Re: Support for MVS/SP 3.2.2 on zSeries???

2006-04-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
BK, just out of curiosity, in what country is the company you've acquired located? - - - - - Timothy F. Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries IBM Japan, Ltd. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Alternative to mvsqr, was: Bringing the fun back to z/OS - new course

2006-04-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
Receiving a fair price on any product requires a *credible* market alternative in *your* particular situation. Things that bring credibility to the discussion: - a project actually underway to switch from one vendor to another I would consider it a strategic error to stick with a vendor that has

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread TISLER Zaromil
- snip - In the initial setup we defined in HCD base (3390B) and alias (3390A) volumes with wlmpav=yes (for the aliases). - snip - Do you have WLMPAV=YES for the base volumes, too? Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: What am I missing to allow dynamic management of pav's? Do you have I/O Priority Management turned on? It seems basic, but without it two things happen: 1. Execution Velocity is calculated with only CPU values. 2. PAV is not dynamic. Where is the switch to turn I/O

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Where is the switch to turn I/O Priority Management on ? IIRC on the same screen as where you define the SDC's for CPU, SRB, MSO IOC. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: Where is the switch to turn I/O Priority Management on ? IIRC on the same screen as where you define the SDC's for CPU, SRB, MSO IOC. Silly me. I was looking for it on HMC... Thank you both Ted and Zaromil -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: z8 ???

2006-04-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
IFLs, zAAPs, etc., subject to the usual rule that the number of any type of speciality engines may not exceed the number of OS engines. That rule only applies to zAAPs and (according to the press release) zIIPs, not the other types of engines. Using a System z9-109 as an example, all of

PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Gerry Anstey
Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've done it before but I just

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread גדי בן אבי
IEBUPDTE is what you are looking for. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Anstey Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: PDS unload Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Walter Marguccio
- Original Message From: Gerry Anstey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the member its was before it. I've

Re: OAM question

2006-04-05 Thread Mike Wood
Mark, There is an entry in the TCDB for the ejected volume. You can deelte it from the TCDB/Volume Catalog using IDCAMS DELETE (Vvolser) VOLENT you should be able to use this in ISMF mounteable tape volume list and substitute / for the volser. If you want the TCDB entries removed when volumes

Re: Support for MVS/SP 3.2.2 on zSeries???

2006-04-05 Thread Jim Marshall
I believe another question to ask is what are the applications running on this system. I worked on a Realtime Tracking system using MVT and then MVS where they had used many of the IBM spare control block fields for things. In that case it was ugly to upgrade. If the applications are just everyday

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread tuatara
Try something like this: //* //S1 EXEC PGM=IEBPTPCH //SYSINDD * PUNCH TYPORG=PO ,OUTODR=DIR //SYSUT1 DD DSN=C01738.ASM,DISP=SHR //SYSUT2 DD DISP=(NEW,PASS), // UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(100,100),RLSE), // DCB=(RECFM=FBA,LRECL=81,BLKSIZE=8100)

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Denis, You cannot directly invoke an SRB from PL/I or COBOL so you would need to call a routine installed into the system previously that would be an authorized service provider to schedule an SRB for your problem state PL/I or COBOL program. Why do you want to invoke an SRB? PL/I and COBOL

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Driscoll
The service calls to schedule an SRB rae only available from an assembler routine. In addition, in order to schedule and SRB the caller must be authorized, ie. APF authorized, running in a system key or supervisor state, all attributes rarely assigned to COBOL or PL/I programs. Wayne Driscoll

Re: 2105 Question

2006-04-05 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/4/2006 8:26:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 3990-6 accepts PPRC commands, but you cannot specify the LSS parm. The LSS parm was not part of the original implementation, as I recall. My experience with the 3990-6 did not involve trying

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread Denis Gaebler
Hi List, thanks for the responses so far. It was just an idea, if there was a possibility to move some CPU intensiv pieces of code out to the upcoming zIIP processors (requires SRB envlave mode). In our shop the main cost driver is CPU. Nevertheless, I assume there are more issues waiting, if

Re: Disaster Recovery, order of things

2006-04-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 08:21 AM, Longnecker, Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And, of course, any other thoughts? As a final step dump you backup load library if it's not available from the DR facility, your TMC and all critical catalog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: How do you train your Z machine operation stuff?

