Sorry, I disagree.
Mainframe software pricing has been falling, quite precipitously in many
cases, over several years. There are a variety of ways that's been true,
and a variety of reasons, but it's fact. And the market trends show no
sign of abating (personal view), so I expect further
Itschak
Quite a while ago now (2001), I needed to examine what the BPXPRMxx member
was about in order to describe how to run two instances of Communications
Server IP in one MVS. What follows is my description of the FILESYSTYPE,
NETWORK and SUBFILESYSTYPE statements I needed to use. There may be
I was curious about your TYPE parameter values so, before posing, I
thought
I'd check on these. I recalled that the relevant manual for the
BPXPRMxx
member was z/OS UNIX System Services Planning - I'm using V1R8.0 - so
I
searched for IBMINET and IBMUDS. I got no hits. When I located a
section
Explanation: The error occurred when the system was trying to do one of
the following:
Satisfy a request made through the STORAGE macro
Process an RU or VRU form of the GETMAIN macro
Process an RU form of the FREEMAIN macro
A reason code in the SDWACRC field of the system diagnostic work area
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:42:40 +0100, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK wrote:
And what about always posting about how cheap the hardware is getting?
If the hardware (processor) were free it would make little difference.
Snip!
I have to say I find such posts insulting. Does
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I am throwing this out as a suggestion. IIRC the output is an
AFP Jes spool item and won't print unless you have a AFP printer.
We do.
-jc-
Dennis Leong wrote:
We are getting ready to install z/os 1.7. Would 3 3390-mod9 be
sufficent
without wasting too much space (75% utilization or more is good)? One
of
the mod-9 would be sms managed for the USS HFS and I think that this may
be
overkill - perhaps a mod-3 would suffice? Thank
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if you look in the migration manual, it should tell you about
On 5 Oct 2006 22:31:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
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snip
All that said, small
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:40:05 +0900, Timothy Sipples
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Sorry, I disagree.
You disagree with what? You didn't quote anything.
Mainframe software pricing has been falling, quite precipitously in many
cases, over several years.
That's a powerful assertion. Back it up
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 07:44 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Unfortuantely, the IBM supplied ...
Mmmm - I ran over a few potholes using the ServerPac for 1.7. Nothing
insurmountable, but hiccups none-the-less.
I was hoping to get to Interaction in a couple of weeks and allow Marna
to buy me dinner
Tom,
Not even close to a million dollars a month. Of course, your mileage and
product mix may vary, but it is less than half of that. Across the last
two machine-type upgrades (z900s to z990s to z9s), a doubling of
installed MSUs, and version upgrades to all major software, etc., there
has been
In a message dated 10/9/2006 7:48:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think the problem is that the IBM mainframe division has never
really liked dealing with small, maybe because a lot of the support
costs are the same regardless of size of shop. I suspect they
Perlis's three-pronged formulation:
A programming language provides mechanisms for
o identifying a data type or data types,
o specifying operations on them, and
o speciifying a path or paths of control among these operations,
has not been improved upon in, now, forty odd years; and it seems
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:05:33 -0400, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tom,
Not even close to a million dollars a month. Of course, your mileage and
product mix may vary, but it is less than half of that. Across the last
two machine-type upgrades (z900s to z990s to z9s), a doubling of
Tim, let me give this a shot.
1. 1. Explain why smaller z/OS developers are important. That ought to be
fairly easy.
Fairly easy for me to explain to a friendly audience. Very difficult to
explain to an endless chain of executives who don't see how small software
developers affect their bonus
Tom,
Growth on other platforms? Suffice it to say, the mainframe is the model
citizen on this discussion. IBM's print ads have made fun of servers
taking over the datacenter and they suggest their blade centers. In my
case, THE BLADE racks have taken over. The power company must love us!
no grin
On 5 Oct 2006 20:28:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
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on 10/05/2006
at 07:58 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
4K physical and logical. Like VSAM LINEAR. Or a PAGESPACE.
