I don't know much more about it than what shows up on Amazon and on Oxbow,
except that Robin Netherton asked the publisher about it, and heard that
they're hoping to get it out by the end of the year. Hopefully it will be
close to that, because I'm very impatient!
Here's the Oxbow
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, E House wrote, about Geoff Egan's new Tudor
artifacts book:
I don't know much more about it than what shows up on Amazon and on
Oxbow, except that Robin Netherton asked the publisher about it, and
heard that they're hoping to get it out by the end of the year.
And now
Some more info on the pictures
http://mystictimes.nl/Gallery/Gallery.html
It was great to see the clothing.
They were so tiny!
But maby I am just tall.
In F1 you see me standing beside a dress.
And the stiches were much smaller than my machine can make them.
Most of the costumes where displayd
The high collar is a part of the partlet. She is wearing a kind of coat over
a gown.
Something a kin to this ensemble.
http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/countesslivia.JPG
or this
http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/EMILIA1560.jpg
only a little more fitted in the
If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on
this site that I've not seen before:
One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) :
http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm
And if this is truely a self portrait of Leonardowhoo hoo!
Has anyone seen the book Memling's Portraits? It's a catalogue of an
exhibit at the Frick Museum, which I just heard about today. Today is the
last day of the show, which is a traveling exhibit of 30 Memling portraits
making its only US stop. The Frick's website lists the book in its shop
I found this image on IMDB:
http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0402894/Ss/0402894/001.jpg?path=gallerypath_key=0402894
Not the best photo, but you can definitely see her corset (and her thru it!!)
~mary
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otsisto wrote:
or this
http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/EMILIA1560.jpg
only a little more fitted in the bodice region.
What is that she is holding in her right hand? It looks like some part
of her coat. A belt? Or is she holding the hem up? Or is it something else?
Dawn
Looks like the corset is made out of foam.
Mary wrote:
I found this image on IMDB:
http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0402894/Ss/0402894/001.jpg?path=gallerypath_key=0402894
Not the best photo, but you can definitely see her corset (and her thru it!!)
~mary
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Hi, sorry for the crossposting.
In Revolution in Fashion on page 100 there is a pair of stays wich always
has made me wonder how it was worn.
Its a covered pair of stays very beautifully covered with a floral brocade.
It has tied on sleaves and it closes in the center front with lacing. Only
Whoops! Well, Justin's name is the one that was on
the shipping label. And I certainly didn't want to be
sexist about this. We have several talented male
costumers on the list. But I want to be accurate
(that research thing coming up again) and thank you,
Genie. And I am enjoying
What Jane
Hi Mary,
It definately shows, how odd. I think not they have boned the stays, at
least not in the front. You can also see the fabric is wrinking on the
stomacher point. Perhaps they think they wore stays without bones?
Bjarne
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Leonardo looks a little Orlando Bloom-ish, doesn't he? Especially around the
eyes.
WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on
this site that I've not seen before:
One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) :
I found this image on IMDB:
http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0402894/Ss/0402894/001.jpg?path=gallerypath_key=0402894
Not the best photo, but you can definitely see her corset (and her thru
it!!)
It looks like girdle-weight lycra stretched tight. Her bosom is certainly
squashed, and it certainly
Oh, that picture! I saw it earlier online. When Julie first
described it, it sounded like the thing was sheer! But I see what
you mean about seeing the outline of her breast.
It definitely looks like it's made of fabric only with no boning.
Yes, Hollywood costumers know better -
Thanks for the pictures and the extra info on the garments. It was great to
see.
-Helen/Aidan
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Dawn wrote:
otsisto wrote:
or this
http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/EMILIA1560.jpg
only a little more fitted in the bodice region.
What is that she is holding in her right hand? It looks like some part
of her coat. A belt? Or is she holding the hem up? Or is it something
am not really wanting the melons on a platter as some said earlier.
Hi Becky,
I think of the melons on a platter in the 18th Century, not Elizabethan, as
the corsets are shaped differently. The Renn and Elizabethan are more
tubular in shape to the 18thC cone shape that gives you a higher
Elena wrote:
, in the neatest decorated paper box.
The box has a great back-story. It's called a Mrs Yabe box and I learned
the pattern from Barry Morentz, another calligrapher. He was studying
paper-making in Japan for several months, and when he left, his landlady
(Mrs Yabe) gave him a
Doesn't look well boned enough for the period! That and it's fitting wonkie
through her mid section, which also could be the result of not enough
boning.
I hate it when modern veiws are voiced in period movies.
Like a woman in the 18thC would think about going without her corset in
public
Sometimes it's not up to the designer, or the costumier...as a former
theatre type, I've witnessed actress throwing temper tantrums over costumes.
