Re: [Goanet]AIDS warnings can get you in trouble

2005-03-26 Thread Mario Goveia
Avelino, Be careful, or you may become the target of some very angry Goanetters who went ballistic when I suggested that people need to watch their behinds when sitting in public places. I was accused of using false information in order to make a simple common-sense suggestion. Apparently, the

Re: [Goanet]Last Man Standing with Castee

2005-03-26 Thread Mario Goveia
Gilbert, Happy Easter to you and to all Goanetters. Talking about silence, I did not see any response, from you or anyone else, to my post about the article on the horrors of the Catholic caste system in the Jesuit magazine, America, dated February 14, 2005, titled 'Dalit' Means Broken. And

Re: [Goanet]Bogus health nooj courtesy Jose Colaco

2005-03-26 Thread Mario Goveia
--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BUT Mario?! He has ALL kinds of connections to the medical field. All he had to do was say something at the dinner table, before deciding to spread this bogus stuff. But in these days, it is OK to LIE, I am given to understand. It is the INTENT which is

Re: [Goanet]Re: The hazard of spreading rumours of hazards

2005-03-26 Thread Mario Goveia
--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one would have thought that sensible people would profer advice - NOT spread Bogosity. But then, some among us have problems with articulating in a truthful fashion. They'd rather tell us untruthful stuff, and then turn around and tell us HOW

Re: [Goanet] It's still a possible hazard

2005-03-25 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar wrote: Many anti-spam watch-dog sites and public health agencies, such as the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, have issued statements against the dissemination of this urban legend. Gabriel de Figueredo replied: Therefore, are the Health Dept of the

Re: [Goanet]Bogus anecdote about US Immigration officials

2005-03-25 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: Using your yardstick, what is wrong in alerting people to the fact that US immigration might turn them down even at the point of entry? You seem to believe that the US of A is squeaky-clean and is a paragon of virtue and conformity. Mario

Re: [Goanet]Bogus anecdote about US Immigration officials

2005-03-24 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life here is better by far, stay happy and hope you meet some nice Red neck who will party with you! Mind your backside though, ubiquitous Red neck needle! Mario replies: Hey, Gabe. Are you upset with US Immigration because they probably revoked your

Re: [Goanet]A horrific warning to all

2005-03-24 Thread Mario Goveia
in a twist, along with George Pinto and Gabe Menezes. Gabriel de Figueredo has already pointed out that the warning was hardly farfetched. We're talking about an incurable and fatal disease here, one that everyone can avoid with a minimum of care. --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario

Re: [Goanet]Bogus anecdote about US Immigration officials

2005-03-24 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/mar/23guest11.htm Religiously against Modi March 23, 2005 Visas, or rather their revocation, make strange bedfellows. A week ago, one would have said Ram Guha, anthropologist and historian, had little in common with

[Goanet]A horrific warning to all

2005-03-23 Thread Mario Goveia
From: S. Dinesh Gopinath, I.A.S, Director of Medical Research Div, Chennai. Subject: AIDS Dear Friends, Kindly take a couple of minutes to go thru this mail. If useful may advise others also . Please pass this on to others. This happened in Paris recently and may happen elsewhere also. A

Re: [Goanet]Cardinal demands that Da Vinci Code be banned?

2005-03-23 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Mario, Your reaction to my posting on the controversial Da Vinci Code is perfectly logical except for this one sentence.. I think it is also entirely appropriate for the Church or its members to have the right to freely criticize or praise these

Re: [Goanet]UK gives Modi visa but wants no official contact

2005-03-23 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Edward Verdes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UK gives Modi visa but wants no official contact Mario replies: The Brits are trying to have their cake and eat it too. The larger issue is what it says about the expat Gujaratis, both in the US and UK, to invite this Hindu-supremacist Narendra Modi

Re: [Goanet]Avelino exposed!

2005-03-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Avelino, I am not defending or attacking anyone, man, only trying, without much success it seems, to shine a light on your ignorance and bias. Since you keep insisting that your peculiar questions are only an attempt to understand the Goan Catholic caste system I asked you nicely to read an

Re: [Goanet]Cardinal demands that Da Vinci Code be banned?

