Re: [Gimp-user] font location.
On 04/03/10 21:12, John Culleton wrote: > I wanted to use the free Pricedown font in a Gimp process. First I put it > in my home directory: > /home/safe/.gimp-2.6/fonts/pricedow.ttf > Gimp didn't find it. > Then I put it in > /usr/share/fonts/TTF/pricedow.ttf > Gimp didn't find it. > Then I put it in /usr/share/gimp/2.0/fonts/pricedow.ttf > Gimp found it. > > Now we are a long way from 2.0. Why do I have to put a font in there to be > found? And why doesn't the online Gimp manual say anything about font > installation? > > Slackware 13 Linux, Gimp 2.6.6 > I'm using FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p2 with GIMP 2.6.6 and all of my fonts (I have over 10,000 and that's not including those installed with GIMP and my system) are in ~/.fonts/ and GIMP detects them all (along with every other app) just fine. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A question that has never been asked....
On 04/03/10 15:40, Jogchum Reitsma wrote: > Well, anyone... when there are only native English speakers left on the > planet. Until then, to me - from the Netherlands - and many others it's > not offensive at all. I'm American by birth and see no offense in the name. If someone finds it offensive when taken in context of how it was referred to, too bad for them. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A question that has never been asked....
On 04/01/10 16:17, Frank Gore wrote: > I wonder what the authors of "less" and "lame" feel about their choice of > name. I'm sure the authors of less feel pretty lame, since there is a 'more' tool (which, IMO, is not as useful as less). As for lame, well. Let's not go there. ;) -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Open a file r/o
On 03/25/10 16:05, Lennart Svensson wrote: > When using gimp in a shell and open a file r/o you write: > prompt> gimp -a picture.jpg > > So what I want is to use the '-a' feature when I use 'open image' window. > This feature exist in the application but you can only reach it from the > shell prompt. > So my question is why it is not reachable inside gimp ? > > I can live without the feature but if I press Contr-S will my original file > be destroyed. > > > /Lennart > > PS. I use the '-a' to inhibit destroying Use Ctrl+shift+s instead of ctrl+s Adding the shift opens the "save as" dialog and will not destroy the original. I don't see the additional complexity as needed since ctrl+shift+s does what you need it to do (preserve the original). Again, I also suggest copying the file (cp original.ext original.bak.ext) before you begin editing it. I generally use ctrl+shift+s out of habit even if I plan on destroying the original by overwriting it. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Open a file r/o
On 03/24/10 18:00, Jay Smith wrote: > Martin's options above and Sven's option to open and then do a > SaveAs all, in my opinion, sort of miss the point. > > My observation is that the "OpenAs" protects the user from themself. If > a user (myself included!!!) is going is screw up a file, these sensible > methods that Martin and Sven list are probably not going to save the > user from themself. If said user is unsure of their own abilities or worried about destroying a file, creating a backup copy (just cp image1.ext image1-bak.ext is an easy enough command to run, with Windows just right click on the file icon, copy, right click on an open part of the file manager or desktop, paste and you wind up with "Copy of image1.ext") is the best solution instead of trying to add complexity to the tool used to edit them. You could also set the perms on Windows or *Nix to read-only on the original. Both are easy enough to do. > However, IF you want to argue that such a user won't think to use (or > understand the meaning of) an OpenAs feature, I would probably agree > with you. People who need to be protected from themselves often find > ways around every such protection. And that includes me. ;-) When you make something idiot-proof, the universe creates a better idiot. > For myself, I can see OpenAs being useful. I disagree for the reasons stated above. > P.S. More importantly, please let's be sure that all the file "create" > PERMISSIONS are being created correctly. I already posted a bug on > this, but I sure am getting tired of files being created with "rw- r-- > r--" even though the umask, directory perms, etc., and everything else Um, that is. You'll find every file you save will by default rw-r--r-- From my own $HOME directory: -rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 2492 Feb 2 09:32 .vimrc Or even better, a file that's recently been created: -rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 8336 Mar 25 11:28 .xscreensaver Those perms give user1 (user, group) read and write permissions and everyone else read permissions (which is how it should be by default). The only time you need execute (x) permissions are on executables and if you want someone else to be able to read them without copying the file to them, just add them to your group. > is exactly as it should be. This may have already been fixed, but I > don't have the skills to compile/install or whatever without hiring Seriously? Even when I was a Linux n00b I was compiling and installing in a matter of minutes. To each their own (and I will say that doing such on Ubuntu is very hard). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] add fonts to gimp
