> We weren't really burned by using what we did but we did learn a
> lesson and I was hoping just to get feedback on others experiences.
>
> It seems that this wasn't the proper place.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I think this is definitely the
right place to talk about it.
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Thanks for the support everyone :)
> Showing some search results? Create a search
> result POJO and a searchResultWidget to match. It really doesn't get
> any easier. Because GWT so kindly works with the MVC paradigm, it's
> often very convenient the code the VIEW to match your MODEL (or vice
> v
Arthur,
Way to keep your cool against that flamer! Good, clear-headed advice.
All,
On our project we've integrated GWT with spring really nicely - and
I'd recommend this to anybody planning on creating a large project.
Makes unit testing a reality, and configuration a breeze.
We've thus far avoi
Arthur,
Arthur,
I actually find your input very helpful. I saw that you’ve been
criticized for posting it so… I wanted to thank you.
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When I asked the question originally I didn't mean to cause so much
contention. We started using gwt 8 months ago when the basic gwt
wasn't as complete and had only 8 months to get a working app up.
There were 3 developers and at the time it was difficult to understand
the pros and cons of the va
> All I can suggest you is : take a week or a few days, take the latest
> version of the library and see if the lib can help you (for me, it
> does, it just saves me a lot of time).
I agree completely. The best thing someone can do is to try it
themselves. Remember to make a relatively complex in
On 19 déc, 20:51, Pascal wrote:
> I think his advice are
> meant to be friendly advice and I do think a lot of people agree with
> them.
I don't. I use Ext GWT (aka gxt, previously MyGWT), which is a full
GWT library (no JSNI, no wrapping JS library), since April (2008) for
an internal applicat
Hi Sunit
The GWT team tries very hard to not introduce breaking changes to the
API, but in some cases it is necessary for progress.
Sometimes changes that are made (That aren't breaking changes to the
core GWT api) unintentionally effect third party libraries,
particularly ones that are wra
Rob,
I think numerous people have been bitten by the gwt-ext/ext-gwt/name
other third party library here. The first two I mentionned especially.
I am one of them. I think a lot of people think exactly the same way.
Personally, I think it's great thing that somebody takes time to warn
people agains
Hi,
I'm using gwt-mosaic in my project. It's really usefull for my development.
I like the layout managers, Widgets like WindowPanel (excelent - it's a
DialogBox with resizing and header manager). I choose the library because
it's pure gwt code (I agree in this point with Arthur)
Ale
On Fri, Dec
I have just started working on a prototype of our application using GWT.
Mike Shaffer, here on the list, has been very kind to help with some
questions I had about migrating a Struts/JSP UI to a GWT UI.
For now I am sticking with the standard GWT widgets. Maybe this is the wrong
thread to ask, but
Pointing users to the appropriate mailing list is absolutely the right
thing to do. Sumit already does a good job with this. It's when you
add your own unsolicited and biased spin when pointing to the forum
that I take issue with. Like library X has nothing to do with GWT and
I think they are real
Rob,
I forgot to mention, are you going to attack GWT developers like Sumit
Chandel that point GWT-ext and ExtGWT questions to those project's
respective mailing lists?
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Arthur Kalmenson
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Arthur Kalmenson
wrote:
> Rob,
>
>> There you go again sounding like
Rob,
> There you go again sounding like a broken record. You really are quite
> thick headed aren't you?
Perhaps instead of attacking _me_, you can point out where I'm wrong?
However, AFAIK they're still JSNI bindings and still don't work well
with regular GWT widgets or use the GWT event model.
Hi Dave,
gwt-ext and SmartGWT are wrappers of javascript libraries
(respectively ExtJS and SmartClient)
Ext GWT (aka gxt) and gwt-mosaic are pure GWT libraries (the former is
hosted by ExtJS guys and trying to get the same features as ExtJS,
that's why there is "Ext" in the name).
@Riyaz : I for
Thanks I will check out gwt-mosaic again. I tried it recently and it
couldn't be used because it was compiled with JRE 1.6, I tried
recompiling with 1.5 but ran into issues. Hopefully this will be
updated soon.
