[h-cost] odd question about toille draping

2005-11-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hello, I hope somebody can help me a little. I am draping the toille of the sack backed yellow chenille dress. Then i have a little problem with the sleave fitting. Is it ok that my armscye overlaps the shoulderstraps of the stays at the top? I might have made the shoulderstraps two wide at the

Re: [h-cost] Searching for a photo

2005-11-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 03:04 09/11/2005, you wrote: Greetings once again, I have come across a nifty little photo, but it doesn't show the object in question either in total, or large enough. http://www.ntpl.org.uk/zooms/103/103281.bro Is what I can find for The Garter of Maximilian I, King of the

Re: [h-cost] odd question about toille draping

2005-11-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 10:05 09/11/2005, you wrote: Hello, I hope somebody can help me a little. I am draping the toille of the sack backed yellow chenille dress. Then i have a little problem with the sleave fitting. Is it ok that my armscye overlaps the shoulderstraps of the stays at the top? I might have made

Re: [h-cost] 17th beaded bodice

2005-11-09 Thread WickedFrau
So far, nothing back from either the ministry or the costume society! I'll keep everyone posted. Max Callahan wrote: Good idea, Bjarne, I hadn't thought about that... okay after looking at their site, I didn't see any information about it. Maybe Saragrace's inquiries will bear fruit. I've

Re: [h-cost] odd question about toille draping

2005-11-09 Thread WickedFrau
Is this a fashion question (i.e. does it make the silhouette wrong?) Not sure I am following you completely, but you you are talking about the edge of the armscye towards the sleeve (correct?). By over lapping you mean that the cut of the armscye is so deep that (when the sleeve is not

Fwd: Re: Fwd: [h-cost] NESAT 6 available

2005-11-09 Thread Chris
FYI all :) Beth, thanks so much for this information! If my calculations are correct, the total for book/shipping is $38 Chris G. Lena Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:26:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Fwd: [h-cost] NESAT 6 available From: Lena Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [h-cost] O.T. traveling to Montreal

2005-11-09 Thread Edith Reardon
Oh you lucky girl! I couldn't believe the selection of fabric available. Some of the shops reminded me of chinatown shops everything stacked as high as possible. First time I bought fabric by the pound very interesting. I didn't get rid of my stash before I went so I couldn't buy much. I can

Re: [h-cost] O.T. traveling to Montreal

2005-11-09 Thread Edith Reardon
So you don't have to search forever try this and I seem to have mislaid the one for Quebec tourism. http://www.tourisme-montreal.org/B2C/00/default.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1 Edith Jeanine E. Swick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be in Montreal the week following Thanksgiving. What would be some

Re: [h-cost] O.T. traveling to Montreal

2005-11-09 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
Hi, If you want costumes, the McCord Museum will probably be your best bet. http://www.mccord-museum.qc.ca/en/. Check their online catalog as well. A little hard to navigate, but they have many amazing items and they're not all on display, at least not all at the same time. The

Re: [h-cost] odd question about toille draping

2005-11-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Dear Saragrace, Albertcat, understood it right, its my armscye of the bodice wich are bigger than the armscye in the stays. It wont show when the bodice covers the stays, do you get it? Bjarne - Original Message - From: WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] O.T. traveling to Montreal

2005-11-09 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
Hi, it's me again, Of course, most of the references I gave are in the Eastern Montreal. Not that we don't mix up with the other side, just that it's far enough that stores just don't have the same clients. http://www.montrealmirror.com/ARCHIVES/2002/assg/assg5.html That's a great link

Re: [h-cost] odd question about toille draping

2005-11-09 Thread WickedFrau
Rats, I guess I was hoping for something more difficult! Yes, I think I get it now. I would not worry about this situation. I would worry if the situation were reversed, i.e. the dress armscye were smaller than the stays because you can get some fleshy lumps and bumps sometimes. Bjarne

[h-cost] scalloped sleave ruffles

2005-11-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi again, Forgive that i have another question. I want to make the sleave ruffles of the yellow dress with scalloped edges. I dont have pinking tools, and i just want to cut it with ordinary scissors. How could i make the edge of this, so it wont fray? Should i make buttonhole stitches? I want

Re: [h-cost] scalloped sleave ruffles

2005-11-09 Thread WickedFrau
What little I know of these styles, they did use raw edges on the scallops right? You don't have a set of pinking shears? You can also apply a very light coat of fray check with a micro brush. I will try to find a link of all these things is you don't have them over there. Sg