On 03/09/10 15:25, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Programmer In Training wrote, about adding fonts to GIMP: > > >> On Windows, I don't know off the top of my head, if you are running >> Windows, perhaps someone else with access to a Windows box will be able >> to tell you what you should find there. > > Don't need to do anything special; the Windows implementation of GIMP > seems to be set to use any font in the fonts folder. > > ns The OP wants to The GIMP to read fonts from an user-defined folder. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] add fonts to gimp
On 03/09/10 11:52, Gracia M. Littauer wrote: > can one add font dirs to gimp, if so how.. The standard way is to do the following: Edit -> Preferences In preferences click on the arrow next to Folders, scroll down. Here is where things get hairy. On *Nix you should by default have two entries: /home/user/.gimp-2.x/fonts (replace x with your point version) /usr/local/share/gimp/fonts On Windows, I don't know off the top of my head, if you are running Windows, perhaps someone else with access to a Windows box will be able to tell you what you should find there. Now you can either add fonts to those directories OR, at least on my FreeBSD-8.0-RELEASE-p2 machine, you can create a dot directory (like .gimp-2.x in the above example) called .fonts and drop all your fonts in there. If you do that, you won't have any extra steps. If, however, you want to put your fonts elsewhere, these are the steps to add a folder to that list for GIMP to look in for fonts. Hit the folder button to the extreme right to start browsing for the directory that you want to add. During this process you can create a folder while browsing for one by selecting "create folder" option in the window that you use to browse the directory. When done select ok, hit the white paper to add the directory to the list, click ok and restart The GIMP. From then on it will look in those folders to see those fonts. If I'm missing a step (perhaps for Windows), I hope someone will add to this reply (also correcting me if I've missed a step). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content copyright under the OWL http://owl.apotheon.org Please do not CC me. If I'm posting to a list it is because I am subscribed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] [OT]Web Design [Was Re: Create web page?]
On 1/29/2010 3:25 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote: > 2010/1/29 Paul Hartman : >> Well, that is its definition from the DTD, which is what the document >> is describing in the first place. They are taking the whole DTD and >> going over each part piece by piece. You forgot to include the rest of >> the chapter which explains what all of that means and has several >> pages of human-language descriptions, examples and explanations about >> all of it. :) > > While I see your point, I hope you see mine! :) > > Imagine a newbie going to W3C to learn how to make basic websites. > He/she shouldn't have to know about the charset, type, name, hreflang, > rel, rev, accesskey, shape, coords, tabindex, onfocus or onblur > attributes. What the newbie *really* needs to know is href="URL">Text! > That is a good point, but again, one can skim and scan the W3C docs very easily. Examples are numerous and easy to find (generally right after a description of use). Anyway, this discussion is way off-topic for this list, so for the bottom line: Use the right tool for the right job. GIMP and OOo are not meant as web design tools (although you can probably get away with using both in a pinch). OOo is an office suite and GIMP is an image manipulation program. Depending on your platform, there is a ton of tools available to get you going in the right direction without being complex or hard to use. I even have a few recommendations: Windows: NoteTab (requires at least basic knowledge) CoffeeCup HTML Editor (free or paid version, both are awesome) Notepad (requires at least basic knowledge) *Nix: Quanta Bluefish vim (requires at least basic knowledge) CoffeeCup HTML Editor[0] I cannot recommend for Mac as I have no clue what's available. Of the ones that I didn't mark as requiring basic knowledge, they all have a list of tags and at least CoffeeCup has several wizards to get you going on the right foot. The latest version for Windows also has a WYSIWYG mode. vim and NoteTab both offer syntax highlighting to make up for the lack of automation that the others provide (although last I checked, NoteTab did offer a list of valid tags). [0]: Last time I checked, there was a Linux version of CoffeeCup's HTML editor, but it's been a while since I've looked at that. I generally resort to vim on *Nix. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Web resolution question