2005-03-22 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The e-mail below was sent to me from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and is supposedly from Joseph Dias, General Secretary, The CSF. I think that is a paranoid reaction against an interesting work of fiction. I totally disagree with the opinions expressed below.

[Goanet]How did OK originate?

2005-03-22 Thread Mario Goveia
How did the term OK originate, and do other languages have an equivalent? The Straight Dope claims the letters come from the phrase Oll Korrect. The phrase comes from a curious fad for comical abbreviations that swept the USA in the 1830s and 1840s. The estimable Oxford Dictionary concurs,

[Goanet]Goan appointed Portugal's Minister of State, Internal Administration

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Goan appointed Portugal's Minister of State, Internal Administration PANAJI: A Goan, Antonio da Costa , was recently appointed to the number two position in the Portuguese government as Minister of State and Internal Administration. He was appointed to the post on 4 March by the newly appointed

Re: [Goanet]Drivel

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Now, now, Cornel. Calm down, man. Why do you think this diabolical system has lasted for so long? We need to be patient. I am taking Avelino at his word that he is just interested in learning more about the subject. So, I have suggested he read the article in America magazine, written not by

Re: [Goanet]Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: The programme on BBC 4, put forth a view, Indians are a very religious lot. The problem with India could be the secularism. It would make more sense to embrace all Religions i.e. pluralism. I subscribe to this, setting aside religion is not the

Re: [Goanet]Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4368501.stm US stands by India visa decision BJP activists protest against the US The decision has angered Mr Modi's supporters The United States has reaffirmed a decision to refuse the controversial Indian

Re: [Goanet]RE: Cornel exposed!

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
! Be creative, don't embarrass your self! 'yawn' Z... Avelino Bastora/Kuwait __ Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cornel, I should have realized that you are leading a sinister conspiracy to replace caste with education and intelligence. What could be worse? Shame

Re: [Goanet]This heated debate about nothing...

2005-03-20 Thread Mario Goveia
cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marlon, I am just catching up with some old posts and couldn't let one of yours pass without a brief comment. I disagree with you profoundly that, the debate about caste is a heated debate about nothing. Mario adds: As one of the geriatrics who has been

Re: [Goanet]Insult to India or snub to a Hindu supremacist

2005-03-18 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=73996cat=India Some excerpts: Modi, who was due to visit the United States at the end of the month, on the other hand, hit out at the US for revoking his visa, saying it amounted to an insult to India

Re: [Goanet]Pro-caster's nought outcome on caste.

2005-03-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Also, the silence from the pro-casters following my recent post regarding the Jesuit magazine America, which has published a devastating indictment of caste among Catholics in southern India in their February 14, 2005 issue, is positively deafening. --- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi

RE: [Goanet]Is it the question or the answer

2005-03-18 Thread Mario Goveia
Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voltaire (1694-1768): Judge a man by his questions rather than by his answers. Mario replies: Another ancient sage said, There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Who was right?

Re: [Goanet]Re: BBC propaganda - II

2005-03-18 Thread Mario Goveia
JC, You still don't seem to have the foggiest idea what the content of this thread is about, which leads to your gratuitous comments on the periphery that have no relevence to the primary issues. At least Eddie stoutly defends his opinions with specifics and logic that are relevent, with only a

Re: [Goanet]Re: BBC propaganda

2005-03-17 Thread Mario Goveia
--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. singularly inimitable drivel ( touché ) Mario replies: The infantile drivel comes from you, JC, since all you have done is levy some cheap personal insults without any specifics to back them up. You haven't made a single cogent comment about the

Re: [Goanet]BBC propaganda

2005-03-17 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, I had intended to let you have the last word and to ignore your singularly inimitable drivel but you are in sore need of education even if you choose to dismiss what I say as bovine flatulence :-) You would profit from reading goanet posts

[Goanet]A sad tale of deadly environmental extremism

2005-03-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Rachel Carson, one of the deadliest of all the environmentalist extremists, is the person most responsible for using junk science to ban DDT, resulting in the resurgence of malaria and the deaths of millions of people each year, mostly in poor tropical countries. This is a critical review of her

Re: [Goanet]Cow dung becomes a cure-all in India 16/03/2005.

