Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-20 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:52:09AM +0200, Daniel Egger wrote: The IEs had troubles until somewhen (haven't checked for quite some time). Also the smaller homegrown browsers did, probably also the old GIMP helpbrowser. And I'm not sure about lynx and w3c either. Usually one doesn't notice

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Roman Joost
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 12:23:06AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Why don't you simply write it all in UTF-8? Using HTML entities seems akward and error-prone. The helpbrowser plug-in is fully UTF-8 aware and if you use an editor that copes with UTF-8, you can simply use umlauts in your texts.

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 10:33, Roman Joost wrote: Its written with UTF-8 Entities, so i think this thread is deprecated .. The only thing was a correct mapping of the umlauts. I setup my editor correctly and now i can write the docs without typing in the entities. Excuse my ignorance, but

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Roman Joost
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:50:51AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what are UTF-8 entities? I had a look at the stuff in CVS: secondaryEinfuuml;hrung/secondary and I would have expected: secondaryEinführung/secondary AFAIK, you can't write german umlauts in

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 16:19, Roman Joost wrote: AFAIK, you can't write german umlauts in xml files, which are utf-8 encoded. Well, of course you can. That's the whole point of UTF-8 encoding. It provides a single encoding suitable for all languages so that they can coexist in the same

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Die, 2003-08-19 um 16.48 schrieb Sven Neumann: Well, of course you can. That's the whole point of UTF-8 encoding. It provides a single encoding suitable for all languages so that they can coexist in the same file. All XML-1.0 compatible tools must handle UTF-8 correctly and there is thus

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mit, 2003-08-20 um 01.31 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Transcoding is a no-brainer, if that is a problem a simple one-liner can convert to whatever you want. I'm talking about the XSLT processors; sure a small perl/python/bash script will recode all generated HTML files in a directory, but as

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-08-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, sorry for catching up late on this thread. I failed to follow it while being mostly offline during camp preparation. Roman Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. The German Umlauts are really annoying. Are there some pre-processors, which checks the umlauts and replaces them with an

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-28 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Sunday 27 July 2003 3:13 pm, Daniel Egger wrote: - I'm not sure which article to use for GIMP in German so I normally don't write one. A male article sounds more strange than none at all but if we can find a good ruling -- all the better. In Portuguese, the current use is for a male article

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-28 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Mon, 2003-07-28 um 17.47 schrieb Joao S. O. Bueno: In Portuguese, the current use is for a male article - and trying making it female would be pretty bizarre. As fa as I can recall, all computer prograns or aplications are refered as male here. But anyway, many words have their genders

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Horkan
On 28 Jul 2003, Daniel Egger wrote: Date: 28 Jul 2003 18:52:41 +0200 From: Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help Am Mon, 2003-07-28 um 17.47 schrieb Joao S. O. Bueno

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Owen
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:36:08 +0200 Roman Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, this is not my main intention here - lets speak about german documentation. I figured out, that the gimp-help will now be written in docbook sgml. Is there a Gimp document style sheet? Owen --

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 12.36 schrieb Roman Joost: Okey ... i did a fresh checkout from the gimp-help-2 module and get it to work. I attached a 3 lines patch for the configure.in file, because i was wondering about a program called no, which was used, if no xsltproc is installed on the system.

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 14.46 schrieb Roman Joost: Sure, but now its attached ... Thanks, applied. I'm glad it works for you; I haven't received much feedback about it. What OS do you have? Hm ... maybe the files will become really big after adding some different languages (e.g. de, cz ...).

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 14.25 schrieb Roman Joost: In the gimp-help-2 module dir is a directory called stylesheets and the files in there, lookin for me like stylesheets. I think, yeh - there are document style sheets... Yes, there are transormation stylesheets and some really simple CSS

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Roman Joost
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 02:57:49PM +0200, Daniel Egger wrote: Thanks, applied. I'm glad it works for you; I haven't received much feedback about it. What OS do you have? Debian GNU/Linux (sid - unstable) Sure, but in that case we can still split them up a finer granularity on structure level,

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 15.23 schrieb Roman Joost: Thanks, applied. I'm glad it works for you; I haven't received much feedback about it. What OS do you have? Debian GNU/Linux (sid - unstable) Ok, no surprise that worked. :) Or should the lang specified as an attribute? like:

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 16.45 schrieb Carol Spears: you run down failing pathways. i cannot go with you. do the people contributing or trying to contribute get a say? Sure they do. [ Absolutely useless rant deleted ] I've no idea what happened to you in the last months but whatever it is,

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Roman Joost
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Carol Spears wrote: Roman, i invested money to learn docbook, i suspect it was to keep up a broken system and broken people. i would send you $5 to try to rid yourself of this dependency on docbook, at least for your own sake, try to get a better deal

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Roman Joost
On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 04:08:09PM +0200, Daniel Egger wrote: I'm submitting a little patch for introduction.xml and minor fixes in the plainhtml.de.xsl.in. Some points to consider: 1. The German Umlauts are really annoying. Are there some pre-processors, which checks the umlauts and

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Roman Joost
okey.. i'll learn that i've to attache that damn file on the mail, when i mention it. .. brr Greetings, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] diff -ru /tmp/gimp-help-2/help/C/CVS/Entries help/C/CVS/Entries --- /tmp/gimp-help-2/help/C/CVS/Entries 2003-07-27

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Son, 2003-07-27 um 19.16 schrieb Roman Joost: 1. The German Umlauts are really annoying. Are there some pre-processors, which checks the umlauts and replaces them with an utf entity (or the predifined HTML umlauts... what else...)? If not, it think i'll write a little

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-27 Thread David Neary
Roman Joost wrote: 2. How do i create a better patch? I tried: cvs diff -R help/ foobar.patch but it looked nothing suitable for submitting. All (or most) CVS operations are recursive by default. diff -u gives a unified diff, which is the preferred diff type for the

[Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Roman Joost
I looked a bit around (webpages, irc ..) to see what is done for gimp help, ecpecially german one. If i'm right, there is nothing and i would start to write a new one for the gimp 1.3 from scratch. I cant find anything related to the gimp-help project at the newer webpage. So, if someone could

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Daniel Egger
Am Sam, 2003-07-26 um 13.07 schrieb Roman Joost: I cant find anything related to the gimp-help project at the newer webpage. You're right. There isn't... :( So, if someone could point me to a ressource regarding this project it would be fine. Ressources: - This mailinglist (there had been

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On 26 Jul 2003, Daniel Egger wrote: Date: 26 Jul 2003 17:03:09 +0200 From: Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Gimp Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help Am Sam, 2003-07-26 um 13.07 schrieb Roman Joost: I

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Roman Joost
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 05:08:00PM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: the archives are either completely broken or just severely delayed. it is the 26 of July and the archive still does not show any messages for July. Yeh, you're right. I'll check the other options first (gimp-help-2) and write my

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Carol Spears
Alan Horkan wrote: On 26 Jul 2003, Daniel Egger wrote: Date: 26 Jul 2003 17:03:09 +0200 From: Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Gimp Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help Am Sam, 2003-07-26 um 13.07 schrieb

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Carol Spears wrote: the archives are either completely broken or just severely delayed. ^ it is the 26 of July and the archive still does not show any messages for July. http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer try the url

Re: [Gimp-developer] writing german online help

2003-07-26 Thread Carol Spears
Alan Horkan wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Carol Spears wrote: the archives are either completely broken or just severely delayed. ^ it is the 26 of July and the archive still does not show any messages for July.