I was thinking to the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-30 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/30/09, Olivier wrote: Since the book is not anticipated to be published before the Autumn of 2010, on the contrary I would very much like that it covers at least version 2.8, or still better, version 3.0. Ah, I feel your pain :) We published a book on GIMP in Russian which was covering

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/29/09, Olivier wrote: It seems to me that in the current git version (updated today), all the dynamic features disappeared from the options of tools like pencil or paintbrush. Or I'm not seeing them where they are? It's new palette now. Windows Docks Painting Dynamic Alexandre

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-29 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/29/09, Olivier wrote: OK and thanks! Was it documented somewhere and escaped me? Dear Olivier, We are talking about a feature that is not even officially published, not being part of any release :) It's too early to document this change. Alexandre

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-29 Thread Olivier
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/09, Olivier wrote: OK and thanks! Was it documented somewhere and escaped me? Dear Olivier, We are talking about a feature that is not even officially published, not being part of any

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-28 Thread Alexia Death
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Markus Koskimies mkos...@gmail.com wrote: There are some missing features, and - umh - interestingly working features in GIMp with drawing pad, so I downloaded the sources and I'm going to look, if I can correct some things by myself. First question is, of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Artistic extensions to Gimp with (Wacom) drawing pad

2009-11-28 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Saturday, November 28, 2009, 19:28:42, Markus Koskimies wrote: Joined to #gimp (IRCNet, correct place?). Nope, GIMPNet (irc://irc.gimp.org/). -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ Seven eighths of everything can't be seen. -- Marshall's Generalized Iceberg Theorem