Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-19 Thread Stephen Y Odo
John Cassidy wrote: Call it a sea-change or whatever, I cannot see things improving, despite IBM's University initiative etc. - too late. SUN have been there (The uni's) years before IBM. IBM can't possibly compete in the university environment until they change their ways. We have a site

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/19/2006 4:29:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's-his-name keeps harping about IBM's new programs for education and such, but they still haven't changed the one thing that keeps shooting them in the foot. Clueless! Was wondering if

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-19 Thread Stephen Y Odo
Ed Finnell wrote: Was wondering if we'd hear from you. Any damage from the quake? Thanks for asking ... The big island (Hawai'i) suffered severe damage ... current assessment is about $100M ... but amazingly, no deaths ... just minor injuries. Here on Oahu, damage was minimal. We're

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/19/2006 3:22:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here on Oahu, damage was minimal. We're kinda back to normal already ... Thanks for the update. Try to be on the look out for the .edu's but it's sort of like the Service notice our help desk

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 10/17/2006 at 11:04 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why are there so mainframe types unemployed? I have asked myself the same question. My suspicion: because they are unwilling or unable to relocate to where the jobs are, or they want moving living expenses paid by

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread John Cassidy
**My suspicion: because they are unwilling or unable to relocate to where the jobs are, or they want moving living expenses paid by an unwilling prospective employer** In Europe, there are a lot of multi-lingual Mainframers commuting between Capital cities or their equivalent, still a paucity

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
While I was out of work for 18 months, I used MONSTER, HOTJOBS, and Careerbuilder. I applied to all the positions I thought I qualified for, but employers either never got back to me, had me out on an interview and never got back to me, or said my skill set was too old (my last os at the time was

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:07:57 -0400, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My suspicion: because they are unwilling or unable to relocate to where the jobs are, or they want moving living expenses paid by an unwilling prospective employer. I would ask this of the group. Is there anyone

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler While I was out of work for 18 months, I used MONSTER, HOTJOBS, and Careerbuilder. I applied to all the positions I thought I qualified for, but employers either never got back to me, had me out

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Chase, John
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel A. McLaughlin Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
And they want YOU to pay THEM for the privilege Case in point. Recruiting firm tried to lure me by calling my wife since it was close to her hometown. Company offer: $15k paycut, a check for $5k to move my house from one state to another. Nope Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:07 AM Subject: Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: I apply to almost every real systems programmer job posted on Monster, careerbuilder, and Dice, which on average is about 3 jobs a week. Most places, you never hear from. So far I've had one out of town

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread John Cassidy
Well, it used to be an exclusive profession until something happened... today, we can enjoy the company of the clickers / twitchers and the tamagotchis. I have not seen an advertisement in Europe for a classic z/OS - z/VM - z/Linux - CICS systems person without Websphere / Java / Tamagotchi

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Oct 2006 06:37:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lizette Koehler) wrote: It seemed to me that employers had no idea what they wanted and therefore passed over individuals that did not meet their buzz words. That is the case for virtually any technical job. I once got turned down for a job

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Bruce Black
I suspect that most, if not all, HR staffs are woefully ignorant of the vast variety of titles used to describe mainframe-related positions. Its been a long time since I had to interview (I've been with Innovation 22 years) but I recall a few cases where I interviewed with a HR wonk who just

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was unemployed for six months and I did use Monster, Dice and others. I used HOTJOBS (YAHOO [.ca]). But, what got me the job was saving my resumé as a web page (through HOTJOBS) and putting the URL in my e-mail sig. I never made reference to it, nor did I state in the sig that it was a

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Another codeword one might encounter is overqualified, especially if one is beyond a certain age Except in the case where you are willing to take a large cut and may bail if something better come along, I have not found that to be the case in the mainframe world. As a matter of fact my

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
How can I get your job I had to move to South Carolina to get this gig. They will not even consider work at a distance. I asked my last boss if I could do full time work at home for the same salary I got here and they said no. So where is this wonderous, intellegent organization you work

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How can I get your job Right place! Right time! I had to be down-sized and available at the right time. I had to move to South Carolina to get this gig. The main reason for the tele-commuting (from the office) is because I'm a Canadian working in their Canadian office. And, even with

IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
As we monitor the health of the mainframe marketplace, there's continued good news. The earnings call highlighted mainframes, with strong growth in all geographies. (The strongest was in Europe for the record.) IBM's earnings per share rose to $1.45, beating Wall Street consensus by 10 cents.

Re: IBM 3Q2006 Earnings: Mainframes Strong (Again)

2006-10-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So why are there so mainframe types unemployed? When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the