it is one of those
situations where they had gowns designed to
be
identical? Princess Alexandra of Wales (mother of Maud)?and G.D. Maria
Feodorovna of Russia (aka Dagmar of Denmark)?did that even as adults, but
they
were sisters.
____
From: R Lloyd Mitchell
To: Historical C
This gown is quite interesting. On one of the photo sites it is shown being
worn by the Queen of Spain (Maud's cousin). I contacted the V&A and they were
aware of the second model but have no idea as to whether it was the same gown
from Worth (With minor additions) or a second etition.It seems a
icrosites/1333_styleandsplendour/wardrobe/wardrobe1.html
>
> <http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1333_styleandsplendour/wardrobe/wardrobe1.html
> >Wow
> - what a figure that woman had!
>
> Sg
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:09 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell <
> rmitch...@staff
I?am ernestly hoping to see if I can get some of this work up on line...not my
forte but maybe with some help from a techie.
I had an exhibit "Cut Down To Size 2"at a small gallery the month of December.?
"...Size" was two years ago.? This recent show included the models who wear
garments from t
New year project: Finally have the stash and will to try an interpretation of
Queen Maud of Norway's coronation gown, (Style and Splendor).? The model is
17". Had a lot of trouble trying to find suitable fabric for the project.? I
finally found a gold on gold embroidered dupioni that was in sca
Don't know about how folk regain their needles lost (Horrors Mrs. Antrobus!!)
but I performed the yearly exercise of searching all my pincushions for
misplaced or needles in hiding.? Searching "5", guess the Harvest is about 5/6
dozen steels reclaimed.! Yarn, sharps,beading, upholstery, sails, e
How unusual! I have a handful of doilies and runners with a green and/or red
theme that I use, but nothein as grand as this!
Kathleen
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Sent 12/2/2010 4:35:09 AM
To: "h-costume"
Subject: [h-cost] OT: Christmas DecorationsOFF TOPIC
This might not be historic or vint
Ah Penny, this is one of my favorite scripts for "Elizabeth"? It was clearly a
propaganda piece for ww2 Brits. the curious thing is to see what "Scarlet
O'Hara" was doing when she wasn't on the "Tara set". Costumes were by a (then)
famous costume designer in the age when contemporary aesthetics
New book out (at least to me)
Just received my copy of "Jane Austin's Sewing Box" and am going to love this
one. The author as combined references from the novels regarding
fashion-sewing-other social comments with instructions for recreating handwork
of the Period.? Loverly photos and good inst
In the Dec. issue of Piece Work?there is a pic of a spool holder that answers
the question of "what is it."I have two of these; Thread Holder comes close to
what I thought the item was.? Still not sure how it might have been used on the
early 20th C. work table.? (June 2010 discussion?)
love their fabrics and service.? The 'burnouts' are fab.?
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From: "Laurie Taylor"
Sent 10/18/2010 4:43:26 PM
To: "'Historical Costume'"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric - was: Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600Hey,
thanks for the Dharma links. I always get in trouble wit
l me anything, but the descriptions sounded interesting and they
are sending me a swatch set. Got my fingers crossed!
Laurie
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of R Lloyd Mitchell
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:57 AM
To
me-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of R Lloyd Mitchell
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:08 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric - was: Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600
The DEVA co., (W) uses a contemporary version of 100% cotton?feed-sack for
s
If the fit is tight, this works especially well: again, dealing with the
tension problem.
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From:
Sent 10/18/2010 9:54:04 AM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Hooks & bars problemDon't know if it would help for this
particular problem, but how about alternati
The DEVA co., (W) uses a contemporary version of 100% cotton?feed-sack for some
of their shirts. There are at least 3 styles that are "usable" for re-inactors
of the 18th and 19th time periods...especially if one has to wear such for
every day events. I have used them for years...especially for
When you are setting the hooks, do you recess them about 1/2" from the edge?
Also do you sew the bar part of the hook up to the curve of said hook?? This
helps to keep the hook from moving forward under stress. I set the opposite
catch piece (bar, or thread) about 1/4" in top of the edge for a s
May I suggest that you might start with the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) for
the costume nomen. This presentation makes great clarity at least to me as the
major explanation of the difference between historical garmentents and context
with the history that they are trying to represent.
