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ate: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:03:33 -0600 (CST)
rom: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen"
o: Historical Costume
ubject: [h-cost] questions about a fabric/clothing site
> A friend of mine is wondering if anyone has anything to say about this
> site:
>
> www.ichiroya.com
I've ordered from them, and had a very good experience. They were very helpful
when I e-mailed for help with colors and such. The items arrived quickly (for
international shipping) and were in
>I know nothing bout Japanese clothing customs, but a friend told me they
>will not wear the clothing of a deceased person. Anyone know if this is
>true? I'm just curious, because if true, what happens to those wonderfully
>decorated garments?
I had often wondered the same thing myself. A friend a
ing a
person was wearing when he/she died?
Sharon C.
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:04 AM
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Subject: [h-cost] questions about a fabric/clo
Hello all!
A friend of mine is wondering if anyone has anything to say about this
site:
www.ichiroya.com
Thanks!
Jen
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Maggie
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] questions
I can't imagine the breathability of your farthingale fabric would matter in
the least. It never touches your skin except at the waist, and barely that.
Hoops hold the skirts away from the
I can't imagine the breathability of your farthingale fabric would matter in
the least. It never touches your skin except at the waist, and barely that.
Hoops hold the skirts away from the body, which allows plenty of air to the
lower extremities. The fabric and the hooping material for a farthing
Kimiko Small wrote:
>A. The difference depends on time period, and simple word use. Elizabethan
>>farthingales are shaped differently than Victorian crinolines, which
>>differed in shape depending on the time frame. Both are different in shape
>>than modern "hoops". People in general call them
I can really only address one part of this.
On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Julie wrote:
2. If I have to make my own hoops, where do you recommend I buy the
hoop material?
My first farthingale was sturdy cotton twill, and when it wore out, I
made my second one of medium-weight linen. I try
Spiral steels would be a choice that does not reflect the era of a Dickens
Fair, which is c.1830-1860-ish, no? Whalebone, much cording, spring steels,
iirc.
My c.1880 corsets, which I made, have spring steel boning and not spirals at
all, and they only gave me issues at the tops, where I haven
Greetings!
penhal...@juno.com wrote:
In your Victorian corset, many of the bones are probably actually spiral steels
which have more of the flexibility of whale bone and bend over the complex
curves of the female torso better than rigid steels.
I don't do Elizabethan any more, but when I did I
esn't happen with
plastic coated steel.
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:46 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] questions
Is there a difference between a farthingale
ne of those 9 days
(including dancing most of the evenings), I have never had such a thing happen
even at my most sweaty.
From: "penhal...@juno.com"
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 9:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] questions
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A. The difference depends on time period, and simple word use. Elizabethan
farthingales are shaped differently than Victorian crinolines, which differed
in shape depending on the time frame. Both are different in shape than modern
"hoops". People in general call them all "hoops". I have a page t
such a thing happen
even at my most sweaty.
From: "penhal...@juno.com"
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 9:02:22 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] questions
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From: Julie
To:
Subject: [h-cost] ques
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From: Julie
To:
Subject: [h-cost] questions
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:45:38 -0800 (PST)
Is there a difference between a farthingale and hoops? I need hoops/something
under my skirts.
Yes and no. In their most basic form, they are stiffened underskirts
Is there a difference between a farthingale and hoops? I need hoops/something
under my skirts.
1. I'm told that the bridal hoops sold are made of synthetic material and so
will be miserable at a warm fair. Is this so? Or are there hoops available
made of cotton or linen?
2. If I have to m
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> Mind you there are more than 500 prints!!!
>
> Bjarne
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> From: "Sharon Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:54 PM
> Subject: [h-cost
At 20:07 23/05/2008, you wrote:
>Dear Sharon Henderson.
>Thanks for your post.
>This is not anything about undergarments, but i am sure these wil be a big
>inspiration to you, they are to me!
>Louis Carrogis made these water colours pictures of the french nobility:
>http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/C
> Can anyone point me toward some historically-accurate web links or resources
> for clothing from the 1760s in France, during the reign of Louis XV?
Have a look at http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/18thlinks.htm - she has
MANY links! I think you'll find almost everything
you need.
