Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kees, About your answer above: why do you check a single PGDS utilization? I think it hardly hirts when one PGDS is over some limit if the total configuration is within limit? ... Besides that, the question is what we can do about it, as Barbara already mentioned. thanks for basically asking the

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Mike Feeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? For example, if my LPAR only

BTS-problem w COOL:gen et al.

2007-09-12 Thread Thomas Berg
I have a problem with BTS (Batch Terminal Simulator) and the product COOL:gen. (I have asked at the IMS-L list and got answers but no solution.) Prolog: I'm running BTS in batch mode (DLI) under TSO. (Using IBM:s Debug Tool I have two VTAM-windows open through PCOM.) I'm essentially trying to

Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-12 Thread R.S.
[...] snip Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up. If anyone can change it, how can you trust any of it? /snip How can you trust other encyclopedias ? Are there more reliable ? Possibly yes, epecially in some hot areas, but who cares about others reliability - who measured

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The ancient advantage of a 1 cyl PLPA and a large COMMON, the Seldom Ending Channelprogram, has been retired a couple of z/OS releases ago Not to dispute; where is that documented? The last time I discussed this with IBM it was still recommended. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
BTW: false content in wikipedia is very quickly removed. Every insert or update is checked by some guys. Boy, are you optimistic! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread R.S.
Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? I would ask WHY ? Why do you want PLPA to overflow into COMMON page ? -- Radoslaw

Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Kees, About your answer above: why do you check a single PGDS utilization? I think it hardly hirts when one PGDS is over some limit if the total configuration is within limit? ... Besides that, the question is what we

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:1482040871-1189580775-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-179 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... The ancient advantage of a 1 cyl PLPA and a large COMMON, the Seldom Ending Channelprogram, has been retired a couple of z/OS releases ago Not to dispute;

Performance degradation

2007-09-12 Thread Nofri
Is it possible defrag process (using ADRDSSU) in a volume at the same time with delete define file in the volume ? Yesterday I have a problem in production machine, the problem was performance degradation, I have check CPU Utilization low and there were many job was running including defrag

Re: Performance degradation

2007-09-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
Nofri, Apa kabar? Did you check for enqueue contention on the VTOC? Your Delete/Define was probably stuck behind that. Check the RMF Enqueue report. It's unlikely that DEFRAG by itself will generate enough IO to degrade a single volume's performance unless the volume is already very busy before

Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Wilkie
What he said PLUS there are several contributors either between jobs or retired who don't have a company ID. Bill From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What he said PLUS there are several contributors either between jobs I resemble that remark! Just because you don't use a corporate account, doesn't mean you should not contribute. There is only ONE List-Serve that I know of which requires you to use a corporate e-mail to contribute. And, that

Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-12 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 9/12/2007 6:22:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is only ONE List-Serve that I know of which requires you to use a corporate e-mail to contribute. And, that is ISV-Costs (run by John Anderson of IBM Canada). So, I never joined because my

HTTP Server Abend

2007-09-12 Thread Matt Dazzo
In the dark of night our HTTP server starting having problems on our zOS1.7 sand box. Well it was really probably during the day and we have not noticed it. Anyway, it has been working fine for a long time. The last known changes were to separate Telnet services outside TCPIP and change the

Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-12 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:55 AM, R.S. wrote: [...] snip Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up. If anyone can change it, how can you trust any of it? /snip How can you trust other encyclopedias ? Are there more reliable ? Possibly yes, epecially in some hot areas, but who

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:10 AM, R.S. wrote: Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? I would ask WHY ? Why do you want PLPA to

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Shannon
I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? I would ask WHY ? Why do you want PLPA to overflow into COMMON page ? It was recommended years ago by a guru

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Ed Gould wrote: Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? I would ask WHY ? Why do you want PLPA to overflow into COMMON page ?