Do you know for a fact that those use a 4 KiB block size?
rantI sure wish that
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 06:24 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Tim, let me give this a shot.
Touché Charles - good post.
Shane ...
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 13:17:52 +
Perlis's three-pronged formulation:
A programming language provides mechanisms for
How do I shoehorn JCL into this?
o identifying a data type or data types,
The data types I see are:
- Data sets
-
Daniel
Did you see my analysis of the IEA705I messages?
IEA705I ERROR DURING GETMAIN SYS CODE = 878-10 QLUSER1S DDDE
IEA705I 00F90280 007C0C48 007C0C48 1200 00D29240
From what I find in the description of the message, 00D29240 appears to be
the amount of storage requested - which looks
Chris,
No, I'm sorry, I didn't pick up on that.
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Progress (?!) is being made: VPS now appears to select one of the
waiting PDFs when the designated target printer is STARTed, but the
output fails immediately with this message:
*VPS382E EVLHP90F TCPIP ERROR=BROKEN PIPE TYPE=SEND DATA FUNCTION=17
ANS= 0020
Unfortunately, neither the
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From our experience there is no
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My questuin: How can i move
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Hallo to all,
I am stumped with solving this space abend problem :
IEC030I B37-04,IFG0554A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,SYS5,BD53,SBH124,HSM.MCDS
CKUP.X0006033
This is a backup of the MCDS created by a task
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Progress (?!) is being made: VPS now appears to select one of the
waiting PDFs when the designated
--snip---
Amen. The manuals are already large (blame me, I am the author of most
of it, and I tend to be wordy). Even if you read them in softcopy, it
is daunting to read thru all the text and options, and most customers
don't. We
In a message dated 10/9/2006 10:14:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perhaps your PDF is mal-formed. I don't know if the printer you're
talking to has any kind of log that you can look at or not. Or if it can
log to a syslog server or not.
Yeah, that was my
Insufficient space is allocated for the backup copies.
HSM dumps to pre-allocated datasets.
Delete and redefine all backup copies with the current size
as the primary allocation. Them force a backup with F DFHSM,BACKVOL CDS
You might also check the blocksize of the backups for 1/2 track
Chase, John wrote:
Progress (?!) is being made: VPS now appears to select one of the
waiting PDFs when the designated target printer is STARTed, but the
output fails immediately with this message:
*VPS382E EVLHP90F TCPIP ERROR=BROKEN PIPE TYPE=SEND DATA FUNCTION=17
ANS= 0020
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In a message dated 10/9/2006 10:14:40 A.M. Central Standard
Time, John.Mckown writes:
Perhaps your PDF is mal-formed. I don't know if the printer
you're talking to has any kind of log that you can
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:24 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
I'll say it for all to hear: I'm a FIRM BELIEVER in BookManager. The LIBRARY
READER leaves me cold, since I'm not a great fan of JAVA.
Problem is that bookmangler isn't cross-platform, or wasn't last I
checked. Those of us with Linux on
Hello everyone,
I have a question regarding JES2 and spool packs. This morning when I
was reviewing spool space because it was filling up over the weekend. I
received the following back on the console when doing a $D SPOOL
command. I am currently running OS/390 R2.10
$D SPOOL
$HASP893
David Andrews wrote:
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:24 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
I'll say it for all to hear: I'm a FIRM BELIEVER in BookManager. The LIBRARY
READER leaves me cold, since I'm not a great fan of JAVA.
Problem is that bookmangler isn't cross-platform, or wasn't last I
I thought I would try to answer Timothy Sipple's question in a different
way.
How is the mainframe like the opera? Answer, in both cases, the average
customer age and the average aficionado age gets about eleven months greater
every year. This does not bode well for future business. One
In a message dated 10/9/2006 10:42:00 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Thanks to all who responded on this thread. Next time I'll probably
get a lot further in diagnosing things before I have to return here for
help.