Rega
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Mind you there are more than 500 prints!!!
Bjarne
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 5:54 PM
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derson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent 5/23/2008 11:54:24 AM
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Subject: [h-cost] Questions on Louis XV (1760s) CostumingGood morning all,
Can anyone point me toward some historically-accurate web links or resources
for clothing from the 1760s in France, during the reign of L
At 16:54 23/05/2008, you wrote:
>Good morning all,
>
>Can anyone point me toward some historically-accurate web links or resources
>for clothing from the 1760s in France, during the reign of Louis XV? Some
>friends are planning a large-group cosplay gathering for the anime version
>of "Le Chevalie
Good morning all,
Can anyone point me toward some historically-accurate web links or resources
for clothing from the 1760s in France, during the reign of Louis XV? Some
friends are planning a large-group cosplay gathering for the anime version
of "Le Chevalier D'Eon", and while the costumes are f
Thanks everyone for all of the great advice!
Teena
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I just bought an 80/20 Linen Wool blend from the outlet store in Meulebeke
Belgium for 8 Euros/yard it is at least 60."
Even if you just buy linen, the quality is fabulous
http://www.thelinenhouse.com/EN/AboutUs_TheStores.htm
This isn't that far a drive from England these days and is totall
http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com is probably your best bet for price &
selection, but be warned of a couple of things. First, I've watched the
owner as he takes a brief look and feel of unlabelled fabric before deciding
what to sell it as--100% wool ain't always 100% wool. Scary, no? He may
"Suit weight" can be worsted or woolen. I've had modern tabby-woven
woolens full an awful lot--something like 30%--in the wash. Worsted is
much less likely to full.
Jen/pixel
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote:
They won't full, or I'd be surprised if they moved more than very
For the 14th c. I would go with a gabardine or worsted twill, actually,
unless you can find a lightweight woolen. Layers, rather than one heavy
garment, are the way to go here (and accurate for the period!).
For Fashion Fabrics Club, keywords are "100% wool" and then "suiting",
"gabardine",
They won't full, or I'd be surprised if they moved more than very
slightly. Modern fabrics, especially those types of fabrics, are
treated so they don't full in the wash.
(Now, I know there's a difference between worsting, fulling and
felting, but I don't think it's relevant to the present
convers
For the suit weights, would they need fulling first, since they're so smooth?
Soffya
Dawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Beteena Paradise wrote:
> I'd like to make some roughly 14th c stuff... gothic fitted dress for me
> and a cotehardie or cotte for my husband.
>
> The problem is that I
Beteena Paradise wrote:
I'd like to make some roughly 14th c stuff... gothic fitted dress for me and a cotehardie or cotte for my husband.
The problem is that I am not sure which modern fabrics to choose. If I were to look somewhere like fashionfabricsclub.com, on what types of fabrics
I still get paid in dollars, so I'd rather purchase from the US if I can. That
means I am fairly limited to online sites or where my MIL can go. But I need to
explain to her exactly what I need as she doesn't sew. But not knowing what
type of wool fabric is preferred is a big problem for both sc
At 10:31 28/09/2007, you wrote:
I've never had to make garb for a cool climate before, but now that
we live in England, I think switching to wool might be a good idea.
:) Especially as it was 42 F yesterday morning. Brr!
I'd like to make some roughly 14th c stuff... gothic fitted dress
for
I've never had to make garb for a cool climate before, but now that we live in
England, I think switching to wool might be a good idea. :) Especially as it
was 42 F yesterday morning. Brr!
I'd like to make some roughly 14th c stuff... gothic fitted dress for me and
a cotehardie or cotte fo
The blue-->brown with bleach issue has me wondering if your blue is actually
indigo, which (I believe, unless I have things backwards) turns yellow in basic
solutions and blue again in acids. That might also explain why it's so very
hard to remove. Try dipping your brown swatch in vinegar to ret
Sounds like it would be gorgeous just the color it is.
Wear it outdoors for a few weekends and it may well
start to fade. (Blues these days seem to be expecially
unstable.)
I'm just afraid that efforts to lighten it will end up
giving you something that looks like blue-jean denim.