Kathle
-Original Message-From: "Beteena Paradise"
Sent 8/19/2010 10:39:33 AMTo: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] finding bolo tipsjewelrysupply.com
has smaller ones (28mm - a bit over an inch) for $2.26 fo
r a
pack of 10 (silver only). They have had other styles but seem to be out at
you have a link or a photo or diagram of your hoops from that
period, so I could see what the configuration is, that they would fold up
so easily to sit down?
Yours in costuming, Lis aA
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:21:38 GMT "R Lloyd Mitchell"
writes:
> One thing about period hoops is t
d for ball gowns were very round and wide; were the hoops that
might be worn at home narrower or different?
And do you have a link or a photo or diagram of your hoops from that
period, so I could see what the configuration is, that they would fold up
so easily to sit down?
Yours in costuming, Lis aA
On Tue
One thing about period hoops is that they fold gracefully when you sit; no
pop-up or sticking out.? I have my great-grandmother's set and people have been
amazed at how flexible they actually are. The shape is elipticle and length
about 36" from the waist.
kathleen
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Fro
My nineteenth dC dresses have buttons or hooks and eyes, center front.? One has
a left side closure with HandE.? Middle class women of the ordinary sort?often
could not count on help getting dressed and so front closures were independence.
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From: "Lisa A Ashton"
Sent 6
I know there is a fashion idea of Cheap chic, but I think this particulaly is
more akin to the bordello or boudoir...even if they show the portential of a
Sport line. The last time around (70's/80's) the theme seemed to be in to the
re-use or reclaimed clothing mode.
Found myself wondering what
WOW! Doilies indeed...how ever did you find 'this'?
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From: "Lavolta Press"
Sent 5/21/2010 8:24:26 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Finally, someone has figured out how to repurpose
doilieshttp://www.magnoliapearl.com/shop/clothing/clothing-gallery3.htmhttp://
tume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brocade and Fair Usegalities
On 5/13/2010 8:08 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote:
> Coming late into this discussion, I have found myself wondering about how
> commercial companies
(say Waverly) go about reproducing fabrics from the historical perspective
(
Such clarity. Your thoughtful explanation is of great interest to me...one of
those independents who strives to do Art with originality as well as craft. The
laws that have been developed are suppose to be safe=guards...
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From: "Elena House"
Sent 5/13/2010 12:04:48 PM
T
burg
and Mount Vernon, and, I think, Historic Charleston lines, as well.) They may
be exact copies, or modifications, and are often produced in several colorways.
This is probably all spelled out in said licensing agreement.
Ann Wass
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From: R Lloyd Mitchell
To: His
Coming late into this discussion, I have found myself wondering about how
commercial companies (say Waverly) go about reproducing fabrics from the
historical perspective (say Winterthur or Williamsburg). Permission to copy??
Permission to sell? Historical houses seem to go the reproduction metho
How Lovely!
Kathleen, who is always shopping for Queen Maud
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From: "Melanie Schuessler"
Sent 5/8/2010 9:36:37 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: [h-cost] printed reproduction of early 15th-century fabricA textile
company in Sweden has recreated the fabric of the extan
I use a ziz-zag (two rows) and cut the line between for sweaters or other
knitted items. I have become somewhat adept in unpicking high neck/cowls from
necklines or other areas where the seam is sewn or applied.? Tedious to be
sure, but doable,
Kathleen
-Original Message-
From: "Lavolta
I assume that you mean Bibliography and not a "bib" garment piece. it will come
later...Kathleen
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From: "Sharon Doig"
Sent 4/21/2010 7:15:22 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] References to silk ribbon embroidery for clothing in regency
tim...Dear Kathleen,
I
I cruised several books and museum catalogues this Am for trimming a spencer;
found no exact match but Nora Waugh makes mention of fabrics and trims for the
1810/28 period.? These include the continued use of raised and flat
embroideries coming into this time frame.? Whereas they had been princ
I love the cabbage gown!!
Kathleen
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From: "Kim Baird"
Sent 4/19/2010 10:13:14 PM
To: "'Historical Costume'"
Subject: [h-cost] lovely costume photos
Check out these costumes by Nicole Dextras-made of some unusual materials!
http://www.nicoledextras.com/ephemeralart/weeds/
I do a fair ammount of embroidery-mending all the time.? Last fall I re cut and
designed a long sweater vest, starting out at the goodwill with an oversized
sweater (dress?).? I have been perusing the Art to Wear (Ausralia) again, and
my mind is working on something that will include 'found' ga
The Kyoto book does show a gown (pp42/3) that I think comes close.? It
certainly has raised embroidery, some of which could be ribbon.? Some of you
might remember that Bjarne was working on this gown, the last time we heard
from him. In the same volume (pp180/1) there is a reticule that also fe
;t
see how the second object might be
used. A pic would help.