Re: Wikiscanner

2007-09-12 Thread R.S.
Ed Gould wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:55 AM, R.S. wrote: [...] snip Thats why I never go to Wikipedia to look something up. If anyone can change it, how can you trust any of it? /snip How can you trust other encyclopedias ? Are there more reliable ? Possibly yes, epecially in some hot

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread R.S.
Ed Gould wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:10 AM, R.S. wrote: Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? I would ask WHY ? Why do you

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:10 AM, R.S. wrote: Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Jacobs
R.S. wrote: Ed Gould wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:10 AM, R.S. wrote: Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? I would ask WHY ?

Re: HTTP Server Abend

2007-09-12 Thread Paolo Cacciari
Matt, are you sharing your HFS in r/w with other systems (probably outside the plex...)??? Or, perhaps, are you sharing HFS (in r/w) between different OS levels??? _ Paolo Cacciari Business Continuity and Resiliency

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Wayne Driscoll
My theory on this is much like Bob Shannon's. Keep it easier, if you are worried about the performance impact of page-ins from PLPA, you are so real storage constrained that your system will be in bad shape anyway. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are

Re: BTS-problem w COOL:gen et al.

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Hammond
Thomas, When you say the BTS run ends, were there any BTS messages? I would have expected the ENTER to generate some sort of message. What should be generated by the MFS when you hit enter? (specifically, the first part of the message showing the transaction code.) Mark Hammond Applications

Global mirror for z/OS

2007-09-12 Thread Sharon Lopez
We are building a disaster recovery datacenter about 4 hrs. from our primary site. Does anyone have any information on XRC Global mirroring for z/OS and are there any good redbooks/manuals? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
We do this so that we don't have to worry about sizing the PLPA page dataset. We just define a large common page dataset and let PLPAQ overflow into it. There is no performance degradation. I've been doing since at least XA, if not before. And, that was before expanded storage, so paging rates

Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:23:49 -0400, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't justify a mod-27 since about 60% of it would be empty - multiplied by all our sysres sets: 2 for maintenance (one for each company), 6 for one company environment, 3 or 4 sets for 3 other environments and a few more

Re: Global mirror for z/OS

2007-09-12 Thread Paolo Cacciari
Sharon, you can start with this manual: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/antgr131.pdf This could be an useful web page: http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=580uid=ssg1S7000860 For any questions, try to contact me offlist. Hope this hepls. Regards.

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I believe that recommendation is no longer valid (not sure as of which z/OS release), but it had to do with the way I/O was handled to load LPA. If you're not paging, it doesn't matter. Allowing it to overflow for some reason was more efficient. The efficiency had to do with (then) expensive

Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Mason
Bill there are several contributors ... between jobs ... In some professions it's called resting. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Bill Wilkie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:52 PM Subject:

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread John Eells
Mike Feeley wrote: I'm thinking of changing PLPA to the minimum size of 1 cylinder and letting it overflow into the COMMON page dataset. Is there any issues with allocating a huge COMMON page dataset? For example, if my LPAR only requires a combined PLPA and COMMON size of 800 cylinders, can

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:07:19 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ancient advantage of a 1 cyl PLPA and a large COMMON, the Seldom Ending Channelprogram, has been retired a couple of z/OS releases ago Not to dispute; where is that documented? The last time I discussed this with IBM it

SV: BTS-problem w COOL:gen et al.

2007-09-12 Thread Thomas Berg
Mark, Firstly: when BTS run ends there is only the BTS0005I END OF BTS RUN. message. Secondly: I have got it working by having an end-of-message indicator when issuing the transcode, XXX300 $ ! (Also - before trying that - I got it to a working state by doing a /FORMAT modname after the

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size snip There is no point in making the COMMON data set any

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].. .. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PLPA and

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:56:20 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no point in making the COMMON data set any larger than 2GB. COMMON cannot possibly grow to 2GB, since that would be _all_ the space below the bar. I'd allocate a 1-cylinder PLPA followed by a

