Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-13 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/14/2009 09:50 AM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote: > hiho patrick, > mostly just for fun i have reactivate the hydrogenplayer application. > now it compiled with scons. > > try out branches hydrogen-player. > i have add some new commands. > her is a list with available commands: > - Commands - hydr

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-13 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
hiho patrick, mostly just for fun i have reactivate the hydrogenplayer application. now it compiled with scons. try out branches hydrogen-player. i have add some new commands. her is a list with available commands: - Commands - hydrogen player 0.9.4 --- TRANSPORT:

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/04/2009 11:29 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > >>> If we spin off libhydrogen, we could: >>> >>> * Offer Hydrogen sampler as a plugin. >>> >> Where's the interface? >> > Do you mean GUI? It depends on the plugin sys

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-04 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >> If we spin off libhydrogen, we could: >> >> * Offer Hydrogen sampler as a plugin. > > Where's the interface? Do you mean GUI? It depends on the plugin system... but generally plugins don't come with GUI's. There have been several requests to

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/03/2009 11:33 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > >> FWIW, this sort of thing is why I want to spin off libhydrogen and also >> UN-singleton everything. By having H2Core::Hydrogen (and friends) be >> singleton classes means that

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-03 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
Am Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:26:00 -0600 schrieb Jason Schaefer : > Hello everyone > > I have made a list of some of my dream features.. I'm excited for the > possibilities that hydrogen's future holds! > > - OSC (opensoundcontrol.org) support, this would open up many doors. > client/server, network ca

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-03 Thread Jason Schaefer
Hello everyone I have made a list of some of my dream features.. I'm excited for the possibilities that hydrogen's future holds! - OSC (opensoundcontrol.org) support, this would open up many doors. client/server, network capable, specialized hardware interoperability, etc. - With OSC implemented

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > More on this thought (just for records) > > If we spin off libhydrogen, we could: > >   * Offer Hydrogen sampler as a plugin. > >   * Offer the 'classic' Hydrogen front-end, and possibly >     spin off a new application with

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-03 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > FWIW, this sort of thing is why I want to spin off libhydrogen and also > UN-singleton everything. By having H2Core::Hydrogen (and friends) be > singleton classes means that you need separate processes in order to get > this sort of behavior

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-02 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/02/2009 05:39 PM, Sebastian Moors wrote: > Patrick Shirkey schrieb: > >> On 09/02/2009 12:57 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: >> >> >>> Patrick Shirkey wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: > Patrick Shirkey wrote

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-02 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
Am Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:56:47 -0500 (CDT) schrieb "Gabriel M. Beddingfield" : > > Hi Guys, > > There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., > etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for > the "Live" direction -- so we may see more develope

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-02 Thread Sebastian Moors
Patrick Shirkey schrieb: > On 09/02/2009 12:57 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: > >> Patrick Shirkey wrote: >> >> >>> On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: >>> >>> >>> Patrick Shirkey wrote > - Multiple song playback at one time - has

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/02/2009 01:07 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Moors wrote: > >> One would create a group of patterns in the song editor ( via shortcut) >> and then select the group of patterns as a the "object" which gets >> triggered by your button..

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/02/2009 12:57 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: > Patrick Shirkey wrote: > >> On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: >> >> >>> Patrick Shirkey wrote >>> - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with the playlist code?

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > Before the new development team had formed Alessandro and Artemio had > a kind of agreement the H20 would become a composition environment > with a real sampler (for which Artemio wrote several LADSPA effects). >> From this discussion I have an i

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Moors wrote: >> >> * One screen, uncluttered interface.[1] Make sure it works >>with Netbooks (like the EEE PC). >> > Does this refer to the whole application or just the sampler interface? I was thinking the whole app. >> * JACK only. Reduce th

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: >>>     * Real-time looping with overdub (even if we're just >>>       being a front-end for sooperlooper). >> >> Like in Ableton? > > First, my full experience with Live is the 2 or 3 "official" videos from > Ableton on YouTube.  So a

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Moors
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > >> I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into >> one document. (Well, as many as we can) >> > > FWIW, I plan to build this document after fixing issues with the manua

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Hi Sebastian, On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Moors wrote: > One would create a group of patterns in the song editor ( via shortcut) > and then select the group of patterns as a the "object" which gets > triggered by your button.. I think what Patrick is getting at is triggering patterns or groups

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Moors
Patrick Shirkey wrote: > On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: > >> Patrick Shirkey wrote >>> - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with >>> the playlist code? >>> >>> >>> >> That won't work at the moment, and i believe that it will be hard >> ("h

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:     * Real-time looping with overdub (even if we're just       being a front-end for sooperlooper). Like in Ableton? First, my full experience with Live is the 2 or 3 "official" videos from Ableton on YouTube. So all I can say is, "Dunno.