2006-04-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 10:01 AM, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We tried all of them. It didn't work for us. We are trying the carrot lane now... There's a hole-in-the-wall in Haifa that sells sufganyoth that are to die[1] for. If they learn, you give them some. If

Re: Machine Instructions by Mnemonic - footnote N3

2006-04-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/01/2005 at 08:26 PM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In spite of your :-) is that not how some of the floating point simulation works or used to work? VM uses a similar strategy for simulating privileged instructions for guests, catching the 0C2. No; there

Re: Tabs, etc. in 327x data stream

2006-04-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 10:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (after some stumbling around with manuals and terminal) ITYM ISPF; 0; Environ; TERMSTAT, right? Yes, and it's been a real friend over the years ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: SVC Screening -- again

2006-04-05 Thread Tom Schmidt
Doesn't the method shown (below) offer considerable difficulties if, say, a third bit of vendor software adds itself to the pile using the same technique? If you don't think so, then imagine what will happen when vendor #2 trips its abend routine and decides to back itself out. The BEST it can

Re: Looking for help offlist

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Comstock
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/04/2006 at 11:26 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's time to look for alternatives. I've had one billable day all year and nothing on the books for the rest of my life. Time to move on, I guess. Damn! From the

Any details on this migration

2006-04-05 Thread John Giltner
Does anybody have any details on the size of the IBM mainframe that was replaced in this migration? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3825/49/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Gaebler Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL Hi List, thanks for the responses so far. It was

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread Wayne Driscoll
There are additional requirements for running on zIIP processors than simply running in SRB mode. The SRB will have to be associated with a WLM enclave, and it will need to be marked as zIIP eligible and as of yet, the API's do to this have not been disclosed to the public by IBM. Remember that

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Dennis, I know for us Dynamic PAV just did not work unless we had both I/O priority management Dynamic alias management set to YES in WLM. Service Coefficient/Service Definition Options Command === __ Enter or

Re: How do you train your Z machine operation stuff?

2006-04-05 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:37:12 +0200, Itschak Mugzach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for some hints, PowerPoint, etc. on how to train our operations. Thanks for your advise. Haven't looked at it myself, but I understand ResourceLink has an operator training module for zSeries processors.

Re: dfsflgx0 COMMIT problem

2006-04-05 Thread Avram Friedman
There are lots of parts to this The x'37' record is the QMGR sync point record. I am assuming your Fastpath work is not Fastpath exclusive ... that is you do not use EMH (Expedited Message Handler) From the database stand point is your work exclusivly Fastpath or mixed (Fathpath and full

Time Synchronization Latency

2006-04-05 Thread Curt Thompson
Hello, I have a general question regarding the time synchronization across heterogeneous servers that span thousands of miles apart from each other. I have a large sysplex and distributed server environment, utilizing an IP network. I have an NTP instance running on several of my MF servers, in

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread Todd Burch
Remember that zIIP processors were designed with DB2 in mind. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. Fancy that. So was MVS/XA. :) Todd -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Gerry Anstey
That's the one, thanks GA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
Gerry, If you have SAS in shop, then try PROC SOURCE. It will unload a PDS and create IEBUPDTE control cards in the offloaded file. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Arthur T.
(Sorry if this appears twice. I sent it to the Newsgroup, first, instead of to the list.) On 5 Apr 2006 03:51:01 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (âãé áï àáé) wrote: IEBUPDTE is what you are looking for. If you also want other LRECLs

Re: Disaster Recovery, order of things

2006-04-05 Thread Ron Ferguson
Hello Dennis, On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:21:45 -0700, Dennis Longnecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts on the best way to handle the backup of the various catalogs and RMM files for disaster recovery purposes? TO be specific, I asked Janet Sun, Mainstar's expert on ICF catalogs and how

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/05/2006 at 01:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IEBUPDTE is what you are looking for. No. He wants a program to do the unload. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We

Re: fork on MVS and MVS-Datasets

2006-04-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On 4/5/2006 8:38 AM, JB wrote: I wrote a C-Program on MVS / OS/390 (a Batch Program that runs as a Job under TSO). I will create a new process and I will use MVS-Datasets, which I have allocated in the parent process. It seems, this is a problem under MVS. Datasets doesn't inherited from the

Re: Time Synchronization Latency

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:40:27 -0500, Curt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a general question regarding the time synchronization across heterogeneous servers that span thousands of miles apart from each other. I have a large sysplex and distributed server environment, utilizing an IP

Re: Any details on this migration

2006-04-05 Thread Robert Justice
well, it says a LARGE SCALE systems migration, so that probably means about 50 mips. That's what the alternative platforms consider large. - Original Message - From: John Giltner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, April 05,

Re: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL

2006-04-05 Thread Shane
M - I was at a tech presentation by IBM a couple of weeks back. Selection for dispatch on a zIIP is likely to be severely more limited than Wayne intimates. From the IBM FAQ; Eligible work that can be directed to the zIIP are portions of those requests made from the application server, to the