On 1/27/2010 5:33 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:06 PM, wrote: >> The only problem isI have no idea how to set the width of my web page. >> I need to know the exact html code I'm supposed to use. > > Perhaps use the width or max-width CSS properties in the appropriate > place on your page. Which one you use might depend on the structure of > your document and the browser used by your audience (I don't think IE6 > supports max-width). I don't generally set a max-width unless I'm going multi-column (and that can get rather advanced very quickly). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Web resolution question
On 1/27/2010 4:43 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: > You can use something like Google Analytics to see what your customers > are using (assuming they have Javascript enabled...). Even if you only have Read Only access to your log files, you can use AWSTATs as well, although I'm not sure if it can determine resolution it gives a good idea of browser and os. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Web resolution question
On 1/27/2010 12:01 PM, Akkana Peck wrote: > That's one reason why GIMP isn't a good web design tool, though it's > great for making individual graphics to use as part of a web page. > Perhaps try an HTML forum to figure out where your HTML is going wrong? > > ...Akkana I'd also be willing to help, off-list, of course. (: -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Web resolution question
On 1/27/2010 9:22 AM, bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: > I wouldn't know how to determine if it were. I figure (wrongly) that if > 2 pictures are placed in a specific location when I make a web page then > they should appear in the same location and relationship on the web. That's how it should work. If that's not the case, check your CSS and HTML for issues between the browsers. Generally the only reason the images should /appear/ to be in different locations is because someone is viewing the site wider or narrower then what you are seeing. If you check out http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us on a variety of machines, you'll see that the images are placed pretty much in fixed positions across all monitors, resolutions and web browsers. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Create web page?
On 1/26/2010 11:42 AM, bigsk...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm just a computer user with little or no interest in something other > than making a simple web site. No flashy stuff (yet), just simple > things. But, I do want the flexibility of making the page look the way > I want it to lookin that, WYSIWYG is typically a misleading > termas the results are much different than what I hope for. In > other words- it doesn't work out like that for me. And that's why books > are written on "how to do it". There are also online tuts. Again, I generally find them to be better than books because of being able to search for exactly what you need with minimal effort. -- PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Create web page?
On 1/26/2010 10:56 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote: > 2010/1/26 Programmer In Training : >> I use a plain text editor. If you're going to be doing any sort of even >> half-serious web design, I highly recommend several methods of learning >> HTML: >> >> Read the standard available at: >> www.w3.org >> > > It is not a good idea to just jump in and start reading standards and > specifications. I suggest reading a good book about basic modern web > design instead. > I disagree. After teaching myself the basics (by copying work others had done), reading the standards and specifications jumped my knowledge more then any book ever did. The only design book I have is for CSS 2.1 and I don't even use it that much. It's not that it's a bad book (it's a great one, in fact), it's just that I find the specification to be much more user friendly in regards to search-ability. -- PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Create web page?
On 1/26/2010 6:56 AM, RSA wrote: > Just going by what I read on a "tutorial". > > http://gimp-tutorials.net/websitetutorial > > > I use OpenOffice Writer and create web pages that wayit's much > easier for a novice like myself than Kompozer and can do more with > less html knowledge. I use a plain text editor. If you're going to be doing any sort of even half-serious web design, I highly recommend several methods of learning HTML: Read the standard available at: www.w3.org Go around to websites you like and view the source (it's how I learned to start out), then copy/paste the parts you like or want to learn more about. If you don't care about standards validity to start with, you only need to worry about the following structure: Insert title Insert content here You seem to be an intelligent fellow. The above methods got me to designing nice looking sites in only about 6 months. Of course I've been brushing up my skills for the past 12 years now. I don't do anything overly-complex because I'm lazy and because it will break in at least one major browser. To get this back on subject, the only thing I use GIMP for in web design is image creation/editing. -- PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Create web page?