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Wayne Driscoll
John, CSA and ECSA are paged to the COMMON page dataset, PLPA is paged to PLPA and (if overflow) to COMMMON. Since the combined size of PLPA+COMMON has to be less than 2GB, (at least until RMODE 64 programs are available, which may never happen), a 2GB COMMON page dataset will be more than large

Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations SNIP Oddly enough I'd looked already. I wrote the SMS

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:37:36 -0400, John Eells wrote: There is no point in making the COMMON data set any larger than 2GB. Until (and unless) we start having common above the bar. Even then 2GB will likely last a while. -- Tom Marchant

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
APAR Identifier .. OA14248 Thanks, Mark. That APAR only mentions suspend/resume. Nothing regarding the one cylinder PLPA. (Which was in use long before suspend/resume, and was used to save a pack -- not for performance). - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size SNIP We do this so that we don't have to worry about sizing the PLPA

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm confused by this. Isn't ECSA and the like paged to COMMON? Or is it paged to normal paging datasets? But, extended COMMON and below the line COMMON are still below the 2GB bar. So, they could never add up to more than 2GB. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Kees wrote: Now, like Mike's proposal, it can help you make life a little easier. PLPA can spill over to COMMON, but not vica versa. So if you want to manage space for both easily, you can do this by creating a small PLPA and a large COMMON, which has free space for both. With both a large

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size I'm confused by this. Isn't ECSA and the like paged to

Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: [snip] thanks for basically asking the same questions I have asked in the ETR I had opened. I was given to understand (not as clearly, of course) that I have no idea what I am talking about. And why do I even question IBMs best practises? As this has happened for *every*

Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations

2007-09-12 Thread John Eells
Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ServerPac Installs and dataset allocations SNIP Oddly enough I'd looked already.

Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-12 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Sincere apologies... I was probably wrong to create an absolute rule... Thanks for pointing out the other side of the coin to me... it was definitely in the shade, otherwise I would have noticed it, surely... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:1253452742-1189606952-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-192 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... APAR Identifier .. OA14248 Thanks, Mark. That APAR only mentions suspend/resume. Nothing regarding the one cylinder PLPA. (Which was in use

Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-12 Thread Brian Peterson
Barbara Based upon past posts, I've gotten (and still have) huge respect for your knowlege and expertise on this platform. My only guess is that your (negative) experience with Health Checker support may have something to do with how IBM support works outside of the US. In my experience, IBM

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:37:36 -0400, John Eells wrote: There is no point in making the COMMON data set any larger than 2GB. Until (and unless) we start having common above the bar. Even then 2GB will likely last a while. Paging for common storage above 2G

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ted, did you not get my reply with the APAR number? No. I missed it. The 1 cylinder PLPA is a result of suspend/resume and the high cost of diskspace these days. I was doing it before suspend/resume came out (MVS/SP1.3.0?) The first performance course I ever took had it as a 'trick of the

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Gene Hudders
And to reduce having to seek over empty cylinders because you would allocate more space to the PLPA for growth. Regards, Gene --Original Message-- From: Ted MacNEIL Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sent: Sep 12, 2007

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:29:15 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 1 cylinder PLPA is a result of suspend/resume and the high cost of diskspace these days. With suspend/resume you should have only 1 pagedataset on a volume and by shifing all data to the Common and thus

Re: The future of IBM Mainframes [just thinking]

2007-09-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
Not to mention us unwashed unemployed Ted MacNEIL wrote: What he said! Please remember that a lot of us work for companies who forbid our use of company email addresses to post on public forums. - Too busy driving to stop for

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- It was recommended years ago by a guru and no one dares to question the guru. unsnip-- HORSEFEATHERS!! No guru is beyond challenging, expecially when experience indicates different from what the so-called

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Gary Green
Thanks for that Ted. I thought it was me. ? On Wed Sep 12 14:23 , Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: APAR Identifier .. OA14248 Thanks, Mark. That APAR only mentions suspend/resume. Nothing regarding the one cylinder PLPA. (Which was in use long before suspend/resume, and was used to

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: ... I think the decision to remove suspend/resume was based on issues that kept cropping up with pav and paging. Must have been a fairly serious issue of some sort. Why else would they change the behavior via APAR and not on a release boundary? -- Edward E Jaffe

Re: Global mirror for z/OS

2007-09-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip We are building a disaster recovery datacenter about 4 hrs. from our primary site. Does anyone have any information on XRC Global mirroring for z/OS and are there any good redbooks/manuals?