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread Dennis Leong
We have the I/O Priority Management set to Yes. I believe I've found the answer. In reviewing our device definitions in HCD, I noticed ONLY the aliases have wlmpav set to yes. The base volumes were set to NO. Thanks. Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Lizette Koehler said: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:01:41 -0700 If you have SAS in shop, then try PROC SOURCE. It will unload a PDS and create IEBUPDTE control cards in the offloaded file. What happens if some of the data records to be unloaded contain apparent

Re: fork on MVS and MVS-Datasets

2006-04-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On 4/5/2006 12:13 PM, JB wrote: I think, i have found an answer. I use pipe() and all the other terrible things like dynalloc() I handle in the child. After this I read the pipe in the parent. I don't use the UNIX SYSTEM SERVICE. Yes, you do. You're using fork(), and pipe(), and those are

Re: Any details on this migration

2006-04-05 Thread Hal Merritt
A little googleing turned up that they went live in January 2005. http://www.move2open.com/m2o-bupa-case-study.pdf At that time, they were looking at a 3 year payback at $2 million per year savings. I guess the project was $6m. Wonder how they are doing? The conversion was from CA-IDEAL to

Visual Age PL/1

2006-04-05 Thread Barry Schwarz
Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

Re: Visual Age PL/1

2006-04-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Schwarz Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Visual Age PL/1 Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to

Re: Visual Age PL/1

2006-04-05 Thread Steve Comstock
Barry Schwarz wrote: Does anyone know where I can get information about an IBM product that used to be called Visual Age PL/1 or anything equivalent to it? - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

Re: dynamic PAV

2006-04-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
ONLY the aliases have wlmpav set to yes. The base volumes were set to NO. OOPS! Of course, the fact that IBM always insists that you specify options in more than one place, and if you have a mix up, not only does it not tell you, rather it behaves in the worst possible manner, would have

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Arthur T.
On 5 Apr 2006 10:09:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have SAS in shop, then try PROC SOURCE. It will unload a PDS and create IEBUPDTE control cards in the offloaded file. What happens if some of the data records to be

Fw: Visual Age PL/1

2006-04-05 Thread Bill Klein
VisualAge PL/I for WHAT PLATFORM ??? - If zOS, then it is Enterprise PL/I - If Windows, then it is Websphere Developer for zSeries - If OS/2, then no-where, no-how Barry Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anyone know where I can get information about an

Re: Time Synchronization Latency

2006-04-05 Thread Tony Harminc
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Curt Thompson said: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:40:27 -0500 companies are building-out locations that are further apart in distances, the latency may prove unacceptable. An example where this may be important is during

Re: Visual Age PL/1

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
5655-B22 Uses LE as its only run-time library (there was no unique run-time product). The doc is on the IBM CDs last I looked. Announced 1999, withdrawn 2002, according to my records. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Visual Age PL/1

2006-04-05 Thread Charles Mills
It's on the latest DVD, the z/OS V1R7 DVD: VisualAge PL/I Language Reference Version 2 Release 2 Document Number SC26-9476-00 Program Number 5655-B22 Shelf IBMSSH02 Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: time-synchronization latency

2006-04-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:00:49 + Transmission latency is easily measured and corrected for where it is important; and there are both theory and practice for doing so already in place, elaborated for use in adjusting and rationalizing the TAI

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Gerry Anstey wrote: Guys, I've scanned the archives, RTFM's etc. I want to unload a RECFM=80, FB PDS into a QSAM(FB,80) , IEBCOPY keeps creating a VS dataset. I have seen the output I want It's where each member is one after the other with a name card for the

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Rob Weiss
IEBPTPCH is what you remember. Rob Weiss z/SWITA and z/Series I/T Security and Privacy Consultant IBM Software Group Sales IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/05/2006 06:25:34 PM: On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:26 AM, Gerry Anstey wrote: Guys, I've scanned the archives,

Re: zIIP (Was: Looking for SRB sample in PL/I or COBOL)

2006-04-05 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: requests made from the application server, to the host, via SQL calls over a DRDA® over TCP/IP connection. This a marketting decision to determine technical direction! I can make remote procedure calls over SNA! How would the zIIP know (or care)? - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS!

Re: Any details on this migration

2006-04-05 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
John Giltner wrote: Does anybody have any details on the size of the IBM mainframe that was replaced in this migration? http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/3825/49/ I was looking for a bit more details on which box(es) they were running. My shop has decided to migrate most of our