And that's not
In a message dated 8/28/2007 11:01:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you elevated it
above the ground you would avoid the bugs and mildew.
You could still get flying/jumping bugs, like grasshoppers, too. And some
of them might try to eat it.
Ann Wass
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Subject: [h-cost] questions about linen and dyes
I've got a very dark blue linen that I'd like to make a 16th century dress
out of. However, it's very very dark, nearly black, and I'd like to lighten
it a bit. Fade it, even.
I washed a test piece and some color came out in th
I'm wondering if staking it out on the grass for a week under our
blistering summer sun would do it or if I'd just get mildew and bugs.
:)
That would work in theory -- but not staked on the grass. If you elevated it
above the ground you would avoid the bugs and mildew. However, you couldn
I do not at all recommend trying to remove darkdark blue dye from linen.
YMMV, but don't count on it!
Oh yes, you're so right, soaking it in bleach overnight is not a good
idea, as you illustrated. And it doesn't seem I'd get the color I wanted
anyway.
I've found two paintings of women
it. It doesn't have any stress on it anywhere so it's
held up pretty good, even 6+ years later.
I do not at all recommend trying to remove darkdark blue dye from linen.
YMMV, but don't count on it!
::Linda::
On Behalf Of Dawn
Subject: [h-cost] questions about linen and dyes
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Subject: [h-cost] questions about linen and dyes
I've got a very dark blue linen that I'd like to make a 16th century
dress out of. However, it's very very dark, nearly bla
I don't think it's possible. Usually when you bleach dyed fabric, it
turns a different color. Only thing to do is to bleach the hell out of
it and then overdye it. If you do that, however, you run the risk of
damaging the fabric. You should buy some Antichlor to remove the
excess bleach.
I've got a very dark blue linen that I'd like to make a 16th century
dress out of. However, it's very very dark, nearly black, and I'd like
to lighten it a bit. Fade it, even.
I washed a test piece and some color came out in the water, but did not
noticeably lighten the fabric. I think this wa
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<< 47 inches long would be almost floor-length on me, and I know that's
too long. I need to shorten this, but how _much_ do I need to
shorten it? >>
Unless I'm remembering wrong, most patterns are made with a height of 5'6"
(66") in mind.
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47 inches long would be almost floor-length on me, and I know that's
too long. I need to shorten this, but how _much_ do I need to
shorten it?
I started to make this once upon a time, and have since lost the entire
project. 47" would be mid calf on me, and I'm med
ery nice!
"Don't forget your bucket"
Ice Machine in the Desert/Brave Combo
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:33 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Questions: Ti
To anyone who has made Folkwear's Tibetan Panel Coat, or lives
someplace where they can take a look at a real one:
Is this supposed to be a knee-length garment, or a mid-calf?
The envelope picture isn't clear. I already tried asking Folkwear
directly, and the response was "moron, look at the b
I ordered mine a few days after it was published ( when I found out about it)
from Michael Shemansky for $95USD.
Monica
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From: Melanie Schuessler
Date: Friday, January 5, 2007 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Questions re: Moda a Firenze
To: Historical Costume
Greetings to all,
I have a different question about this book. To those of you in the US
who got it when it first became available: how much did you pay for it,
and when was that? I'm trying to establish the "original" price of this
book to see how much it's gone up and how fast.
The book
I would add to this: a lot of the sources are Italian, also, so if you want to
track down the primary source for any of the information, it's going to be
difficult. (On the other hand, the *primary* source would be in Italian anyway,
so maybe it's great that the authors have told us where to look
: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:29 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Questions re: Moda a Firenze
I've lucked into some Christmas gift money and am looking to
(finally!) purchase this book. However, given the hefty price tag, I'd
like to get some reviews (regrettably, the loc
I second Susan's recommendation of the book, although I've yet to finish
reading my copy. The info is very detailed, including history of the family,
and far more images than I've seen elsewhere. They even include an image of an
extant smock I'd not seen anywhere else done in lovely embroidery.