== Marjorie Wilser
=:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:
"Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW
http://3toad.blogspot.com/
On Apr 14, 2010, at 6:33 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote:
> I have the piece y
a repro of something from that time. You were supposed
to catch the ends of your hair between the two halves and then roll it
up. I never could make it work properly.
Margo
On Apr 5, 2010, at 6:32 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote:
>
> Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to s
Can you describe the pants you are seeking? I have access to several types from
that clime.
kathleen
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From: "Cascio Michael"
Sent 4/9/2010 8:26:55 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Costume magazine article wantedHi Everyone,
??? As it has now hit over 80
Appologies to the list.? Do not know why most of my messages send up with not
so creative punctuation.? It is not in the original.
Ann, when are you attending the exhibit?
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From:
Sent 4/7/2010 3:49:19 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] shippensburg exhibit
I just received my catalogues from the Shippensburg U 19th c. Exhibit.? Very
well done; hope?I can see the show while it is still up! Nice to see this
quality of fashion and provenance of Pa and borders.
Kathleen
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Wow!? This would answer for mine.? Could also be used to stabilize crochet
balls.
kathleen?
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From: "otsisto"
Sent 4/5/2010 9:15:23 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Unidenitified objectIt may not be the same thing but I
have seen something similar to i
I have one of these, also.? Mine is white plastic; the shape varies slightly.?
The outer piece is shaped like a racketball/tennis racket (without handle) and
the inner piece is more triangular (heart?), split at the top with daggard
tips. The out rim is?3 1/2", inner: 2 1/2".? It is the only uni
She is a beauty!?I love the corsarge detail.
kathleen
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From: "Penny Ladnier"
Sent 4/2/2010 3:19:11 AM
To: "h-costume"
Subject: [h-cost] Look at this photoI came across a tinted ambrotype on ebay
today, auction #380218819142. She is beautiful!
Penny Ladnier
Owner, The C
I used to have a couple of jodpurs and one set buttoned of the left side the
other buttoned of both sides, One had zippers at calf length and the other had
5 buttons (calf) All the ones I have seen were?wool, twill weave.?
-Original Message-
From:
Sent 3/31/2010 7:07:18 PM
To: "Historic
How about four centuries of costume quotations...not likely Victorian!!
Kathleen
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From:
Sent 3/9/2010 6:39:14 PM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] victorian gown?>
http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m6097-products-10908.php?page_id=96
>
> Is any part of this d
My 'guy' is AlCid His most recent outing was to do battle at the Heart Fund
Ball modeling the Andy Worhal Cambell Soup Tee!
Kathleen
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From: "Cin"
Sent 3/3/2010 2:29:04 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] What to name a dressmaker's dummyKathy,
Here's a project I
The Dummy that is dressed is Maud's, (but we won't tell, because the gown isn't
hers).? I had a request from the Empress Carlota and? so the sewing basket is
filled with goodies of antique blue polished cotton, white dimity, tiny blue
fringe and wonderful black Chantilly lace. The patterns are
All four all seem to be engaged in the same activity and one has a frame. The
product reminds me of some of the present fancy chenilles.
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From: "otsisto"
Sent 2/14/2010 6:12:07 PM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] What is this woman making?
-Original Me
I had a number of 'dolmans' from the 1930/40s in my vintage collection. Do we
assume the ones in hand were personal garments worn by you and come with
memories? I think there was a fad more recently, perhaps the '80s?
-Original Message-
From: "Sheridan Alder"
Sent 2/12/2010 10:29:25 PM
T
One on, and one for the cleaners?
Kathleen
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From: "Deredere Galbraith"
Sent 2/13/2010 3:02:43 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dating a couple garmentsI can't help you with the dating
but I had a good laugh reading your title.
Was thinking of Valentine.
Well, we just got back into our house in WashPa after 6 days without power.? We
stuck it out until Monday past when we sat at the breakfast table in 33os. The
gas stove and fireplace were OK to start but the romance got to be old real
fast.? Hope you other folk out there a somewhat prepared. I h
Sorry fora all the ?!!! my computer seems to have a mind of its own.