2005-03-16 Thread Mario Goveia
It seems like the BJP, aided and abetted by Eddie and Gabe, are determined to convince us of the beneficial effects of human and bovine excrement. This is far more information than I need for my health, but thank you, anyway, guys. --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Goanet]BBC propaganda

2005-03-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Eddie, actually it is the education that you should be thankful for. Blindly believing the BBC with its recent history of twisting the truth contributes to the ignorance and prejudices of Brits, and may make them feel superior to you Wogs or Pakis or whatever they are calling you these days, but

Re: [Goanet]RE: Santosh - VHP mentality?

2005-03-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the recent debates including the caste debate have religious overtones. One may call it a gimmick, holier-than-thou mindset or acute weakness to impose religious viewpoint. Mario replies: Hey, Avelino, how about the more basic concept of right

Re: [Goanet]Cow dung and urine, and more.

2005-03-16 Thread Mario Goveia
] wrote: From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enjoy your daily dose of Auto-Urine Therapy which sounds like drinking right from the source!!! A predictable Mario response! Cheers!! Eddie Fernandes London *** * G * O

Re: [Goanet]Cow dung and urine, and more.

2005-03-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cow urine story too has been doing the rounds for years. I had almost forgotten about the 10 page US patent 6410059 entitled Pharmaceutical composition containing cow urine distillate and an antibiotic. Mario replies: As I've said before give me

Re: [Goanet]Cow dung and urine, and more.

2005-03-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Eddie, Great non-answer which is typical when someone doesn't have anything useful to say. Enjoy your daily dose of Auto-Urine Therapy which sounds like drinking right from the source!!! --- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Why don't we let Mario work that out for himself.

RE: [Goanet]Re: Can you build within 500 metres of the high-tide line?

2005-03-15 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Nascimento, I wasn't giving you advice on anything. Just happy that you were not going to move back to Goa, that backwards place with utter failure and non-availability of essential services like uninterrupted power, water supply and decent transport.. The last thing they need is your

Re: [Goanet]Cow dung and urine, and more.

2005-03-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Eddie, Your article from 1996 said: Participants paid tribute to former Indian Prime Minister Morarji Desai, who stunned the world when he revealed that he drank a glass of his own urine every day. He died last year at the age of 99. My post said: By the way, you seem to have missed the fact

[Goanet]Jesuit magazine exposes Catholic castes in India

2005-03-14 Thread Mario Goveia
All Goanetters interested in the discussion on the diabolical caste system in India should get a copy of the Jesuit magazine, America, February 14, 2005 issue, and read the very current article on page 11 titled 'Dalit' means broken by John Francis Izzo, S.J. Unfortunately, because this is a

Re: [Goanet]Cow dung and urine, and more.

2005-03-14 Thread Mario Goveia
Gabe, Thanks for starting us off this week with this uplifting piece of information, which I'm sure we all really needed to know. Next you'll be telling us about the reluctance of the Brits to take a bath more than once a month, their penchant for wearing the same clothes until they literally

RE: [Goanet]Re: Can you build within 500 metres of the high-tide line?

2005-03-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I myself am not interested in retiring and or migrating back to Goa; since the utter failure and non availability of essential services like uninterrupted power, water supply and decent transport and the roads etc are yet to satisfy any one who has

[Goanet]Re: Goan Caste?

2005-03-13 Thread Mario Goveia
Dear Mr. or Ms. Meow, Meow (he, she or it as the case may be) At least you are consistent in your nonsense. You not only hide behind a fake identity on Goanet but also hide behind the presumed caste of your ancestors, demanding some advantages that your own personal achievements and character

RE: [Goanet]Can you build within 500 metres of the high-tide line?

2005-03-13 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the 'emergency' was imposed, I was in Calcutta, and I cried that democracy that Indians nurtured and thrived for 25 years then, had taken a back step thru the night! I also cried tears of Joy when in London I read that not only Indira's party

Re: [Goanet]Pros of caste and castacho and zat

2005-03-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, 1) I can show you an easy way to get your kids to clean thier rooms. This is NOT a free service. 2) I can also show you how to get your kids to marry whom you want. This is a free service. However, in the first place, you would have to have

Re: [Goanet]Pros of caste and castacho and zat

2005-03-11 Thread Mario Goveia
We must thank Cecil and Mervyn for working so hard to find some pros in the diabolical caste system among Catholic Goans. No wonder we cannot kill this many-headed, multi-beneficial monster. While some of us have been focusing on the abominable discrimination that the caste system represents and

RE: [Goanet]Can you build within 500 metres of the high-tide line?