On 1/25/2010 9:46 PM, RSA wrote: > Can anyone recommend good tutorial for making a web page with GIMP? I recommend you don't. It might be good to use for general layout and such, but I recommend learning HTML and designing a site that way. -- PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Loading/indexing fonts everytime GIMP starts
On 1/22/2010 10:44 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: > >> time I open it. Sure it takes longer to open GIMP by doing that, but I >> like having all my fonts available all the time. > > Unique again :) I am definitely the most unique individual you'll ever meet. (: >> The GIMP is the only program I'm aware of that allows you to specify an >> extra, alternative font directory. > > Oh, Scribus does it as well, for ages. I'll have to see if there is a Windows port until I can get FreeBSD up and running. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/2010 10:12 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 1/22/10, Programmer In Training wrote: > >> My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. > > Don't forget to write a tutorial :-P I've thought about it. I was going to start doing so for Renderosity (they have nothing for GIMP users there) several years ago but never got around to it. I'm not really sure where to begin as I really don't understand the settings. I just click and slide and adjust until I find what I like. No skill there! :p -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Complaint
On 1/22/2010 9:48 AM, Deniz Dogan wrote: > It didn't take me long at all to become productive in GIMP and I'm > still learning! I'm in no way a professional, I mainly do web design > using GIMP (which can be a pain at sometimes because it doesn't have > layer groups like Photoshop). > > Try out different things, click stuff you have no idea about what they > do. At least that's what I did... Tutorials helped me very little. > That's how I learned how to use GIMP. I don't like tutorials myself. They tend to be rather specific, even though they are trying to teach generalized techniques. I just experiment until I find something I like and than I try to remember what I did so I can do it again. My favorite tool right now is the fractal explorer. I have a good notion I'll never become an expert at using it but boy, do I have fun[0]! (: [0]: http://adragonstale.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/art/digital/ -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Loading/indexing fonts everytime GIMP starts
On 1/22/2010 8:55 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 1/22/10, Wei-Tsun Sun wrote: > >>> A font manager is a separate application and not part of GIMP. >>> >>> If you are interested in a free open source solution, try Fontmatrix >>> -- it has a build for Windows. >>> >> >> Got that, disabling fonts seems too hacky. I am thinking if there is another >> way to solve that issue. > > The only other way is not to use many fonts at all. There is > absolutely nothing hacky about disabling and reenabling fonts via font > managers. This is how most designers work. > > Alexandre Just my $2 (adjusted for inflation). I have over 10,000 fonts. A couple of hundred (mostly ones I've gotten from Ascender Fonts and those included with XP) are in C:\Windows\Fonts. All my others are in a separate directory which The GIMP re-reads every time I open it. Sure it takes longer to open GIMP by doing that, but I like having all my fonts available all the time. It generally takes a minute or two for The GIMP to open as it reads all those fonts, and it can be a pain to find the one I really want, but the extra wait and work just makes it all the sweeter when I complete a project. Unfortunately The GIMP is the only program I'm aware of that allows you to specify an extra, alternative font directory. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/20/2010 12:08 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > But I think we need to keep the setting we have. Some people prefer it > the way you do, they want their image windows to hide docks, while > others don't want the docks to be hidden. > > / Martin > > Then the old behavior from 2.4 should be made optional, or at least a reasonable facsimile. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/20/2010 9:23 AM, Claus Cyrny wrote: > Why do you need a 'Minimize' button for the toolbox? For 2.8, > there will be an optional singe-window mode available (the link > to the respective article was already posted in this thread). > > Claus The toolbox should not be linked to the image editing window (especially when it is always on TOP of the image editing window) for starters. Once I pick a tool, I don't need to see the tool box. I need to see the image I'm working on, whether it's 1600x1200 (as any of the full size images here: http://adragonstale.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/art/digital/ or 250x250. I should be able to float the tool dialogs when I just need that dialog and not require the entire toolbox. It's much easier to work around one small window then one large window (I am not going to constantly resize the entire toolbox, that's a waste of time). The way GIMP worked in 2.4 was PERFECT. I was hoping only for bug fixes and security updates past that. I guess if I'm going to continue using The GIMP I'm going to have to revert back to that version. What about GEGL and babl you might ask? I really don't give a flip about either since their website has been down for Lord knows how long and I have no clue what they are supposed to do (I've tried experimenting with the GEGL options and was not pleased). At this point I don't care. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/20/2010 8:46 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > Running GIMP on Windows and hating single-window mode is bloody unique :) I've ran some flavor of Linux almost as long as I've run some version of Windows. > You are talking about different things, as a matter of fact. There is > no way you can revert to GIMP 2.4 behaviour. There never will be. That is rather unfortunate. I'll have to find a new image editor than. I do not want to be using a PS clone. That's not why I use The GIMP. I used it because of flexibility. It's becoming less and less flexible, in my opinion. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/20/2010 7:04 AM, David Gowers wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Programmer In Training >> So the next update will see the ability to revert back to the old >> behavior? That will be nice. (: > > What version are you using? > GIT HEAD (dd8b867852efccc00eda94244ef1f27dc1a145b7 as of this writing) > already has this option working, I just checked. > I think commit db2221c97d0532b2a558ba44fb80f2b4e39c2c0a (25 or so > commits earlier) was the first commit in which this switching was > non-buggy, but don't quote me on that. > 2.6.8 and as far as I can tell, there is no way to revert to old behavior. This is the behavior I'm currently having to deal with. http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/screen-caps/gimp.png (458KB, don't ask me how it's that large) -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/19/2010 6:43 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 1/20/10, Programmer In Training wrote: > >>> itch I am scratching: I run Linux but hate to manage windows and/or >>> workspaces, and single-window mode will fix this for me. >> >> I absolutely /hate/ the single window mode. > > You don't have to like single image node either. It'll be optional. > So the next update will see the ability to revert back to the old behavior? That will be nice. (: -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/19/2010 1:12 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: > Michael J. Hammel wrote: >> For example, they've >> responded to requests for a single window mode from the Windows user >> community by adding it to development for 2.8. We Linux users don't >> need this so the developers are making this configurable. > > This is a common misconception. The single-window mode is just as much > for Linux users as it is for Windows users. It is in many ways my own Really? > itch I am scratching: I run Linux but hate to manage windows and/or > workspaces, and single-window mode will fix this for me. I absolutely /hate/ the single window mode. I loved being able to float toolboxes and have the image editing area closable separate of the main program when I'm not using it (but will go back to using GIMP soon). It's one of the features (aside from being free) that first attracted me to The GIMP. Losing that flexibility is a pain in my rear. I generally give GIMP it's own desktop. Solves that problem rather well. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: Completely off every imaginable topic;)
On 1/19/2010 2:02 PM, Elwin Estle wrote: >> But that' s not how at least *I* read messages on the many mailing >> lists I follow. When new postings to an existing thread arrive in my >> mailbox, I have read the postings prior to that post already earlier, >> so I don' t have to read them again. For me, scrolling down all the >> previous postings is a waste of time and energy. And frustrating, to be >> honest... > > > Ditto. That's where judicious snipping of previous emails and replying directly underneath the points your addressing is ideal. Top-posting = bad and goes against the way you read (and sorry, while I do read every email in a topic I'm following, I don't remember what was said from one day to the next). Bottom-posting isn't much better, but it follows the NORMAL flow of reading. Email is just like any other text-based communication. Last time I'm posting on the subject. Lets go help some folks. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: Completely off every imaginable topic;)
On 1/18/2010 8:53 AM, Robert L Cochran wrote: > I top post. > > I don't think it helps to beat on people for their posting styles. It > helps simply to respond to the issue under discussion. > > Bob The problem with top posting, a problem no one seems to understand despite it being so simple, is that top-posting BREAKS THE NORMAL READING BEHAVIOR OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ON THE PLANET! We don't read from bottom to top, it's top to bottom. With top posting you read the solution before you ever learn what the problem was. Also, not editing out information you aren't directly responding to wastes bandwidth (whether or not broadband penetration is high in your country (US is ranked 17th for broadband penetration) is of no concern). It wastes bandwidth and takes up extra, unnecessary room on a users computer or in their mail account. Don't top post, bottom posting is much better, and posting your replies directly UNDER the issue you are responding to is best, especially when coupled with judicious snipping of unrelated (that is, unrelated to your reply of the issue in concern) errata. I cannot respond to the issue under discussion when I do not know what exactly you are responding to! So to summarize: * Don't top post * Snip unrelated errata from the rest of the post. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Completely off every imaginable topic;)