KSM
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From: "R Lloyd Mitchell"
Sent 1/27/2010 9:23:20 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] mending by embroideryThanks for this explanation, Fran.?
Your info tells th
Thanks for this explanation, Fran.? Your info tells the story for the 19th/20th
Centuries which mirrors the evidence I have seen for myself. My larger question
was how these mending methods might have been used in earlier times than the
visable present.? Understanding that textiles were often le
For some time now, I have been repairing wearable textiles which have been
damaged by moth or bleach using a variety of embroidery to make the damage
decorative. I am aware that some of the "hippy" style used this same technique
and that there was an elaborate mending process in the 19th century
Penny, I have the "Lace" book if this would be of use to you. In researching
images for dressing my Victoria doll, I found lots of photos at webshots and
elsewhere.? I of course do not know what the copy wright issues are.
Looking forward to the film..
Kathleen
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From: "
This would be my take. too.? I manage to aquire a lot of 'linen' ready-mades;
most of which are labeled dry'clean only' and washing by hand in cold water
with woolite does just fine.? I also agree that it is the unknown content?of
the linings, facings, trim and etc that may alter the return to '
I guess what we remember of these machines is that they were not Toys.??Many
modern day kids seem to think that any thing that has moving parts invite an
interactive response and it is Their turn.
As a pre-schooler, I actually got to try ironing with a flatiron..fresh from
the big black stove. T
Penny, I am not sure of the neckline but it may mean a slight 'V" with attached
fabric collar (recollection of F?tennis players of that time period.)? The d-b
reffers to Double breasted jacket.
Kathleen? ___
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Opps in sending the former statement.
A mangle is a rotaty iron usually used for household linens; ?a wringer? ?was
part of the washing machine.? It was mounted on the tub frame for laundry (19th
century).? When electricity came into practicle use, the machine for washing
clothes was motorized a
Mangle is a rotary iron usually used for table linens and other 'flat' items.?
A Wringer
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From: "julian wilson"
Sent 1/17/2010 6:26:32 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing
error"On Sun, 17/1/10, Cha
And then there was Bailey's Beach at Newport, RI where men 'bathed' in the
Buff!? Women, of course had another section of the beach where they changed
from street ensembles to bathing attire in bathing wagons (think gypsey) which
hauled them into waist high water.
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From
For a family picture two years ago, I found 'bike' style knit?underwear for the
men(striped) in Penny's catalogue.? To these, we used black knit muscle shirts
for the top.?This worked really well.
? The antique onsie is usually black wool knit with a buttcover length top that
is attached to the
I concur re late 20s for date.? I believe you can see one like this in the
Dover S&R reprint catalogue for the Twenties.
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From: "SPaterson"
Sent 11/9/2009 7:49:59 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this magazine cover?Further research has me
I made one like this using a highend lace piece for the cap.? it came out
looking like a real antique.
ksm
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From: "Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A."
Sent 11/9/2009 7:51:40 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this magazine cover?It looks like my
Is there a pillbox form underneath? This looks to be of a similar time as the
Phillipine gown.? If you check it against some os the add photos in the
magazines I gave you, you will see its sisters being shown with suits or
cocktail dresses.
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From: "Penny Ladnier"
Sent
Penny, my date take on the gown would be late 50's early 60's.? Someone has
already identified the sleeve as typical traditional Phillipines style.? It is
a style that shows up even today for formal ethnic wear.? The beading pattern
is also right for this period.? In my past Collection, there wa
A trick I learned from my home-service Sears man was to get a sample carpet
piece to go under the machine; it helps a lot with the 'travel bounce'. My
Beloved Kenmore of 22 years was all steel... and heavy to boot ... and
sometimes would shift under the stress of the project in hand.
I love my P
The Wilcox book along with Yarwood and one or two others of the 50's/60's were
the very images that sent me to the research point of re-discovering the wealth
of period detail in paintings and portraits...sort of like getting kicked off
the diving board.It was kind of fun taking their drawings a
If you are doing historical costume in the time period of this book, it is
interesting to see ancient dress from the vintage point of view of "History".
Recreating h-costume? for theater productions such as "You Can't take it with
You" or maybe "One Touch of Venus" may require designs that are m
Audrey, I have had good luck in the past using Denverfabrics.com.? However they
do not always have the same furs. The last time I needed some I googled faux
fur/fake fur/long hair fur. One can find some of the highend stuff in a random
search.