It's tough debugging without complete
Cole Software is please to finally announce the available of release
z1.8 of its z/XDC product.
Many enhancements have been made to the product, but perhaps the most
significant is the ability to use z/XDC to debug SRB routines and FRR
protected task mode code.
For more information, check
vendor code needed to be a modified OK now
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I don't find this to be a particularly useful definition of a programming
language.
For example, under this formulation, a table of hexadecimal operation codes
executable on some S/3x0-compatible physical processor meets the definition
of a programming language.
I suggest that a decent
Well yes Shane
I had a rant , and i guess i'll have more rants in the future ( i am not the
patient type when money is the subject :-)) )
I happen to be now in charge of the system department (all platforms) so i
have a HW ands SW budget for all platforms .
Although i am a techie and an MVS
I guess a couple of questions would be
What is the primary and secondary allocation?
From the listing it looks like the data set went to 16 extents and died.
Perhaps a change on the primary or secondary space allocation would be needed?
Lizette
The definition works for me (and I think this is an interesting exercise).
Paraphrasing, a programming language has
- Variables
- Data manipulation (MOVE, MVCL, PARSE, whatever)
- Flow control (CALL, PERFORM, DO, etc.)
I don't think a table of op codes would meet that definition. Is something
John P. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have not yet taken the time to look at the question in detail, but
Perlis's formulation seems to me to be totally inadequate.
and I am reminded of a Sicilian proverb, Fucilato, un re dev'essere
ucciso.
John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721-1817
USA
Charles cracked me up with:
How is the mainframe like the opera? Let's say you're a young
guy who thinks he might enjoy the New York Metropolitan Opera. Guess
what? The cost to find out is about $300 (two
tickets plus a few incidentals).
Neat analogy and I pretty much agree with your
It is becoming one big voracious vicious cycle and I know my boss tears
his hair out every month reconciling numbers.
New mainframe, lower cost of power, maintenance.
Higher horsepower, more costs for software.
CIO hates the budget, wants to whack it and send it all to the tinker
toy
I think that the definition needs to include something in respect to human
readable.
Is JCL a programming language? I will argue that it is not. Although JCL
has in recent times been provided with some primitive flow control and
variable manipulation capabilities, I believe that these are
As a follow-up to the recent Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust thread
-- and apropos to a couple of other ongoing threads -- I received kind
permission from Mr. Sangho Yoon to post on this listserv the following email he
sent to me the other day. There is a lot to be ruminated upon in
I like, to paraphrase from way back in time: A sequence of vague
instructions and obscure algorithms employed to manipulate data from
various sources into reports of dubious usage to be foisted upon disparate
organizations that were crazy enough to ask for them in the first place.
Daniel
That is the best definition yet.
John P Baker
Software Engineer
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I
A sequence of vague instructions and obscure algorithms...
Debugging: The art of removing computer errors.
Programming: The art of inserting computer errors.
When in doubt.
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Is the volume fragmented or can you get the primary allocation in one
extent? If so, then defrag the volume and try again. If not, then
increase your allocation sizes.
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On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 12:01 -0400, Bruce Black wrote:
You are in luck, there is a Softcopy Reader for Redhat Linux.
You make me look at it again, after a long while. The website says it's
for RedHat Linux 9.0 or later, with Sun Java Runtime Environment
Version 1.4.1_01 or later -- but it seems
I agree with Bill's approach but would add the creation of CDS4 before
switching to CDS3 and using it as your alternate couple dataset while you
are deleting and reformatting CDS1 and CDS2. That way you lessen the
chance that you are called away from your desk while your system is running
From: Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seriously though, I agree. The platform is in trouble and lowering the
entry price is only the first of many things that would have to be done
pronto if that were ever going to change.