On 1/18/2010 7:45 AM, Ken Warner wrote: > Luckily, that's just your opinion -- and your problem. Unfortunately when you top post, you make it everyone's problem. It's lazy and inconsiderate. Top-posting breaks the natural method of reading (top to bottom) and that's the only reason against it (and should be the only reason not to top post). -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop
On 1/12/2010 2:38 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 1/12/10, Norman Silverstone wrote: >> The great thing about GIMP is that it is free so you can try it, at no >> cost to yourself, and see if it will do what you want it to do. > > But so is Photoshop. 30 days trial :) > > Alexandre Photoshop is free to try, for 30 days. GIMP is free to try for the rest of your life. -- PIT All original parts of emails (C) under http://owl.apotheon.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail Images are Larger then Originals
On 1/6/2010 2:34 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:25:26 -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: > >> Thanks for the suggestions, but after converting to indexed and reducing >> to 256 colors, some of the original sized images were BIGGER > > I forgot to mention, you have to select "No dithering" (since these are > screenshots, dithering only makes the images worse). > I did, after the first time I converted them. I reconverted back to RGB, then back to Indexed with no dithering. It's all good. I need to read up on the GIMP documentation regarding PNG quality settings. Mine are apparently too high. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Thumbnail Images are Larger then Originals
On 1/6/2010 12:01 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:41:13 -0600, Programmer In Training wrote: > >> Why are the thumbnails larger in file size then most of the originals >> (at full size)?! This is unacceptable. I'd rather not use jpg if it can >> at all be avoided. I used the same exact settings for saving as a png >> that I used for the originals. > > Your originals have few colours and sharp borders, and are fairly small. > The thumbnails aren't that much smaller, but due to resizing, you > introduced a lot of new colours, which make the images harder to compress, > despite somewhat smaller size. You can save some space by converting the > images (both original and resized) to 256 colours, but the originals will > likely still compress better. > Thanks for the suggestions, but after converting to indexed and reducing to 256 colors, some of the original sized images were BIGGER in file size so I just wound up cropping out what I really didn't need for the article I'm writing (if anyone is interested in reading it, I'll provide a link if you mail me off list) and doing away with the idea of thumbnails completely (for some reason, all the reduced sized images, despite what I set the compression type to, look thoroughly crappy, which is a change from 2.6.6 (I'm using GIMP 2.6.8)). Hopefully none of the images will flow outside the boundry of the blog layout. I've also been having another issue with GIMP, but I think that one is because of Windows and not GIMP. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Thumbnail Images are Larger then Originals
I'm currently writing a blog article on security online and I've created some screen-shots, which I then scaled down (to 400 on the smallest side, any smaller and it becomes completely useless to me) and used "save as" to make a thumbnail copy while keeping the original[0-1]. Why are the thumbnails larger in file size then most of the originals (at full size)?! This is unacceptable. I'd rather not use jpg if it can at all be avoided. I used the same exact settings for saving as a png that I used for the originals. [0]Originals: http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/security/enigmail-settings/ [1]Thumbnails: http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/security/enigmail-settings/thumbs/ -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems with GEGL.org?
On 1/5/2010 9:06 PM, Deniz Dogan wrote: > 2010/1/6 Programmer In Training : >> Is anyone else having problems with the GEGL website? I know this >> probably isn't the most appropriate forum to ask on, but it's the only >> one I know of which is using gegl and babl. > > If you're referring to http://www.gegl.org I can't seem to access it > either. In the future, you can use services such as > http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com to figure these things out. :) > Thanks, never knew there was such a service. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Problems with GEGL.org?