Re: Fwd: [h-cost] NESAT 6 available

2005-11-09 Thread Chris
Ah, VERY good to know. I'll send her another 'e' for her address. Thanks again Beth! Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lena is excellent to deal with and very helpful. The price and shipping for NESAT 6 is quite reasonable. and arrived VERY quickly. There is only one minor problem

[h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
The quote below is the earliest dating that I have heard for knitting and crochet in Northern Europe. Can anyone confirm or deny using other archaeological sources? There is, of course, the possibility of translation error in the article and that they are referring to naalbinding or some other

[h-cost] Re: Searching for a photo

2005-11-09 Thread Kathy Page
This one is blue silk, what looks like grosgrain with silver gilt thread embroidery, gold buckle and enamelled Tudor roses in place where your crosses would be. This is the oldest known surviving Garter from that Order. Apparently it was sent by the King of England to Maximilian to confirm his

Re: [h-cost] O.T. traveling to Montreal

2005-11-09 Thread Edith Reardon
Most of my husbands family lives in Eastern Montreal and that is where he used to live. You have such a choice of fabrics at wonderful prices. We have a Fabricland and Walmart for a population 100,000 people. Vancouver has about the same selection except for little india. I buy most of my

Re: [h-cost] odd question about toille draping

2005-11-09 Thread Carol Kocian
As long as there are no strange bumps or ridges, it doesn't matter. I'm reminded of the construction of some originals - rather than setting the sleeve into an armscye, it seems that the sleeve tops are eased into place and then the strap or robings are applied on top of them. So

Re: [h-cost] CCs

2005-11-09 Thread Dawn
Karen Heim wrote: As a member of the CC25 committee, let me answer your question by stating: there is not, nor is there ever, a theme of the contest. I'll explain in further detail. Karen, Info on the web site is a little thin. Can you tell me what the con weapon policy is (costume

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
were crochetted with a small bone needle. Crochet cannot be done with any kind of needle. Sorry, but your source must have been written by someone who doesn't know knit from crochet. CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian www.FunStuft.com

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Lavolta Press
I've seen the term crochet needle in English-language 19th-century crochet instructions, as a synonym for crochet hook. BTW I also just came across an early 19th-century reference to knitting wires, for stockings, which I believe just means fine knitting needles. While I'm all in favor of

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Caroline. Perhaps its the translation. In Denmark wich is part of Scandinavia and Finland, a croched hook is called a croched needle. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09,

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
I've seen the term crochet needle in English-language 19th-century crochet instructions, as a synonym for crochet hook. were crochetted with a small bone needle. Crochet cannot be done with any kind of needle. Sorry, but your source must have been written by someone who doesn't know knit

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Sorry i misspelled your name, i ment off cause Carolyn. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] scalloped sleave ruffles

2005-11-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Dear Saragrace, Perhaps this would be a good idea. Ill try to ask in my shops if they have this stuff over here. I am most conserned because i want to apply (embroider on) some chenille flowers on the edge, and i am afraid if they will run out But it would be the best solution to do, for

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Lavolta Press
Maybe, but there is no way to know the writer is wrong, without seeing the textile or a close-up illustration. Fran Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: I didn't like how the source lumped knitting and crochet together under the same name of implement and in the same phrase, hence my reaction.

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
Yes, but crochet needles usually are very, very fine and pointy. That's what they use for tambour work, because they need to pierece through fabric. Not at all like like the ones we use for crocheting. The problem here is that we're dealing with a translation, not with an evolution of

[h-cost] Question for leather dyers

2005-11-09 Thread Lavolta Press
OK, so I bought a leather handbag with very attractive (but not super deep) tooling all over it. This was from a discount source that does not accept returns. The picture on the website showed a darkish-reddish-brown bag with a cooked-artichoke-green strap, outer pocket, and piping on the

[h-cost] Fraycheck, microbrushes and Pinking shears: Was: scalloped sleave ruffles

2005-11-09 Thread WickedFrau
Microbrush picture: http://www.internettrains.com/micdisap.html A Netherlands dealer: http://www.americanho.com/http://www.americanho.com http://www.americanho.com/ (Believe it or not!) A picture of Pinking Shears

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Lavolta Press
It's always preferable to reserve judgment about the validity of everything in every text, but without ever having an agenda of proving anyone wrong. That's what objectivity is. Anyway, a picture might not show everything one needs to know but without it one knows even less. Fran Lavolta