And yet, removing FLEX-ES would be moving in exactly the opposite
The COMMAND=(FORMAT) part of the display indicates that someone
previously issued a $S SPL command with the format operand and that the
formatting has not completed.The fact that the volume is also marked
active seems to indicate that the command was issued probably by mistake
while the volume
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From: Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seriously though, I
Allan,
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Just to inquire about the suggestion to
force a backup - F DFHSM,BACKVOL CDS. I assume that this goes to disk. Am I
right? Can I force the backup to tape? If so how would I do that? Also,
since I am unable to get this fixed, I have
In a message dated 10/9/2006 2:04:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
future, or perhaps it's something else. But whatever it is, killing off the
only low cost way for small developers to get on the platform seems to point
to one of the two options listed above, and
A third possibility is that IBM does not care a whole lot about small
developers, because they do not see any relationship between ***small***
developers and the success of the platform.
The last I was seriously plugged into the PID (now PWD) program, IBM seemed
to care a whole lot about getting
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In a message dated 10/9/2006 2:04:34 P.M. Central
From: John P Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think that the definition needs to include something in respect to human
readable.
Is JCL a programming language? Is SQL a programming language? Are HTML and
XML programming languages?
What about ISPF panel 'logic'; is that a programming language? It's
In a message dated 10/9/2006 2:32:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
zSeries instructions are really millicoded from simplier instructions
(zSeries + special purpose). I wonder how difficult it would be for
IBM to implement a totally millicoded zSeries instruction set
On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:24 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Paraphrasing, a programming language has [...] Variables
In fp style you don't have variables!
_Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs_ (one of the great
undergraduate textbooks of our age) doesn't get around to introducing
I wonder how difficult it would be for
IBM to implement a totally millicoded zSeries instruction set using a
Power chip?
It depends. If you just wanted it to run, then it would be easy. Heck
you can do it on a PC and get 80-odd MIPS so how hard can it be? OTOH
if you wanted it to run at a
Interesting! Sounds just like the strategy several ex-IBMers used to
drive Legent into the ground in the middle 90's.
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/09/2006
03:29:37 PM:
A third possibility is that IBM does not care a whole lot about small
developers, because
On 9 Oct 2006 10:24:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Mills) wrote:
Paraphrasing, a programming language has
- Variables
- Data manipulation (MOVE, MVCL, PARSE, whatever)
- Flow control (CALL, PERFORM, DO, etc.)
I don't think a
From: Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A third possibility is that IBM does not care a whole lot about small
developers, because they do not see any relationship between ***small***
developers and the success of the platform.
Again, I have to believe IBM is smarter than that. A small developer
Craddock, Chris wrote:
I wonder how difficult it would be for
IBM to implement a totally millicoded zSeries instruction set using a
Power chip?
It depends. If you just wanted it to run, then it would be easy. Heck
you can do it on a PC and get 80-odd MIPS so how hard can it be? OTOH
if
I, personally, believe the answer is number 2. IBM likely wants to kill
the zSeries.
Unlikely, I think. I can testify that IBM puts in a lot of effort
taking care of their largest customers, who are on z/OS with large DASD
farms. That is why they invented the 3390-27, 3390-54, and alternate
Willie,
See the SETSYS CDSVERSIONBACKUP parameter/subparameters.
HSM dumps to the oldest (if there are more than 1) versions of the
backup dataset. It then renames to the
current version and remembers the current version. AFAI recall, none
of these files are in use except during
BACKVOL CDS
In a message dated 10/9/2006 3:55:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Google ECLipz
This one is pretty good.
_http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT121905001634_
(http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?ArticleID=RWT121905001634)
I know this isn't the COBOL list. I'm not a COBOL programmer, so it all
works out. I'm writing a quick COBOL test program. I've got a PIC X(64)
field but the actual length of the data in the field is in a separate S9(4)
field. I want to display the real data and not whatever garbage might be
77 D PIC X(64)
.
.
.
77 L PIC S9(4) BINARY.
.
.
.
MOVE D (1:L) TO wherever
.
.
.
DISPLAY D (1:L)
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/09/2006
05:24:27 PM:
I know this isn't the COBOL list. I'm not a COBOL programmer, so it all
works out.