Is anyone else having problems with the GEGL website? I know this probably isn't the most appropriate forum to ask on, but it's the only one I know of which is using gegl and babl. -- PIT signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp copy/pasted layer has selection around it
On 1/2/2010 12:34 PM, gordon13 wrote: > I cant work out how to remove the selection rectangle that appears around the > pasted elements of my image. E.g. I selected what I wanted to make a new layer > from, then ctrl-x, and ctrl-v. clicked new layer, and there it was. Only > problem is that for some reason, theres a rectangle around the content of the > layer now, and I cant draw outside of it,so i cant edit anything other than > what i originally pasted. Its such a pain, and I hope someone understand what > Im talking about! How do I remove that rectangular selection around the layer? > You'll need to anchor the layer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Copy and past between GIMP and external app on Windows
On 12/28/2009 7:01 PM, Alchemie foto\grafiche wrote: > The Windows clipboard reserve even more horrors , as example strip away the > transparency (alpha channel) > > So may be a good idea save in gimp and then reopen from the external app > instead then copy and paste > > BUT from the gimp side will be nice a menu option as "Open With" or "Send to" > to exchange images with other apps Am I the only one using GIMP who has no such problems when copy/pasting with the clipboard? Granted generally I do it between two images opened in the GIMP to begin with, but still. I've copy/pasted text layers, layers with an alpha channel, etc with no problem what-so-ever. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Copy and past between GIMP and external app on Windows
On 12/27/2009 1:26 PM, Monique et Bernard Weill wrote: > Hi, > Sorry, but the zoom level don't modify the size of the image measured > with the appropriate tools (in Gimp -uppercase +M- or in external programs). No, but it does modify the apparent size. I've on many occasions, after scanning in something at 300dpi, thought the image was properly sized only to find the zoom at 67% or less. From what was described in the OP, it sounds as if he hasn't adjusted for zoom, so when he pastes he gets an image larger then expected. I've copy/pasted images into and out of GIMP since 1.x (I forget the version number I started out with, but it's been several years now) and the problem he described sounds exactly like he's not taking into account zoom level when describing the size of the image in GIMP. GIMP automatically tries to fit the image into the editing window via lowering the zoom to less then 100%. Also, he never indicates he measured the image. He only said he scanned in at 300dpi. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Copy and past between GIMP and external app on Windows
On 12/27/2009 10:09 AM, Monique et Bernard Weill wrote: > Hi, > > I am working on Windows XP, GIMP 2.6.7. like this: > > 1- I scan an image in 300 dpi at his real size: A4 and obtain file in Jpeg > and/or Tif. > 2- I open the file in GIMP. > 3- I select part of the image and copy (Ctrl + C) the selection in the > Clipboard. > > And now my problem: > Past (Ctrl V) on: > - Gimp: the size of the copied selection is good (equal to the original size). > - Microsoft program like Powerpoint or OO program like Draw or Inkscape: the > size is around multiply by 3! In GIMP, check to see what the zoom level is on the image. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Native Support for SVG
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 12/8/09, David Gowers wrote: > >> Why should GIMP support SVG export? > > Because jumping from one (bitmap) application to another (vector) and > back is fairly normal? While I agree with you that Inkscape is a > superior authoring tool for vector graphics, there is no reason why > GIMP shouldn't have SVG export. Or PDF export. > > @Programmer In Training (jeez, is that your real name? you know people > on the Internet might have problems referring to you? ;)) As a matter It's not, of course, but it tells exactly what this email account is used for, I hope (and that would be technical mailing lists, program support mailing lists, etc.). > of fact GEGL comes with an SVG loader and also supports a number of > SVG Filters. It also has quite a interesting and extensible API for > drawing paths. So in the future GIMP will at least load complex SVG > files correctly. I know. I noticed when I served my first SVG it was associated with GIMP and not Inkscape. So I tried loading it up and GIMP and it did so nicely (everything displayed properly). I only heard of GEGL yesterday when I checked out the changelog and news for GIMP 2.7. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Native Support for SVG
David Gowers wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Programmer In Training > mailto:p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us>> wrote: > > I was looking at the changelog for 2.7 and I still don't see GIMP moving > any closer to supporting SVG (which is quickly becoming not-so-rare). > I'd rather not have to go to another tool to create SVGs (I would like > to move my website to exclusively using SVGs and only serving up PNGs to > browsers that don't support SVG yet). The SVG Export tool does not work > (I followed the directions to the "T" the last time I tried it and all > it did was crash GIMP). > > > SVG is a vector format, not a raster format; GIMP is a raster image > editor. Why should GIMP support SVG export? At least, there seems no > advantage in using GIMP over using Inkscape to make SVGs, and many > disadvantages. I know SVG is a vector format. Why? Well for one I think GIMPs interface is superior to that of Inkscape. That for me makes all the difference. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Native Support for SVG
I was looking at the changelog for 2.7 and I still don't see GIMP moving any closer to supporting SVG (which is quickly becoming not-so-rare). I'd rather not have to go to another tool to create SVGs (I would like to move my website to exclusively using SVGs and only serving up PNGs to browsers that don't support SVG yet). The SVG Export tool does not work (I followed the directions to the "T" the last time I tried it and all it did was crash GIMP). TIA for the help (: ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