It's not pretty, but sometimes happens, and if the actress had the producers
or director in her back pocket, she may have gotten away with a lot.
I could probably put on my 18thC stays, and the earlier ones I've made, and
put photos up on the website, it may take a little bit of time, as I have
been feeling trashed of late and so the website is slow to update with my
stuff...Pierre can only mind read so well.
Long and short, let me see
Saragrace said:
If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on
this site that I've not seen before:
One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) :
http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm
There's a color copy of this one at
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Dawn wrote:
otsisto wrote:
or this
http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/EMILIA1560.jpg
only a little more fitted in the bodice region.
What is that she is holding in her right hand? It looks like some part
of her coat. A belt? Or is she holding the
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Robin Netherton wrote:
I'm 95% certain it's a zibellino ...
Nope. Tawny points out that when you blow it up, you can see clearly it's
fabric. I didn't see that on my browser, but when I saved and enlarged the
image, I could see clearly that it loops up behind her hand, and
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Susan B. Farmer wrote:
This painting
http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer/SCA/Paintings/florentine_PortraitWoman-landinFig39.jpg
or
http://tinyurl.com/byswr
is simply listed as Florentine with no specific artist attributed.
It's almost *identical* to the painting from
Susan B. Farmer wrote:
There's a color copy of this one at
http://englishhistory.net/tudor/relative/brandon.html
and isn't that beadwork on her sleeves *gorgeous*
O! Thanks! Yes the sleeves are great!
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My tuppence on this one is that it is a decorative, vestigial hanging
sleeve. You can see something like it in Queen Elizabeth's Pelican
portrait. I agree that it is fabric and not fur, but I don't think it's
part of the skirt.
Karen
Seamstrix
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:20:10 -0600 (CST) Robin
The first thing I thought of when I looked at the picture was that the actress
bought into the corsets are horrible arguement and insisted on something
different... because it looks like a compromise like Julie says. Just my 2
cents. Kathy
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Yes!! That's it exactly.
I got this packet from Australia two weeks before Christmas and had to put it
away so I would be good and not open it before I was supposed to. My secret
Santa was Sharon Nevin who sent a cross stitched beaded Christmas card (very
lovely) and a hand made green velveteen pouch with gold tassels
Is it laced at the back?
Hi Bjarne,
I haven't yet seen a doublet that laces up the back, doesn't mean they
didn't exist, just that I haven't seen any. My thought is that the
fastening
is up centrefront, but hidden, possibly hook and eyes.
There is a jerkin in the Met Museum that laces in
If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on
this site that I've not seen before:
One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) :
http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm
And if this is truely a self portrait of Leonardowhoo hoo!
Another take on the movie, is what Heath Ledger says in the first
five minutes of the first clip on this page...
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?tab=trailersmid=22797
Basically, he wasn't trying to portray the character historically
since the movie wasn't. I don't think they wanted to
Ooooh A, I didn't realize this one had metallic bobbin lace on it!
Yeah! Justification! We.
Sg
michaela wrote:
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/expl/hob_26.196.htm
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On Saturday 31 December 2005 4:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Oh, that picture! I saw it earlier online. When Julie first
described it, it sounded like the thing was sheer! But I see what
you mean about seeing the outline of her breast.
It
Very cool! thank you! You didn't actually have it on your body did you???
Kelly/estela
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Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on
this site that I've not seen before:
One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) :
http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm
And if this is truely a self portrait of Leonardowhoo hoo!
At 10:21 AM 1/01/2006, you wrote:
Holbein's Jane Seymour for instance;)
http://www.artcyclopedia.com/commons/hans-holbein-the-younger.html
(Though there is a third somewhere.)
I thought there was four? IIRC Janet Arnold in a Handbook of Costume has
the different portraits side by side.
I just sent my Secret Santa what I had around the house. I haven't even gotten
to making my first Tudor Bodice or even thinking of my 6 sets of Choli's from
India that I want to make.
I feel inadequate compared to you - you actually made a HAT!!
I haven't done anything more complex than a
Just a bit of wonderingIn addition to Sheer Bad Taste (tm) and
inaccurate information on the part of a fair number of modern reenactors and
RenFairies, could some of the TOAP effect be coming from our larger bodies?
I'm not referring to the largely mythical
we're-so-much-taller-than-they-were
Hello,
I was told there is an absolutely amazing fabric store in Bay City,
Michigan. The friend who told me about it couldn't recall the store
name. I was wondering if anyone on this board would be able to help me
out? I'm not from Michigan, but have been considering a trip and would
love
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