Re: [h-cost] scalloped sleave ruffles

2005-11-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 19:39 09/11/2005, you wrote: Dear Saragrace, Perhaps this would be a good idea. Ill try to ask in my shops if they have this stuff over here. I am most conserned because i want to apply (embroider on) some chenille flowers on the edge, and i am afraid if they will run out But it would be

Re: [h-cost] Question for leather dyers

2005-11-09 Thread lauren . walker
Fran wrote: Finally, it looks like I shouldn't have trouble buying some kind of reddish brown dye. But the grayish green looks problematic. Any suggestions? When my late brother was doing leather work professionally, green was the hardest color to use and control. You know how the 18th

Re: [h-cost] O.T. traveling to Montreal

2005-11-09 Thread Jeanine E. Swick
Guess I should have said the U.S. Thanksgiving, I know Canada's is in Oct., but didn't think of that when I posted. We'll be there from Nov. 26 to Dec. 3rd. My husband has a conference there and I'm going along to play tourist. I should be able to navigate the Metro there even though I

[h-cost] Elvis

2005-11-09 Thread Wendy
I got a request from an Elvis impersonator to make him the '68 leather jacket (young sexy Elvis not fat, dead on the toilet, Elvis). I don't have the time to draft a pattern and haven't been able to find anything appropriate at Fabricland (Butterick and friends seem to think men would be

Re: [h-cost] Elvis

2005-11-09 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 11/9/2005 5:12:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't have the time to draft a pattern and haven't been able to find anything appropriate at Fabricland (Butterick and friends seem to think men would be better both naked). Any suggestions?

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: There is quite possibly a translation problem as English is not the author's native language. The question lies in the terms crochet and needle, after all, knitting needles don't have holes in them either! The possibility exists that the term

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Sorry i misspelled your name, i ment off cause Carolyn. No problem. I probably didn't even notice it was supposed to be me. I usually go by Kayta, or Käthe. CarolynKayta Barrows dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian www.FunStuft.com \\\

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Sorry, the source makes it obvious that they know knit from crochet.. and that they make it clear that they are talking about two different techniques. This is the NESAT (Northern European Society of Archaeological Textiles). This is a peer reviewed scholarly journal... they are extremely

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Yes, but crochet needles usually are very, very fine and pointy. Please say hooks. That's what they use for tambour work, because they need to pierece through fabric. Not at all like like the ones we use for crocheting. Yes, actually, the two tools are pretty much interchangeable. And

Re: [h-cost] scalloped sleave ruffles

2005-11-09 Thread Kitty Felton
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hi again, Forgive that i have another question. I want to make the sleave ruffles of the yellow dress with scalloped edges. I dont have pinking tools, and i just want to cut it with ordinary scissors. How could i make the edge of this, so it wont fray? Should i make

Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet

2005-11-09 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Wednesday 09 November 2005 5:49 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: Sorry, the source makes it obvious that they know knit from crochet.. and that they make it clear that they are talking about two different techniques. This is the NESAT (Northern European Society of Archaeological Textiles).

RE: [h-cost] Hello/ questions

2005-11-09 Thread otsisto
Perhaps this? http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/patterns/german.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 716

2005-11-09 Thread Pierre Sandy Pettinger
Fran, Also try: www.tandyleather.com They are a U.S. company - the cosplay site is Canadian, so shipping might be an issue (I'm assuming you're in the U.S.). You will need to use a deglazer (page 2 of dyes on the Tandy site) before dyeing - otherwise the dye will only sit on the surface and

[h-cost] Looping the Loop (please forward)

2005-11-09 Thread Marc Carlson
A friend asked me to help pass this around the net. ‘LOOPING THE LOOPS’, RESEARCH BY THE EARLY KNITTING HISTORY GROUP Saturday, 11th March, 2006. at The Courtauld Institute of Art Somerset House, Strand, London, WC2. Following its former successes the Early

[h-cost] Elvis OT-ish

2005-11-09 Thread stilskin
I got a request from an Elvis impersonator One of my pro-wrestler clients was taken to the hospital with a suspected broken rib a few weeks back. In the next cubical was an Elvis with a broken arm and his wig hanging floppily over the edge of the stretcher. Just thought I'd add that for no

Re: [h-cost] Looping the Loop (please forward)

2005-11-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 05:24 10/11/2005, you wrote: A friend asked me to help pass this around the net. 'LOOPING THE LOOPS', RESEARCH BY THE EARLY KNITTING HISTORY GROUP Saturday, 11th March, 2006. at The Courtauld Institute of Art Somerset House, Strand, London, WC2. Following