Quoting "A. Thurman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I've lucked into some Christmas gift money and am looking to
(finally!) purchase this book. However, given the hefty price tag, I'd
like to get some reviews (regrettably, the local textile library
doesn't have a copy). Some of my questions:
What are its
I've lucked into some Christmas gift money and am looking to
(finally!) purchase this book. However, given the hefty price tag, I'd
like to get some reviews (regrettably, the local textile library
doesn't have a copy). Some of my questions:
What are its strengths? Weaknesses?
Are the writers cre
Also, try Smoke and Fire for patterns.
Susan
"Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for". - "Ride the Dark
Trail" by Louis L'Amour
On Apr 26, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Marc Carlson wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Generally R
I'll have to check. The guy who invited me is from a unit of
Highlanders, but I was thinking I'd just stick to my civilian
clothes. Unfortunately, those have about everything I need --
except a coat.
OTOH, if it's strictly military thing, I'll probably just stick to
modern stuff.
Per
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Generally Rev War events, at least on the East coast, have
participants organized in military units. Is it a battle event? If
so, then it's probably mostly reenactment units. The organization is
important for safety and "walk on" participants are discouraged.
I'll ha
no idea on the former question, but on the latter (coat), have you tried jas
townsend's?? (don't have url to hand, sorry, but whenever I need them I
google or yahoo them)
debbie
ps - also have no idea what their patterns are like, as I don't use comm.
patterns, but am sure I've seen rev w
Hi Marc,
Generally Rev War events, at least on the East coast, have
participants organized in military units. Is it a battle event? If
so, then it's probably mostly reenactment units. The organization is
important for safety and "walk on" participants are discouraged.
In which case,
For reasons that are somewhat complicated, I may be at a rev war event in
virginia on the 14th-16th of July. First the off topic - can anyone give
me a hint on what to expect - how much this sort of thing costs, tha tsort
of thing (I've done re-eacting elsewhere, but not RW and not in VA).
A
ssage -
From: "Cascio Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: [h-cost] questions on kimono
I've decided to revamp my casual wardrobe and am
leaning towards a Japanese theme.
So now I have several questions.
I've started by doi
What is the time frame you're looking at?
Gwenhwyfar
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From: Cascio Michael
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 13:40
Subject: [h-cost] questions on kimono
I've decided to revamp my casual wardrobe and am
leaning
I've decided to revamp my casual wardrobe and am
leaning towards a Japanese theme.
So now I have several questions.
I've started by doing web research and pulling out all
my appropriate patterns, Folkwear, etc and my copy of
Make Your Own Japanese Clothing.
Would the first layer be linen? One of
Greetings--
Many period dyes make strong/deep colors, and these would have been
preferred. Perhaps there was something specific to the Teutonic knights
that required sober hues? The black cross on white surcote seems to have
been their "uniform."
De: I mostly was wondering about the r
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, otsisto wrote:
> I have learned to take Wikipedia with a grain of salt. On one of the
> lists someone mentioned that he had found flaws with it as anyone can
> leave info on a subject. Be it w/scholarly research or not.
Oh, of course, it's not a reliable source for formal re
I finally received a reply. She said that the sober colors come from a 1295
manuscript on the Teutonic knights attire and thought that anyone working or
being around the Knights would also wear sober colors.
De
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De: I have understood that even in this period (1410) that there were
bright colors worn, not just sober even among the lower class.
Robin Netherton wrote:
Many period dyes make strong/deep colors, and these would have been
preferred. Perhaps there was something specific to the Teutonic knight
Thank you for responding.
I have learned to take Wikipedia with a grain of salt.
On one of the lists someone mentioned that he had found flaws with it as
anyone can leave info on a subject. Be it w/scholarly research or not.
They are doing it for Lilies War but I am not sure if it is for a war poin
No one else has responded to this, so I'll step in and take an uninformed
stab -- this is not my geographic area, but it is my time period.
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, otsisto wrote:
> Some within my SCA group is pulling together costumes for early 1400s,
> Teutonic Knights and Lithuanians.
Thank good
Some within my SCA group is pulling together costumes for early 1400s,
Teutonic Knights and Lithuanians.
This is not my forte' though I have become interested in the Lithuanian
side.
The Lady in charge has presented kits from her research that has piqued my
curiosity. I have sent my questions to he
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