2005-03-10 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Nascimento, Calm down, man. I have no intentions of weeping. Weeping never solves anything. Besides, India and Indians are far better off today than when I left 33 years ago for the New World. You seem to be looking at the Indian glass as half empty. India has many faults as all of us

Re: [Goanet]RE: Pros and Cons of caste

2005-03-10 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Avelino, Since you live in Kuwait, maybe you can tell us the pros and cons of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait in 1990, so we can see if it was good or bad for the Kuwaitis. Without knowing the pros and cons you say it is weightless, but I doubt anyone else knows what this version of weightless

Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-10 Thread Mario Goveia
to bite your bait. I was late to realize that the best medicine to deal with a sick person is to ignore the 'rave and rant' totally! Have a peaceful sleep with a well sharpened stake. Avelino Bastora/Kuwait Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D'Souza, Avelino

Re: [Goanet]Can you build within 500 metres of the high-tide line?

2005-03-09 Thread Mario Goveia
Fred, Good source of info. Thanks. I think the answer is that you can if a) you are able to buy a property that already has a pukka structure on it within the 500 metres that is grandfathered, which you can then improve. b) you are able to find a property that is classified to be on a river,

[Goanet]Taxi's and other aspects of India

2005-03-09 Thread Mario Goveia
David, It seems you have had some interesting experiences in India. I just got back from my annual month's trip to Mumbai, Goa and Pune, visiting friends and family, but I grew up with all this stuff and so I find it amusing after living in the US for over 30 years. They seem to sense that I'm

Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-09 Thread Mario Goveia
D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christianity existed in Goa much before the arrival of Portuguese. Mario replies: I know Christianity existed in Kerala before the Portuguese came to Goa, but not in Goa. Maybe other Goan historians can clarify Avelino's version that Christianity

Re: [Goanet]Caste System in Goa

2005-03-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Milad Meah Meah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caste System has nothing to do with Religion. System is 'System' = method of living Religion is 'Religion'= belief Mario replies: a) Why don't you have the guts to write under your own name instead of hiding behind a Spicy Pork Dish? What are you

Re: [Goanet]CASTE AND COLOUR AMONG GOANS

2005-03-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Sanny Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Goa Casteism still exist to the present time, but the debate on the internet doesn’t say anything of vital importance, such as, Why do we have these differences among us? Or how can we put an end to this? None wants to discuss this. Mario replies: Sanny,

Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-06 Thread Mario Goveia
--- D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, The caste system, in your own words, has been around 5,000 years. I think it does have legitimacy and respect from people who practice and who are keen in keeping it alive. On the other hand, you don't want to explain to me the pros and cons

Re: [Goanet]RE: Goan herrings research

2005-03-06 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi JC, Remember you guys are making the charge of 'soglem casteists'. But let me help you-all with the collection of data. I hope I can apply my methodical skills from my medical background. The accusation you guys seem to make is that there is:

Re: [Goanet]screw cast- show me the money!

2005-03-05 Thread Mario Goveia
a little bit of practice with the former :) Marlon --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Marlon, Where've you been, man? How's that baby? How do you like getting up at night, cleaning bottles and smelly little butts. It never stops. For 18 years at least. Only

Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-05 Thread Mario Goveia
cool, I love it! Avelino Bastora/Kuwait ___ Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Avelino, I have no patience for that approach because this has gone on far too long, I am in the third quarter of my life, a cancer survivor, and I am anxious to change at least a few minds

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify thems

2005-03-04 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Senhor Gouveia, In my childhood I lived in a Animal Farm. So it was social thinking from dawn to dusk. And when I got married there was no question of casta. I got married to Ms. Intelligence and Beautiful. I guess you Mumbai guys are more into

RE: [Goanet] Death of the Caste System -- Carlos

2005-03-04 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Carlos! the caste system will die fairly soon I agree with Carlos that the so-called caste system among some fake Goan Catholics, including some priests will perish soon as it has no foundation whatsoever. Mario cautions: Hey, Cip

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-03-04 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don´t you believe this hanky-panky anti-caste campaign. They are not dying for Christian love. Can't see it from from their language and rancorous tone. Mario muses sadly: I guess pointing out that the caste system is incompatible with

Re: [Goanet]Caste - Activism Karl Marx

2005-03-04 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Cecil, Question everything - Karl Marx Mario ruminates: I wish old Karl had taken his own advice.