Kathleen
-Original Message-
From: "Audrey Be
Wow, what a beauty.? Thanks for the heads up
Kathleen
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From: "Ruth Anne Baumgartner"
Sent 9/23/2009 10:00:36 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: [h-cost] Amazing textile in today's New York TimesFascinating article,
stunning photos:http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/art
The one punchline re RL's gown and hat was that the cost was half the
price...which at the time amounted to about $20.!! (1979) When he became head
marshall in 1998. I ordered him a new gown which took about 6 weeks.
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From:
Sent 4/18/2009 4:30:04 AM
To: h-cost...@indra.
My husband's favorite tale is one of showing up at the stated bookstore to sing
up for the rental gown at xxxfee and the salesman took him aside and said "I
don't want to disuade you from getting a new one, but if you step over here,
you might change your mind." (The old bate and switch) The '
make their own honorific statement.
Kathleen
-Original Message-
From: "Susan Farmer"
Sent 4/15/2009 8:45:48 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic HoodsQuoting R Lloyd Mitchell
:
> I used my husband's hood to make one for my soninlaw. I
I used my husband's hood to make one for my soninlaw. Is yours to be for the
MA or Phd. I would be happy to make up a pattern for you. First, research the
general style (any of Academic garb sites and find out the proper colors for
School and discipline to be featured. I can also send you my
Fantastic!
I had no idea that there was this development in Fashion softwear. What fun to
see how the garment will move before it is even cut.
Yesterday I received a copy of Textiles in America 1650-1870 (published 2007)
Florence Montgomery. Did I miss a h-costume discussion of this volume? It
Sara, have you seen any of Alessandra Thor's original work? She is a Russian
dollmaker originally connected with the Seeley clan. I find her folk dolls to
be awesome...and she often dresses them in Old Time garb.
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From: "Saragrace Knauf"
Sent 3/31/2009 10:14:02 AM
To: h
Another thought re research of paintings, I suppose the art work you need would
be in the religious devotional work?
Kathleen
-Original Message-
From: "Saragrace Knauf"
Sent 3/31/2009 10:14:02 AM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] "Russian" Peasant dress prior to 17th century?A
You might start with the Jackie Kennedy volume on Russian costume. It includes
many photos of folk costume from Russian regions. I would also check Tilke for
Russian regional dress.
Kathleen
-Original Message-
From: "K?the Barrows"
Sent 3/31/2009 5:43:12 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Su
I have a pair of antique down puffs like the ones shown in the Kyoto book.
They each have three ties about 8" long that are mated with matching ones in
the sleeve head. they work wonderfully well.
kathleen
-Original Message-
From: "Lavolta Press"
Sent 3/22/2009 4:13:01 PM
To: "Historic
I believe that Greenberg and Hammer still carry this item.
Kathleen
-Original Message-
From:
Sent 1/24/2009 2:01:22 AM
To: "Historical Costume"
Subject: Re: [h-cost] help needed to find a notion> tux. The notions list "one
cummerbund assembly (two sliders and one
> buckle)". Can anyone t
making a midcentury dress for this year's Christmas choir concert. Using one of
the McCann patterns, I have chosen a Civil War quilt print fabric. While of
cotton, the "hand" is very silky...purple nosegay of small roses on a tan
background that also has a watermark streak through out. I have
Have you looked at the "Dangerous Liaisons" collections/exhibit at the
Metropolitan, 2004? Not much in the way of lingerie but many extant costumes
used for that display...for both men and women; very nice bibliography.
kathleen
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From: "Sharon Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECT
Pricey indeed, but what fun!
Kathleen (who has more interesting china and glassware than she should!)
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From: "Frank A Thallas Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent 5/19/2008 4:29:14 PM
To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costumed tableware Well, I
I too think this is an illusion; an artist's attempt at painting a realistic
pose that shows what happens to the clothing when a child is being held. Most
other paintings from earlier times are more concerned with content and meaning
and not with pictoral renderings that try to duplicate the im
OK you H-Costume folk, if you will take one more reflection on Books/Resources
from a recently retired costumer,..
When I began my craft nearly 50 years ago, I soon found that there were few
books or resources for period costuming available from my local library or
even the college library an
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