-Dave
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Arthur Kalmenson wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>>
There you go again sounding like a broken record. You really are quite
thick headed aren't you?
If you take pleasure in constantly dissing other libraries, I'll do
the same and reply to your every post saying that you are full of it.
Deal?
You might make yourself more useful if you try to answer
Hi Dave,
> I see you have put SmartGWT in the JS wrapper camp, is this the case?
> I haven't heard anything about this library before and had just
> stumbled across it.
SmartGWT is in fact a JS wrapper of the SmartCient JS library
(http://www.smartclient.com/)
> Do you have a web site (or somet
Arthur,
I see you have put SmartGWT in the JS wrapper camp, is this the case?
I haven't heard anything about this library before and had just
stumbled across it.
Do you have a web site (or something) where we can find out which GWT
libraries are pure GWT and okay to use?
IMHO, although I know y
> So you've assumed responsibility for being the GWT saviour by
> educating these developers and saving their project?
I'm not really assuming any responsibility, I'm just mentioning that
there are draw backs to using these libraries.
> What makes you so qualified?
I've had to abandon and rewr
Hi Riyaz,
Unfortunately, you cannot find all these features in one framework. As
Arthur said, there are some things in gwt-incubator. Some others are
in GWT-WL, GWT-SL, Ext GWT, gwt-ext, SmartGWT, etc...
Examples :
gwt-incubator : Logging
GWT-SL : Spring integration
Ext GWT (this is a lib I use
Arthur,
So you've assumed responsibility for being the GWT saviour by
educating these developers and saving their project? What makes you
so qualified? You've expressed your opinion (more than once) so why
not leave it at that. How would it appear if someone posted in
response to your every post
Arthur, I appreciate the info.
On Dec 18, 5:54 am, "Arthur Kalmenson" wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> Judging from cloudcity's response, not everyone is aware of the draw
> backs of these libraries (or, as you put it, my position on them).
> Ignoring an issue is not going to make it go away. I'm letting pe
Hi Rob,
Judging from cloudcity's response, not everyone is aware of the draw
backs of these libraries (or, as you put it, my position on them).
Ignoring an issue is not going to make it go away. I'm letting people
know what the draw backs of using these libraries are, because a lot
of people are
> Not on topic for this thread but Curious about why you would not use
> ExtGWT or SmartGWT. We started using gwt-ext 8 months ago and are
> wanting to phase it out - buggy and poor performance are the primary
> reasons.
That's exactly why. I stay within vanilla GWT and some of the better
incuba
Did anyone ask you opinion on use of third part libs in this thread.
We know what your position is on using 3rd party libs and you have
made it clear "numerous" times. Repeating the same thing again and
again is just adding noise to this group. Gmail has a wonderful filter
option and you can set y
Not on topic for this thread but Curious about why you would not use
ExtGWT or SmartGWT. We started using gwt-ext 8 months ago and are
wanting to phase it out - buggy and poor performance are the primary
reasons.
On Dec 17, 12:34 pm, "Arthur Kalmenson" wrote:
> I'm hoping that a lot of those th
I'm hoping that a lot of those things will be added to the incubator
in the near future. I've mentioned the request for simpler security
similar to Spring Security's @Secured("ROLE_USER") annotations. Data
binding and validation frameworks are on their way as well, in the
near future.
I would sta
This does bring up a good point and something that is sourly missing.
We have cobbled together some very generic type stuff patterned
(albeit very low in quality) what we used extensively in Eclipse Rich
Client. Maybe the ExtGWT guys or SmartGWT will come up with
something. Or if the Eclipse Web
There are some things in the incubator for status bars and logging.
The rest you would have to do yourself.
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Arthur Kalmenson
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Riyaz Mansoor wrote:
>
>
> I'm not looking for rich widget sets (Ext, Smart, etc) but rather is
> there a GWT framework that provide
I'm not looking for rich widget sets (Ext, Smart, etc) but rather is
there a GWT framework that provides basics for a RIA. One that handles
the grunt work such as providing; status bar, xml or other
configurable menu, error logging report, authentication, security etc
This maybe reaching for the
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