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Moors
Hi Orcan, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Hi, I haven't been following the recent development status so I may be > outdated. > > What is the current status of standardizing the drumsets? i.e. opening > one song -that was recorded by a particular drumkit- with a different > drumkit. It used to be that each

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: >     * Real-time looping with overdub (even if we're just >       being a front-end for sooperlooper). Like in Ableton? Alexandre -- Let Crystal Reports ha

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into > one document. (Well, as many as we can) FWIW, I plan to build this document after fixing issues with the manual. I have all the e-mails and will use those to c

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 09:34 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > >> Sorry for not being clear enough. It's hard to express these abstract >> thoughts sometimes. >> > Thanks! I think I understand what you mean a lot better, now. > > Exactly

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > Sorry for not being clear enough. It's hard to express these abstract > thoughts sometimes. Thanks! I think I understand what you mean a lot better, now. >>> Exactly. The sample button is the item in the grid on the sampler >>> interface. ie the r

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 08:45 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > >>> I don't understand this. Why would it be useful to have two different >>> songs playing at the same time? >>> >> This would provide ultimate flexibility and is in keeping with

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >> I don't understand this. Why would it be useful to have two different >> songs playing at the same time? > > This would provide ultimate flexibility and is in keeping with the work > flow that AL users expect. And the work flow that AL users expect

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: > Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > >> - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with >> the playlist code? >> >> > That won't work at the moment, and i believe that it will be hard > ("hard" means "we have to touch a lot of

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 03:15 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > Thanks! I have a few questions on what you mean with some of them. > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > >> - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with >> the playlist code? >>

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 05:49 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote: > >>> And it would be not easy to control several instances of hydrogen via >>> midi. Each one needs it own configuration file and a utility which >>> writes those files. I think it could

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., > etc.  In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for > the "Live" direction -- so we may see more developers. > > I suggest

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote: >> >> And it would be not easy to control several instances of hydrogen via >> midi. Each one needs it own configuration file and a utility which >> writes those files. I think it could be done, but it would be a new >> application beside hydrogen (l

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
Am Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:31:45 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Moors : > Hi! > > m.wolkst...@gmx.de schrieb: > > hi patrick, > > as i say, i like your idea. but with the current interface and backend this > > functions > > are impossible to realise. > > > > what you need is something like a hydrogen playe

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Sebastian Moors
Sebastian Moors schrieb: > Hi! > > m.wolkst...@gmx.de schrieb: > >> hi patrick, >> as i say, i like your idea. but with the current interface and backend this >> functions are impossible to realise. >> >> what you need is something like a hydrogen player. >> this is something like one instance

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Sebastian Moors
Hi! m.wolkst...@gmx.de schrieb: > hi patrick, > as i say, i like your idea. but with the current interface and backend this > functions are impossible to realise. > > what you need is something like a hydrogen player. > this is something like one instance witch can load h2 songs and play them. >

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
Am Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:16:48 +1000 schrieb Patrick Shirkey : > > On 09/01/2009 12:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., > > etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for > > the

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Hi Patrick, Thanks! I have a few questions on what you mean with some of them. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with > the playlist code? (FYI: Audio backend doesn't support this.) I don't understand this. Why wou

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Sebastian Moors
Patrick Shirkey wrote: > On 09/01/2009 12:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., >> etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for >> the "Live" direction -- so we may see more de

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > >>> Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the >>> project? >> >> Who's vision? > > The team's of course :) :-) I think that's sort of the idea behind ga

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the >> project? > > Who's vision? The team's of course :) Alexandre -- Let Crystal Repor

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the > project? Who's vision? -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 12:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > Hi Guys, > > There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., > etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for > the "Live" direction -- so we may see more developers. > > I suggest that we co

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: > I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into > one document.  (Well, as many as we can) Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the project? Alexandre -