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Hal Merritt
Physically not possible, but virtually possible? :-) The CP display shows CP's 0, 2, and 4 online. The 'change LPAR controls' shows 4 'non dedicated CPs'. The activation profile shows 3 non shared. (Most likely it was 4 before the change.) Three of the four LPAR D M=CPU displays seem to be

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Brian Peterson
I think that the straw which finally prompted the elimination of suspend/resume channel programs for paging was a problem exposed by products which DDR swap DASD volumes dynamically. I suspect the thinking went something like this: Since the problem exposed by DDR swap of page volumes was

Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-12 Thread Roland Schiradin
Barbara SHOWMVS and SHOWzOS report the MAXCAD and current usage since several years. Require APF. Dataspace/Hiperspace . . . Total MAXCAD=25 Total used CADS=12 Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Interesting, yes. I would have expected CPs 0,1 and 2 online. Did you pose the question to IBM HW support? I'd be interested to hear the answer if/when you get one. Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt

FICON tape drive?

2007-09-12 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Anybody ever seen a stand alone FICON attached 3490 capable tape drive? Yes, I know it sounds crazy. I'm fairly certain they don't exist, but I need to know. Thanks. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-665-4231(v) 651-610-7670(p)

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Ted, The statement snip Unlike VM, PRSM/LPAR does not virtualise CP's. /snip begs the question: If I have a CEC with 4 GP CPUs and 2 LPARS, LPAR1 has 4 non-dedicated initial CPs and LPAR2 has 2 non-dedicated initial CPs, is not PRSM/LPAR virtualizing CPs, since there 6 logical CPs,

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bielskie, Stephen Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement. Ted, The statement snip Unlike VM,

Re: FICON tape drive?

2007-09-12 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
You might be better off looking for an ESCON attached 3490 and adding a Ficon to ESCON converter. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: FICON tape drive?

2007-09-12 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
We recently acquired a refurbished Sun/STK 9490 Timberline (3490 clone). The purchase/shipping documents indicate the ESCON interface is a separate component. Looking at the guts confirms the interface is physically separate from the drive. All of which implies there are other interfaces that

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bielskie, Stephen wrote: If I have a CEC with 4 GP CPUs and 2 LPARS, LPAR1 has 4 non-dedicated initial CPs and LPAR2 has 2 non-dedicated initial CPs, is not PRSM/LPAR virtualizing CPs, since there 6 logical CPs, but only 4 physical CPs? Curiosity of course, since I don't use VM. The

Re: FICON tape drive?

2007-09-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FICON tape drive? Anybody ever seen a stand alone FICON attached 3490 capable tape drive? Yes, I know

Re: CA to IBM TCP Conversion

2007-09-12 Thread Johnston, Robert E
Chris, Thanks for the information and document. I already had some of your recommendations in place and I am still reviewing everything. There is one thing that I would like to ask you about. You quoted the IP Guide and said: quote Common INET physical file system (CINET PFS) If you wish

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If I have a CEC with 4 GP CPUs and 2 LPARS, LPAR1 has 4 non-dedicated initial CPs and LPAR2 has 2 non-dedicated initial CPs, is not PRSM/LPAR virtualizing CPs, since there 6 logical CPs, but only 4 physical CPs? Curiosity of course, since I don't use VM. Terminology error on my part. What I

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:48:31 -0500, McKown, John wrote: From what I understand, PRSM calls these things logical CPs and assigns each LPAR a number of logical CPs. It then dispatches the logical CP on a physical CP. I don't know when PRSM assigns a logical CP to a physical CP. It may be at LPAR