Re: [Goanet]screw cast- show me the money!

2005-03-04 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Marlon, Where've you been, man? How's that baby? How do you like getting up at night, cleaning bottles and smelly little butts. It never stops. For 18 years at least. Only what you have to clean up changes. Those were the days! Make the most of it. I tend to agree with you about the

Re: [Goanet]RE: Goans and caste

2005-03-04 Thread Mario Goveia
Gilbert, Why do you give me such opportunities, which I cannot resist? As probably one of the most vociferous Anti-castists (I don't know who coined this name, but I like it) I say, with apologies to President Geoge W. Bush, You are either with us, or with the Pro-castists. What does someone in

Re: [Goanet]response to Cornel

2005-03-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Cornel: So be it. We fight battles in many different ways. I do not have the need to do battles to fit somebody's understanding of the battle. I do what I can to the best of my abilities, and not to meet anybody's expectation. If the way I choose to deal

Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Avelino, Since you seem determined to continue on this approach, let me spell it out for you as there may be others out there like you. We are talking about the caste system in this thread, not all of society's ills. The people's mindset, power and affluence may be in play here, but the demon in

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-03-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Nice try, Teotonio, but you seem determined to obfuscate the entire issue and put obstacles in the path of any progress by continuing to introduce notions that have no relevence to the issue of stamping out the caste system that I can see. In fact it caters to those that support this diabolical

Re: [Goanet]Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-01 Thread Mario Goveia
D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rationale of the debate is tricky to comprehend. Mario replies: Avelino, what about the fact that many of us want to abolish the diabolical caste system, starting with our own Goan Catholic community, do you find tricky to comprehend? I don't get

Re: [Goanet]Respect everyone?

2005-03-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Fred, Since you are playing devil's advocate, let me play angel's advocate. 1. Why is the mention of workers in the field versus Altinho residents biased in itself? Don't some people in Goa work in the fields and generally live in the villages, while others more affluent live in Altinho? Have

Re: [Goanet]Caste and all the cacophany: some thoughts

2005-03-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caste and all the cacophony: some thoughts My contribution to the battle against the caste: facilitate personal transformation. I only sow the seed; it is for the Lord to reap the fruits. I fully expect to be pilloried for what I have written. So be it. I may

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-03-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Gabriel, This is precisely the point I've been trying to make. However, it seems like it is taking a lot longer than I thought to sink in to the psyche's of some Goanetters. Some are attempting to deny that it even exists, and others think that ignoring it will make it go away. Bravo and amen

[Goanet]RE: Gilberto - Casters, anti-casters, herrings research

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
I can testify under oath that the Zuari and Mandovi flow through Goa, but I fully support an objective study of whether sati existed in India, and if it did, whwt percentage of women participated in it and whether it had any discernable impact on Indian society. Also, a second similar study on

[Goanet]Re: Casters, anti-casters research

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Gilbert, Having lived in Mumbai, I'm not sure how you can return repeatedly to the claim that Catholic Goan casteism is a case of mozem mauxi munta...ani tuzem samumai The psychological victims and family ruins of the caste system among Goan Catholics are hardly nebulous. They were all

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
world. With best wishes to you in your tanning programme. Teotonio R. de Souza -- Mario Goveia Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:25:26 -0800 I am trying hard to work on my tan in Goa, Pune and Mumbai, and to make a dent in the total

RE: [Goanet] Goans, Catholics Caste

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
] wrote: Dear Mario, As time goes by, education will get rid of it all. Ignore it and literally leave it alone. It works on its own and will fade away. You may go on if you have the time to waste. Jack. Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cip, Haven't you been reading my posts

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify their caste?