Awesome! Thanks,
Charles
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:31 PM
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77 D PIC X(64)
.
.
.
77 L PIC
In
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on 10/07/2006
at 09:25 AM, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Just as you cannot get rid of something in IPL-time LPA, you cannot
DELETE an IDENTIFYed entry that was added by an authorized program
within an LPA module (as that becomes part of LPA.
Yes, but what about
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/08/2006
at 07:50 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What's a programming language?
A language that can be used to define programs.
Must it have variables, assignment statements, loops, GOTOs, ...?
Not if it's a functional language. But it must have some
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/09/2006
at 07:57 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
How do I shoehorn JCL into this?
You don't, but JCL is not a *programming* language.
I'm confident also that a Turing machine
could be emulated in COBOL.
Trivially, subject to storage constraints.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/09/2006
at 01:04 PM, John P Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
For example, under this formulation, a table of hexadecimal operation
codes executable on some S/3x0-compatible physical processor meets
the definition of a programming language.
No, you'd need a far larger
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/09/2006
at 07:42 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What about ISPF panel 'logic'; is that a programming language?
No, nor am I convinced that it should be extended enough to become a
language. In particular, I don't currently see the value of iteration
in an
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
at 07:42 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What about ISPF panel 'logic'; is that a programming language?
No, nor am I convinced that it should be extended enough to become a
language. In particular, I don't currently see the value of
On Oct 9, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Jon Brock wrote:
As a follow-up to the recent Another BIG Mainframe Bites the
Dust thread -- and apropos to a couple of other ongoing threads --
I received kind permission from Mr. Sangho Yoon to post on this
listserv the following email he sent to me the
Yes, I would think a programming language should do the following:
1. accept various forms of input and from various types of devices
2. move data, compare data and have logical comparisons
3. output data in various forms to various types of devices.
Scott Ford
z/OS consultant
On Tuesday, 10/10/2006 at 02:50 GMT, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was a discussion on the ISPF listserv just last week about how to
remove leading spaces. For example, if the following were entered on a
command line:
=== SORT ADDRESSD
...
Very
In a recent note, Dave Salt said:
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:50:30 +
There was a discussion on the ISPF listserv just last week about how to
remove leading spaces. For example, if the following were entered on a
command line:
=== SORT ADDRESSD
All:
I know inf Rexx that is relatively easy to do. I have written Rexx since it
was first out.
This is not a big problem, especially coupled with ISPF...a simple called
function with
a parameter...
Scott Ford
z/OS consultant
Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know the capabilities of ISPF computation. Is it possible to
remove 64 leading spaces, then 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1; thus removing
up to 95 spaces in 7 truncate/tests rather than dozens and dozens?
I've done this with other editors.
I've done similar
On Tuesday, 10/10/2006 at 04:08 GMT, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The original issue was whether panel logic by itself could be considered
a
programming language, given that it lacks certain basics (such as
iterative
logic). IMO the answer is yes, but I'm sure others would not agree. To
From: Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eh? Wouldn't it simply be better to give panels a way to reference the
words in the input fields? Or provide a STRIP function?
As with any programming language, there are many ways panel logic could be
improved. A strip function would be great, as would a
Dave/Alan:
Rexx has a nice builtin function called 'strip' u can strip leading ,
trailing or
both blanks.
Scott Ford
Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Alan Altmark
Eh? Wouldn't it simply be better to give panels a way to reference the
words in the input fields? Or
From: Scott Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rexx has a nice builtin function called 'strip' u can strip leading ,
trailing or
both blanks.
Extracted from the email below:
The person who originally posted the question about parsing 'SORT ADDRESS
D' was under the constraint that he could only
At 13:42 -0400 on 10/09/2006, John P Baker wrote about Re: What's a
programming language:
Are HTML and XML programming languages? Again, I will argue that they are
not.
OTOH. Both JavaScript (Client Side Scripting) and PHP (Server Side
Scripting) embedded into (X)HTML are Programming
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