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I see no reason why PR/SM can't support more logical processors for a partition than there are physical processors It was a design decision, from the get go. MDF was designed the same way. I was a beta-tester of MDF in the mid-1980's, and participated in many NDA meetings for that. Also,

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
From the PR/SM manual: LPs can be defined to have as many CPs as are present on the underlying MCM. Copyright IBM So Hal indeed has an anomaly (unless z/OS.e is more VM like than I thought.) He shows 3 CPs enabled from the service element. I will be interested to see if it will be fixed

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:05:19 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I see no reason why PR/SM can't support more logical processors for a partition than there are physical processors It was a design decision, from the get go. MDF was designed the same way. I was a beta-tester of MDF in the mid-1980's, and

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
LPs can be defined to have as many CPs as are present on the underlying MCM. Even that is not precise. Especially these days, when each board is fully populated. You need to activate the PU's through micro-code. And, only those activated can be used, and set the limit per LPAR. - Too busy

Re: HTTP Server Abend

2007-09-12 Thread Roland Schiradin
Matt, I would track open APAR OA22110 to get a better diagnostic IGW020I msg even I believe the SYSLOG should provide more info for this kind of LOAD failure. Regards Roland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: FICON tape drive?

2007-09-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FICON tape drive? SNIP Well, I got the wrong info. Something bothered me about what I was told

Re: FICON tape drive?

2007-09-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/12/2007 4:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, if all ya all will excuse me, I have to go to the laundry room to deposit the egg soaked clothing... I dunno, I google'd {FICON attached 3490} and came with several hits to include Luminex

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Stop dispatching on of the logical processors? And if so, what happens to the task that was running on it at the time? I always thought you had to configure the processor offline before you could remove it from the profile. In all the discussion, I missed whether that was done. - Too busy

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Hal Merritt
No manual configuration or profile changes were made. Only the hardware microcode. I kind of hesitate to issue reconfiguration commands right now. This is our most loved LPAR. I have a PMR open with IBM. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
No manual configuration or profile changes were made. Only the hardware microcode. Then, I really don't understand what kind of state you're in. I kind of hesitate to issue reconfiguration commands right now. This is our most loved LPAR. When we were GDPS testing, a few years ago, IBM

Call for Sessions for SHARE in Orlando

2007-09-12 Thread Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz
Fellow IBM-Main Members- Now that SHARE in San Diego is a fond memory, it is time to start planning for the upcoming winter SHARE conference. It will be held at the Coronado Springs Resort in Orlando, FL, on February 24th through 29th, 2007. The Enterprise Wide Capacity and Performance

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:46:30 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: No manual configuration or profile changes were made. Only the hardware microcode. Then, I really don't understand what kind of state you're in. I kind of hesitate to issue reconfiguration commands right now. This is our most loved LPAR.

Re: Call for Sessions for SHARE in Orlando

2007-09-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:11:53 -0700, Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz wrote: February 24th through 29th, 2007. The Enterprise Wide Capacity and Oops! Missed it. Sorry. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Concurrent Upgrade Puzzlement.

2007-09-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If the concurrent upgrade had required that the LPAR with four logical processors had required that one processor be CONFIGed offline first, that would hardly have been non-disruptive, would it? CONFIG a processor offline is non-disruptive, except for a possible performance impact. But, I'm

Re: PLPA and COMMON PAGESPACE Size

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 09/12/2007 12:46:24 PM: Mark Zelden wrote: ... I think the decision to remove suspend/resume was based on issues that kept cropping up with pav and paging. Must have been a fairly serious issue of some sort. Why else would

Re: Running with SQA/ESQA 100% CHECK

2007-09-12 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 08:42 +0200, Barbara Nitz wrote: And we installed the downloadable version before we migrated to 1.6, so we've been putting up with HC for a long time. This may have been my mistake as well. Left a very bitter taste. The shipped product is significantly better, but still