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
I am trying hard to work on my tan in Goa, Pune and Mumbai, and to make a dent in the total inventory of caju feni, cafreal, sorpotel and sannas, only to have my pleasant experiences tarnished by the continued attempt by a couple of Goanetters to obfuscate, deflect and dilute the diabolical issue

RE: [Goanet] Goans, Catholics Caste

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Cip, Haven't you been reading my posts? My specific goal is to expose this diabolical system and to encourage others to denounce it as well so that we can jointly drive a stake through the heart of this destructive system. --- Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antonio, What is the main

Re: [Goanet]Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-02-26 Thread Mario Goveia
Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With so much caste-noise broadcast on goanet, is it really a war against castes or a war of castes? Could each one writing on the theme indicate what caste he belongs to? It could help to filter the emotional ingredients of the debate. I am inclined

Re: [Goanet]Catholic Goans and caste

2005-02-26 Thread Mario Goveia
cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basilio, Many thanks for the clarification you provided. I will immediately accept, from you, that you cannot be rightly placed with Gilbert Lawrence as defending the indefensible on caste. However, I must say that your preference for dealing with caste among the

Re: [Goanet]Any other castes?

2005-02-26 Thread Mario Goveia
Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only once is Chardo mentioned. In all other cases Brahmins are made the scapegoats of the (highly exaggerated in my opinion) 'caste' problem among Goan Catholics. Aren't there any other castes? And strata within castes? I could be wrong here but is

[Goanet]Re: the Resurrection of Mario Goveia

2005-02-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any event, I notice that you have returned to your normal routine of spouting out lies. In the not too distant past, you were lying (a la Goebel et McCarthy) about other people. Your lying-self pasted all kinds of false tags upon other people. Tags

[Goanet]Re: Censorship via abuse - Do not do unto others...

2005-02-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was convinced that India was quite a democratic place. The following from Tehelka...does not make happy reading. Mario replies: I'm not sure why we are confusing Tehelka with democracy. Tehelka is all about exposing corruption, and would be unable to

Re: [Goanet]Abortion and the Church

2005-02-22 Thread Mario Goveia
Milad Meah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Church says NO ABORTION - what are they doing about it.!. Mario replies: I don't know about The Church or the Greeks but Mother Theresa's Sisters of Charity have a life-affirming approach to an unwanted pregnancy. They will help a young woman through

Re: [Goanet]Re: Goans and Caste

2005-02-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Being on vacation and blessedly losing the thread of this discussion, I am trying to figure out how a debate about the diabolical caste system and the obvious contradiction between this ancient social stratification of Hindu society and the teachings of Christ, who preached that all human beings

Re: [Goanet]Restoring email identities on Goanet posts

2005-02-12 Thread Mario Goveia
Mario Goveia writes: Fred, While I had a problem with the decision, I had an even bigger problem with HOW the decision was made - based apparently on ONE disgruntled Goanetter (?). As one of those who went ballistic over both the gratuitous change as well as the decisionmaking process, I'm glad

[Goanet]Re: [jose colaco] re: Censorship via abuse - 6

2005-02-12 Thread Mario Goveia
Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, please advise me where it is that I have said that the US, India and every other democracy is no different from a dictatorship Mario replies: Jose, I'm on vacation and don't have time for your passive aggressive verbal and mind games. The

Re: [Goanet]Re: Censorship via abuse - 2

2005-02-05 Thread Mario Goveia
. But abuse and censorship? Hardly, especially when compared to conditions in a dictatorship, regardless of whether it is right or left wing, where there are no opportunities for any recourse. Jose Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mario Goveia 1: governments in a democracy, by definition

Re: [Goanet]RE: Goans and Caste

2005-02-05 Thread Mario Goveia
Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cornel to Gilbert: On another point, I believe that you are inclined to suggest, or at least, desperately want to believe, that all this evil caste business was a thing of the past, and if prevalent at all today, it is limited to a few. So let me

Re: [Goanet]Re: A new form of Censorship - abuse - responding to Jose Colaco

2005-02-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Jose Colaco wrote: 2. 'Democracies' - the Government still decides on Licenses, Monopolies, Taxes, Violations, Contracts etc - Big Business buys entire chunks of the media. Media spouts official line . Media Owners often vie for multi-billion dollar contracts in other areas. Moneybags decide

Re: [Goanet] A new form of Censorship - abuse

2005-02-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Gilbert Menezes wrote: The next one to get such a rude mail is the guy who talks only about Iraq. Jose Colaco responded (excerpts only): If a person does not like the postings of another, he Abuses that person, right? And as an added benefit, he threatens the next person with Abusive mail,

Re: [Goanet] Friends

2005-02-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Afra Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They (friends) also make u sick - Mr Fernandes. Haven't u noticed it? Yet! Mario replies: What I have noticed is whether friends make you sick or better probably has more to do with your attitude than with theirs.

Fwd: Re: [Goanet]Re: Bad news for anti-Iraqis and anti-Americans

2005-02-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Previously sent on Sunday January 30, 2005 --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re: Bad news for anti-Iraqis and anti-Americans To: goanet@goanet.org George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED

Fwd: Re: [Goanet] U.S.A should be spreading freedom

2005-02-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Previously sent on Sat. Jan 29, 2005 --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:14:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] U.S.A should be spreading freedom To: goanet@goanet.org Mervyn Lobo wrote: Seems like everytime

Fwd: Re: [Goanet] The meaning of solidarity

2005-02-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Previously submitted on Sat. Jan 29, 2005 --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:05:59 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] The meaning of solidarity To: goanet@goanet.org Tariq Siddiqui wrote: When did Haroon bhai or I say

Re: [Goanet] Farenheit 911

2005-01-31 Thread Mario Goveia
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had the privilege of watching the movie(Fahrenheit 911)last night on our local T.V. It was a real eye opener,. There were 42 members of the Bin Laden family in the U.S. at the time of the destruction of the twin towers. They were allowed to leave

Re: [Goanet] Hate-filled anti-Iraqis

2005-01-30 Thread Mario Goveia
Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pay close attention to the line...When facts threaten true believers, they simply close their eyes and pray harder. Mario replies: I think the above quote describes you perfectly. It is my beliefs that are succeeding in Iraq, not yours. However, while

Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom

2005-01-30 Thread Mario Goveia
Tariq Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mervyn, Mario will respond by saying: Roy Hallums is a leftist anti-US, anti-Iraqi jihadist. He supports the Baathist insurgents. He probably faked his own kidnapping and the made the videotape himself. Mario replies: Tariq, I did not say any of what

Re: [Goanet]President Bush and I...

2005-01-30 Thread Mario Goveia
Cornel wrote: Thank you for your reply. I would definitely not wish to be associated with Blair, the ultimate poodle of George Bush, who in turn, I find utterly dispicable in terms of neocon logic. And incidentally, what's this about me living in grimy London? Mario responds: Cornel, it

Re: [Goanet]RE: news from Mess - o - potamia

2005-01-30 Thread Mario Goveia
jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Insurgents threatened a bloodbath on Sunday when Iraqis go to the polls in an election intended to unite the country and quell violence but which could instead foment sectarian strife. === jc comment Blogs aside, Let us pray that

[Goanet]Bad news for anti-Iraqis and anti-Americans

2005-01-29 Thread Mario Goveia
Quote of the day: On Sunday, the sun will rise on the land of Mesopotamia. I can't wait, the dream is becoming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart in it. -Mohammed (www.IraqTheModel.Blogspot.com)

Re: [Goanet]U.S.A should be spreading freedom

2005-01-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not asking for any help from President Bush because I know of his selfishness and unconcern to those who've been pushed into this hellhole. Roy Hallums, American being held hostage in Iraq. 25th Jan, 2005. Mario replies: Mervyn, I hope you never cross

Re: [Goanet] President Bush and I...

2005-01-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Cornel, look what you get me into. You try to pull my leg and the irascible Mr. Helekar takes the opportunity to jump into the deep end once again. Just today, in another post, the intrepid and irritable Mr. Helekar complains bitterly that I am abusing him, verbally of course. I patiently

Re: [Goanet] The meaning of solidarity

2005-01-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Tariq does not understand how those opposing the liberation of Iraq are in solidarity with the brutal Iraqi insurgents and are providing them with support. He very nicely asks me to take the time to explain how this works and I will be glad to do so. Mario patiently tries to explain: I thought

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